WWI Digest 2107 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Aeroclub or Engines n' Things? by "Matt Bailey" 2) Re: 12 Squared by Zulis@aol.com 3) Re: 12 Squared by "Matthew Bittner" 4) Re: News from NKR by "Peter Leonard" 5) Re: Danish -- Help by "Steve Cox" 6) Re: styrene inserts and Casirati magic by "Lance Krieg" 7) Re: News from NKR by Albatrosdv@aol.com 8) [Fwd: Toko] by Pedro e Francisca 9) Re: French Camo Colors by Pedro e Francisca 10) Re: French Camo Colors by "Michael S. Alvarado" 11) Re: [Fwd: Toko] by Zulis@aol.com 12) Re: 12 Squared by Zulis@aol.com 13) Valleycon 10 by "David Calhoun" 14) Re: [Fwd: Toko] by Albatrosdv@aol.com 15) Re: [Fwd: Toko] by Albatrosdv@aol.com 16) Re: 12 Squared by "Bob Pearson" 17) Re: FE2b/d and Dolphin by "Steve Cox" 18) To HTML or Not to HTML, was, Re: Salmson by skarver@banet.net 19) Re: To HTML or Not to HTML, was, Re: Salmson by "Matthew Bittner" 20) there goes another drill bit! by "Lee Rouse" 21) W.29 Interior by bucky@ptdprolog.net 22) NKR rumours by Albatrosdv@aol.com 23) Re: there goes another drill bit! by "Richard Eaton" 24) Re: [Fwd: Toko] by Zulis@aol.com 25) Re: FE2b/d and Dolphin by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Regarding Drill bits posts... by Zulis@aol.com 27) Re: [Fwd: Toko] by Ray_Boorman@telus.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:14:25 -0800 From: "Matt Bailey" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Aeroclub or Engines n' Things? Message-ID: Hello, I am doing Eduard's 1/48 Nieuport (profi-pack)and I am impressed with everything except the engine. I was thinking of doing some scratch building, but there is still that seam to get rid of. I found that Aeroclub and Engines n' Things both make the LeRhone 110 rotary in 1/48. The question is which one? I have not personally seen either one. I know most of Aeroclub's are white metal, but I'm not too thrilled about taking out the seam on each side of the cylinders. I know the Engines n' things makes a resin copy, but I don't know about quality. I've also heard that Rosemont may reissue an Atlee copy, but that probably wont happen until later on this summer. Any suggestions? Thanks, Matt Bailey --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:23:12 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 12 Squared Message-ID: <43.12184b.25be0eb0@aol.com> Matt writes: << If you really want the MoS L, you could buy the HR Resin. Since I have the 12 Squared and the HR, I think the HR is worlds better. Plus, there's a vac (check my page since I can't remember by whom) that may still be around. Trust me. Find something other than the 12 Squared. There is *less* work involved building a vac... >> Are these problems related to accuracy, or "buildability"? If the former, I may still be interested as I am not as particular as many list members are. I have a particular plane in mind (flown by Kolchak's Siberian Air Fleet, 1919) so I actually looked at your site as a starting point. Then, in your review of the resin in IM, you mentioned that the wing was so heavy that the model almost relied on its rigging to hang together, which did not sound promising. On the other hand, if the thing is a beast to put together, that is a different matter entirely. I have a Breguet by Merlin which is so poorly formed that I cannot identify most of the little blobs of plastic as parts - I certainly dont need another one of those. It is hard to believe that this plane is so poorly represented in 1/72. Being used by so many different nations, and with the VC winner and all, you'd think that they would have made one of these before they attacked some other projects. Oh well, the way things have been going these last few years, perhaps I should just wait a bit and something will appear. Gotta love it. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:34:05 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: 12 Squared Message-ID: <200001242035.OAA02308@mail1.neonramp.com> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:27:09 -0500 (EST), Zulis@aol.com wrote: > Are these problems related to accuracy, or "buildability"? If the former, > I may still be interested as I am not as particular as many list members are. Buildability. Anything is buildable (remember we're all modelers around these parts, and not just model builders ("put-her-togetherers"). However, I compared the HR next to the 12, and there is even less work with the HR than the 12. > I have a particular plane in mind (flown by Kolchak's Siberian Air Fleet, > 1919) so I actually looked at your site as a starting point. Then, in your > review of the resin in IM, you mentioned that the wing was so heavy that the > model almost relied on its rigging to hang together, which did not sound > promising. I actually meant that comment in general. I have thinned the wing to at least half its thickness and I don't think there's a problem. The problem lies with all of these "high wing" monoplanes IRT their strutage and rigging. Imagine your typical IPMS judge picking up the kit up it's wing only...that's what I meant. I don't see it necessarily as a weight issue, but one more of "structure" (did that make sense?). > On the other hand, if the thing is a beast to put together, that is a > different matter entirely. I have a Breguet by Merlin which is so poorly > formed that I cannot identify most of the little blobs of plastic as parts - > I certainly dont need another one of those. Really? I have the same Breguet by Merlin and it's one of the better Merlin kits. Sure, most smaller parts will have to be replaced - they usually did during the time frame the Breguet came out - but the larger parts are very decent. > It is hard to believe that this plane is so poorly represented in 1/72. > Being used by so many different nations, and with the VC winner and all, > you'd think that they would have made one of these before they attacked some > other projects. Oh well, the way things have been going these last few > years, perhaps I should just wait a bit and something will appear. Gotta > love it. Ah, but *every single* MoS Type L comes with Warnerford's markings. I still hold by my original thought - the HR is very buildable. However, if you really want a 12 Squared example, I can sell you one of mine. ;-) Matt Bittner http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:37:14 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: News from NKR Message-ID: <20000124203714.64803.qmail@hotmail.com> FWIW, I just spoke to a mate of mine who is "in the trade" and has contact with Pocketbond, Toko's UK importer. Toko are currently Pocketbond's biggest seller and they wish they could get more. The word b0//0ck$!! seems increasingly applicable...I hope. Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:40:25 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Danish -- Help Message-ID: This is a big public thankyou to Knut Erik Hagen, for all the effort he has put into translating two pages of Danish text into English for me. Take a bow, Knut Erik, your efforts are much appreciated Thankyou Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get more models finished ================ > > Steve Cox wrote: > >> Does anyone on the list speak Danish? I bought a Danish Nielsen & Winther >> Type Aa. It comes with sheet of instructions that I can only guess at the >> meaning of. can anyone help with translation? >> >> TAI ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:48:21 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: styrene inserts and Casirati magic Message-ID: Diego has noted some of Alberto Casirati's magic, and asks, among other things: "... a bit of styrene to correct the mid wing cutout. How would you do to glue firmly an insert like that?" I would never presume to answer for Alberto, though I seem to recall he was changing internet service providers and expected to be gone some. I have glued inserts into 1/48 wings without incident, the trick being to provide as much glue surface as possible via a half-lap or other mechanically advantaged joint, and let the cement dry thoroughly while the joint is squeezed together. The other question Diego asked I, too, would like answered. It seems evident that Alberto thins large sections of the fuselage to a very fine profile before inserting the interior structure. What do you use to do this - sandpaper? Alberto, you seem willing to create the entire interior, even if most of it is permanently invisible after the fuselage halves are joined. This is AMS on an inspired scale, for which I salute you! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:19:44 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: News from NKR Message-ID: <1c.6fde74.25be2a00@aol.com> In a message dated 00-01-24 15:40:30 EST, you write: << FWIW, I just spoke to a mate of mine who is "in the trade" and has contact with Pocketbond, Toko's UK importer. Toko are currently Pocketbond's biggest seller and they wish they could get more. The word b0//0ck$!! seems increasingly applicable...I hope. Peter L >> I just checked with Scott Hards at HLJ, and regarding the Tamiya rumor trans-Pacific laughter was heard so loud I didn't need the e-mail. Earl appears to have emitted a brain fart (no put-down, we all do it on occasions). Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:55:06 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: WW1 modeling list Subject: [Fwd: Toko] Message-ID: <388CD849.1CC19D36@mail.telepac.pt> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CD2434AA7EB045B1B9DB7060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got this from Earl Martell (NKR) Pedro --------------CD2434AA7EB045B1B9DB7060 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from kitty.netconnect.com.au ([203.7.198.1]) by fep03-svc.mail.telepac.pt (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000124191320.MIRS1671.fep03-svc.mail.telepac.pt@kitty.netconnect.com.au> for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:13:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 12046 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2000 19:11:14 -0000 Received: from bal-as1-p35.netconnect.net.au (HELO LOCALNAME) (203.87.44.35) by mail.netconnect.com.au with SMTP; 24 Jan 2000 19:11:14 -0000 Message-ID: <388DAEA9.48E2@netconnect.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:09:45 -0800 From: "Earl. Martell." Reply-To: nkrmodel@netconnect.com.au Organization: N.K.R. MODELS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nkrmodel@netconnect.com.au Subject: Toko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 More on the Toko 'affair'...and I have been told the former Toko model makers have set up a new (as yet un-named) company which will produce all of Toko's 'promised' new releases! Toko itself is now trying to sell the moulds for it's current line of kits...but as it's assetts have been frozen that might be left to the liquidators and could take some time...but ICM is interested! The following items are due in today:- MPM 1/72 Ryan PT-20 @$15 MPM 1/72 P-51A reconn. @$15 WWP Westland Sea King in detail @$22 WWP Steyr 1500A in detail @$19 WWP Wireless for Wehrm @$17 Planet 1/72 SAM-2 guideline missile @$39 Planet 1/72 Kfz.385 truck @$39 Planet 1/72 Opel Blitz T.Stoffankwagen @$39 CMK 1/48 F-84 interior set @$13 CMK 1/48 JU-52 engine set @$40 CMK 1/48 Ramjager conversion (for FW-190A) @$23 CMK 1/48 BMW 132 engine @$13 CMK 1/48 P-12E/F4B4 exterior set @$13 --------------CD2434AA7EB045B1B9DB7060-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:11:45 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: French Camo Colors Message-ID: <388CCE1D.EB1EBA23@mail.telepac.pt> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/24/00 3:10:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, > tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > > << > Not really. Lately I've been re-reading Project Butterfly, and > the only thing said about that is it definitely wouldn't be > noticed in modeling scales. There may have been a slight "sheen" > difference in 1:1 scale, but not noticeable for modeling. > >> > > Too my eye, the lack of aluminum in at least 1/48 is noticable. When I mix > these colors, I usually take a wad of the stuff from the bottom of the bottle > of some metalizer paint and toss it in the mix. Most references say that the > metal powder did NOT result in a "metal flake" effect-but opacity was > increased, and a slight "de-hueing". Reading all this good stuff by Robert and all of you guys has made me wonder again about how accurate is the finish of the Le Bourget Spad XIII. I have some photos of it that I'll send Al and once they're on-line we'll discuss this because either the finish is way off or the aluminium would show even in 1/144. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:22:50 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: French Camo Colors Message-ID: <388CDECA.E7EB0A9A@bellatlantic.net> As an experiment , when building my Hanriot HD I last year, I added flat alumunum to the colors I mixed for the French 5-color scheme used on Coppen's bird. In 1/48 scale there was very little effect; a slight washing-out of the darker colors (chocolate and dark green) and even less effect on the lighter colors (light green and beige). Still, since I mixed a bunch of each color, I will use them on my next French 5-color projects. Alvie Pedro e Francisca wrote: > KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/24/00 3:10:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > > > > << > > Not really. Lately I've been re-reading Project Butterfly, and > > the only thing said about that is it definitely wouldn't be > > noticed in modeling scales. There may have been a slight "sheen" > > difference in 1:1 scale, but not noticeable for modeling. > > >> > > > > Too my eye, the lack of aluminum in at least 1/48 is noticable. When I mix > > these colors, I usually take a wad of the stuff from the bottom of the bottle > > of some metalizer paint and toss it in the mix. Most references say that the > > metal powder did NOT result in a "metal flake" effect-but opacity was > > increased, and a slight "de-hueing". > > Reading all this good stuff by Robert and all of you guys has made me wonder > again about how accurate is the finish of the Le Bourget Spad XIII. I have some > photos of it that I'll send Al and once they're on-line we'll discuss this > because either the finish is way off or the aluminium would show even in 1/144. > > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:47:14 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Toko] Message-ID: <4.b6a456.25be3e82@aol.com> Pedro writes: << Just got this from Earl Martell (NKR) " More on the Toko 'affair'...and I have been told the former Toko model makers have set up a new (as yet un-named) company which will produce all of Toko's 'promised' new releases! Toko itself is now trying to sell the moulds for it's current line of kits...but as it's assetts have been frozen that might be left to the liquidators and could take some time...but ICM is interested!" >> How is it that this Earl guy seems to be the only one who has heard anything about this? Not only the original news, but now further details (if true). If this whole thing were true, wouldnt word go through the entire industry at the speed of cyber-light? Freezing the assets of a company as active as Toko doesnt stay secret for long. Granting that Earl is a decent guy - could somebody be doing a really good job of yanking his chain? I still cant believe that one of the few companies from the former soviet bloc countries that has a product the rest of the world is clamoring for could possibly go under.... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:59:49 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 12 Squared Message-ID: <61.10ac4ea.25be4175@aol.com> Matt writes: << Buildability. Anything is buildable (remember we're all modelers around these parts, and not just model builders ("put-her-togetherers"). However, I compared the HR next to the 12, and there is even less work with the HR than the 12. >> OK, then that settles it for me. I thought that if it was one of those "the wing is a smidgeon too long" type things I could just plow on and not be bothered by it. But if it is fundamentally flawed, I will leave it to those more masochistic than I. << I actually meant that comment in general. I have thinned the wing to at least half its thickness and I don't think there's a problem. The problem lies with all of these "high wing" monoplanes IRT their strutage and rigging. Imagine your typical IPMS judge picking up the kit up it's wing only...that's what I meant. I don't see it necessarily as a weight issue, but one more of "structure" (did that make sense?). >> Completely. A type of design that is tricky to hang together in any case. < snip > << Really? I have the same Breguet by Merlin and it's one of the better Merlin kits. Sure, most smaller parts will have to be replaced - they usually did during the time frame the Breguet came out - but the larger parts are very decent. >> I recall a list member speculating that this kit seemed to get worse as the "run" went on. If this is the case, then I surely must have got the last kit they made. I was not exaggerating when I said that most of the parts are unrecognizable (fuselage and wings can be recognized, but I spent a half day cleaning up 1/2 of the fuselage and it still looked like hell). I saw Brad Gossen's kit of the same when I visited him recently and his kit is far better than mine as well, so if you have a good one, and his is fair, and mine is terrible, there may be something to that deteriorating quality theory. As for me, I eventually put it away and purchased the Pegasus kit instead. Thanks for the input, Matt. I will trust your judgement on this one, and hope that Toko hangs around long enough to make a good one for us. :-) Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:06:47 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Valleycon 10 Message-ID: <000301bf6873$8dae4780$be3c3ccc@oemcomputer> This message is for all East coast/New England modelers. Wings & Wheels Modelers is having their 10th annual contest on Sunday March 26, 9:00am to 4:00 pm. It will be at the Knights of Columbus, 460 Granby Road. Chicopee Massachusetts. We have a separate category for rigged aircraft. I am also sponsoring the Albert Calhoun award (a veteran of the 26th Infantry Div. 1918) for the best World War I - air, land or sea model. anyone that needs directions or more info can e-mail our president, Al LaFleche at ajlafleche@aol.com Hope to see some more of you, I know Dave V and Tom Darcey are planning on attending, how about the New Hampshire connection Allen? Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:21:42 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Toko] Message-ID: <63.c7cb93.25be4696@aol.com> In a message dated 00-01-24 18:48:50 EST, you write: << How is it that this Earl guy seems to be the only one who has heard anything about this? Not only the original news, but now further details (if true). If this whole thing were true, wouldnt word go through the entire industry at the speed of cyber-light? Freezing the assets of a company as active as Toko doesnt stay secret for long. Granting that Earl is a decent guy - could somebody be doing a really good job of yanking his chain? >> Not only that, but NKR is just a bit of distance away from the scene, and absolutely no one I know at either Eduard or ICM (both of whom I e-mailed today) had heard a whisper of this. I think Earl has been taken in by someone. There is absolutely *no* independent confirmation of these rumors by anyone else in the model business, and it is small enough that they would all know by now, believe me. Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:27:07 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Toko] Message-ID: In a message dated 00-01-24 18:48:50 EST, you write: << How is it that this Earl guy seems to be the only one who has heard anything about this? Not only the original news, but now further details (if true). If this whole thing were true, wouldnt word go through the entire industry at the speed of cyber-light? Freezing the assets of a company as active as Toko doesnt stay secret for long. Granting that Earl is a decent guy - could somebody be doing a really good job of yanking his chain? >> If I was anyone on this list who knows Earl, I would additionally be very quick to tell him to drop this. He has no backup information on this rumor, and it has now spread literally around the world, to the detriment of every company that was mentioned, and most particularly Toko, a company I doubt is in as good a position as Accurate Miniatures was to survive the slander campaign that was waged against them this fall. A-M has people tracking down the sources of those rumors, and lawyers ready to be let from their leashes when the prey is discovered. Toko right now has a good case against Earl if this rumor does any harm to their business. His business is at risk. He should be advised to issue an update that he does not know for sure and that he is retracting what was said. And the rest should take this to heart that the internet is *not* just our private little chatroom to emit brainfarts at will. As business becomes more involved with the internet, those kinds of activities are going to result in doors being knocked on and suits being served. Developing a little self-discpline now is not going to be a bad thing in the future. Not meant to be a lecture, but believe me when I tell you that business does not take this electronic "over the back fence" lightly. Best, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:25:27 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 12 Squared Message-ID: <200001250028.QAA04578@mail.rapidnet.net> Dave Z says about the Merlin Breguet.... > I saw > Brad Gossen's kit of the same when I visited him recently and his kit is far > better than mine as well, so if you have a good one, and his is fair, and > mine is terrible, Whaaaa .. that was my kit, but I had to sell it to Brad so I could afford to eat on our last two days in Washington for the 1996 OTF seminar. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:08:36 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FE2b/d and Dolphin Message-ID: Subjects are scanned and on my website. FE2 has its own page, Dolphin added to the Sopwith page. Upload done but not tested. Warning - these birds are naked. Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get more models finished ================ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:26:26 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: To HTML or Not to HTML, was, Re: Salmson Message-ID: <388CFBC2.B182780F@banet.net> Good evening-- Matthew Bittner wrote: > One nagging question: do > people have a problem when I submit this data in HTML format? Is > another format better? > > > Modeling Publications >
I don't consider myself particularly clumsy, but = I've managed=20 to break off 3 #80 bits while drilling through the wings on my Eduard = Albatros.=20 Any suggestions for how to get the job done without exhausting my supply = of=20 drill bits? Would a slightly larger bit work just as well and not be so=20 susceptible to breakage?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF66AF.B8066500-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:14:39 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: W.29 Interior Message-ID: <388D070F.13E1B993@ptdprolog.net> Jusr finished a 1/72 Nieuport...tried to bastardize a revel Kit and the Toko one, jusr for the heck of it......not a pretty sight. Anyway, I'm starting the Flashback W.29 in 1/48. I've looked in the Datafile, but there isn't much on interiors. Anyone have any other ideas? Mike Muth nl: Best of Tom Rush ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:17:28 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: NKR rumours Message-ID: Hi, all: After reading the rumor, I contacted Scott Hards regarding the Tamiya rumor. Below is my question and Scott's answer. I think a similar note will apply to the Toko rumor. Tom Cleaver >Earl at NKR hobbies has, in his e-mail newsletter, stated that Tamiya is >having financial problems and that therefore the newly-to-be released >floatplane version of the Swordfish will be sold only in Japan or >internationally via the Internet from the Tamiya website. > >To me, this sounds suspiciously like a brain fart, but I thought I would >check with someone a bit closer to the source and find out. >Tom Cleaver Tom: Massive Brain Fart. The full explanation is on our site. Just search for the floatplane but use our search engine and make sure you tell it to look for discontinued items as well. This has NOTHING to do with financial problems, and if Tamiya was having such problems, limiting distribution of something is exactly the opposite of what one would want to do. The short explanation is that Tamiya is using this kit as a testbed for direct net sales here in Japan only. The kit will be sold NORMALLY overseas. Best regards, Scott T. Hards President, HobbyLink Japan http://www.hlj.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:20:07 -0600 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: there goes another drill bit! Message-ID: <000801bf66da$b3f8e480$ad305d18@austin.rr.com> Only three bits Lee? Slow down, keep the drill completely perpendicular to the surface, don't apply so much pressure. A new bit should drill through with very little pressure. Kind of a touchy feely thing, but once you get it down you break fewer bits. A lot of times you can get away with a #79 bit though it is not much stonger than a #80. Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Rouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 8:17 PM Subject: there goes another drill bit! > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF66AF.B8066500 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I don't consider myself particularly clumsy, but I've managed to break = > off 3 #80 bits while drilling through the wings on my Eduard Albatros. = > Any suggestions for how to get the job done without exhausting my supply = > of drill bits? Would a slightly larger bit work just as well and not be = > so susceptible to breakage? > > Lee > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF66AF.B8066500 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
I don't consider myself particularly clumsy, but = > I've managed=20 > to break off 3 #80 bits while drilling through the wings on my Eduard = > Albatros.=20 > Any suggestions for how to get the job done without exhausting my supply = > of=20 > drill bits? Would a slightly larger bit work just as well and not be so=20 > susceptible to breakage?
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF66AF.B8066500-- > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:26:06 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Toko] Message-ID: Tom writes: << If I was anyone on this list who knows Earl, I would additionally be very quick to tell him to drop this. He has no backup information on this rumor, and it has now spread literally around the world, to the detriment of every company that was mentioned, and most particularly Toko, a company I doubt is in as good a position as Accurate Miniatures was to survive the slander campaign that was waged against them this fall. A-M has people tracking down the sources of those rumors, and lawyers ready to be let from their leashes when the prey is discovered. Toko right now has a good case against Earl if this rumor does any harm to their business. His business is at risk. He should be advised to issue an update that he does not know for sure and that he is retracting what was said. And the rest should take this to heart that the internet is *not* just our private little chatroom to emit brainfarts at will. As business becomes more involved with the internet, those kinds of activities are going to result in doors being knocked on and suits being served. >> Well, I dont think this thing has been slanderous by any definition. I dont know Earl's own attitude, but all that this has created has been many expressions of support for Toko and hopes that it is not true. What's more, if it turned out to be true, I think a few of us would have scurried out there and picked up extra copies of the Nieuports and Strutters.... As for guys in suits knocking on my door - bring em on. I really doubt that such a suit would have jurisdiction here, but even if it did, I am glad I dont live in a country where I can get in trouble for open honest discussion, even if some of it is speculative. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:34:41 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FE2b/d and Dolphin Message-ID: <62.e1ce8f.25be65c1@aol.com> In a message dated 1/24/00 4:37:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk writes: << Warning - these birds are naked. >> Your tasteful nude shots of the FE2 pod are really nice! RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:38:50 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Regarding Drill bits posts... Message-ID: <96.437ff3.25be66ba@aol.com> The recent posts regarding "there goes another drill bit" came out as totally black on my screen, both the original post and the reply to it. I dont understand the computer code stuff, but thought you would want to know. I doubt it was a problem with my system, as all other posts have been fine. DZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:43:05 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Toko] Message-ID: <200001250243.SAA28549@smtpout.telus.net> Pedro quoted from NKR >More on the Toko 'affair'...and I have been told the former Toko model >makers have set up a new (as yet un-named) company which will produce >all of Toko's 'promised' new releases! Toko itself is now trying to sell >the moulds for it's current line of kits...but as it's assetts have been >frozen that might be left to the liquidators and could take some >time...but ICM is interested! > The one thing that keeps coming to mind with me are all the rumours that nearly wiped out Accurate Miniatures (some from very legitimate sources). Another that comes to mind is some distributor trying to start a buying frenzy it is that time of year when they would like to clear their inventories yah know. I hope its either of those, since I was planning on buying one or two Gotha's Ray ================================================= ================ Internet service provided by telus.net http://www.telus.net/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2107 **********************