WWI Digest 2114 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? by "Peter Leonard" 2) Re: News for micro-modelers by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by Brent & Tina Theobald 5) Fw: Revell-Monogram Gotha by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 6) Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? by Ernest Thomas 7) Re: News for micro-modelers by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 8) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by "David Calhoun" 9) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by "David Calhoun" 11) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by "Paul G." 12) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by KarrArt@aol.com 13) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by KarrArt@aol.com 14) RE: An Old Fart Remembers by "John Glaser" 15) Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? by Albatrosdv@aol.com 16) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by REwing@aol.com 17) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by Pedro e Francisca 18) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by CTJDavies@aol.com 19) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by Suvoroff@aol.com 20) Re: An old fart remembers by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Apologies in order, was Re: News for micro-modelers by skarver@banet.net 22) RE: An Old Fart Remembers by "cameron rile" 23) Re: An Old Fart Remembers by "Sandy Adam" 24) RE: Salmson rear office by "John Glaser" 25) Re: News for micro-modelers by Pedro e Francisca 26) RE: Salmson rear office by "Matthew Bittner" 27) Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? by "Peter Leonard" 28) C&C(US) help by "Matthew Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:57:06 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? Message-ID: <20000129025706.38397.qmail@hotmail.com> This is no b.s. maybe possibly perhaps Frank Luke script that may get no further than the inside of an excercise book, this is for real! Check this out folks, and the popcorn's on me. http://www.strikerair.com/movies/index.html Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:02:48 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: News for micro-modelers Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/00 6:30:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, mkendix@juno.com writes: << Note that Toko already had some tough competition from Eduard/Flashback, ICM, and a bunch of decent resin kit manufacturers such as TOM, HR, Artur etc. and at prices that are competitive. Don't despair, nobody died. Michael >> Though I don't build wee-scale, I do follow the news, and anything that spreads WW I is a good thing. I'm wondering if maybe Toko wasn't too ambitious? It seemed like they released an awfully large number of kits in a short time. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:06:23 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/00 6:59:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, peter_leonard@hotmail.com writes: << This is no b.s. maybe possibly perhaps Frank Luke script that may get no further than the inside of an excercise book, this is for real! Check this out folks, and the popcorn's on me. http://www.strikerair.com/movies/index.html Peter L >> I.....am.....stunned. I'm not sure whether I should cheer or go off into a dark corner and hang myself with a pair of old panty hose. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:27:23 -0600 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <38925E1B.CAC597E7@airmail.net> This is going to sound a little weird but... My first model was an old 1/72 B-24 that my dad picked up at a garage sale. My first WWI airplane was a Revell Sopwith Camel. It was a complete disaster. That was it for OT plastic for a few years. I built a few balsa kits as a teenager. A Triplane, SE-5A and D.Va. The best one was a Thomas Morse Scout I built from some plans in Model Airplane News. It looked good and flew great. At least it did until I added a rubber band much too large for the little peanut scale model. After one too many winds on the rubber band the fuselage just contracted. If anyone knows of the plans I used I would appreciate a copy. The only lead I have is that the Model Airplane News issue was from the early to mid 80's. The first WWI project I completed as an adult was the Albatros D.Va from Edweird. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:15:37 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Fw: Revell-Monogram Gotha Message-ID: <002c01bf6a07$1e115170$453c183f@cyrixp166> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF69DD.3440BCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John & Allison Cyganowski=20 To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu=20 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:11 PM Subject: Revell-Monogram Gotha writes: "Just when do Monogram intend releasing the Gotha or the DH10? " I doubt you will see the Gotha again. I asked a Revell-Monogram exec. = about the Aurora kits when I was at the 1997 IPMS Nats. We have all = heard the "train wreck story". Well, this fellow claimed that most of = these molds were deliberately destroyed. He detailed the = Glencoe-Revell=3DMonogram "arrangement" ant told me to drop him a line = and he would look into the Gotha. He did and I don't think the mold = exists anymore. He also told us that all of the Revell 1/32 Japanese = Fighter molds (except the Zero) were missing. No more Jacks, Tonys, = Geroges...... ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF69DD.3440BCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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I doubt you will see the Gotha again. I = asked a=20 Revell-Monogram exec. about the Aurora kits when I was at the 1997 IPMS = Nats. We=20 have all heard the "train wreck story". Well, this fellow claimed that = most of=20 these molds were deliberately destroyed. He detailed the = Glencoe-Revell=3DMonogram=20 "arrangement" ant told me to drop him a line and he would look into the = Gotha.=20 He did and I don't think the mold exists anymore. He also told us that = all of=20 the Revell 1/32 Japanese Fighter molds (except the Zero) were missing. = No more=20 Jacks, Tonys, Geroges......
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF69DD.3440BCD0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 1980 21:18:20 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? Message-ID: <12D41A7C.559047D1@bellsouth.net> Peter Leonard wrote: > This is no b.s. maybe possibly perhaps Frank Luke script that may get no > further than the inside of an excercise book, this is for real! > Check this out folks, and the popcorn's on me. This looks very cool! E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:26:22 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: News for micro-modelers Message-ID: <200001290326.TAA10618@smtpout.telus.net> I don't know about anyone else but I am stunned and real sad. I don't put to much faith in Revell Germany having any models out for 6 months or more, probably more maybe much more. Not that I think they will sit on the molds, but hey big corporation never means fast. As to Toko showing wwi models cant make a go of it, remember that Toko's main business was not specifically plastic models. Darn I really wanted those Gotha's Ray On 28 Jan 00, at 20:05, K. Hagerup wrote: > No public apology to Earl after all the earlier vituperation? > > It looks like at least someone knew. > > Perhaps Toko fell victim to some of that Marxist economic training... > > Ken > > > Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > > > > I got this from Earl at NKR just now. It's also confirmed by my > > source at Eduard, who says no one knew (which is the way this stuff > > is supposed to happen). > > > > Tom Cleaver > > > > To: nkrmodel@netconnect.com.au > > Subject: Toko > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > > > > Well, the latest news from the Ukraine is that Toko now ceases to > > exist! As to the moulds...Revell Germany has bought them!! > > > > Earl. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:25:54 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <00bc01bf6bbc$6a175180$99093ccc@oemcomputer> Since I am below the average age (34) I remember building 2 Aurora Green Berets in the late '60's that my cousin gave me. (wish I still had one of those guys). My first OT model was Revell's SPAD 13 - 1/28 scale, followed soon later by the Fok. Dr.1 and Sopwith camel. This was in the mid '70's and I think they were under the Advent label - Rickenbacker, MvR & Roy Brown were the decals in these kits. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: Robert M Farrar III To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:24 PM Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers > Boy this brings back memories. First bwas a 1/32 MG by Airfix. First OT >was the Hawk Nieuport in '67-'68. >Bob > >Peter Leonard wrote: > >> An exchange off list got me to thinking about the old days, something I'm >> apt to do as the prospect of a bus pass draws ever closer. We established a >> while ago that the average age on the list is around 42, possibly the only >> time I could claim to be above average in this company, but can we all >> remember what was our first plastic kit and then our first OT kit? >> >> My first was the Airfix Stuka, which I swear would have pulled out of the >> dive if only my room had been one storey higher. My second ever kit was a >> very OT Airfix Camel; I even painted it, grandad had just painted the back >> door and had some bottle green paint left over. Dicta Ira?? Don't talk to me >> about Dicta Ira!! >> >> Peter Leonard >> IPMS UK >> Lancashire & Cheshire Branch >> http://www.storks.cwc.net >> http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com >> PeterL@cwcom.net >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:36:37 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/00 8:28:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, dcalhoun01@snet.net writes: << Since I am below the average age (34) I remember building 2 Aurora Green Berets in the late '60's that my cousin gave me. (wish I still had one of those guys). My first OT model was Revell's SPAD 13 - 1/28 scale, followed soon later by the Fok. Dr.1 and Sopwith camel. This was in the mid '70's and I think they were under the Advent label - Rickenbacker, MvR & Roy Brown were the decals in these kits. Dave Calhoun >> Does anybody remember if the Advent issues of these kits included pilots and ground crew? RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:50:31 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <018401bf6bbf$daf9e900$99093ccc@oemcomputer> Yes they did - the SPAD had a seated pilot figure & 2 groundcrew, the Sopwith had 1 mechanic leaning on the prop, and the Fokker had 2 groundcrew and MvR (the only one I still have) Dave C-----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers >In a message dated 1/28/00 8:28:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, >dcalhoun01@snet.net writes: > ><< Since I am below the average age (34) I remember building 2 Aurora Green > Berets in the late '60's that my cousin gave me. (wish I still had one of > those guys). My first OT model was Revell's SPAD 13 - 1/28 scale, followed > soon later by the Fok. Dr.1 and Sopwith camel. This was in the mid '70's > and I think they were under the Advent label - Rickenbacker, MvR & Roy Brown > were the decals in these kits. > Dave Calhoun >> > >Does anybody remember if the Advent issues of these kits included pilots and >ground crew? >RK > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:59:13 -0500 From: "Paul G." To: Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <00ab01bf6a15$97467da0$51dd9bce@oemcomputer> > Does anybody remember if the Advent issues of these kits included pilots and > ground crew? > RK My Advent DR1 has pilot and two ground crew figures. My Advent Camel apparently only has a pilot figure. I don't have the Advent SPAD but believe it probably has the pilot and ground crew figures included. Paul G. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:18:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/00 9:02:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, gabertp@cpis.net writes: << My Advent DR1 has pilot and two ground crew figures. My Advent Camel apparently only has a pilot figure. I don't have the Advent SPAD but believe it probably has the pilot and ground crew figures included. Paul G. >> Thanks- it was just one of those curiosity type things. I've been "deep cleaning" around here the last week, going through old boxes and drawers, and I came across the instructions for my first 1/28 Camel, among other things. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:18:17 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/00 8:53:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, dcalhoun01@snet.net writes: << Yes they did - the SPAD had a seated pilot figure & 2 groundcrew, the Sopwith had 1 mechanic leaning on the prop, and the Fokker had 2 groundcrew and MvR (the only one I still have) >> I still have most of the 1/28 figures, and a few of their amputated pieces in my "morgue" box. I was curious about the Advent issue- that period in Revel history has confuddelated me! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:21:07 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <000001bf6a21$08a30670$8d00000a@johnghome> Spoken like a true, cutaway, tiny etched pervert! Back on subject........... First model & first OT were one and the same. An Aurora Jenny built in either 1959 or 1960 at Saturday morning "camp" at the YMCA in Madison NJ. - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of KarrArt@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 8:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers In a message dated 1/28/00 12:32:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, Zulis@aol.com writes: << The first kit I can remember building was a rather large cutaway model of a submarine (Ethan Allan? maybe?). Ever see those anatomy pics of the human body with all the organs painted a different colour for clarity? >> Speaking of cut-away submarines and human anatomy, I had one of the Renwall subs, and if you looked closely on one of the bulkheads in the crew quarters, you'd find tiny pinup posters featuring naked women etched in! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:03:25 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? Message-ID: In a message dated 00-01-28 21:59:58 EST, you write: << This is no b.s. maybe possibly perhaps Frank Luke script that may get no further than the inside of an excercise book, this is for real! Check this out folks, and the popcorn's on me. >> Not to bust your bubble, Peter, but did you notice that the "German bomber that isn't any one airplane" is a badly-done Aurora Gotha kit. Also, guys, it would be impossible in the time frame of a movie to tell a story like that that wasn't merely a bunch of "incidents." I hate to tell you this, but if you saw a movie with that kind of structure, you would hate it. This website is what used to be, back in the days before the internet, an expensively-printed multi-color cover on a screenplay. In "da biz," that is a dead giveaway that what is inside the cover is thoroughly amateurish, which that story line and the rest at this site clearly demonstrates. This is something put up by a talentless wannabee. Sorry, I'd like a good OT movie as much as the next guy - and I speak as someone who did write a movie about Frank Luke that did get put into development for about six months 15 years ago before they came to their senses - but from my position as someone who has a bit of a clue how this stuff happens, this is don't-hold-your-breath time. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:33:20 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <37.adae1a.25c3f1c0@aol.com> I wanted to take my turn on this most fascinating thread. I don't remember my first kit since I was about 4 at the time. My dad would build models and I would build mine by looking at the pictures. My first OT kit was the Aurora Gotha in its green plastic and etched-in markings. I was about 8 then and the glue had hardly dried before I was flying it out its first mission. I built just about every kind of model kit and didn't get back to W.W.I until 7th and 8th grades. That was when the movie "Blue Max" and Milton Bradley's "Dogfight" game came out. I played around a lot with the Airfix, Revell, and Renwal kits with a few of the Auroras just for good measure. I was also building (and crashing!!!) Guillows and Sterlings for quite a while. All OT. It wasn't until about 10 years ago I started to really get back into the hobby. I have been enjoying myself ever since, especially after finding this group. -Rick- "Why pay money to have your family tree traced? Go into politics, and your opponents will do it for you." Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:59:06 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <38921F3A.F9A07D2D@mail.telepac.pt> Peter Leonard wrote: > but can we all > remember what was our first plastic kit Frog Hawker Tempest in 1969 (took an hour to glue all the parts (including the optional) with pelikan celulose glue and had the time of my life with the transfers. I still remember the circular propeller thing it had meant to represent a revolving prop. I do believe it was one of the best Frog's and this year I had the pleasure of getting the NOVO rendition of it with the kind assistance from dear old Uncle Sniffy, which I'll keep unbuilt of course. > and then our first OT kit? I once had a go at a Revell camel many years ago, but really my first one OT was the Pup that is on Al's site Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:39:00 EST From: CTJDavies@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <6d.ccb766.25c40f34@aol.com> ..and here's my little story; I can't remember which was my first, I must have been 4 or 5. My dad built models and coming home from work he would very rarely (at least that's how it seemed to me) stop at the hobby shop (or NAAFI for us) and buy one for me and my brother. I can clearly remember the old Airfix Hawker Hunter and DH Mosquito, both 1/72 of course. I'm sure we (my brother and myself) built OT's, too. One day we were out playing in the front yard of some friend's house (in RAF Germany), it was trash pick-up day and everyone had their trash cans lined up on the sidewalk and out of curiosity I opened my friend's and found 7 or 8 unstarted boxed Aurora OT's. I was absolutely stunned, I guess it just wasn't his thing. Up until then I had only seen Airfix and a few Revell. I didn't even know there were other companies. And big scale! I asked his dad if I could take them and my buddy was disgusted that I was taking them out of the trash. I couldn't care - I was in hog heaven. A few years later I was (again) snooping around the NAAFI when I saw Airfix's Handley Page 0/400 with the Triplanes boxtop - it was love at first sight. This was all mid to late sixties. I stopped building in the seventies and eighties (rock music was more cool) but started again after I settled down and got married (and not a moment too soon) early nineties. What sparked it the second time was buying the Windsock DR1 Datafile Special at the Hendon Museum. My wife just raised an eyebrow and asked if this was the beginning of something new. It sure was... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 05:20:41 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <36.17083ad.25c418f9@aol.com> My first kit (that I remember) was a bright orange civilian biplane floatplane. I suspect it was HAWK, but I don't know. I don't know what kind of an airplane it was either. My first OT kits were the Renwal Aeroskin aircraft, but I don't know if I finished those or not; later (while my father was stationed in Ethiopia) I definately remember finishing the Airfix Fokker tripe and Brisfit (they came boxed together.) God knows how I managed the Biff struts but I did. My first painted OT kit was the Revell Fokker Triplane, painted a nice metallic blue (the instructions said silvery blue!) Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:32:45 GMT From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An old fart remembers Message-ID: <20000129113245.34485.qmail@hotmail.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Peter Leonard >while ago that the average age on the list is around 42, possibly the only > > time I could claim to be above average in this company, but can we all > > remember what was our first plastic kit and then our first OT kit? I'm proud to declare that my first ever model kit was OT and in the true sclae: the Airfix Albatros DV, molded in a light lilac or light blue plastic -it make sense after seeing so many "Get that Pigeon!" cartoons on the TV-. I didn't painted it, nor put the decals on (I saved them for my already colorful bicycle) and I didn't glued the pilot figure so I could make a bail out of the flaming airplane. I was 5 years old or so. Later, I was stranded in ww2 models... D. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:28:18 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Apologies in order, was Re: News for micro-modelers Message-ID: <3892DCE2.DFCC4110@banet.net> Ken Hagerup asked Albatrosdv: > No public apology to Earl after all the earlier vituperation? > Here, here. The silence from Albatrosdv with respect to his previous slanders is truly stunning and ungentlemanly. Will any of the other members of the Earl-bashing posse step up to the plate and eat a bit of humble pie? It is entirely fitting and rather amusing that Albatrosdv confirms the new NKR report by turning to his previously clueless Eduard 'sources.' Perhaps in the future it will be appropriate for the list moderator to consider personal attacks ot and not to allow them to be aired on this forum. Regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:43:08 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: The first one I did was when I was about four (1975) with my fathers help. The kit was an Airfix Bristol Fighter (IIRC) that had been my grandfathers. My grandfather was a career raffie through the 30's to the 50's and had a bunch of biplane kits, books and his own drawings and paintings. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:00:53 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re: An Old Fart Remembers Message-ID: <005201bf6a58$fbc32600$1ce8b094@sandyada> I too built all the first Airfix bipes as they came out (RE8 struts!!!!), then found the Aurora kits in one local newsagents and realised I had found my lifetime hobby! In the UK the Aurora scouts came in bags and you could see all the black and coloured bits and the groundcrew etc before buying. Then Merit started to copy the Aurora moulds and these were useful alternatives (lacking groundcrew, though) if you couldn't find the Aurora originals. BUT.. the big memory this thread evokes was that each new kit carried announcements of other new releases - so the Airfix "missing parts" slip stated what else was forthcoming and the Aurora kits came three at a time. The Merit ones were all pictured on the kitbox and a name tag on the end told you which was inside. Aha!, so there was an extra 504K to be had! The BIG MOUTHWATERER appeared one day when I visited a cycle shop displaying a stack of Merit boxes and asked the shopkeeper what the endnames were. He listed the usual Camel, DrI, Albatros and then said "DH2". What? My pocketmoney changed hands very quickly and I searched the box out-and-in for mention of it or any other new unannounced releases to come, but to no avail. For weeks afterwards I pestered that poor shopkeeper for what other new Merit goodies might appear, but alas never did find anything else as exciting as that unknown, unexpected, bright green DH2. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:03:45 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Salmson rear office Message-ID: <000501bf6a61$a8f650b0$8d00000a@johnghome> Matt: I use Outlook 2000 and need to save your html posts & reopen with Word in order to read. My guess is that it has something to do with the list processor only passing plain text since OL2000 is html compatible. That said, I enjoy your html posts since they often serve as useful, readable additions to my on-line reference library. Which begs some more questions. What format do you use for your database and have you ever considered web publishing it and/or making it available to fellow listees? From what I've seen it is chock full of valuable reference links that would be valuable to all of us. Maybe turn it into a dynamic document that so all can contribute? Just some thoughts. By all means, keep up the good work. - JG PS This is kind of a delayed response. I was on a trip for a week, returning late yesterday to 282 messages in my WW1 list folder! Just slogging through them this morning. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Matthew Bittner Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 7:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Salmson rear office Here is what I show in my database. One nagging question: do people have a problem when I submit this data in HTML format? Is another format better? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:40:18 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: News for micro-modelers Message-ID: <3892B582.FCED5C09@mail.telepac.pt> mkendix@juno.com wrote: > Tom: > > What is Revell's mode of operation regarding other companies' moulds? Do > they just sit on them like those for the Sopwith TRiplane, Nieuport 28 > etc. or are they likely to pour some plastic into them and produce more > kits? Any news on the fate of the "forthcoming" stuff like the Gothas? > > Michael Michael, I'm a bit afraid of this. Revell Germany as you all know bought the Matchbox moulds and they've re-released some kits under their own brand or under the Matchbox label. The problem is that the best kits of the Matchbox line (the bi-planes, Fury, Siskin, P-12, Buldog) were never released again. Only bipe that came out was the Fairey Seafox . OTOH Toko's production had a very large WW1 content and they were selling, no doubt about it, so maybe Revell can profit from the lesson and not only re-issue toko but also re-tool or make some new OT kits for their own line. I'm sure the market is there, Toko has proved it. Thanks for Toko. Sad to see it go down. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:33:43 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Salmson rear office Message-ID: <200001291436.GAA21796@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:11:37 -0500 (EST), John Glaser wrote: > I use Outlook 2000 and need to save your html posts & reopen with Word in > order to read. My guess is that it has something to do with the list > processor only passing plain text since OL2000 is html compatible. That > said, I enjoy your html posts since they often serve as useful, readable > additions to my on-line reference library. Thank you. > Which begs some more questions. What format do you use for your database > and have you ever considered web publishing it and/or making it available to > fellow listees? From what I've seen it is chock full of valuable reference > links that would be valuable to all of us. Maybe turn it into a dynamic > document that so all can contribute? I have thought about this. And thought about it some more. The problem arises in that I need some serious software on the server side. Since I personally don't have enough money for my own internet server, and with Al's time at a premium, unfortunately it looks like it stays the way it is now. Unless, of course, some other listee on the net has a web server they can give me pretty much free reign in. :-) > Just some thoughts. By all means, keep up the good work. Thanks. There are times I really do wish I could do that. Make it an on-line, full-blown searchable database. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 14:55:28 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? Message-ID: <20000129145528.48642.qmail@hotmail.com> gee Tom, the picture of the guy standing next to it sure looke real to me Peter L ----Original Message Follows---- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1:1 scale Gotha anyone? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:09:11 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 00-01-28 21:59:58 EST, you write: << This is no b.s. maybe possibly perhaps Frank Luke script that may get no further than the inside of an excercise book, this is for real! Check this out folks, and the popcorn's on me. >> Not to bust your bubble, Peter, but did you notice that the "German bomber that isn't any one airplane" is a badly-done Aurora Gotha kit. Also, guys, it would be impossible in the time frame of a movie to tell a story like that that wasn't merely a bunch of "incidents." I hate to tell you this, but if you saw a movie with that kind of structure, you would hate it. This website is what used to be, back in the days before the internet, an expensively-printed multi-color cover on a screenplay. In "da biz," that is a dead giveaway that what is inside the cover is thoroughly amateurish, which that story line and the rest at this site clearly demonstrates. This is something put up by a talentless wannabee. Sorry, I'd like a good OT movie as much as the next guy - and I speak as someone who did write a movie about Frank Luke that did get put into development for about six months 15 years ago before they came to their senses - but from my position as someone who has a bit of a clue how this stuff happens, this is don't-hold-your-breath time. Tom Cleaver ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:02:06 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: C&C(US) help Message-ID: <200001291504.HAA04339@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> Vol 4 No 3 of C&C(US) has "something" in it about the Morane-Saulnier Type AI. Could someone with this issue please tell me what the issue contains on the MoS Type AI, please? TIA! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2114 **********************