WWI Digest 2134 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Web site by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: Ebay Alb C.V by Lyle Lamboley 3) Re: Web site by Lyle Lamboley 4) Re: New 1/72 Roseparts by BStett3770@aol.com 5) Adding to the collection by "Steven Schofield" 6) Re:Glencoe was Web site by "Peter Leonard" 7) RE: Adding to the collection by Shane Weier 8) Re: Adding to the collection by "Matthew Bittner" 9) Re: Adding to the collection by smperry@mindspring.com 10) Re: Adding to the collection by "Peter Leonard" 11) Re: Adding to the collection by "Richard Eaton" 12) Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 by "David Calhoun" 13) Re: Website by "Richard Eaton" 14) Re: Info on Clifton Cottrel, and introduction by James Elkins 15) Re: Adding to the collection by THOMAS SOLINSKI 16) Re: Ebay Alb C.V by nieuport 17) Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 by Witold Kozakiewicz 18) Re: Adding to the collection by Lubos.Vinar@ahold.cz 19) Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 by "Bob Pearson" 20) RE: Adding to the collection by "dfernet0" 21) Re: Adding to the collection by Witold Kozakiewicz 22) Rickenbacker etc pics by "Sandy Adam" 23) a few words more on MAC by "dfernet0" 24) sowhadImiss by smperry@mindspring.com 25) RE: sowhadImiss by "dfernet0" 26) Re: sowhadImiss by "Matthew Bittner" 27) Re: sowhadImiss by smperry@mindspring.com 28) RE: sowhadImiss by "dfernet0" 29) Re: sowhadImiss by "Matthew Bittner" 30) Re: sowhadImiss by smperry@mindspring.com 31) Re: sowhadImiss by "Matthew Bittner" 32) Re: sowhadImiss by smperry@mindspring.com 33) Re: Ebay Alb C.V by "David Calhoun" 34) Farman HF30 and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter by Kari Lumppio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:15:23 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web site Message-ID: In a message dated 2/9/00 1:51:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, lyle.lamboley@juno.com writes: << > Didn't Chuck also do the artwork for the Glencoe WWI kits? > Glen That was John Amendola. Lyle >> CS DID do some profiles for Glencoe box bottems- Amendola did the actual boxtop illustrations. I just dug out the boxes for the Nieuport and Pfalz...I can't remember if there were others. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:07:18 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ebay Alb C.V Message-ID: <20000209.170719.-161317.2.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> Matt, Thanks for the ebay link to that Albatros pic. Who has their money on that photo? Lyle On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:40:29 -0500 (EST) "Matthew Bittner" writes: > Here's a very nice photo of an Albatros C.V people can save for > future reference: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=256780454 > > > Matt Bittner > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:25:17 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web site Message-ID: <20000209.172518.-161317.3.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:22:51 -0500 (EST) KarrArt@aol.com writes: > CS DID do some profiles for Glencoe box bottems- Amendola did the > actual > boxtop illustrations. I just dug out the boxes for the Nieuport and > Pfalz...I > can't remember if there were others. > RK Talk about a collaboration of artists! Yourself, Amendola, Chuck S... The kits are worth the price just for the art, IMO. Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:37:22 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New 1/72 Roseparts Message-ID: <32.10378fa.25d34622@aol.com> Hi Dave We're thinking about it. But with the Eduards kit out of production not sure if there would be enough takers. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:41:50 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <000f01bf734f$14adac40$baa893c3@oemcomputer> My wife gave birth to a healthy seven pound, eleven ounce baby girl this morning. Mother and baby doing fine, father feeling a bit wobbly. Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 22:40:33 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Glencoe was Web site Message-ID: <20000209224033.46934.qmail@hotmail.com> I got a note from Hannants to-day telling me that my back order for the Glencoe French Aces SPAD, held since about August last, is cancelled and that this item is now OOP. Although it doesn't say so directly Glencoe's web site does appear to confirm this in an abiguous sort of way. I just wonder how this effects the long awaited DH4. Anyone have contacts? Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:49:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CD2@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Scho, > My wife gave birth to a healthy seven pound, eleven ounce > baby girl this > morning. Mother and baby doing fine, father feeling a bit wobbly. Way hey! Congratulations old mate - and good health to Mum and babe. Now, get back to the bench and model like blazes. No sleep for the next few months so you'd better store up some memories ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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Good luck finding modeling time now! :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:58:03 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <001701bf7351$1fc1c100$1d0b56d1@default> > My wife gave birth to a healthy seven pound, eleven ounce baby girl this > morning. Mother and baby doing fine, father feeling a bit wobbly. > > Scho Scho: Congratulations on the new family member. And to beat Matt to it ..."Pictures!" Regards sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:00:15 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <20000209230015.98942.qmail@hotmail.com> Congrats. OT: I believe feeding bottle sterelising fluid is just the job for removing old decals ;) Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:07:02 -0600 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <001601bf7363$2552c080$ad305d18@austin.rr.com> Congratulations Scho! Best Wishes to the growing family! Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Schofield To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 4:44 PM Subject: Adding to the collection > My wife gave birth to a healthy seven pound, eleven ounce baby girl this > morning. Mother and baby doing fine, father feeling a bit wobbly. > > Scho > http://www.ww1.org.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:35:36 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 Message-ID: <007201bf7512$9d00ce00$d90c3ccc@oemcomputer> Does anyone make decals in 1/48 scale for Albatros D.III flown by the Kosciuszko squadron? If not, can anyone e-mail me a scan of the Blue Rider 1/72 scale decal sheet off-line? Thanks, Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 >Matthew Bittner wrote: >> >> I just saw a new decal sheet for Polish SPAD's. > >FWIW, AFAIK, these aircraft were flown by the Poles against the Bolshies >in the extra inning of the Russian Civil War known variously as the >Russo-Polish or Polish-Russian War, depending on which side of the fence >you're on or prefer. Americans were also mixed up in this, and I >believe a Blue Rider sheet as well as one of HitKit's Albatrosen >features markings of the valiant Kosciuszko (7th Sq.) boys. For more >details, Karolevitz & Fenn's Flight of Eagles is highly recommended. >The 7th's commander, Merian Cooper, would later have a very successful >career in Hollywood, producing King Kong in the early '30s. > >R. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:40:13 -0600 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: Website Message-ID: <003601bf7367$c78e9820$ad305d18@austin.rr.com> Allan, Thanks for the honesty and hard work. You could have made up a story about a massive hacker attack on the site or something equally exciting you know. We would have believed you! Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:19 AM Subject: Website > Hi all, > > Due to some stupidity on my part the WHOLE website got destroyed last > night. I am in the middle of recovering it. The site is up, but I am still > recovering the files that I have changed this week. Soon things will be better. > > -Allan > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ > University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > ============================================================================ === ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:58:22 -0600 From: James Elkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Info on Clifton Cottrel, and introduction Message-ID: <001901bf736a$511dd360$dc723ed8@JamesElkins> > Once again, my apologies if this is a re-hash of material that has > already been gone over. > Bob > > > bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: > > > There was also a brief article in Aviation History this month about the 91st. They flew Renault's until they were replaced with Salmson's. The article seems to cover all planes shot down and victories scored but doesn't mention Cottrel. A photo of the 91st on August 1, 1918 doesn't show or mention him in the group personnel photo. No apologies at all. Thanks for the info. The Renaults are Avion Renaults A.R.s 1 & 2 Series IIRC. Sometimes refered to as Dorand. I believe Bob Pearson has a profile on his web page under the 1st Aero Squadron USA. Now I am off to the book store to get the copy of Aviation History!!! Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:56:32 -0600 From: THOMAS SOLINSKI To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <38A236F0.8CDB90CC@home.com> Congrats from Oklahoma. If this is your first are you ready for the most radical change you have ever had in your life? Best wishes to all Tom and Jan Solinski P,S. Did the wobbly father think of a name? How about So? Then she can be So Scho her whole life. Steven Schofield wrote: > My wife gave birth to a healthy seven pound, eleven ounce baby girl this > morning. Mother and baby doing fine, father feeling a bit wobbly. > > Scho > http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:43:51 -0500 From: nieuport To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ebay Alb C.V Message-ID: <38A25017.1C0EFFFA@home.com> check out his other auctions...much more interesting stuff and all big scans too :) -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:44:02 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 Message-ID: <38A26C42.67E23A12@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> - mgoodwin@ricochet.net napisał(a): > > > FWIW, AFAIK, these aircraft were flown by the Poles against the Bolshies > in the extra inning of the Russian Civil War known variously as the > Russo-Polish or Polish-Russian War, depending on which side of the fence [..] I'm quite sure that these spads were not used during that war. Maybe first one of Mieczyslaw Garsztka (red round SPAD 1) - it's plane in which he died in crash landing, AFAIR it was at Mokotow Field in Warsaw. Second is from pilot's school, rest I think was used later and these from Poznan and Torun weren't used against Soviet Russia. I look to my books and see some details if you wish. If I could see numbers from that sheet I could write more about plane. Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:58:27 +0100 From: Lubos.Vinar@ahold.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <41256881.002BD636.00@eurcomm1.ahold.cz> Congrats Sho And good health to Mum and babe. Lubos Vinar "Steven Schofield" na 09.02.2000 23:44:47 My wife gave birth to a healthy seven pound, eleven ounce baby girl this morning. Mother and baby doing fine, father feeling a bit wobbly. Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:01:43 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 Message-ID: <200002100845.AAA29799@mail.rapidnet.net> Many Polish Spads were ex USAS ones from the 94th Aero Sqn and the 138 Aero Sqns. C&C(INT) and OTF have recently run articles on both and show some of the 94's 'showbirds' crated for delivery to the Poles. Can't say if the ones refered to below are from these or not. Bob (Only 'Robert' when I am in trouble) ---------- >From: Witold Kozakiewicz >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Off-topic SPAD 7 & 13 >Date: Wed, 9 Feb, 2000, 11:50 PM > > > - > > mgoodwin@ricochet.net napisał(a): >> >> >> FWIW, AFAIK, these aircraft were flown by the Poles against the Bolshies >> in the extra inning of the Russian Civil War known variously as the >> Russo-Polish or Polish-Russian War, depending on which side of the fence > [..] > > I'm quite sure that these spads were not used during that war. Maybe > first one of Mieczyslaw Garsztka (red round SPAD 1) - it's plane in > which he died in crash landing, AFAIR it was at Mokotow Field in > Warsaw. > Second is from pilot's school, rest I think was used later and these > from Poznan and Torun weren't used against Soviet Russia. > I look to my books and see some details if you wish. If I could see > numbers from that sheet I could write more about plane. > > Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:29:14 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <003d01bf73a9$4c219600$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Congratulations Scho! buy for your baby a ton of OT kits and build them for her! She'll be grateful when she'll grow up. D. > Steven Schofield wrote: > > > My wife gave birth to a healthy seven pound, eleven ounce baby girl this > > morning. Mother and baby doing fine, father feeling a bit wobbly. > > > > Scho > > http://www.ww1.org.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:53:15 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Adding to the collection Message-ID: <38A28A8B.CF3794D6@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> dfernet0 napisał(a): > > Congratulations Scho! > buy for your baby a ton of OT kits and build them for her! She'll be > grateful when she'll grow up. > D. So many toys to play with ;-), All the best for all your family. Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:16:28 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Rickenbacker etc pics Message-ID: <002801bf73b0$055729e0$22e8b094@sandyada> Have a look at this http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254157433 84 pics and a bit of a SPAD! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:17:08 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: a few words more on MAC Message-ID: <004701bf73af$fcdbd680$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi friends Yesterday the mail brought the awaited parcel containing the Eduard Albatros and the MAC Fokker EIV. The Albatros: You're doing a disservice to yourselves not buying it. As previously said, is the best 1/72 kit seen to date. Just two things: the sparse cockpit (I'm sure that the profipack is coming soon) and the tail fin can be sanded just a bit to a more streamlined section. Then, just glue the parts togheter. Just to imagine what a Hustad or a Casirati can do with one of these jewels! The MAC Fokker... well, it was a good new that Eduard will release an 1/72 E.III in the future, since it'll be easier to convert it than to correct the MAC flaws. However, altough the kit raw from the box is chunky and has some flash, its dimensions mirror the drawings in Harleyford's book of WW1 fighters and are quite close to Stair's plans. In fact, I suspect that the casting of the kit is not a problem, but the quality of the master pattern. I detected even file scratches around the "hump" in the fuselage, and the cylinders on the engine are exact copies of -guess what- screw segments! The interior of the fuselage resembles a resin kit, it doesn't follow the angular shape of the exterior. So it'll be extremely difficult to carve the inside to paper thickness and install a tubular frame structure. The cowl, as someone truthfully said (Matt?) is better to be forgotten: unevenly thick, it lacks the characteristic extra engine bearings of the Fokker E.IV. I wonder if I could use a modified cowl of an airfix DRI for a replacement.... No, I better forget it! The wings have "fabric weave" texture, but don't worry, you'll have to sand them down to get rid of the exagerated rib detail (wich curiosly follows exactly the locations stated in the plans!) and the cross sections of the wings have a quite strange shape, just like the washout of the wingtips were maintained until the wing roots. Anyway, the parts are so thick that you can sand it straight. Struts, tail surfaces and the two (?) propellers are overly thick, altough the dimensions generally coincide with plans. Conclusion: if your level of masochism allows you and you have files and sandpaper without much use, the MAC kit can result in endless hours of fun, and eventually, you'll have a good model of the Fokker EIV. As I said before, I guess that MAC has done a good work casting the kits, just that the master pattern is not as good as it should be. Maybe later MAC can hire a better sculptor and we'll have more and better fokkers around! Sorry for the long tirade. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:12:24 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <003701bf73b7$b5f7f980$050356d1@default> I noticed Barry's (most welcome) plug for the Toko H-B D.I replacement part. What is wrong with the original that requires a resin replacement? TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:13:11 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <008001bf73b7$d17246c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Steve I think you can convert the original kit to another mark. Different radiators, fuselage, etc. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:15 AM Subject: sowhadImiss > I noticed Barry's (most welcome) plug for the Toko H-B D.I replacement part. > > What is wrong with the original that requires a resin replacement? > > TIA > sp > > E-mail smperry@mindspring.com > Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:20:34 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <200002101123.DAA11195@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:15:26 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > I noticed Barry's (most welcome) plug for the Toko H-B D.I replacement part. > > What is wrong with the original that requires a resin replacement? Nothing. This is a different type, the one with the "car radiator" in the front. I forget which specific type the Toko kit out of the box builds into, but it's not the same type as the one Barry provides. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:26:51 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <003f01bf73b9$ba83b140$050356d1@default> Thanks D: I was hoping that was the case. I'll find out more when I order the datafile. BUT..in case anybody knows offhand, which would be correct for Brumowski's plane, the one with the Sworl camo? I have a photo of him leaning on the wing. Kit or Rosemont? sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:31:05 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <00a001bf73ba$516a5e60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mmmmmhh... that's goes beyond my little knowledge. Maybe Barry himself can explain better. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:30 AM Subject: Re: sowhadImiss > Thanks D: > > I was hoping that was the case. I'll find out more when I order the > datafile. BUT..in case anybody knows offhand, which would be correct for > Brumowski's plane, the one with the Sworl camo? I have a photo of him > leaning on the wing. Kit or Rosemont? > > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:40:37 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <200002101143.DAA19313@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:30:34 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > I was hoping that was the case. I'll find out more when I order the > datafile. BUT..in case anybody knows offhand, which would be correct for > Brumowski's plane, the one with the Sworl camo? I have a photo of him > leaning on the wing. Kit or Rosemont? Kit. D.I 28.69 is the aircraft he's leaning against, according to the FMP book, and the kit builds the 28 series aircraft. The fuselage Barry provides is for the 65.7 series And sp, if you can, I would pick up the FMP book on the StarStrutter before the Datafile. A lot more "meat" to it, and it includes seven pages of color profiles. Granted, all D.I's were left natural (minus the one Brumowski is leaning on) so the only difference would be the serials and the personal markings. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:56:05 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <004e01bf73bd$cff02be0$050356d1@default> Thanks Matt: That poses a problem. The only solution being to order another D.I kit to go with the Rosemont part and build a 65 series too. ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:56:39 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <200002101159.DAA04028@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:59:40 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > That poses a problem. The only solution being to order another D.I kit to go > with the Rosemont part and build a 65 series too. ;-) Yup, that's always a problem. ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:04:21 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: sowhadImiss Message-ID: <005601bf73be$f7e4a300$050356d1@default> > Yup, that's always a problem. ;-) Not as big a one as getting the solution past SWHTPS. (She Who Holds The Purse Strings) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:45:14 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Ebay Alb C.V Message-ID: <001f01bf7570$285e0320$b40c3ccc@oemcomputer> Saw a new lot of Sanke cards on ebay last night - lots of different aircraft types, very early stuff like eindeckers and b types, also seaplanes. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: nieuport To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Ebay Alb C.V >check out his other auctions...much more interesting stuff and all big >scans too :) >-- >Mike Fletcher ___ ., >mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; >nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ >icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html >If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:11:12 +0200 From: Kari Lumppio To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Farman HF30 and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20000210141112.007134e4@frame.hut.fi> Hello everyone! I'm a new "face" here. Actually am not WWI enthusiast per se but keen Finnish Air Force and Estonian Air Force (amongst others) fan. As you may know one really can't avoid WWI planes if you are modelling the latter. Their Avro 504s soldiered on to early 30's for example. Now to my questions for you. The first flying machine in Estonian AF inventory was war booty Farman HF30 (taken by Finnish volunteers at Narva, Estonia, BTW). Did Farman HF30 have instrument panel? I have article and drawings (Mir Aviatsii) for HF 22 which do not show any. Is there any references to this type? Jane's reprint of 1919 World's aircraft hasn't any good info nor does the Shavrov's "Russian aircrats 1918-38"(IIRC) book. Omega makes a passable 1/72 resin model of HF30 but I would like to add some detailing. Would HF40 be any help for this or is that type too ignored in the reference literature? The second flying machine in Estonian Air Force was a captured Sopwith Strutter. Does anyone know when DUKS in Russia started their license manufacture of the Strutter? Or is the Estonian example made in UK? This is actually a color question. A British example would be PC10 but what about Russian one? I have heard about "Mamatov's laquer" (may be spelled differently in English) but don't know what color it is. In the 20's and early 30's Russian used dope named "Zashchitnii" which literally means protected, shielded (analoque to Protective Color = PC10???). What should I use for Russian Stutter? Is there experts about Russian Imperial/Bolshevist aviation paints? (Soviet colors in WW2 is whole another can of worms... ;=) ) Waiting eagerly what the response in this forum will be. Usually these kind of questions go unanswered in the other forums. Thanking in advance Kari Lumppio , Finland PS If anyone here is interested about Estonian WWI-era Type IV and Renault (17?) tanks there was published a superb book last year in Estonia. Paper, print and photo (lots of) quality is excellent. All info from primary sources - Eesti Riigiarhiiv (Estonian State Archive) - as there is no secondary sources! The book deals also all Estonian armored cars (as tanks/tankettes) period 1918-1940. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2134 **********************