WWI Digest 2139 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 2) RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by Shane Weier 3) RE: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by Shane Weier 4) RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 5) Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 6) Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 by Albatrosdv@aol.com 7) Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by "Sandy Adam" 8) Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 by "Peter Leonard" 9) Re: Was Kit Prices...... =?iso-8859-1?B?oA==?= Now DH5 by "cameron rile" 10) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Was_Kit_Prices......_=A0_Now_DH5?= by smperry@mindspring.com 11) Re: I'm back did I miss anything??? DFW colours maybe ;) by "Matthew Bittner" 12) Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by "David Calhoun" 13) Lonestar DH5 by "Bob Pearson" 14) Re: What's next???? by Steve Cox 15) Toko news by Al Superczynski 16) Stainless Steel Wire by "Courtney Allen" 17) Re: Toko news by "Matthew Bittner" 18) Re: Stainless Steel Wire by "Matthew Bittner" 19) Resin help by "Matthew Bittner" 20) Re: Stainless Steel Wire by "Bryan Deatherage" 21) Re: Was Resin help - de-warping wings by Albatrosdv@aol.com 22) Re: Resin help by smperry@mindspring.com 23) MoS Type AI question by "Matthew Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:13:55 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <200002120613.WAA18539@smtpout.telus.net> I have a DH-5, resin even.... Of course its in that other correct scale 1/72. In case anyone ever sees an Airmodel DH-5 grab it great little model, no decals but excellent resin, very accurate even has interior detail. Should build up into a very colourful Aircraft (lol) I swapped an Eduard Pfalz for this model a year or so ago, and yes it was a 1/48 Pfalz ;) Ray On 12 Feb 00, at 1:06, Shane Weier wrote: > > > How many eyes light up at the > > mention of a DH5? > > DH-5 ?? Someone said DH-5 ??? > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:17:34 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CE8@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > wheedle and whine at > Christmas and birthday. People in this house are now > convinced that PE makes > great stocking stuffer type gifts. Those $50-$70 kits and > books can also > sometimes be obtained using this simple method. Good God man ! What monstrous cojones you have! Asking my wife to provide a $70 kit for Christmas would require admitting the actual cost of such things and *that* would be more threatening to my modelling career than the sudden bankruptcy of *all* model manufacturing companies. shudder...... Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:24:22 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CE9@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Ray > I have a DH-5, resin even.... Of course its in that other correct > scale 1/72. In case anyone ever sees an Airmodel DH-5 grab it > great little model, no decals but excellent resin, very accurate even > has interior detail. I have a DH-5 too - Libramodels vacform, the oldest one of my models still existing. An excellent little kit if you ever see one BTW. Also a short run somewhere - Meikraft or Merlin ?? - which came to me courtesy of one of the kind listees some years ago. But - no 1/48 one. It's been on my "I must scraychbuild this" list for years but never done for fear that Eduard/BM/Aeroclub would do to me what they did with the Biff anyhow. > Should build up into a very colourful > Aircraft (lol) Subtle m'boy, subtle. > I swapped an Eduard Pfalz for this model a year or so ago, and yes > it was a 1/48 Pfalz ;) A fair swap IMHO ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:27:04 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <200002120626.WAA22781@smtpout.telus.net> I'm with Rio and Shane on this one, in any month I have a limited budget for models even though imho they are a darned cost effective hobby. This makes Toko and Non etch Eduards so neat. (Still saying Toko since I'm hoping Revell Germany rerelease them along with all the models in the OT Revell 1/72 collection. I can wish) Also when it comes to it a few OT books per year have priority over the models, which further drains the model budget. However when Cyg comes out with the Halberstadt I'll be right up at the front of the line..... Ray On 12 Feb 00, at 1:15, Shane Weier wrote: > Rio, > > > >From time to time I feel compelled to whinge about the dwindling > > affordability of my favorite modeling subject because I think it's > > an issue that needs to be addressed. This is in spite of the fact > > that I've got such a pile of Eduards, vintage kits, etc. that I > > won't be able to build all that I have now. And so it goes... > > > > > > A thousand or more pardons, > > Pardons be damned. Unless there's a closet millionaire amongst us I > *bet* we've all felt the tug-o-war between want and need (want models > - need to pay bills) and have from time to time wished that prices > were lower. > > My solution - to think back 10-20 years and remember how expensive the > many WW1 kits then on the market were. OH - that's right, there > *weren't* many! No wonder it's costing me a fortune, because now there > are so many kits it's hard to keep up - which is maybe not quite such > a burden after all. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:03:31 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 Message-ID: <200002120703.XAA03514@smtpout.telus.net> One last post on the DH5 anyone who is thinking of building one of these should go look at the profiles on Cam's AFC pages. I noticed all the DH5 profiles a month or so ago, caused me to go search the DH5 out of the attic. (its in the to build pile behind the Bristol M1 and Avro 504K) Heres the pages http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/PointCook/afc_profiles.htm Ray (sorry but I happen to like the DH5 lot) On 12 Feb 00, at 1:28, Shane Weier wrote: > Ray > > > > I have a DH-5, resin even.... Of course its in that other correct > > scale 1/72. In case anyone ever sees an Airmodel DH-5 grab it great > > little model, no decals but excellent resin, very accurate even has > > interior detail. > > I have a DH-5 too - Libramodels vacform, the oldest one of my models > still existing. An excellent little kit if you ever see one BTW. > > Also a short run somewhere - Meikraft or Merlin ?? - which came to me > courtesy of one of the kind listees some years ago. > > But - no 1/48 one. It's been on my "I must scraychbuild this" list for > years but never done for fear that Eduard/BM/Aeroclub would do to me > what they did with the Biff anyhow. > > > Should build up into a very colourful > > Aircraft (lol) > > Subtle m'boy, subtle. > > > I swapped an Eduard Pfalz for this model a year or so ago, and yes > > it was a 1/48 Pfalz ;) > > A fair swap IMHO ! > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:03 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/100 2:04:19 AM EST, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << One last post on the DH5 >> Having avoided this thread since it didn't involve me personally, I now realize perhaps it does. Is everyone aware that there is a very good likelihood of a 1/48 kit of this coming from Aeroclub this year? I spoke with John last month, and he is seriously into getting his models out, because the time taken to do that is time taken away from thinking about his late wife. (talk about someone's grey clouds being someone else's golden lining, such is life -- I guess) The B.E.2 series is also due for release this year. (Tell me again why it is we like these man-killing turkeys like the B.E., F.E.. and R.E.????) Tom (who has just realized the kitty most likely to complain quite strongly about a pedicure is the one most in need) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:23:08 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <000b01bf754b$8e4bea00$1fe8b094@sandyada> Peter - "Though Sandy makes good point regarding choice of subject, in fact my experience was the reverse. The W29 sold only half as many as the Bristol and people still ask about the Dolphin." Had that maybe something to do with the Bristol being reviewed in one of the mainstream mags though. (ie distribution - getting the kit in front of the customers) I remember, long before "meeting" you electronically, picking up a copy of SAMi or SMI with the M1C in it. I was going to write, but never got round to it - had there been a phone number and a Visa logo, I would certainly have called there and then. I would also have bought the W29, but by the time I heard of it, the guy at ID told me it was oop, and I discovered Sierra had one. Whenever I did see your kits - the Dolphin and Nieuport - I bought them. If there had been a website, I would have bought all of them - like I have bought all the Sierra vacs while they are there and are at the *right* price. God knows when I'll build them - but at under $25 for a 1/48 Rumpler, Alb CV, DFW etc, I'm happy to buy 'em while Bob makes 'em. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:01:03 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 Message-ID: <20000212150103.54193.qmail@hotmail.com> "On 12 Feb 00, at >>1:28,<< Shane Weier wrote:" Now that's what I call a modeller, even sends e-mails in constant scale ;) Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:31:46 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... =?iso-8859-1?B?oA==?= Now DH5 Message-ID: >One last post on the DH5 anyone who is thinking of building one of >these should go look at the profiles on Cam's AFC pages. I woohoo someone other than me reads the page ! :) If anyone is interested in modelling anything in those schemes, ( or any scheme on that page for that matter ) mail me and I will send on the photos that the profiles were based on. The pictures are way better starting point for an accurate scheme than any of those profiles I did. >Ray (sorry but I happen to like the DH5 lot) Me too. It oozes character. IMHO cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:39:32 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Was_Kit_Prices......_=A0_Now_DH5?= Message-ID: <003601bf756f$5bead700$890056d1@default> > >Ray (sorry but I happen to like the DH5 lot) > > Me too. It oozes character. IMHO Is that how y'all spell ugly? I like it too :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:19:35 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: I'm back did I miss anything??? DFW colours maybe ;) Message-ID: <200002121622.IAA09507@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:56:33 -0500 (EST), Ray_Boorman@telus.net wrote: > So in my absence did anyone have a solution to Aviatik dirty > mottled green for my Aviatik built DFW (oh well I can hope) I've checked three sources, the Datafile, OtF 2/3 and Windsock 7/3. Unfortunately all are vague on the Aviatik mottled colors. According to the Datafile: "The 'uniform dirty green colour' is an understandably generalised description. A lot of the Aviatik-built DFW C.Vs seem to have a mottled finish, with sprayed-on mottling of a second or third colour over a basic finish. Judging from the description of 287/18 above, perhaps this was a basic overall light green finish, with mottling of dark green and mauve? Later, 1918-built Aviatik C.Vs had 'lozenge' fabric covering too." Very vague, unfortunately. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:31:16 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <002c01bf7722$11314be0$d82e3ccc@oemcomputer> Speaking of 1/48 scale DH-5's, Lonestar just came out with a resin one a while ago. I haven't seen it yet, but at a going price of $40 it shouldn't be that far out of anyones pricerange especially due to the short run. An Eduard Albatros D.III profipack costs over $30.00 so for the extra ten bucks you can get a rare kit. Has anyone else bought the Lonestar kit? I haven't seen any reviews on this yet and was wondering how it was. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, February 11, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: RE: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 >Ray > > >> I have a DH-5, resin even.... Of course its in that other correct >> scale 1/72. In case anyone ever sees an Airmodel DH-5 grab it >> great little model, no decals but excellent resin, very accurate even >> has interior detail. > >I have a DH-5 too - Libramodels vacform, the oldest one of my models still >existing. An excellent little kit if you ever see one BTW. > >Also a short run somewhere - Meikraft or Merlin ?? - which came to me >courtesy of one of the kind listees some years ago. > >But - no 1/48 one. It's been on my "I must scraychbuild this" list for years >but never done for fear that Eduard/BM/Aeroclub would do to me what they did >with the Biff anyhow. > >> Should build up into a very colourful >> Aircraft (lol) > >Subtle m'boy, subtle. > >> I swapped an Eduard Pfalz for this model a year or so ago, and yes >> it was a 1/48 Pfalz ;) > >A fair swap IMHO ! > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. >E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:33:57 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Lonestar DH5 Message-ID: <200002121640.IAA28462@mail.rapidnet.net> Internet Modeler should have it in the next issue.... Last I heard our sample was in the mail. Bob ---------- >From: "David Calhoun" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 >Date: Sat, 12 Feb, 2000, 8:34 AM > > Speaking of 1/48 scale DH-5's, Lonestar just came out with a resin one a > while ago. I haven't seen it yet, but at a going price of $40 it shouldn't > be that far out of anyones pricerange especially due to the short run. An > Eduard Albatros D.III profipack costs over $30.00 so for the extra ten bucks > you can get a rare kit. Has anyone else bought the Lonestar kit? I haven't > seen any reviews on this yet and was wondering how it was. > Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:43:39 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: What's next???? Message-ID: It it possible to make your own wire-wheels, even in 1/72 scale. I did it on my Anatra Anasal. I don't make a habit of it though. Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "dfernet0" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:30:08 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: What's next???? WAS: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 > > Lance! > Thanks for the info about the site and prices. The Sikorsky certainly looks > like an amazing kit to work with, but when I read the price tag for a 1/72 > scale kit my eyes popped out of sockets... Now that my facial integrity is > restored, I can say to myself that I'd better practice on how to > scratchbuild it... > > And Robert K. said about the wheels: >> Now THIS may be the innovation of the century. > > This left me thinking on which innovations the future will bring to our > hobby. Injection molded kits haven't changed to much in their basic form in > the last 40 years. I know that Molds and details are better, plastics, > resins, vacs, photoetched, white metal, but what's next? > Here's my predicitions for the future: > - Pre-cut vac parts for some items (as fuselages with scale thickness > walls). > - Pre-cut injection molded parts (as wings or tail surfaces). > - Merging of the aftermarket parts industries with the kit manufacturers: > For instance, you go to the hobby shop and say "I want an Albatros" and the > clerk will ask you the particulars of what you want and you'll have decals, > engine, rudder and anything else so you'll have a model "à la carte". > - Complete interiors, I mean ALL the innards! (control wires, fuselage > structure) > - Much bigger prices! > So do you have any more predictions (or wishes?) > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:16:24 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Toko news Message-ID: I just got this in an email from Matlan, an Internet hobby shop in Belgium that's usually a reliable source. I could swear someone else posted that Revell/Germany had bought the Toko tooling. Can anybody verify that ICM actually has it instead? >...it seems that TOKO and OMEGA-K stopped their production, >and the kits are probably reissued from ICM... Al http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:13:13 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Stainless Steel Wire Message-ID: <000f01bf7584$e476ff80$c544480c@courtney> OK Group I recently my "Small Parts" catalog and trying to figure out which wire to order for rigging. It looks to me that its either Stainless Steel Type 304V (.0005") or the Stainless Steel Type 304V ANNEALED (.0005"). The annealed is on a 25' spool and the regular comes in 30" and 60" straight lengths. I have no experience with using SS Wire for rigging and would like to take a try. Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:28:50 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Toko news Message-ID: <200002121931.LAA03923@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:20:53 -0500 (EST), Al Superczynski wrote: > >...it seems that TOKO and OMEGA-K stopped their production, > >and the kits are probably reissued from ICM... Hmmm...this is one of the rumors I heard, that ICM has the molds. They *do* have the Omega-K molds, and are now issueing those kits under the ICM monikor. Personally I hope ICM has the molds. While Revell may do a better job, I would like to see one of the CIS companies hang around - since Toko is to have folded, and we have heard nothing from Dakoplast all year - and I feel with the Toko molds it definitely can't hurt ICM. Plus it will add more Correct Scale items to their other fodder. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:29:50 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Wire Message-ID: <200002121932.LAA04480@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:25:19 -0500 (EST), Courtney Allen wrote: > I recently my "Small Parts" catalog and trying to figure out which wire to > order for rigging. It looks to me that its either Stainless Steel Type 304V > (.0005") or the Stainless Steel Type 304V ANNEALED (.0005"). The annealed > is on a 25' spool and the regular comes in 30" and 60" straight lengths. I > have no experience with using SS Wire for rigging and would like to take a > try. I would personally opt for the "already straight" stuff. Sure, it's probably more expensive, but one modeling item you don't have to worry about - straightening the wire. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:32:20 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Resin help Message-ID: <200002121934.LAA05936@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> I know this has been gone over in the past - and probably should be put in the FAQ - but I have to ask again. I just received two awesome CzechMaster kits, and all three wings (one's a monoplane) are warped in some fashion. These wings are *too scale* (1/72nd, naturally) and are very thin, and I don't want to mess these wings up at all. Does anybody have "Joey's drawings" for his "box"? What about using hot water? I can I keep the wings straight and not worry about ruining the wonderful "thinness"? TIA, all! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:42:34 -0800 From: "Bryan Deatherage" To: Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Wire Message-ID: <000a01bf7591$500e85e0$0c7e1e3f@default> Clamp one end in a vise and grab the other with your pliers and you can straighten annealed stainless in a jiffy. You can feel the wire stretch very slightly, then you stop. Bryan Deatherage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:03:56 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Resin help - de-warping wings Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/100 2:35:52 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com bleats: << Does anybody have "Joey's drawings" for his "box"? What about using hot water? I can I keep the wings straight and not worry about ruining the wonderful "thinness"? >> heat water just to the boiling point but not boiling. Hold the part in the water until it moves and straightens. Immediately run it under cold water to "freeze" in position. It doesn't matter if it's microscopic modeling or manly scale. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:57:13 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Resin help Message-ID: <006d01bf7593$5b3670c0$890056d1@default> Matt: I tried Joey's box method and found it to be very successful on the 1:28 Spad wings. I imagine 1:72 resin ones would heat way quicker. It's the evenness of the heating that does the trick. I used a box made of heavy duty cardboard. About 8 x 12 x 3. I cut a hole for D.VII's hair dryer nozzle in one of the 8 x 3 sides and an exit hole kittycorner on the other 8 x 3 side. I went so far as to fold baffles out of 3x5 cards and tape them inside to break up any straight airflow. The box needs to be perfectly flat on the inside bottom. Cut out a single piece od cardboard the correct size and lay it in there if the botton isn't flat. I have a lid on top (the 8 x 12 side) and I frequently open it to peer at the piece while it heats. Caution rulz here. With the big styrene slab, it soon got hot enough to relax and lay flat. I then took it and taped it to the top of my glass display case till it cooled completely. Now, will resin relax and lay flat when heated like styrene? Will it retain a new shape when cooled? I haven't a clue. I'm fixin to re-do the lower Spad wing bevause there is still a little bow in it. I have a warped resin fuselage piece. (Thick wall1/48 scale) that I will experiment on and see if it works. I'll let you know how it did later on this evening. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:55:48 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: MoS Type AI question Message-ID: <200002122258.OAA15493@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> One thing that's still alluding me is the color of the cockpit sides of the MoS Type AI. Now common sense would dictate CDL because of the fabric, but since the Nie.28 interior sides were light grey, I wonder about the MoS as well. What about the metal area on French insides? Again, logic would dictate some sort of grey, but this is WW1 colors we're talking about. The color photo's on the back cover of Windsock 8/3 show everything but the fabric, plus it has the metal tubular framework as a bright blue! That can't be right...can it? Has anybody seen the inside of Palen's AI? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2139 **********************