WWI Digest 2123 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Hello by Pedro e Francisca 2) Re: questions about Eduard Albatros kit by "DAVID BURKE" 3) Re: major ot VCR alert by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Re: Hello by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Re: major ot VCR alert by a1b73869@telus.net 6) Fokker Dr.I by Lyle Lamboley 7) Re: major ot VCR alert by Ernest Thomas 8) Re: another crappy ww1 site... by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 9) Re: major ot VCR alert by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: Hippo by "Courtney Allen" 11) Re: Hello by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: major ot VCR alert by Lyle Lamboley 13) Re: major ot VCR alert by PolTexCW@aol.com 14) Re: another crappy ww1 site... by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: major ot VCR alert by KarrArt@aol.com 16) The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert by Ernest Thomas 17) The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 18) RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert by Shane Weier 19) Re: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert by "DAVID BURKE" 20) RE: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. by Shane Weier 21) RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert by Shane Weier 22) Re: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. by "Richard Eaton" 23) Re: another crappy ww1 site... by nieuport 24) Re: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: another crappy ww1 site... by nieuport 26) RE: another crappy ww1 site... by Shane Weier 27) Re: another crappy ww1 site... by Ernest Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 22:30:15 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <3898AFF6.59BB0DA4@mail.telepac.pt> "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" wrote: > Hello, > > I stumbled onto this group a couple of years ago while searching for WWI > airplanes. Oh oh....and you never been the same ever since, right? Great to see another lurker delurk. Welcome Ken. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:55:40 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: questions about Eduard Albatros kit Message-ID: <00c301bf6dd1$d3f4ee20$259aaec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Lee, Yes, that is a most obvious area where Eduard screwed up. However, it is most easy to fix. Really, there are two pipes there. I use fine solder wire, available from either hobby, hardware, or electronic supply stores. Consult either Squadron's 'Albatros Fighters in Action', or a Windsock book to show shape and location. Also, if you look at the Photo Gallery, I have pics of my Albatros D.III and D.V (it's under Dave Burke). Enjoy! DB -----Original Message----- From: Lee Rouse To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: questions about Eduard Albatros kit >Not having any documentation other than what's in the kit instructions, I am >wondering about what appears to be (radiator?) piping which runs from the >engine into the underside of the upper wing. It's not apparent from the kit >instructions or box art just where the attachment points areor what the >function of this is. There is no kit part to match. Any suggestions as to >just what this is and how to fabricate it? > >Also, I'm inclined to do the rigging before I assembly and attach the >wheel/wheel strut assembly. Any suggestions there? > >Thanks, > >Lee Rouse > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:00:10 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <00c401bf6dd1$d4d6c2a0$259aaec7@dora9sprynet.com> You guys are worried about horse corpses, how about being hit by flying bodies of dead plague victims? What a great show! However, calling it 'The atomic bomb of the 13th Century' was going a LITTLE too far in my opinion. DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:03:50 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <00c501bf6dd1$d5a02d20$259aaec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Ken! Welcome to one of the best sites on the Web! More fun than a single computer should be allowed to have! Kit assemblers, modelers, scholars - it's a wide-ranging eclectic group and tolerant too - they allow me to stick around! Later, and Wilkommen! DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:35:36 PST From: a1b73869@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <3898cd58.6b39.0@telus.net> David, That would be the earliest forms of germ warfare. (Unfortunately I am only half joking) >You guys are worried about horse corpses, how about being hit by flying >bodies of dead plague victims? > >What a great show! However, calling it 'The atomic bomb of the 13th >Century' was going a LITTLE too far in my opinion. > > >DB > > ================================================================= Internet service provided by telus.net http://www.telus.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:50:57 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Fokker Dr.I Message-ID: <20000202.205058.-242397.0.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> Hello all, I just found a small site that has some photos of a replica Dr.I in lozenge fabric. It may not be authentic, but it has a certain "Blue Max" look to it, of course. The full-scale guys can get away with all kinds of stuff... http://kiwiaircraftimages.simplenet.com/dr1.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 1980 20:00:47 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <12DA9FCD.FCC84622@bellsouth.net> Lyle Lamboley wrote: > The idea of > a horse being sent in to a fort shows just how far back psychological > warfare goes. Just being nit-picky, but flinging dead animals of any type would have been biological warfare. And I quote from the Book of Armaments; (chapter LIII, pg 272,prgh.1) "at his ineffectual seigeof Carolstein in 1422, Coribut caused the bodies of his soldiers whom the beseiged had killed to be thrown into the town, in addition to 2,000 cartloads of manure. A great number of the defenders fell victim to the fever which resulted from the stench, and the remainder were only saved from death by the skill of a rich apothecary who circulated in Carolstein remedies against the poison which infected the town". However, projectiles didn't necessarily have to be dead to be flunge... Froissart tells us that at the seige of Auberoche, an emissary who came to treat for terms was seized and shot back into the town. "To make it more serious, they took the varlet and hung the letters around his neck and instantly placed him in the sling of an engine and then shot him back into Auberoche. The varlet arrived dead before the knights who were there and who were much astonished and discomfited when they saw him arrive." ( I had brother Meynard look those up for me.) Here endeth the lesson. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:20:09 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <200002030320.TAA03333@smtpout.telus.net> Hey Diego, I kept looking for the crappy part on that web site but I couldn't find it. Am I missing something here ;). Oh and that small white ot car in the Artillery picture are you sure you got the colour correct shouldn't it be shiny cdl not white. All joking aside that's a very nice set of pages. The cartoons give the pages a very different and unique look. Ray On 2 Feb 00, at 6:06, dfernet0 wrote: > Hi friends! > After joining this little merry band of lunatics and having learned so > many useful and interesting things, I wanted to do something to share > the references I gathered about the artifacts of WW1 from the point of > view of a modeller. Therefore, I built a makeshift web site containing > some of the interesting images that I had in my library and photo > albums, knowing that some of you might get that extra bit of help from > them. That's why, in the first place, I made this site entirely on > english language. The site design isn't too fancy. I aimed for clarity > and easyness of navigation, avoiding those things that blink, rotate > or bounce seen in many websites. Building it was a slow and sometimes > funny proccess where I frequently stumped with unsuspected > mishappenings (I learned in the hard way where the letter "x" can > carry you) but now I fell pretty sure that all the links and all the > already existing pages connect. There's Blèriots, there's Fokkers, > there's AVROs, there's SVAs and cannons and cars and many other things > for all the tastes. Some of the pages are still in construction and > some will appear in due time, as Breguets, Farmans, Aviatiks, > Capronis, Fiats, rare birds and my own sketches of airplane cockpits. > For the detectives on the list -and on the web-, I included a handful > of pictures that I was unable to positively identify, so your good eye > and reference libraries can have a good time trying to descipher > what's about there. One of the most important, if not the most, of the > pages is the "links" where the reasons to include the URL were guided > for the excellence of the contents but mainly because I think of the > other pages creators as good friends, even if we never had the > opportunity of shaking hands. Of course, as the rest of the site, this > section will grow in time, and all that have been forgotten, please > accept my excuses until I can add you. Well, enough of blah blah blah! > go check http://ww1stuff.freeservers.com/ and feel free to make > comments, addenda, criticisms (be generous, I'm a begginer on this) > and I hope that you have a good time while browsing it. Regards D. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:22:44 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <001801bf6df6$23657fa0$3099aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Yup, That's what I meant. It was common for a while to launch plague victims at one's enemy. Probably was a bitch for the air-mail industry's PR at the time, eh? DB -----Original Message----- From: a1b73869@telus.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 6:36 PM Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert >David, > That would be the earliest forms of germ warfare. (Unfortunately I am only >half joking) > >>You guys are worried about horse corpses, how about being hit by flying >>bodies of dead plague victims? >> >>What a great show! However, calling it 'The atomic bomb of the 13th >>Century' was going a LITTLE too far in my opinion. >> >> >>DB >> >> >================================================================= >Internet service provided by telus.net http://www.telus.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:24:31 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Hippo Message-ID: <006c01bf6df6$328320a0$4644480c@courtney> Dave To add to the other comments. The Hippo kit is resin and is no longer available. The Eduards' kit is injection molded and will be released sometime early this year. It can be advanced ordered from Hannants in London www.hannants.co.uk Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: Hippo > I recently saw in an old windsock or somewhere a Macchi flying boat m5 in > 1/48 scale made in resin by Hippo. I would be interested in getting this > kit, but have never heard of Hippo. Is this still available? Who sells it? > Thanks, > Dave Calhoun > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:31:35 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <76.16c9ebd.25ca5097@aol.com> Welcome Ken and Marten(haven't figured out how to type the "a" with a circle overhead, yet)..................jeez, about the only two places in this world I've really been are Arkansas and Sweden.....a strange small world! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:28:46 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <20000202.222847.-242397.1.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> Dear Ernest, Thank you for the corrections to my statement. It shows that one shouldn't be writing letters at 6 a.m. I've known since I was a kid that dead stuff did the work where boulders and arrows and blockades failed back in the "goode olde days." My compliments to your scholar brother! Are you as fortunate as he to have such a library? Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:05:23 EST From: PolTexCW@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <4d.1325695.25ca5883@aol.com> In a message dated 2/2/0 11:32:39 PM, dora9@sprynet.com writes: <> Exactly, and precisely why the USAAC only transported mail for so brief a period. John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:15:50 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: In a message dated 2/2/00 9:46:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << As others have echoed: More 'Tunes! >> and another echo for more toons!....also like the "what is it?" section. After I've etherized the rest of the family so they stay away from the computer, I'm going to give your site a deeper look. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:15:51 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <18.bfbfd7.25ca5af7@aol.com> In a message dated 2/1/00 11:11:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, REwing@aol.com writes: << Saw this episode myself. My wife couldn't/wouldn't/didn't understand my Whooping it up when they let 'er rip!! >> Mine couldn't understand what I was jabbering about- she was off doing chores or something when the show was on, and she found me jumping up and down cheering when the French guy finally got a hit...it started me wondering what it would look like if a Camel or D.VII happened to have a mid-air with one of these flung missiles...just a thought. RK (starting to range in on the guy down the block who plays his stereo too loud....let's see, how long should that throwing arm be?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 1980 22:21:02 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <12DAC0AE.3D02BF38@bellsouth.net> Lyle Lamboley wrote: > Dear Ernest, > Thank you for the corrections to my statement. You're welcome. > My compliments to your scholar brother! > Are you as fortunate as he to have such a library? He and I are one in the same, so yes, I am as fortunate as he to have such a library. And the Book of Armaments, in this case, was; "The Crossbow" (and how's this for a sub-title) Medieval and Modern, Military and Sporting It's Construction, History, & Management with a treatise on The Balista and Catapult of the Ancients and an appendix on The Catapult, Balista, & the Turkish Bow By Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey, Bt. pub.1903, 9th impression 1990 Holland Press, London ISBN 0-946323-14-3 A very good book too! You could even use it to build your own repro of a 15th century military crossbow with a 1200lb (that's right, TWELVE HUNDRED) draw wt. Pierce plate armor at 300yds. Any takers? E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 08:24:41 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. Message-ID: <3899ABC9.418B@ricochet.net> Greetings gents & ladies, Just getting over a bout of Cold War fever; experienced a temporary strange love for atom bombers. Enough about my heresies-I'm here to tell you, brothers & sisters, that I'm keeping the faith once again. Got inspired while reading Fredette's "The Sky on Fire" and found myself - Lord help me - cutting and filing on the Rareplanes Gotha again. I've never built a vac before... I noticed a few things that may be of interest. First of all, I'm fairly confident that the 'RG' (my initials) G.IV (photo #40, pg. 19 of the DF special) was 406/16, as I've accounted for nearly all of the other machines in that production run in photos/refs. Also, the baby Swiss Army knife makes a pretty good tool for cutting out vacs - blade is thick enough so it is sort of 'self-guiding'-cuts about 1/32 from the egde of the parts. Don't know how the edge will hold up, though. I was surprised to find that the Rareplanes vac *appears* to be a bit more accurate in some ways than the esteemed Mr. Stair's drawings. The curving lower-front panels of the engine nacelles come to a point at their upper edge in all the photos (and the kit parts), but they are portrayed as an arc in the drawings. Also, the nacelles seem a bit fat in the drawings vs. photos. Things noticed about the kit: Mine was a late-issue, so some of the moldings were a little soft, especially the side louvres & oval prop-shaft/engine ports on the nacelle halves. The louvres may be re-cut with an exacto, but the aft ends of the nacelles may need a touch of filler, and the radiators will need the shutters carefully scraped off. Be careful not to slice off the tailskid when removing fuselage halves from the backing sheets - unless you want to rework it. Even though the G.V nacelle halves have blobs on them, they look salvageable if one has to have a V and doesn't mind the extra struttage, etc. The kit has slightly uneven fuselage halves, i.e., the port half was molded about right, but the starboard half seems a bit shallow, so I left some of the depth from the backing sheets on both halves to compensate. I'm considering some sort of interior card armature to stiffen the fuselage. I've decided to back the wings with eith .05 or .10 thou card, as this will enable me to assemble and attach the lower wings as a unit and also provide slightly more depth for strut locator holes. Despite its minor flaws and lack of decals, overall, I'd say this is one of the best vacs I've ever seen. For the G.IV, you could probably get by without the white metal set, as the lovely Aeroclub D.IVa engines would be better used on other G-types (or C-types) with more visible powerplants anyway. If there's anything else I should know about this (such as an impending release date for the Toko kit) please let me know. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:32:08 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C8E@mimhexch.mim.com.au> DB > A very good book too! You could even use it to build your own > repro of a 15th > century military crossbow with a 1200lb (that's right, TWELVE > HUNDRED) draw > wt. Pierce plate armor at 300yds. > Any takers? Could I use it to shoot anyone indulging in endless ot discussion on the list ? Shane (in case that's too dry) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:36:34 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <001901bf6e00$455f6bc0$b580aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Wait - you blaming me for this one? Check your sources bud! DB -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:34 PM Subject: RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert >DB > > >> A very good book too! You could even use it to build your own >> repro of a 15th >> century military crossbow with a 1200lb (that's right, TWELVE >> HUNDRED) draw >> wt. Pierce plate armor at 300yds. >> Any takers? > >Could I use it to shoot anyone indulging in endless ot discussion on the >list ? > >Shane > > (in case that's too dry) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. >E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:44:06 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C8F@mimhexch.mim.com.au> etc. says: > Enough about my heresies-I'm here to > tell you, brothers & sisters, that I'm keeping the faith once again. Welcome back brother Roryr of the thousand names. Interesting review of the vac Gotha too - and maybe more necessary than we all thought if the Toko Gothas don't ever see the light of day Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:47:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: The Book of Armaments, was Re: major ot VCR alert Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C90@mimhexch.mim.com.au> DB > Wait - you blaming me for this one? Check your sources bud! > Hell no, just wondering if the big bow would be useful on the list. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:50:46 -0600 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. Message-ID: <001301bf6e02$3d039c60$ad305d18@austin.rr.com> Darius Maximus returns! On the Toko thing well......archive from the last week should suffice. Rareplanes Gotha! what a way to get back in the swing of things! Welcome back noble Riordan! Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:33 PM Subject: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. > Greetings gents & ladies, > > Just getting over a bout of Cold War fever; experienced a temporary > strange love for atom bombers. Enough about my heresies-I'm here to > tell you, brothers & sisters, that I'm keeping the faith once again. > Got inspired while reading Fredette's "The Sky on Fire" and found myself > - Lord help me - cutting and filing on the Rareplanes Gotha again. I've > never built a vac before... > I noticed a few things that may be of interest. First of all, I'm fairly > confident that the 'RG' (my initials) G.IV (photo #40, pg. 19 of the DF > special) was 406/16, as I've accounted for nearly all of the other > machines in that production run in photos/refs. Also, the baby Swiss > Army knife makes a pretty good tool for cutting out vacs - blade is > thick enough so it is sort of 'self-guiding'-cuts about 1/32 from the > egde of the parts. Don't know how the edge will hold up, though. > I was surprised to find that the Rareplanes vac *appears* to be a bit > more accurate in some ways than the esteemed Mr. Stair's drawings. The > curving lower-front panels of the engine nacelles come to a point at > their upper edge in all the photos (and the kit parts), but they are > portrayed as an arc in the drawings. Also, the nacelles seem a bit fat > in the drawings vs. photos. > > Things noticed about the kit: > > Mine was a late-issue, so some of the moldings were a little soft, > especially the side louvres & oval prop-shaft/engine ports on the > nacelle halves. The louvres may be re-cut with an exacto, but the aft > ends of the nacelles may need a touch of filler, and the radiators will > need the shutters carefully scraped off. Be careful not to slice off > the tailskid when removing fuselage halves from the backing sheets - > unless you want to rework it. Even though the G.V nacelle halves have > blobs on them, they look salvageable if one has to have a V and doesn't > mind the extra struttage, etc. > The kit has slightly uneven fuselage halves, i.e., the port half was > molded about right, but the starboard half seems a bit shallow, so I > left some of the depth from the backing sheets on both halves to > compensate. I'm considering some sort of interior card armature to > stiffen the fuselage. > I've decided to back the wings with eith .05 or .10 thou card, as this > will enable me to assemble and attach the lower wings as a unit and also > provide slightly more depth for strut locator holes. > Despite its minor flaws and lack of decals, overall, I'd say this is one > of the best vacs I've ever seen. For the G.IV, you could probably get by > without the white metal set, as the lovely Aeroclub D.IVa engines would > be better used on other G-types (or C-types) with more visible > powerplants anyway. > If there's anything else I should know about this (such as an impending > release date for the Toko kit) please let me know. > > Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:30:15 -0500 From: nieuport To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <38991267.334153EF@home.com> definitely not crappy. :) a number of the unidentified components are standard Nieuport items. http://ww1stuff.freeservers.com/images/unknown/nieu_upper.jpg is at an angle (perspective is responsible for the taper) Based on the root structure I would suspect it was from a 17. http://ww1stuff.freeservers.com/images/unknown/fus2.jpg is a Nieuport scout (probably an 11) http://ww1stuff.freeservers.com/images/unknown/elev1.jpg is a Nieuport elevator (also probably an 11) no idea what the rest is from. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:22:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The return of Roy/Ray/Murray/Darius etc. Message-ID: In a message dated 2/2/00 8:31:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes: << Greetings gents & ladies, Just getting over a bout of Cold War fever; experienced a temporary strange love for atom bombers. Enough about my heresies-I'm here to tell you, brothers & sisters, that I'm keeping the faith once again. Got inspired while reading Fredette's "The Sky on Fire" and found myself - Lord help me - cutting and filing on the Rareplanes Gotha again. I've never built a vac before....................... I was surprised to find that the Rareplanes vac *appears* to be a bit more accurate in some ways than the esteemed Mr. Stair's drawings. The curving lower-front panels of the engine nacelles come to a point at their upper edge in all the photos (and the kit parts), but they are portrayed as an arc in the drawings. >> Firstly- welcome back oh RedEaredOne! Secondly- yeah, you have to watch the DF Gotha drawings. It's been awhile since I've seriously messed with them, and I can't exactly remeber the problem areas, but if I had relied solely on them for my scratchbuilt job, I would've been up the creek. I also worked with the H. Woodman set, plus other bits and pieces. Between Woodman and Stair, though, a pretty good concoction of Gotha Bomber can be brewed. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:40:37 -0500 From: nieuport To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <389914D5.EB01BB47@home.com> The unidentified vee type engine is a Hispano-Suiza of some sort I have updated my site again, adding more British and French subjects, plus even a Russian aircraft (a Sikorsky) but I have a few drawings of machines I am not sure what to do with - anyone know what country Pischoff came from? I have a drawings of an obscure and very awkward machine built by him and I wasn't sure if he was German or Russian. More German and American stuff is on its way, and I even have a drawing of the 1920 Rumpler automobile (both convertable and sedan) to be scanned in. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:39:43 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C93@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Mike > anyone know what country > Pischoff came from? Could be Australia. For some reason lots of people call *me* that Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 1980 23:52:34 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: another crappy ww1 site... Message-ID: <12DAD621.A0077DA@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > Could be Australia. For some reason lots of people call *me* that > That's true. I called you that just a little while ago. ;p E. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2123 **********************