WWI Digest 2127 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Passchendaele by "Lee Mensinger" 2) Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III/IIIa by a1b73869@telus.net 3) Re: Passchendaele by "Bob Pearson" 4) Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III/IIIa by "Craig Gavin" 5) Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III/IIIa by "Steven Schofield" 6) Re: Fokker D VI by Steve Cox 7) Re: Academic Help by "Craig Healey" 8) Aviatik (berg D1) by Mang521092@aol.com 9) Re: Passchendaele by "Lee Mensinger" 10) Passchendaele Halberstadt by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 11) Central Powers Geomeetric Camo, was Re: Aviatik D1 by skarver@banet.net 12) German units at Gallipoli by "=?iso-8859-9?B?QvxsZW50IFn9bG1hemVy?=" 13) AH Hex:Paint X-Refs? was: Re: Aviatik by skarver@banet.net 14) OTF Seminar. by "Bill Bacon" 15) Re: OTF Seminar. by Lyle Lamboley 16) Re: OTF Seminar. by Ernest Thomas 17) Re: RE: Eduard releases 1/72 and 1/748 by "David Calhoun" 18) Info on Clifton Cottrel, 91st Aero Sq. by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 19) Biplanes by "Lee Mensinger" 20) Re: Info on Clifton Cottrel, 91st Aero Sq. by "Bob Pearson" 21) RE: RE: Eduard releases 1/72 and 1/748 by Shane Weier 22) RE: JMGT Resin Kits by Shane Weier 23) RE: Central Powers Geomeetric Camo, was Re: Aviatik D1 by Shane Weier 24) Re: JMGT Resin Kits by Albatrosdv@aol.com 25) Re: JMGT Resin Kits by "Sandy Adam" 26) Re: Central Powers Geomeetric Camo, was Re: Aviatik D1 by skarver@banet.net 27) Re: JMGT Resin Kits by "DAVID BURKE" 28) A 1916 Draisine by skarver@banet.net 29) Re: OTF Seminar. by bucky@ptdprolog.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 14:31:26 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, "Lee Mensinger" Subject: Passchendaele Message-ID: <389B371E.37D2DD1D@wireweb.net> I would like to know more about the Passchendaele models I hear of it frequently but there is ery little "real" information Like where, when, how and prices. Is it a cult or secret society? How about someone spreading the words. What some accept as common knowledge may not be that common to everyone. Personally, I have never seen it advertised and I have been modeling for well over 65 years. Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:36:49 PST From: a1b73869@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III/IIIa Message-ID: <389b3861.203c.0@telus.net> >> Many pardons on the mix up about the Skybird I didnt notice the Skybird word before. Is the Fdh GIII still available form Skybirds. I thought he had stopped all production, or is this a case of this model might still be available. (Does anyone know where?) Not that I can afford the price in my pre April Tax poor mode anyway. But after April ;) Ray ================================================================= Internet service provided by telus.net http://www.telus.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 12:44:28 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Passchendaele Message-ID: <200002042046.MAA13644@mail.rapidnet.net> Passchendaele is list members John Cyganowski and Scott Scarborough. Last year the list was all agog over their Albatros D.II conversion for the Glencoe and Eduard kits. Internet Modeler ran articles on the D.II by Tom Cleaver as well as a D.I conversion by Robert Karr in the May 1999 issue. FSM and Windsock may also have featured it IIRC. Contact Cyg at janah@worldnet.att.net for more information. Bob ---------- >From: "Lee Mensinger" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Passchendaele >Date: Fri, 4 Feb, 2000, 12:33 PM > > I would like to know more about the Passchendaele models I hear of it > frequently but there is ery little "real" information Like where, when, > how and prices. Is it a cult or secret society? How about someone > spreading the words. > > What some accept as common knowledge may not be that common to > everyone. Personally, I have never seen it advertised and I have > been modeling for well over 65 years. Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 15:56:07 -0600 From: "Craig Gavin" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III/IIIa Message-ID: <200002042156.PAA03996@postoffice5.ipa.net> Ray - I bought my Fdh. G.II from Skybirds back in April,1997. Please note, its a G.II vs. the G.III/IIIa that Choroszy is producing. The G.II and G.III are similar but not the same. At any rate, my last purchase from Skybirds was just about a year ago, a Halberstadt D.II (beautiful kit). Then he was selling the following 1/72 kits: Halberstadt CL.II, Lloyd C.V; DFW C.V; Rumpler C.IV, Fdh. G.II; Albatros C.X, Aviatik C.III, Halberstadt D.II; Halberstadt D.III; and, Halberstadt D.V So at least a year ago, he was still in business. He never advertised or would sell through distributors. The only way anyone seemed to know about him and his kits were reviews in Windsock or if you went to the IPMS UK Nats. The last address I have is: Mr. Mike Eacock Skybirds Œ86 Orchard Cottage, Chetnole Sherborne, Dorset DT9 6PE England If you make contact, you might let the list know if he's indeed still selling kits, what's available, prices and ordering information. Cheers - Craig Gavin ---------- >From: a1b73869@telus.net >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III/IIIa >Date: Fri, Feb 4, 2000, 2:42 PM > >>> Many pardons on the mix up about the Skybird > > I didnt notice the Skybird word before. Is the Fdh GIII still available form > Skybirds. I thought he had stopped all production, or is this a case of this > model might still be available. (Does anyone know where?) > > Not that I can afford the price in my pre April Tax poor mode anyway. > > But after April ;) > > Ray > ================================================================= > Internet service provided by telus.net http://www.telus.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:03:17 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III/IIIa Message-ID: <000d01bf6f5b$a556cee0$caaa93c3@oemcomputer> > > If you can't find the SVA 5decals, I can send you mine. I only > have one kit, but I can scan these in to use later. LMK... > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > Showoff Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 22:15:37 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Fokker D VI Message-ID: > The Fokker D.VI came out after the Dr.I and before the D.VII. Weren't the DVI and DVII contemporary? AFAIK the prototypes of both competed at Aldershof in January 1918, and the DVI was ordered as insurance against supply problems of the DVII Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Matthew Bittner" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:15:35 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Fokker D VI > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:48:59 -0500 (EST), Graham Nash wrote: > >> Wasn't Germany's altercation with Russia over with before the D.VI came out? > > If you mean the WW1 side, than yes. If you mean post-war, when > the German's were "policing" their borders during the Civil War, > then no. The Fokker D.VI came out after the Dr.I and before the > D.VII. > > > Matt Bittner > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:26:29 -0000 From: "Craig Healey" To: Subject: Re: Academic Help Message-ID: <000c01bf6f5e$f8a90a60$4d9393c3@hal> >From Fighting Aircraft of WW1 and 2: Aircraft at the start of the war Aeroplanes airships Britain 113 6 France 138 4 Russia 224 11 Belgium 24 Germany 232 11 Austria-Hungary 36 1 Just because some countries (ie Russia) had lots of planes, doesn't mean they were in a flyable state. On April 9th 1917 (Bloody April) a comparison of British and the opposing German forces in the same sector gives: Britain Germany Total aircraft 754 264 Fighters 385 114 Losses in April Aircrew (killed and missing) 316 119 Aircraft 151 66 All the above figures are very rough, but give some idea of the scale. RFC monthly KIA figures for the Western Front were not more than 10 up to July 1916. September 1916 they topped 50 for the month, declined over the winter and reached 200 in April 1917. They dropped to less than 150 a month until August 1918. In September they passed 250. Source Cross and Cockade International vol30 No 4 Total Allied losses per year on the Western Front (KIA/all casualties) 1914 (6/28) 1915 (53/192) 1916 (293/703) 1917 (1195/2545) 1918 (1530/3526) Source The Sky Their Battlefield. Their is also a book called Airmen died in the Great War which lists British casualties. Regards Craig Healey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:38:23 EST From: Mang521092@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Aviatik (berg D1) Message-ID: Gang, Thanks to you all for the replies to my Berg D1 request. Thanks, and best regards, Mitch Inkster ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 17:44:38 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Passchendaele Message-ID: <389B6466.12BBF9DC@wireweb.net> I may have been away on my extended vacation at the time. I was un-subbed for almost 2 months. So I may have missed out. I heard the name dozens of times and Passendaele never comes up on any of my lists. thank you for the info I will gt with Cyg. and see what he says. we chat quite often. It is funny. I thought he had something to do with it. That clue came from an earlier message a couple months ago. Thanks Bob Bob Pearson wrote: > Passchendaele is list members John Cyganowski and Scott Scarborough. Last > year the list was all agog over their Albatros D.II conversion for the > Glencoe and Eduard kits. Internet Modeler ran articles on the D.II by Tom > Cleaver as well as a D.I conversion by Robert Karr in the May 1999 issue. > FSM and Windsock may also have featured it IIRC. > > Contact Cyg at janah@worldnet.att.net for more information. > > Bob > > ---------- > >From: "Lee Mensinger" > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: Passchendaele > >Date: Fri, 4 Feb, 2000, 12:33 PM > > > > > I would like to know more about the Passchendaele models I hear of it > > frequently but there is ery little "real" information Like where, when, > > how and prices. Is it a cult or secret society? How about someone > > spreading the words. > > > > What some accept as common knowledge may not be that common to > > everyone. Personally, I have never seen it advertised and I have > > been modeling for well over 65 years. Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:59:28 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Passchendaele Halberstadt Message-ID: <001101bf6f6b$e0ba1ae0$d938183f@cyrixp166> I got my metal parts proofs today. Nice. I should have proof decals any day now. I have 80 people coming for training next week so I wont be doing much. It wont be long now. Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 20:43:54 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Central Powers Geomeetric Camo, was Re: Aviatik D1 Message-ID: <389B805A.80E595F4@banet.net> Shane Weier wrote: > It's just little ol' nitpicker me.... > > > I did build the Toko kit straight out of the box. There are > > photos on my > > site (URL below) if you want to see what the loz looks like > > when applied. > > Usually called "hex" not "loz" on account of the coloured bits are > "hexagons" not "lozenges". > > Mind you, it could be worse. At least no-one is calling streaky dope "loz" > or Brumowski distribution "loz" or hand painted polygons "loz" or stepped > bands "loz" etc. so I only have to distinguish between *two* possibilities. Of course, there's a real problem with the term 'lozenge' for the German printed camouflage fabric since the geometric figures are not...lozenge that is. The term goes back to heraldic devices apparently: 1. (Her.) (a) A diamond-shaped figure usually with the upper and lower angles slightly acute, borne upon a shield or escutcheon. Cf. Fusil. (b) A form of the escutcheon used by women instead of the shield which is used by men. 2. A figure with four equal sides, having two acute and two obtuse angles; a rhomb. 3. Anything in the form of lozenge. The figures on the printed fabric are actually hexagonal. The venerable WW One aerohistorian Dan San Abbott has argued for the term 'irregular polygons.' I do not see why the term 'irregular hexagon' as distinct from the Austro-Hungarian 'regular hexagon,' where regular specifies a hexagon in which the angles are all equal, and the sides are also all equal, has not been adopted for its logical and descriptive consistency, but those are the vagaries of language. BTW, does anyone know what the printed fabric was called in contemporary German records? Regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 03:50:26 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-9?B?QvxsZW50IFn9bG1hemVy?=" To: Subject: German units at Gallipoli Message-ID: <013101bf6f7b$61076b80$4c0d8ec3@yilmazer> Dear List Members, I am looking for detailed information on the Order of Battle for the German and Austro-Hungarian units that served at Gallipoli (Dardanelles) during WWI. I would also appreciate information on the full title of the German officers listed below, while they served at the Gallipoli Front. Marshal von der Goltz General (Admiral) von Usedom General (Admiral) Merten General Weber Colonel Wehrle Colonel Grossmann Colonel (Navy or Marines) Pier Best regards to all, Bulent Yilmazer Ankara - TURKEY yilmazer@tr-net.net.tr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 20:49:53 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: AH Hex:Paint X-Refs? was: Re: Aviatik Message-ID: <389B81C1.65A3E82A@banet.net> Good evening-- Martin Speed voiced the concern of a number of other Berg modlers, writing: > [snip] > Now I'm not too sure about the accuracy of those decals either! Can anyone suggest model paint cross-references for the A-H hexagon camo for those who might consider replicating the original method of application? TIA to alll & regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:36:31 -0600 From: "Bill Bacon" To: "wwi list" Subject: OTF Seminar. Message-ID: <000f01bf6f8a$31a91dc0$413c32cf@tcac.net> Good Friends, How many are planning to attend the OTF Seminar? Cheers, Bill B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:49:26 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OTF Seminar. Message-ID: <20000204.224927.-197793.0.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> I'll be there--I'm in Tampa, so no excuses from me on traveling too far. I can't wait. Lyle On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:42:01 -0500 (EST) "Bill Bacon" writes: > Good Friends, > > How many are planning to attend the OTF Seminar? > > Cheers, > > Bill B. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 1980 21:59:04 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OTF Seminar. Message-ID: <12D42407.8CACE59D@bellsouth.net> Bill Bacon wrote: > Good Friends, > > How many are planning to attend the OTF Seminar? > I hope to be there. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:36:42 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: RE: Eduard releases 1/72 and 1/748 Message-ID: <006601bf713e$1521a220$500c3ccc@oemcomputer> Is the Lone Star SPAD 7 still available? This was a vac kit that had the best photoetched set I've ever seen - everything from the ammo belt rewind drum to the small reinforcement plates on the wings - I bought this photoetched set a few years ago and did up the Blue Max kit nice - got a Hisso from the Lindberg SE5a and as much detail as I could add. With only 1500 kits produced, there can't be many left. Dave Calhoun-----Original Message----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, February 04, 2000 7:46 AM Subject: Re: RE: Eduard releases 1/72 and 1/748 >On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:41:45 -0500 (EST), Peter Leonard wrote: > >> All of the above;) It's still available, or at least still advertised as >> available which isn't necessarily the same thing, but it's not the most >> buildable kit ever made. Mine had one fuselage half wafer thin, the other >> thick enough to stop a .45 at twenty five yards, and enough flash on the >> wings to make vacform. I'm not usually one to moan about flash, but this was >> thick. His later stuff is much better, but let's not forget that Chris >> Gannon sprang forth fully formed from Merlin and IMO it shows in some of the >> early kits. Of course mine is a fairly late pop (#800 and something on the >> certificate) but those still on the shelves are probably later. If you want >> a SPAD 7 in this scale there is no alternative and it can be done just like >> anything else can, but if you just want a SPAD stick with DML. > > There is an alternative, if you don't mind spending >the bucks. JMGT's resin, and AJP Maquette's new brass and >"tissue" example. > >Gads...a 1/72nd scaler telling you Braille Scalers about your own >kits... ;-) > > >Matt Bittner >http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm >http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 08:53:08 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Info on Clifton Cottrel, 91st Aero Sq. Message-ID: <389C5574.62E5@ricochet.net> Anyone have any info on this lucky man from San Jose who piloted observation planes (DH-4s or Salmsons) and survived being shot down 3 times? Noticed his photo while doing some work-related research lately... Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 23:43:01 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Biplanes Message-ID: <389BB865.AC13644E@wireweb.net> Maybe off topic. I am not all that sure. I didn't look at it. TODAY'S SCREEN SAVER Biplanes Screen Saver Volume 1 Watch classic prop aircraft zoom around http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?20863:2259053 Maybe some one would like this. From ZDNet Downloads. Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 22:13:01 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Info on Clifton Cottrel, 91st Aero Sq. Message-ID: <200002050617.WAA31394@mail.rapidnet.net> Not sure if he is still on the list or not, but IIRC Jim Elkins was researching the 91st Bob ---------- >From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Info on Clifton Cottrel, 91st Aero Sq. >Date: Fri, 4 Feb, 2000, 9:03 PM > > Anyone have any info on this lucky man from San Jose who piloted > observation planes (DH-4s or Salmsons) and survived being shot down 3 > times? Noticed his photo while doing some work-related research > lately... > > Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:32:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: RE: Eduard releases 1/72 and 1/748 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CA1@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lance, > Shane laments: > >> "Mind you, a 1/48 SPAD 7 is #1 on my wish list" > > What's wrong with the Blue Max kit... too hard to find? Or > has it got problems that I haven't noticed? > I have the BM SPAD 7 which is perfectly acceptable but at about A$50 - direct from Chris Gannon, if he has any left - it's twice the price of the Eduards and not nearly as fine as they'd likely be. I'd like to build several to use some of the interesting French markings, but not at $50 a pop. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:34:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: JMGT Resin Kits Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CA2@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lance says: > So what is Shane whingeing about? > Just another whinging colonial Guvnor ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:47:54 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Central Powers Geomeetric Camo, was Re: Aviatik D1 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CA3@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Stef, > Of course, there's a real problem with the term 'lozenge' for > the German > printed camouflage fabric since the geometric figures are > not...lozenge that is.(snip lotsa stuff) All that aside, I make a plea for the retention of common useage, rather than academic dribble. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 03:45:28 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: JMGT Resin Kits Message-ID: In a message dated 00-02-05 02:36:34 EST, you write: << whingeing >> What is this word? Can't you people learn to spell "whine" and "whining"?? :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:48:51 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re: JMGT Resin Kits Message-ID: <001101bf6fc6$9a7aa580$2ae8b094@sandyada> >And it's BIG bucks too. A jumbo chocolate chip cookie for the first listee >to show ten differences between the BM and JMTG kits, apart from the >resin/plastic of course. INCOMING!!! JMGT Thin thin thin thin Wings, incredible close fit of parts, fantastic jewel-like fine detailing, no flash (as in NO flash), extensive exquisite PE on adhesive backing sheet (you should see the radiator!), vacform windshield, no turtledeck seam to destroy detail on sanding, Includes sketches of cockpits from several angles, lots of detail notes and sketches, model looks fantastic (I'm scared to start building it in case I don't do it justice!) You are Colly Kibber and I claim my five pounds! Seriously though, the three JMGT kits I have (SPAD, Hanriot and Pfalz E-I) are amongst the most beautifully produced kits I have ever seen. I am currently building the E-I and it is very rewarding. Expensive, yes, but I got mine at half price in Hannant's winter sales so you *can* get them cheaper. Somebody, some time back vented a tirade against the quality of JMGT - I just don't understand this - IMHO you don't get any better (except maybe the SPAD decals are a bit too matte for me and may be brittle when I eventually use them). BM are pretty good value for money I think. Although the SPAD is older, it builds into a nice little model once you've thinned the wings down - and as you'll see from the two of them in Al's Models Gallery http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Adam/ conversion of the DML kit to a 7 is quite feasible. (Its not 100% accurate I know, but then I slammed it in about four days tops!) If you ever see a JMGT SPAD in a sale or at a swap - grab it! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 09:06:38 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Central Powers Geomeetric Camo, was Re: Aviatik D1 Message-ID: <389C2E6E.21BEA56F@banet.net> Shane Weier wrote: > All that aside, I make a plea for the retention of common useage, rather > than academic dribble. But I thought I'd read somewhere that you were the 'unreconstructed pedant'? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:34:12 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: JMGT Resin Kits Message-ID: <001801bf6fe6$4310d100$a281aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Uh-uh Tommy me boy, Whinging is a combonation of 'whine' and 'cringe'. It describes my reaction at coming across poorly-molded limited-run kits and liberal politicians. Me off to Atlanta for contest. Wishing me luck. DB -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, February 05, 2000 2:47 AM Subject: Re: JMGT Resin Kits >In a message dated 00-02-05 02:36:34 EST, you write: > ><< whingeing >> > >What is this word? Can't you people learn to spell "whine" and "whining"?? >:-) > >Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 09:56:28 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: A 1916 Draisine Message-ID: <389C3A1C.50815C8C@banet.net> --------------563E848B1CC97DC3851E624C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those with of the land vehicle persuasion, the link below will take you to pictures of Resicast's draisine version of the Ford T as used by the British during the battle of the Somme to carry ammo and other goods towards the front lines Resicast sprl:Page 2 Initial link provided by Hyperscale. 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Stef --------------563E848B1CC97DC3851E624C-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 09:59:24 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OTF Seminar. Message-ID: <389C3ACC.56D53F68@ptdprolog.net> Bill Sent my money in a week or so ago. I'm just waiting for the info on where to stay. I'll probably fly down on Thursday. Look forward to seeing everyone who can make it. We had a lot of fun last time in Arizona! Mike Muth Bill Bacon wrote: > Good Friends, > > How many are planning to attend the OTF Seminar? > > Cheers, > > Bill B. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2127 **********************