WWI Digest 2138

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Copper State Sopwith Strutter
	by smperry@mindspring.com
  2) Re: SPAD book on ebay
	by KarrArt@aol.com
  3) Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
  4) Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
	by "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
  5) Re: SPAD book on ebay
	by Allan Wright <aew>
  6) Re: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
	by "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
  7) Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
	by "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
  8) Re: Copper State Sopwith Strutter
	by "Ken Acosta" <kacosta.CORP_PO.C_CORP@colsa.com>
  9) Re: Copper State Sopwith Strutter
	by "Ken Acosta" <kacosta.CORP_PO.C_CORP@colsa.com>
 10) Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 11) 
	by "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
 12) Re: Master Club Wheels
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 13) Re: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by "Craig Gavin" <cgavin@ipa.net>
 14) Kosciuszko Squadron Insignia
	by "Mike Fanklin" <modelhound@earthlink.net>
 15) two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 16) Re: Kits of Italian WW1 aeroplanes - the list
	by Steve Cox <steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk>
 17) Re: Kits of Italian WW1 aeroplanes - the list
	by "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
 18) Re: Kits of Italian WW1 aeroplanes - the list
	by smperry@mindspring.com
 19) BM & Pegasus
	by smperry@mindspring.com
 20) UK Shows
	by "John Sharp" <jsharp@worldonline.co.uk>
 21) Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by mgoodwin@ricochet.net
 22) Re: Farman HF30 and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
	by Zulis@aol.com
 23) monogram Fokker
	by THOMAS SOLINSKI <tskio4@home.com>
 24) Cyg Will Be in the D.C. Area
	by "John & Allison Cyganowski" <janah@worldnet.att.net>
 25) Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 26) Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by Lyle Lamboley <lyle.lamboley@juno.com>
 27) Re: Ernie's ot Bipe
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 28) Another sorta site
	by "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 29) Italian colors
	by "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 30) I'm back did I miss anything??? DFW colours maybe ;)
	by Ray_Boorman@telus.net
 31) RE: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 32) RE: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 33) RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 34) RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:49:53 -0500
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Copper State Sopwith Strutter
Message-ID: <003401bf74b8$671fb940$d10156d1@default>


----- Original Message -----
From: <smperry@mindspring.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Copper State Sopwith Strutter


> Ken:
>
> I was at the Titusville Fla Modelfest 2000 show last weekend and a CSM
> Strutter took Second in 1:48  Allied prop. A beautiful kit. The builder's
> only gripe was a seat he thought was too small and he would have liked
more
> details in the drawings/plans
>
> I saw the model half built as well as finished and it looks like an
> excellent build.
>
> hth
> sp
>
> > All-
> >
> > Not new to modeling but new to WWI.  I'm interested in finding a good
1/48
> Sopwith Strutter and the only one I know of is the one from Copper State.
> It looks great on their web site and I enjoy mixed media.  Is there anyone
> out there who has built this kit and could share some insight (accuracy,
> assembly, etc.)?  Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Ken
> >
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:56:51 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: SPAD book on ebay
Message-ID: <8c.101c799.25d5a763@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/11/00 8:38:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
tbittners@sprintmail.com writes:

<< The Arco-Aircam book on the SPAD scouts can be found here for a
 decent price:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=258292730
 
 
 Matt Bittner >>

 Yeah- pretty good price! Looks like it's the original, and not the Glencoe 
reprint that came with the great decal sheet.
RK

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:29:40 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <s8a400c4.063@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

.. a [CSM] SE5

I have one.

    Damned nice kit too.  Who have the other 4?

                                                                        DB
I've got one, and it's moving up the to-build list if I can figure out which of the Americal 56 Squadron decals will look best... got to have that greenhouse canopy!

But at the rate I'm going, it'll be next year before I finish Eric's HB W-12.  I am obsessing now about the cowl louvers in the Benz-powered version.  But I think I've got it whipped...

Lance



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:37:39 GMT
From: "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
Message-ID: <20000211183739.42155.qmail@hotmail.com>

Sandy..."The major planning would be how to distribute the number of kits 
needed to make a profit at that sales price. Of course we are all using the 
answer right now - the Internet."


Absolutely spot on Sandy. If I were still prepared to spend all night 
pouring resin in a cold garden shed, that's exactly what I would do.
Please, any listees who think they might like to have a bash must do so. I 
may come across as a miserable old bugger, but I can promise you there's no 
modeling buzz the equal of producing a kit from scratch. Two dozen or so 
home made kits of the right subject will shift in a crowd like as this, and 
I am sure we would all make allowances for something never intended as a 
commercial product. I approached resin kit production as an extension of the 
hobby rather than a commercial enterprise, had I stuck to that I'd probably 
still be doing it.

Though Sandy makes good point regarding choice of subject, in fact my 
experience was the reverse. The W29 sold only half as many as the Bristol 
and people still ask about the Dolphin. How many eyes light up at the 
mention of a DH5?


Peter Leonard
IPMS UK
Lancashire & Cheshire Branch
http://www.storks.cwc.net
http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com
PeterL@cwcom.net

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:54:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: SPAD book on ebay
Message-ID: <200002111854.NAA28564@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Speaking of the decal sheet that comes with the Glencoe
book, anyone have any OT 1/72 they want to trade
for my sheet - I'll never use them.

-Allan

> In a message dated 2/11/00 8:38:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
> tbittners@sprintmail.com writes:
> 
> << The Arco-Aircam book on the SPAD scouts can be found here for a
>  decent price:
>  
>  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=258292730
>  
>  
>  Matt Bittner >>
> 
>  Yeah- pretty good price! Looks like it's the original, and not the Glencoe 
> reprint that came with the great decal sheet.
> RK
> 


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:57:01 GMT
From: "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
Message-ID: <20000211185701.63676.qmail@hotmail.com>

Lance...."I have already sent an e-mail to try to get the wheels as a
             separate item, and will advise."

Yes, please do. Okay, they ARE a bit pricey, but who here has not spent as 
much on etch or decals for that "secial" model?

Peter L
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:05:48 -0800
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
Message-ID: <200002111911.LAA25727@mail.rapidnet.net>

Peter sayeth,

> Though Sandy makes good point regarding choice of subject, in fact my
> experience was the reverse. The W29 sold only half as many as the Bristol
> and people still ask about the Dolphin. How many eyes light up at the
> mention of a DH5?

that's cuz you only made a dozen Dophins

Bob

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:22:01 -0600
From: "Ken Acosta" <kacosta.CORP_PO.C_CORP@colsa.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Copper State Sopwith Strutter
Message-ID: <s8a40d13.010@colsa.com>

Dave-

Thanks for the teriffic response.  My birthday's coming up and now I know what to ask for.

Ken


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:24:00 -0600
From: "Ken Acosta" <kacosta.CORP_PO.C_CORP@colsa.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Copper State Sopwith Strutter
Message-ID: <s8a40d8e.018@colsa.com>

Mr. Perry-

Thanks for the response.  I'm really encouraged.

Ken


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:39:30 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
Message-ID: <s8a4111e.042@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Peter notes:

" How many eyes light up at the mention of a DH5?" 

Mine lit up, but note that there IS a 1/48 resin DH5 from Lone Star before you mortgage your garden shed to begin production again.


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:45:02 -0600
From: "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'World War I'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Message-ID: <E163A98BC3D0D2119CAA0000832180C27347D7@exchange6.health.state.ok.us>

Wwi subscribe Mack Harris

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:46:51 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Master Club Wheels
Message-ID: <s8a412d7.057@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Hmmm... it just gets more expensive all the time.

Oleg in Moscow reports that he CAN supply these wheels.  But instead of the $4.25 that the price differential would indicate, they are $8.00 each, plus $6.00 postage: A set of 4 is $38.00.

I have protested based on the arithmetic previously employed; perhaps he will reconsider, though he is a middleman. 

Lance


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:18:11 -0600
From: "Craig Gavin" <cgavin@ipa.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <200002112017.OAA23190@postoffice5.ipa.net>

Lance - "Profligate"?  That is one to stick in our Funk & Wagnel.  But I am
most sympathetic to what you're saying.  Some guys & gals probably have the
skill to make pristine and accurate wire wheel such as you describe, but not
me.  I've tried those PE sets and never been very satisfied.  They're
passable, but barely.  For one, I'd be happy to pay $8.50 for a really great
set of 1/72nd scale wire wheels for a model that I've spent considerable
time modeling.  So let me know what you find out.  Thanks - Craig Gavin
----------
>From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
>Subject: Re: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
>Date: Fri, Feb 11, 2000, 10:07 AM
>

>Robert writes:<< 
>
> "... four wire wheels, pre-made and equipped with tires, ... if wheels 
>like this could be made available as an aftermarket goody (and at a price 
>that didn't 
>eat the yearly pizza budget), my stress level would go WAY down."
>
>Using the price differential already pointed out by Mr. Kendrix (?), the 
>wheels are are $4.25 apiece or $8.50 for a set of two.  This is the same 
>for either scale.
>
>Although I've already been made to feel like some sort of elitist 
>profligate, I will continue to court approbrium by stating that I consider 
>this price very reasonable for the quality and the work involved.  
>
>The last time I scratch-built wire wheels, it took me about 8 hours and the 
>result was not this good.  Even PE wheels take me 2 hours, minimum.  My 
>hourly rate is more than $4.25, as is anyone's who can afford a computer 
>and an internet connection (cottage industry kit makers excepted, bless 
>their hearts).
>
>I have already sent an e-mail to try to get the wheels as a separate item, 
>and will advise.
>
>Lance  

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:18:41 -0800
From: "Mike Fanklin" <modelhound@earthlink.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Kosciuszko Squadron Insignia
Message-ID: <007401bf74cd$31dabe00$9aecfc9e@default>

I am currently in the process of making some of these for my own use on a
converted Eduard Albatros project.  If anyone would like copies, in any
scale, please contact me off list.

Mike Franklin
Bellingham, WA

"No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit."


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:59:26 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <d2.f24926.25d5d22e@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/11/00 8:05:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
lance.krieg@amerus.com writes:

<< Although I've already been made to feel like some sort of elitist 
profligate, >>

There's nothing wrong with being an elitist profligate. Just remember the 
opposite would be a common cheapskate...........
Now........there are two separate modelers living in my head. One builds for 
fun and enjoyment. He'd rather make his own parts and markings, in his own 
sweet time. He fumbles around, takes long breaks and occasionally gets 
royally pissed and throws completed sub-assemblies across the room. The other 
guy builds for money, and he'll use whatever makes the project go quicker and 
turn out better, and that allows him to still to hang on to a little bit of 
that wonderful, life-sustaining profit.  Sometimes these two guys will get 
together and agree on something if the circumstances are right- like if a 
contest deadline is coming up. Mr. Profit convinces Mr. Aesthetic Purist 
Bozo-head that aftermarket stuff is the way to go. 
RK

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:31:27 +0000
From: Steve Cox <steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Kits of Italian WW1 aeroplanes - the list
Message-ID: <B4C8E961.3CC%steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk>

Does anyone have reviews or comments on the quality of the Pegasus Maachi M5
and Joystick Ansaldo A1

Regards 
Steve
===========================================
steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk
  If I didn't spend so much time on line
    ‹‹ I'd get some models finished
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:45:21 GMT
From: "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Kits of Italian WW1 aeroplanes - the list
Message-ID: <20000211214521.30159.qmail@hotmail.com>

The Joystick Ballila is very nice, as IMO are most of the Jostick vacs. 
Connecting with another thread the decals (another thing Joystick do well) 
has a Kosciuszko option with an additional slightly larger set for an Alb 
DIII, which would be just about usuable on a 1/48 A1

Peter L

----Original Message Follows----
From: Steve Cox <steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk>
Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Kits of Italian WW1 aeroplanes - the list
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:36:50 -0500 (EST)

Does anyone have reviews or comments on the quality of the Pegasus Maachi M5
and Joystick Ansaldo A1

Regards
Steve
===========================================
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http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk
   If I didn't spend so much time on line
     ‹‹ I'd get some models finished
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:41:33 -0500
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Kits of Italian WW1 aeroplanes - the list
Message-ID: <002f01bf74e1$25fc0440$060b56d1@default>

I have the Pegasus Macchi M-5. Lovely kit. I was corresponding with Chris
Gannon and he said that if he were to do a model for a contest, he would do
the M-5.

If you see one, nab it.

sp



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:45:37 -0500
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: BM & Pegasus
Message-ID: <003b01bf74e1$b74fff00$060b56d1@default>

I am passing along a copy of correspondence I received the other day. It is
in response to my question: Which BM & which Pegasus kits do you have the
least of in stock?
sp

Dear SP,

The lowest stocks we have are of the following kits:
1/72.
Albatros D-111 OEF,  Rumpler C.IV,  Phonix D-I,
1/48.
SPAD VII,  DH2,  Pfalz D-XII, N.28.

We can accept any money orders as long as they are in Sterling; made payable
to S.P. Gannon.  Also, if you use registered post cash in Sterling is fine.
(If you send Dollars, we get charged 30 Dollars per transaction!!)

Regards,


Chris Gannon.




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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:59:17 -0000
From: "John Sharp" <jsharp@worldonline.co.uk>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: UK Shows
Message-ID: <008001bf74e3$ad08da60$842517d4@js1>

I shall be assisting Geoff on the Aces High stand at both the Huddersfield
and Crewe shows here in Blighty this month. Anybody wishing to spend any
amount of dosh will be most welcome, anybody wishing to chew the cud equally
so. I'll be the one with the pony tail, Geoff will be the one with the pint
glass (I'm driving :(  )
Cheers


John Sharp

For more details see
http://www.bigfoot.com/~AcesModels
http://www.merseyworld.com/mcc
http://members.tripod.co.uk/John_Sharp/SOHome.htm


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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 03:52:43 -0800
From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <38A5498B.4F4E@ricochet.net>

> In a message dated 2/11/00 8:05:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> lance.krieg@amerus.com writes:
> 
> << Although I've already been made to feel like some sort of elitist
> profligate, 

It was not my intention to ruffle any feathers, or offend anyone, and I
apologize for any transgressions.
 
> There's nothing wrong with being an elitist profligate. Just remember the
> opposite would be a common cheapskate...........

While I definitely qualify as a cheapskate (perhaps the official list
cheapskate at that), I might take exception to being labeled common. :)
>From time to time I feel compelled to whinge about the dwindling
affordability of my favorite modeling subject because I think it's an
issue that needs to be addressed.  This is in spite of the fact that
I've got such a pile of Eduards, vintage kits, etc. that I won't be able
to build all that I have now.  And so it goes...        

A thousand or more pardons,

Riordan

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:06:47 EST
From: Zulis@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Farman HF30 and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
Message-ID: <4c.199ae84.25d5fe17@aol.com>

Kari writes:

<< The second flying machine in Estonian Air Force was a captured Sopwith
 Strutter. Does anyone know when DUKS in Russia started their license
 manufacture of the Strutter? Or is the Estonian example made in UK?  >>

Hi Kari!

The Insignia booklet on the Estonian Air Force 1918 - 1940 has a very 
rudimentary profile of the Strutter (I am getting spoiled by Bob and Chris) 
and the following caption:

"Serial No. 3, Estonian Aviation Company, Talinn, 1919.
Delivered in February 1919, this was the sole Strutter used by the Estonian 
armed forces.   Formerly serialled 2469 in hte Imperial Russian Air Service, 
this machine was captured from the Bolsheviks on 31 January 1919 when it made 
a forced landing near Vastseliina in southern Estonia.    The Red pilot 
Rudolf Piir, who coincidentally was Estonian, escaped with his observer back 
to Soviet lines.    This aircraft is finished overall in Dark Green with 
Clear Doped Linen undersurfaces.    The forward fuselage and cowling are in a 
Light Grey or Natural Metal finish.    Estonian triangular markings are 
carried in four wing positions, all of these outlined in white.   Estonian 
colours are also painted on the rudder.    No serial number is visible."

So, it was captured from the Bolsheviks, who probably got it from the White 
Russians.... who may or may not have made it themselves.    Gotta love it.

Dave Z

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:12:23 -0600
From: THOMAS SOLINSKI <tskio4@home.com>
To: WW-I List <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: monogram Fokker
Message-ID: <38A4A567.25767B6@home.com>

Hi list time for a new thread

I do not own a single datafile yet.  Could one of you more learned folks
give me clue as to if the candy stripe decal that comes in the old
Monogram D-VII has any historical basis or was it just Monogram
continuing the bogus of the time?
TIA
Tom S


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:34:46 -0500
From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" <janah@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Cyg Will Be in the D.C. Area
Message-ID: <000701bf74f0$f7d35ae0$4737183f@cyrixp166>

Greetings to the Washington D.C. contingent of the list.  I will be in
McLean, Va for a conference from Sunday, 2/13 until Wed. 2/16.  Would you
like to get together? Sharon, Alvie?

Regards,
Cyg.


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:43:51 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <fb.20e366d.25d606c7@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/11/00 4:00:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes:

<< 
 A thousand or more pardons,
 
 Riordan >>

I for one, will give you not a single pardon! I don't think you need 
one....at least not from me!
Anyway- my own cheapskate tendencies have served me well- one of my 
methodologies for obtaining "luxury" modeling goods, guilt free, (not 
Eduards, Datafiles etc....those are NECESSITIES)is to wheedle and whine at 
Christmas and birthday. People in this house are now convinced that PE makes 
great stocking stuffer type gifts. Those $50-$70 kits and books can also 
sometimes be obtained using this simple method.
RK

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:27:00 -0500
From: Lyle Lamboley <lyle.lamboley@juno.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <20000211.202701.-118303.2.lyle.lamboley@juno.com>

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:04:17 -0500 (EST) KarrArt@aol.com writes:
> He fumbles around, takes long breaks and occasionally 
> gets 
> royally pissed and throws completed sub-assemblies across the room. 

And then after an hour of scrambling around on the floor with a
flashlight, you actually find all of the parts that went in every
direction.
LL

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 1980 19:41:42 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Ernie's ot Bipe
Message-ID: <12DD3E55.F36D4E0D@bellsouth.net>

Hi All(ok, 5 of you all)
Thanks for the nice words on my little bipe. In truth, this model was a
'quickieslapittogether' test shot to try out the test shot decals that the
Modelhound(Mike Franklin) sent me. I asked Steve to put them on his web site for
a few days so y'all could see what kind of work Mike is capable of. The decals
were great. As for the size, something that was part of the decals, but so small
as to be lost in the photo/scan/enlarge process was the Pitts S-2S Logo and N
number on the tail.
As for the model itself, I'm still looking for another one of these to try out
in yellow.
If anybody has, or knows where might get one, PLEASE lmk.
Thanks again for the nice words, but the comps should go to Mike. I just
asembled some parts and painted them red. And Big Thanks to SP for the scan and
site space.
E.



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:37:30 -0600
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Another sorta site
Message-ID: <200002120240.SAA05713@raven.a001.sprintmail.com>

Although I haven't seen his name on the list anymore (I wonder if
he is truly around anymore?), you can see two more on-topic
models by Franco Poloni here:

http://www.ipmsitaly.com/vetrina/fpoloni.html


Matt Bittner
http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:43:49 -0600
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Italian colors
Message-ID: <200002120246.SAA09436@raven.a001.sprintmail.com>

In case you can't tell, I'm surfin' the IPMS/Italy site.  Here
are some matches for Italian colors:

http://www.ipmsitaly.com/colww1.html

For more information on their research on avaition topics, go
here:

http://www.ipmsitaly.com/aeronautica.html


Matt Bittner
http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:52:11 -0800
From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: I'm back did I miss anything??? DFW colours maybe ;)
Message-ID: <200002120451.UAA20273@smtpout.telus.net>

Good evening eh!, I'm back from my week away training did I miss 
anything (I have 350 or so emails in my box ;( sheesh you guys do 
talk a lot.

I have read some of my emails, Congratulations Steve Schofield on 
the arrival of your daughter. Contrary to popular opinion the 
sleepless nights mean more modeling time, why sleep you'll only 
get woken up in 2 or 3 hours!!! 

So in my absence did anyone have a solution to Aviatik dirty 
mottled green for my Aviatik built DFW (oh well I can hope)

Ray (I now know why companies send employees away to train, 
instead of 8 hours a day they get 12 even 16 hours, man am I tired)


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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:59:00 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CE4@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

DB says:

>  And I disagree with the previous 
> statement about
> having to have multi-media in the box or it won't sell: I 
> find that there is
> alot that PE is not good for, as is white metal. 

FWIW I agree here. There is little in most etched brass accessories for WW1
models that can't be done better by other means - the big exception being
Spandau jackets - and many of the pieces are harder to use than
scratchbuilding. 

More basic kits like those from Toko (sob) and Eduard (non profi) are just
fine with me too.

Shane










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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:01:42 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Kit Prices: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16
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> How many eyes light up at the 
> mention of a DH5?

DH-5 ??  Someone said DH-5 ???



Shane



















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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:06:06 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CE6@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

RK
 
> One builds for 
> fun and enjoyment. He'd rather make his own parts and 
> markings, in his own 
> sweet time. He fumbles around, takes long breaks and 
> occasionally gets 
> royally pissed and throws completed sub-assemblies across the 
> room.

....I know that guy. Especially the bit about fumbling around.

> like if a 
> contest deadline is coming up. Mr. Profit convinces Mr. 
> Aesthetic Purist 
> Bozo-head that aftermarket stuff is the way to go. 

Oooh, him too. My Biff *was* going to have scratchbuilt wheels.....

Shane















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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:12:22 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky  S-16
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CE7@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Rio,

> >From time to time I feel compelled to whinge about the dwindling
> affordability of my favorite modeling subject because I think it's an
> issue that needs to be addressed.  This is in spite of the fact that
> I've got such a pile of Eduards, vintage kits, etc. that I 
> won't be able
> to build all that I have now.  And so it goes...        
> 
> A thousand or more pardons,

Pardons be damned. Unless there's a closet millionaire amongst us I *bet*
we've all felt the tug-o-war between want and need (want models - need to
pay bills) and have from time to time wished that prices were lower.

My solution - to think back 10-20 years and remember how expensive the many
WW1 kits then on the market were. OH - that's right, there *weren't* many!
No wonder it's costing me a fortune, because now there are so many kits it's
hard to keep up - which is maybe not quite such a burden after all.

Shane














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