WWI Digest 2124 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Pegasus Ansaldo SVA 5 by "Peter Leonard" 2) Re: Hippo by "Peter Leonard" 3) Re: Junkers aircraft by REwing@aol.com 4) Re: another crappy ww1 site... by "Peter Leonard" 5) Re: another crappy ww1 site... by Albatrosdv@aol.com 6) Re: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. by "Bill Bacon" 7) Hope to come back soon by "MARINA GALLO" 8) DFW CV (Aviatik colours) by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 9) Re: Pischoff by "Len Smith" 10) Re: Hello by "Bill Bacon" 11) RE: another crappy ww1 site... by "dfernet0" 12) RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert by "dfernet0" 13) Re: questions about Eduard Albatros kit by "Matt Bailey" 14) Re: questions about Eduard Albatros kit by "Lance Krieg" 15) Re: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert by "DAVID BURKE" 16) OT Armor Question by "DAVID BURKE" 17) Off Topic Posts by Allan Wright 18) Re: OT Armor Question by Witold Kozakiewicz 19) Re: Site Additions and Off Topic Posts by "Peter Leonard" 20) I am back ! by "Alberto Casirati" 21) Conversion job by Jim Landon 22) Your first vacuform kit by Jim Landon 23) Re: OT Armor Question by PolTexCW@aol.com 24) Re: I am back ! by "Lance Krieg" 25) 帮你节省60%的电话费, 请使用 IP 电话卡 ! by "ip" 26) Re: Your first vacuform kit by "Michael Kendix" 27) RE: Fokker D VI by "Graham Nash" 28) RE: Fokker D VI by "Matthew Bittner" 29) RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert by Shane Weier 30) Re: Pischoff by nieuport ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 06:14:59 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pegasus Ansaldo SVA 5 Message-ID: <20000203061500.95552.qmail@hotmail.com> Craig, they do but on a very ad hoc basis depending on what's available. They only ever have one print run and are in the habit of selling the surplus at shows and so on. It's the same with white metal and I always make a point of stocking up on both at the Nats. Drop them an e-mail, if they've got them they'll get some to you I feel sure. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Craig Gavin" Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Pegasus Ansaldo SVA 5 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:40:38 -0500 (EST) Does anybody know whether Pegasus sells its kit decals seperately? Or were I might get a replacement set for their Ansaldo SVA 5? Somewhere in one of our moves I've lost mine. TIA - Craig Gavin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 06:38:03 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hippo Message-ID: <20000203063803.52485.qmail@hotmail.com> Ray..."Flashback did produce the other model Hippo had which was the berg btw, so perhaps the Macchi is next up." Yes it is Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:47:53 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Junkers aircraft Message-ID: <8e.c4e9dc.25ca7e99@aol.com> Thanks, Mack, for mentioning this site to all of us. I'll definitely be spending more time there. Cool planes!! -Rick- << Anyone with an interest in Junkers aircraft might want to look at the following site: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hzoe/ju_airc2.htm#j1 Mack >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 07:09:50 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <20000203070950.82800.qmail@hotmail.com> Has anyone access to an English-Argentine/Argentine-English dictionary? The word "crappy" obviously has a completely different meaning down in tango central ;) Well done Diego. Maybe we should all set up our own web ring. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:36:45 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <4e.13c921b.25ca8a0d@aol.com> In a message dated 00-02-03 02:35:08 EST, you write: << Maybe we should all set up our own web ring. >> Not a bad idea - anybody know how to set up the software? Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:46:40 -0600 From: "Bill Bacon" To: Subject: Re: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. Message-ID: <008c01bf6e1a$cf06d600$413c32cf@tcac.net> Welcome back Oh exalted one. We have missed you. Hope you, sherry and the little one are doing well. Hopefully, by now you both can get a full night's sleep. Cheers, Bill B. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:33 PM Subject: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. > Greetings gents & ladies, > > > > Riordan > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:57:44 +0100 From: "MARINA GALLO" To: Subject: Hope to come back soon Message-ID: <20000203085329.69fb7ed4d69411d3b080009027b205ed.in@cs.pccom.it> Hello everybody ! Just a few lines to tell you that I am experiencing some difficulties in getting my e-mail software running properly. This message was sent by a different address, which is not mine. I do hope difficulties will be definitely overcome soon. in the meantime, happy modelling ! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:22:29 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: DFW CV (Aviatik colours) Message-ID: <200002030822.AAA27544@smtpout.telus.net> I've been spending a bit of time researching the DFW CV I am building, its now at the point ready to paint and I would like to get it close to looking as the original did (Dicta Ira rules first though). I have built it as an Aviatik built CV since I noticed they had side mounted radiators which I wanted to model, but they were rectangular in shape. As opposed to the others that were either half hexagons (are these what have been referred to as Hazemat) or half rounded in shape, these seemed easier to scratchbuild to me at least and since they survived my attempts to butcher them I think I was correct. Anyway the datafile for the DFW is somewhat cryptic on colour schemes. But for Aviatik it seems that a dirty green mottle was often used. This seems to be the case on the aircraft I am trying to model. DFW CV 5926/16 of Fl.Abt 48b. This is where I start to run into problems, from looking at the picture in the datafile it looks almost a solid colour, not mottled or if it was it must have been very heavy. Does anyone know how the mottling was done for this type? What was the base colour?, was that the green? Was the mottling all over the upper surfaces of the wings too? Am I barking up a wrong tree (likely very likely) and the aircraft was one solid colour as it appears to be. For any who have the datafile the aircraft in question is Photo #60 which shows it crashed and upside down. Any help that you guys and ladies ;) can offer would be very much appreciated. So far I have looked at that one picture off and on for days, in fact its starting to send me round the bend;) Ray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:27:14 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Pischoff Message-ID: <013601bf6e20$93a5f900$4a857ed4@mesh> Mike, > > I have updated my site again, adding more British and French subjects, > plus even a Russian aircraft (a Sikorsky) but I have a few drawings of > machines I am not sure what to do with - anyone know what country > Pischoff came from? I have a drawings of an obscure and very awkward > machine built by him and I wasn't sure if he was German or Russian. Neither, he was French, address Etablissements Autoplan, 4 rue Beranger, Boulogne sur Seine. That is from the 1913 Janes, he may have moved since. :-) He probably co-operated with other designers as also listed is Pischoff-Werner and Pischoff- Koechlin (in 1909 Janes). Scans of photos (small), drawings (weak) and details (sparse) available if required. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:08:44 -0600 From: "Bill Bacon" To: Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <001f01bf6e15$828e5dc0$413c32cf@tcac.net> Ken, Welcome to the zoo. Lots of fun, lots of info and the world's greatest bunch of people. Cheers, Bill B. ----- Original Message ----- From: ZELNICK, KENNETH T To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 12:45 PM Subject: Hello > Hello, > > I stumbled onto this group a couple of years ago while searching for WWI > airplanes. For the past several months I have been reading the posted > digests, and finally decided to join. I am slightly older than the list > average (46), and probably fall more into the category of "kit assembler" > than "modeler", although I have learned a lot from reading the proceedings > here. I started rigging with HSP, but am now trying 34 ga. beading wire, > heated in a flame to straighten. This seems to work quite well, and is > thinner and more uniform than the HSP I have used. I model primarily in > 1/48 because that's what I started with, and I can't see the little pieces > of 1/72 as well as I might have when I was younger. > > I was interested in the recent thread concerning first and first OT model. > The first model I remember building on my own was a slightly ot Aurora > Boeing P12-E when I was around 7 or 8. I don't remember my first OT, except > that it would have also been Aurora, and probably either the SPAD, Camel, or > DR-1. > > I'll be in digest mode because I'm at work. In order to check my e-mail at > home, I have to wrestle my son away from the computer, and he outweighs me. > > Sorry about the long post, and thank you for your time. > > Ken Zelnick, Russellville, Arkansas > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 07:53:04 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <00c101bf6e34$d92b1fa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mike This is what I tought when I saw it. And looked for any identification plate or something. Nothing. Not a marking nor a number nor a letter of any type in the entire darn chunk of metal. When I asked to an airman cadet a few steps away -you know my story- he was clueless. Thanks for the other replies about the unidentified items! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: nieuport To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:35 AM Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... > The unidentified vee type engine is a Hispano-Suiza of some sort > > I have updated my site again, adding more British and French subjects, > plus even a Russian aircraft (a Sikorsky) but I have a few drawings of > machines I am not sure what to do with - anyone know what country > Pischoff came from? I have a drawings of an obscure and very awkward > machine built by him and I wasn't sure if he was German or Russian. More > German and American stuff is on its way, and I even have a drawing of > the 1920 Rumpler automobile (both convertable and sedan) to be scanned > in. > -- > Mike Fletcher ___ ., > mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; > nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ > icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html > If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:18:13 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <010f01bf6e38$5c27cf40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas > "The Crossbow" (and how's this for a sub-title) > Medieval and Modern, Military and Sporting > It's Construction, History, & Management > with a treatise on The Balista and Catapult of the Ancients > and an appendix on The Catapult, Balista, & the Turkish Bow > > Any takers? > E. In fact, crossbows and some types of catapults and low-tech siege machines were used in the trenches during WW1. However, the corpses thrown over the people came with its own flaming airplanes. That's progress, I think. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 06:03:38 -0800 From: "Matt Bailey" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: questions about Eduard Albatros kit Message-ID: Hi Lee, Concerning rigging your Albatros - in my humble opinion, I would suggest that you do what ever you feel the most comfortable with. When I rigged mine, I attached my wheel/strut assembly before rigging, and in one clumsy moment I knocked the assembly off again. Luckily my rage was under control and the rest of the model survived. Matt -- On Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:49:47 Lee Rouse wrote: > >Also, I'm inclined to do the rigging before I assembly and attach the >wheel/wheel strut assembly. Any suggestions there? > >Thanks, > >Lee Rouse > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 08:48:32 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: questions about Eduard Albatros kit Message-ID: Lee asks: " Any suggestions as to just what this is and how to fabricate it?" As you surmised, it is the radiator piping that takes the heated water to the radiator and returns cooling water through the engine. Someone has already suggested a couple of useful references to see where these terminate. "Also, I'm inclined to do the rigging before I assembly and attach the wheel/wheel strut assembly. Any suggestions there?" That's the way I'd do it... no point in knocking the wheels off while you necessarily manipulate the model in the course of rigging. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:39:43 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <005201bf6e5c$eb361560$9393aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Aha, I see. Maybe it would - or we could bind the offenders up in loz fabric and flig 'em from a catapult and tell everyone that they're Albatri who have suffered structural wing failure! Have a happy! DB -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:48 PM Subject: RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert >DB > > >> Wait - you blaming me for this one? Check your sources bud! >> > >Hell no, just wondering if the big bow would be useful on the list. > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. >E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:41:32 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: OT Armor Question Message-ID: <005801bf6e5e$7629df20$9393aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Y'all, I picked up that nifty Char-Miltrailleur kit, and was looking for references - or a Polish translator. Any help? DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:04:42 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Off Topic Posts Message-ID: <200002031604.LAA00500@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Gentlemen, Please make every effort to keep off topic discussions to a minimum. Initial requests should ask to bring responses off list. Thanks bunches for your help! -Allan P.S. 2 new sets of model images added to the website today - check out the news page for more info. =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 17:11:37 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT Armor Question Message-ID: <3899A8B9.233E4BD5@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> What do you need. I can try to translate. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 16:25:14 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Site Additions and Off Topic Posts Message-ID: <20000203162514.90996.qmail@hotmail.com> >>P.S. 2 new sets of model images added to the website today - check out the >>news page for more info.<< Both well worth a look. M鈘ten's W4 is thoughtfuly displayed, and I especially like the way Mike Kendix is photographing his models lately. The Nieuport and the Farman look great Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:01:10 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: I am back ! 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Uncle Sniffy -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Steve Cox Sent: 01 February 2000 22:34 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Fokker D VI Shane, It's a colour profile. I have no photographs of DVI's that definitely show a non-lozenge scheme. Munson is also the only reference I have that quotes use on the Russian front. > Dicta Ira applies of course, but ...... If it's real, I'll paint mine that > way. Your guess is as good as mine. Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Shane Weier > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:15:17 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Fokker D VI > > Steve, > > >> There is a picture in Munson's 'Fighters 1914-19' > > or is it a ..."colour profile in Munson's ...." > >> showing a DVI used on the >> Russian front, finished in green/purple, blue underneath. > > Is there a photo in Munson, or just a profile. > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:09:54 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Fokker D VI Message-ID: <200002032011.OAA18792@mail1.neonramp.com> On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:48:59 -0500 (EST), Graham Nash wrote: > Wasn't Germany's altercation with Russia over with before the D.VI came out? If you mean the WW1 side, than yes. If you mean post-war, when the German's were "policing" their borders during the Civil War, then no. The Fokker D.VI came out after the Dr.I and before the D.VII. Matt Bittner http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:46:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C96@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > Aha, I see. Maybe it would - or we could bind the offenders up in loz > fabric and flig 'em from a catapult and tell everyone that > they're Albatri > who have suffered structural wing failure! > Visions of Baldrick standing over a 5 colour loz mummified modeller aimed at the Hindenburg line and obsequiously asking Blackadder "Shoot 'im orf now Suh? Or should we load *two* of these dinky little 72 jobs at once?" Shane (diorama time !!!!) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 17:45:21 -0500 From: nieuport To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pischoff Message-ID: <389A0501.587C2375@home.com> Well I can add a reasonable looking drawing of an utterly hopeless (pre-war) design then. Len Smith wrote: > > Mike, > > > > I have updated my site again, adding more British and French subjects, > > plus even a Russian aircraft (a Sikorsky) but I have a few drawings of > > machines I am not sure what to do with - anyone know what country > > Pischoff came from? I have a drawings of an obscure and very awkward > > machine built by him and I wasn't sure if he was German or Russian. > > Neither, he was French, address Etablissements Autoplan, 4 rue Beranger, > Boulogne sur Seine. That is from the 1913 Janes, he may have moved since. > :-) He probably co-operated with other designers as also listed is > Pischoff-Werner and Pischoff- Koechlin (in 1909 Janes). Scans of photos > (small), drawings (weak) and details (sparse) available if required. > > Regards Len. > > lensmith@clara.net > http://home.clara.net/lensmith -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2124 **********************