WWI Digest 2117 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: News for micro-modelers by Shane Weier 2) Re: First kits by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Re: First kits by smperry@mindspring.com 6) Re: First kits by Albatrosdv@aol.com 7) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by "Lee Mensinger" 8) Re: First kits by Albatrosdv@aol.com 9) Re: First kits by smperry@mindspring.com 10) Re: First kits by Albatrosdv@aol.com 11) Re: First kits by CTJDavies@aol.com 12) Fokker D VI by Brent & Tina Theobald 13) Re.8 Seatbelts by Brent & Tina Theobald 14) Pfalz DIII or DIIIa by "D Charles" 15) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by "D Charles" 16) Re: Fokker D VI by "Bob Pearson" 17) Re: Pfalz DIII or DIIIa by "Leonard Endy" 18) 你打鼾吗？ by hanliting@163.net 19) RE: Fokker D VI by "John Glaser" 20) RE: Air classics by Shane Weier 21) RE: First kits by Shane Weier 22) RE: If I were to pitch a Hollywood script.... by Shane Weier 23) RE: An Old Fart Remembers by Shane Weier 24) Re: Re.8 Seatbelts by Pedro e Francisca 25) Re: 65 Individual Cross & Cockades (USA) on eBay by "Andy Kemp" 26) Re: Fokker D VI by Ernest Thomas 27) Re: First kits by Lyle Lamboley 28) Re: First kits by smperry@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:39:25 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: News for micro-modelers Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C5D@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom says: >> From what I have seen, Revell-Germany (who I am sure did >> this) does not sit on molds, but rather makes kits from them. True, they have quite a number of other peoples moulds in their range. If anyone had to take Toko over, I suspect they're the best bet - remember that Revell are the ones bringing out new 1:72 kits of WW2 subjects which are both accurate and *cheap*, and are not afraid to sell non mainstream subjects (Luft'46 stuff) so may be a chance to keep the Toko line going - and (start praying) complete and release the Gothas etc. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:10:36 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <4e.1128f8b.25c52fdc@aol.com> In a message dated 1/29/00 9:03:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << the reason that "The Great Waldo Pepper" was a failure (commercially - it was) was because Redford didn't rescue the girl, and in those days the audience wouldn't let him do that. >> almost seriously- just about everybody I've talked to about this movie agrees that getting rid of Susan Sarondon(sp?) this way was the highlight of the movie. First time I saw it I was sitting around with some friends watching it on TV- when she took the fall, everybody cheered- and we weren't even drunk! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:10:35 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <2b.13c5246.25c52fdb@aol.com> In a message dated 1/29/00 9:09:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, lemen@wireweb.net writes: << Or even put it in the far backgound of an oversized diorama. Bob does stuff like that. Lee >> That 1/1 scale Gotha is starting to sound mighty tempting.......course our backyard is only about 65'x 40'...might run into dispaly area problems. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:10:36 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: In a message dated 1/29/00 8:36:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, Zulis@aol.com writes: << Gee, Lee, how long ago did you promise this? I think RK may have got fed up and made one for himself.... :-) DZ >> I reckon my philosphy of life is pretty much summed up with "a fellow can't have too many Gothas" RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:21:10 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <008d01bf6aea$33da4fa0$d00556d1@default> First time I saw it I was sitting around with some friends watching it > on TV- when she took the fall, everybody cheered- and we weren't even drunk! > RK That was my reaction. Susan Surandon is cute as a pet coon, but didn't do much for the movie one way or the other. What made me uncomfortable was the scene where the yokel tosses his cig around the wrecked airplane and toasts the brother. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:44:41 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <33.a81a50.25c537d9@aol.com> In a message dated 00-01-30 01:13:22 EST, you write: << almost seriously- just about everybody I've talked to about this movie agrees that getting rid of Susan Sarondon(sp?) this way was the highlight of the movie. First time I saw it I was sitting around with some friends watching it on TV- when she took the fall, everybody cheered- and we weren't even drunk! RK >> You're right, as usual, RK,, but all being right proves is you have been a wierdo for longer than you remember. :-) The fact is, the movie was made by George Roy Hill, a director who loved the topic (a WW2 Marine fighter pilot who flew around in those days in a 1929 Alexander Eagle Rock - an airplane my dad knew well if the rest of you don't), and he *specifically" had Goldman put the scene in because he knew it was "true" and he was trying to do the story right, but - just as Stallone isn't allowed by the great unwashed to be other than Rocky - the audience would not buy Redford losing the girl. FWIW, in his book "Adventures in the Screen Trade" (which I *highly* recommend to any of you who want to know what the movie business is *really* all about), Goldman says that Hill told him after the great disaster that they should have cast Jack Nicholson, because he had a dark enough persona the audience would have allowed the event without killing the movie. Believe me, I went to the movie with my then wife and her best friend - both of who were serious movie fans, and both of who tolerated airplanes because they liked me, and both of them *hated* Redford losing the girl. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:50:03 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <3893DF1B.C8B4B36A@wireweb.net> Bless you my friend for you are truly my friend. The thought was as big as the plane. Lee KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/29/00 9:09:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lemen@wireweb.net writes: > > << Or even put it in the far backgound of an oversized > diorama. Bob does stuff like that. > Lee >> > > That 1/1 scale Gotha is starting to sound mighty tempting.......course our > backyard is only about 65'x 40'...might run into dispaly area problems. > RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:51:16 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <98.1106b52.25c53964@aol.com> In a message dated 00-01-30 01:22:31 EST, you write: << What made me uncomfortable was the scene where the yokel tosses his cig around the wrecked airplane and toasts the brother. >> Thanks Steve - you join my dad, who remembered seeing that very scene happen. To this day, I hate the people who go "to see the crash." I was toasted on r.m.s. for telling the tale of kicking the daylights out of an "air race fan" who was turned on by Steve Hinton's crash in the Red Baron RB-51 back in 1979. When they pulled me off the worthless toad, there was a good chance he'd never speak or procreate again (due to where I had aimed the blows), and no one around me - all air race particpants - saw a thing. As far as I am concerned, that kind of fan needs removal. Permanently (and my only regret is it wasn't). Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:03:38 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <00c901bf6af0$22a383e0$d00556d1@default> Tom: Not so sure about fisticuffs, but I recall a local EAA fly-in where one of our chapter, Col. Robert Hiley, demonstrated "Command Authority" with his voice as he informed a spectator that smoking wasn't allowed on the flight line. The whole airport heard him :-) I have been fortunate not to have witnessed any airshow accidents and hope to keep it that way. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:22:18 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <79.1015bee.25c540aa@aol.com> In a message dated 00-01-30 02:05:52 EST, you write: << I have been fortunate not to have witnessed any airshow accidents and hope to keep it that way. >> If I never see another, it will be far too soon. Was talking with a volunteer at PoF Museum, and he remembered the 1977 accident that killed the Fresno Warbirds show, where a guy in an AcroSport was doing a "hammerhead stall" that involved going vertical till no forward airspeed, then kicking the rudder to the right, going over and recovering. Only the guy lost acquisition of the ground, and when he lost airspeed he wasd 45 degrees on his back; when he kicked bottom rudder he fell over into an inverted flat spin, at 1,200' AGL. I was there, too, with my then 10 year old daughter (a major airplane fan and PIC in the Grumman Tiger we had on long cross-country's - a professional pilot today) and we watched him impact inverted between the two major runways, about 100 yards from the crowd line. Talk about a great way to end a good time in an instant! To this day I will never forget being on Pylon #1 at Reno in 1979 when my good friend Steve Hinton crashed the RB-51. When he turned final he was at field altitude; I knew there would be a crash and there was. Jim Maloney - his friend since 3rd grade - did a world's record as he ran 1.5 miles along the runway and down the hillside to get there in time to save him. The engine and wings had separated from the fuselage and exploded (full of fuel), and a minute (literally!) after Jim pulled Steve out of the cockpit (one broken arm and two broken legs) and got him aboard the Dustoff, the fuselage caught fire. And then two years later Jim was lost in a PT-22, running into a cloud with rocks in the bottom, flying back from Phoenix to Chino on a "nothing" flight. I have been to too many funerals of people who died "too young" as a result of being involved in aviation. Yet, in every case, had that person known the outcome beforehand, it would have changed nothing. Like someone once said, it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Hmmm... it's getting late and the bottle of Chardonnay with the Chicken Normandie I made is catching up. :-) Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:09:20 EST From: CTJDavies@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <2d.992de5.25c54bb0@aol.com> In einer eMail vom 30.01.2000 03:38:52 (MEZ) Mitteleurop鋓sche Zeit schreibt lyle.lamboley@juno.com: << Now I am doing R/C and am currently building a Proctor D.VII, >> Hi Lyle, good to have you here. Keep us informed on the DVII, not too may R/Cers around here unfortunately. I finished VKs Camel last year, haven't flown it yet (coward). Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:33:41 -0600 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Fokker D VI Message-ID: <3893F765.B8EFCA8B@airmail.net> Greetings, I am looking for a little help with my Fokker D VI. Is there a handy reference source for this little beast? All I really want is a little reference so I paint it in camo instead of lozenge. Just like on the Tom's Modelworks box. Thanks! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:37:37 -0600 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re.8 Seatbelts Message-ID: <3893F851.DFADAB68@airmail.net> I am a little disappointed with my Re.8 Datafile. I can't find a clear indication of how to make and attach seat belts. All I have found is one shot with a seat belt hanging out of the cockpit. Was the Re.8 equipped with just a lap belt or was there a shoulder harness tossed in there too? Thanks again gang! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:51:24 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Pfalz DIII or DIIIa Message-ID: <002301bf6b00$9ffea120$127408d2@charles> Which is the preferred option for an out of the box build: The Eduard Pfalz DIII or the DIIIa? A while back there was some list discussion on this topic but I can't access it at present. What was the conclusion? TIA David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:59:34 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <002401bf6b00$a109a880$127408d2@charles> 1st Vickers Valiant V bomber. Probably Frog or Airfix as I can't imagine much else being available in the more remote regions of Australia in the late 1950's 1st OT DH2 and I still want to build more of them! David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:18:39 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker D VI Message-ID: <200001300918.BAA12369@mail.rapidnet.net> Sorry, AFAIK no D.VIs were done up in camo. . they were all in four or five colour lozenge. Bob ---------- >From: Brent & Tina Theobald >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Fokker D VI >Date: Sun, 30 Jan, 2000, 12:27 AM > > Greetings, > > I am looking for a little help with my Fokker D VI. Is there a handy > reference source for this little beast? All I really want is a little > reference so I paint it in camo instead of lozenge. Just like on the > Tom's Modelworks box. > > Thanks! > > Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:25:09 -0500 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz DIII or DIIIa Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 04:00:17 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Which is the preferred option for an out of the box build: The Eduard Pfalz >DIII or the DIIIa? > The D.IIIa - no photoetch to play with as w/the D.III. 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Not much in color in either but good drawings by Ian Stair and brief histories in both. As far as building the Eduard kit, I clipped the following from fellow listee Alvie: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:22:45 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fok D.VI Message-ID: <382E7155.93AD90DB@bellatlantic.net> As far as the drawings I have on the Fok. D.VI the kit is fairly accurate in outline.. The rudder and stabilizer are way to thick and should be sanded down to about half original thickness. The upper aind lower wing halves reqiire a lot of sanding to get a smooth, gapless fit at the leading and trailing edges (you may want to discard the lower wing halves and use sheet styrene instead). On mine I found the cabane struts were too short, replace with wire or plastic rod. I really do wish the lower wings were made one piece or one piece upper and lower the two two piece but joined lower wing halves made assembly a bit of a pain, especially when the cabane struts were the wrong size. The most glaring error I found on the kit is that the under surface of the fuselage in planform at the flare to the cowling is not symmetrical. This caused problems with wing alignment. The next one I do I will check the fuselage carefully before painting and decaling (over all lozenge). I will also cut a notch in the bottom of the fuselage halves for a lower wing box spar carry through like the prototype and fabricate a new single lower wing bottom piece incorporating the box spar so that I get a solid lower wing join. I can then assemble the interplane struts to theblower wings, the upper wings to the interplane struts and have a more or less rigid wing cellule with which to size cabane struts. Hindsight is always 20/20. Anyway it a pretty little airplane. By the way, if you do Siebert's Jasta 80b aircraft, the fuselage band should be black with white edging not turquoise. HTH Alvie When I get a good "how to" post on a specific plane like this, I also print it to stick in the kit box should I ever get around to building the subject. - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Brent & Tina Theobald Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Fokker D VI Greetings, I am looking for a little help with my Fokker D VI. Is there a handy reference source for this little beast? All I really want is a little reference so I paint it in camo instead of lozenge. Just like on the Tom's Modelworks box. Thanks! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:47:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Air classics Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C62@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Glen, >It's still too damn cold to airbrush in the garage. Yo, Shane. > Can I come over to your house and airbrush? :) Yeah, sure. It's 24C here at the moment (at 23:45) and 90% humidity. Bring a moisture trap. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:00:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: First kits Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C63@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom > He specifically ordered Frog kits for me, > and then some Airfix. I walked out shaking my head, saying > "they're all the > same scale..." (this would have been circa '58-'60) > Of course, Airfix marketed their range around the "constant scale" concept. I admit that they caught me hook, line and sinker, because once I'd started a 1:72 collection I wasn't the slightest bit interested in 1:anything else for many years. Of course, with age ones mind broadens and with the development of greater skills I find myself able to consider using *two* different constant scales ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:02:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: If I were to pitch a Hollywood script.... Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C64@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Bob, > > a Strutter 2 AFC had borrowed from the French, > > Ah, the infamous 'Sophie'. You forgot to put quotes around > 'borrowed'. . it helps explain the 'acquisition' better. ...not to me. That's the traditional term. Why, many of our first European settlers came here after borrowing things! Shane (an ex-soldier, and possessor of many a fine item of equipment not actually officially issued) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:09:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C65@mimhexch.mim.com.au> David, > 1st OT DH2 and I still want to build more of them! > Good. Scratch one in 1:28 to go with the DH-5 I promise I'll only look and shake my head and let Fred be the one accusing you of lunacy. Shane (who remembers you nabbing the only DH-2 kit at QMHE'96) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:41:04 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re.8 Seatbelts Message-ID: <38940730.40230FE@mail.telepac.pt> Brent & Tina Theobald wrote: > I am a little disappointed with my Re.8 Datafile. I can't find a clear > indication of how to make and attach seat belts. All I have found is one > shot with a seat belt hanging out of the cockpit. Was the Re.8 equipped > with just a lap belt or was there a shoulder harness tossed in there > too? > > Thanks again gang! > > Brent Brent, the RE5/7 datafile (so this can only be used as indication) has a drawing which shows what I believe to be lap belts only. But then again there's a picture of a cockpit (taken from a not too good angle) that doesn't seem to show any belt at all but on the othre had shows a nice cushioned arm rest on the internal structure to the side of the seat.... Not much help but that's all I've got Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:31:42 -0000 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: 65 Individual Cross & Cockades (USA) on eBay Message-ID: <00c001bf6b31$910ed0a0$38428cd4@675> > I have a Cross & Cockades (USA) Table of Contents by Volume and Number in > e-mail format that I received courtesy of Bob Pearson. It is long but > would this be something worthwhile posting to the List. Would that be > O.K., Bob? We have a similar section on the Cross & Cockade web site for the GB & International journals - and I'd be quite happy to add a section to cover the original US journal too! Let me know ... Andy Kemp www.crossandcockade.com Society of WW1 Aero Historians ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 1980 08:58:49 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker D VI Message-ID: <12D61028.3A1CBA1B@bellsouth.net> Brent & Tina Theobald wrote: > Greetings, > > I am looking for a little help with my Fokker D VI. Is there a handy > reference source for this little beast? All I really want is a little > reference so I paint it in camo instead of lozenge. Hi Brent, I'm sure one of the learned scholars must have pointed out by now that D-VI's were overall loz. BUt if you're in the mood for some Dicta Ira, I have the Munson drawings which I could send a photo-copy of. However, those only show half of the airplane, so you'd have to make up the rest. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:01:55 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <20000130.100156.-241483.0.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> I have an original VK Camel sitting on my shelf, right next to a DVa from Proctor. I can certainly understand how you feel about flying it! My triplane has three flights on it and it is currently hanging from the ceiling. Much better for my nerves. I have a Fokker E.V that is far better behaved in the air, I guess that's why it's such a popular choice for the flyers. The D.VII is quite a challenge--the fuselage is built from 5/16" dowels, an attempt at simulating the steel tube. It is a little large for true scale, but still effective. I hope to have it finished for the Dayton Dawn Patrol in September, but the best laid plans are usually cast side by dumb things like work and bills. Ha! On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:17:13 -0500 (EST) CTJDavies@aol.com writes: > In einer eMail vom 30.01.2000 03:38:52 (MEZ) Mitteleurop鋓sche Zeit > schreibt > lyle.lamboley@juno.com: > > << Now I am doing R/C and am currently building a Proctor D.VII, >> > Hi Lyle, > good to have you here. Keep us informed on the DVII, not too may > R/Cers > around here unfortunately. I finished VKs Camel last year, haven't > flown it > yet (coward). > Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:15:00 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: First kits Message-ID: <002801bf6b34$c764b2c0$650d56d1@default> Welcome Lyle. WWI Models is the language spoken here and it doesn't matter if its 1/144 scale or underpowered with a G-62 on it. Now y'all are gonna be in big trouble if I start building R/C again. The wife will definitely have a word or three to say about it ;-) Despite the risks, please fo keep us posted on your doings with the bigger birds. Regards sp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2117 **********************