WWI Digest 2103 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Lufbery's Nieuport 17 by "Matthew Bittner" 2) Re: Market sizes by "DAVID BURKE" 3) Re: failing your duty!! by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Re: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII by "Nigel Rayner" 5) Re: Fame at last? by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII by Zulis@aol.com 7) RE: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII by "John Glaser" 8) Re: Dolphin Interiors by "Steve Cox" 9) Re: Vice Squad.... er.... vise squad by "Steve Cox" 10) Lurking RMS by smperry@mindspring.com 11) RE: Market sizes by Shane Weier 12) Re: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII by "Lee Mensinger" 13) Re: Market sizes by "Lee Mensinger" 14) Re: Lurking RMS by "Matthew Bittner" 15) Re: Lurking RMS by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 16) Re: Lurking RMS by "Bob Pearson" 17) Re: Lurking RMS and more. by "Mike Fanklin" 18) Re: Lurking RMS and more. by ERIC HIGHT 19) Re: Lurking RMS and more. by "Bob Pearson" 20) RE: Vice Squad.... er.... vise squad by Shane Weier 21) Re: Lurking RMS and more. by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 22) Custom decs.from Modelhound was Re: Lurking RMS and more. by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: Lurking RMS and more. by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: Dolphin Interiors by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: Not Really OT, But ... by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Re: e-bay by KarrArt@aol.com 27) Re: Lurking RMS and more. by Albatrosdv@aol.com 28) Champlin Museum by cfrieden@calpoly.edu 29) Re: RTV by "David Vosburgh" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:31:12 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Lufbery's Nieuport 17 Message-ID: <200001221833.KAA09961@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> I had a chance to view the side view of the Lufberry photo. Unfortunately it does not show the rudder. However, there is enough - indeed, all - of the Indian head showing that I would agree with Americal that the stripes are red. Sure, you can still speculate black, but there was not a lot of black in the first Indian head painting, and the face did have a lot of red in it. Although Dicta Ira would say "do what makes you feel comfortable", I'm comfortable with red. :-) HTH... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:01:32 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Market sizes Message-ID: <013c01bf650e$1ab23f60$2293aec7@dora9sprynet.com> > How many Kawasaki T.4's do you think will sell in the US (I know, I know, >damn few on this list) because the majority of American modelers don't even >know what it is and fewer know that the Blue Impulse are the Japanese version >of the Thunderbirds/Blue Angels/Snowbirds/Red Arrows? O got one. Neat little plane, nice kit too. Not enough wings though. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:03:23 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: failing your duty!! Message-ID: <013d01bf650e$1b959a80$2293aec7@dora9sprynet.com> > As administrator I will have to site you for abuse of the list. > Your post failed to have any WWI modeling content. > > -Al (joke) Cite. DB (a joke in his own right) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:10:54 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII Message-ID: <001801bf6514$ca3fe6c0$8b49883e@nigelr> Hi all, First, many thanks to Pedro and Lance for the help - I'll be able to finish this baby accurately now, provided I can get past the struts. I was going to recommend this to Dave as a way of bypassing rigging, but the struts are so bad (as many have pointed out), it's a case of build them yourself and the starstrut assembly is a bit of a fiddle. BTW Dave, try the Eduard 1/72 EV/DVIII - virtually no rigging on this, and it's a great kit. I just received the Gavia Fokker DII from Hanannt's. Without stealing too much thunder from IM, this is a good looking kit, well on a par with early Eduard. The struts need refining, the elevators are too thick but overall it's a good kit of a good looking plane (if not a very good performer). I don't have the Fokker fighters special yet, so haven't laid it against any plans, but add a CSM Oberursel, Spandau and instruments, and you have the potential for a great model. Let's hope this is the first of many from this producer. In the same order, I also got the Eduard WWI instrument set. Talk about value for money - British, French and German instruments in 1/48. Highly recommended. If only they would only do the same in 1/72 for those of us who swing both ways (or like Matt, whose pendulum got stuck on the dark side), the world would be an even better place. Cheers, Nigel nb: Toko Pfalz DXII and Toko HB D1 nu: Confused - was going to be Eduard Nie 17, but sooooo tempted by the DII........ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:14:10 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fame at last? Message-ID: <200001222034.MAA30307@mail.rapidnet.net> Sure .. you just rub the cat and watch the sparks .... .. looks real cool in the dark . . ---------- >From: Albatrosdv@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Fame at last? >Date: Sat, 22 Jan, 2000, 10:19 AM > > In a message dated 00-01-22 03:16:46 EST, Legs writes: > > << hmm, we've been spoiled. . both of the comets a couple years ago were > visible within city limits ... and now this. .. >> > > There's *electricity* up there???? :-) > > Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:41:40 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII Message-ID: <34.828568.25bb7004@aol.com> Nigel writes, << BTW Dave, try the Eduard 1/72 EV/DVIII - virtually no rigging on this, and it's a great kit. >> Thanks, Nigel - yes, I have that kit. And, as I believe it was used late in the war and on the eastern front, it fits in with what I am doing right now (modelling planes that flew in the Baltic region). But I cant avoid the rigging forever (I have about as many DVII and DR.Is as anybody could possibly use!) I have to take the plunge - which is what I have been doing this past week. Besides, ultimately I will have to face an Ilya. I recently learned that a lot of the development of this plane took place smack in the middle of my geographic area of interest. However, that is many, many models down the road from now.... I bought the HB D1 kit when it came out, but probably wont get to that one for awhile now. Good luck with yours! Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:51:46 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII Message-ID: <000001bf6522$e2100f60$8d00000a@johnghome> Just got my D.II today also. I second everything Nigel said. - JG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:08:26 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dolphin Interiors Message-ID: I have some shots of the Dolphin replica being built for the RAF Museum. These show the fuselage frame and bracing. Taken last year at the airship sheds at Cardington. Some show the two fuel tanks in position in the fuselage. LMK if they're of interest Regards Steve Also have two shots of an FE2b/d (not sure which) fuselage in much the shape if anyone's interested. =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get more models finished ================ ---------- >From: "David Vosburgh" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Dolphin Interiors >Date: Sat, Jan 22, 2000, 2:05 am > > Can anyone tell me whether the Dolphin's interior was open aft of the seat? > I don't have > any decent cockpit shots of the original (only Palen's replica), but on > some of the photos > I have it looks like the area behind the pilot's head is blanked off with > cloth or ply... > some of the drawings I have seem to show an oval opening in this area as well. I'm > basically trying to determine whether the aux./main fuel tanks and rear > fuselage framework > would've been visible. > > Any and all help gratefully appreciated, as always. > > All best, > > DV > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:54:12 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Vice Squad.... er.... vise squad Message-ID: I stand the model I am rigging on a box about 18" high and 7" square. This makes a platform which brings everything up to eye level. It also makes hanging a peg to tension the monofilament easy. And the model has only 18" to fall. :-) Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get more models finished ================ ---------- >From: "Michael Kendix" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Vice Squad.... er.... vise squad >Date: Sat, Jan 22, 2000, 12:27 am > >>From: "Lance Krieg" >>Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > >> >>I usually find myself using a kit box corner to prop the plane in the >>position of the moment, and I think most others will confess to the same >>practice... which explains why so many report that they have dropped the >>model or knocked it off the table. >> > > Lance: > > I use cassette tapes, stacked to whatever height I need. Also good for > jigging up when putting on the top wing. > > Michael > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:06:46 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Lurking RMS Message-ID: <001c01bf652d$5b909940$030a56d1@default> Lurking RMS pays off sometimes. I responded to a fellow's request for help finding WWI decals. I ponted him to A/G and the List web page. I got this response: sp Hello, Steven: MANY thanks for your email, the information is most useful. I will send off for the decal catalog first thing Monday. I will visit the website you included in your email, so that I can learn more about WW1 modeling. It has been an area that has been of interest to me for many years, but only this year have I decided to take the plunge. We see very few WW1 models at Seattle area contests, so I have taken it upon myself to be a one man crusade! Again, thanks for all your input. Cheers, Andrew B E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:30:51 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Market sizes Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C1D@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom, > << and this > still excludes the toy departments in maybe a couple of dozen K-Mart, > Woolworths, Target etc. >> > > K-Mart and Target here in S. California do not sell models. > Not even cars. They still do here. Not a massive range but Target in particular usually has a couple of aisles. Woolworths too, through the Big-W stores (and in fact that's where I'd go for many of the Tamiya aircraft if I wanted them, since they frequently sell them at way under the normal prices) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:46:52 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HB D1 Help, Gavia Fokker DII Message-ID: <388A416B.6D063865@wireweb.net> The E-V/DVIII only had "support" rigging between the landing gear legs. The cable on top of the cowling goes into the wings and it is the aileron control system cables. All the other outside wires were for the other control elements on the tail of the plane. One novel thing is the fact that the control column protruded outside, under the fuselage, and it has a cable going upwards, and then, back inside the fuselage to the elevators. This is visible in the photos and drawings in Fighter Aircratf of the 1914-1918 War, Harleyford, by Lamberton and Cheesemann. Lee M Zulis@aol.com wrote: > Nigel writes, > > << BTW Dave, try the Eduard 1/72 EV/DVIII - virtually no rigging on this, > and it's a great kit. >> > > Thanks, Nigel - yes, I have that kit. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:57:41 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Market sizes Message-ID: <388A43F5.4285B981@wireweb.net> Shane, The Texas tourist bureau has been asked to forward the new copy to you and the nice lady said it would take about three weeks or maybe a little more to arrive in your place. She seemed pleased to get the request. She read back every letter of your address and then said they ship them all over the world and she believes you will really enjoy it. It is supposed to be the best one so far. Thay also wanted to know if you had any special interests and I told her you were like me, an Aviation "junkie", and would love to visit every place that had an Aircraft Museum especially those with WW I planes. She may send other items like brochures and such things. Maybe you could let me know when it arrives. Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:55:07 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Lurking RMS Message-ID: <200001222357.PAA00035@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:11:33 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > I will visit the website you included in your email, so that I can learn > more about WW1 modeling. It has been an area that has been of interest to > me for many years, but only this year have I decided to take the plunge. We > see very few WW1 models at Seattle area contests, so I have taken it upon > myself to be a one man crusade! Although he doesn't compete a lot, there is a fellow listee in Seattle with Erik Pilawskii. He is not alone - even though Erik concentrates more on VVS. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:08:46 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lurking RMS Message-ID: <200001230008.QAA08954@smtpout.telus.net> Also fellow list member Mike Franklin is in the Seattle Area and he goes to Seattle Shows or did. Ray On 22 Jan 00, at 19:02, Matthew Bittner wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:11:33 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com > wrote: > > > I will visit the website you included in your email, so that I can > > learn more about WW1 modeling. It has been an area that has been of > > interest to me for many years, but only this year have I decided to > > take the plunge. We see very few WW1 models at Seattle area > > contests, so I have taken it upon myself to be a one man crusade! > > Although he doesn't compete a lot, there is a fellow listee in > Seattle with Erik Pilawskii. He is not alone - even though Erik > concentrates more on VVS. > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:18:21 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lurking RMS Message-ID: <200001230120.RAA04671@mail.rapidnet.net> Gee, Chris B-R went and saw a certain 1/24 scale DH9 that resides in a Seattle domicile last week. ... and I know there are other list members in that vicinity as well. Bob ---------- >From: "Matthew Bittner" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Lurking RMS >Date: Sat, 22 Jan, 2000, 4:02 PM > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:11:33 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com > wrote: > >> I will visit the website you included in your email, so that I can learn >> more about WW1 modeling. It has been an area that has been of interest to >> me for many years, but only this year have I decided to take the plunge. We >> see very few WW1 models at Seattle area contests, so I have taken it upon >> myself to be a one man crusade! > > Although he doesn't compete a lot, there is a fellow listee in > Seattle with Erik Pilawskii. He is not alone - even though Erik > concentrates more on VVS. > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:26:58 -0800 From: "Mike Fanklin" To: Subject: Re: Lurking RMS and more. Message-ID: <001601bf6541$0fec7ea0$4cecfc9e@default> Ray Boorman wrote: > Also fellow list member Mike Franklin is in the Seattle Area and he > goes to Seattle Shows or did. > > Ray I write: The truth be known, I live 90 miles north of Seattle, though I do go to all their contests, and quite a few of their meetings. Actually, I'm closer to Vancouver, B.C., Canada and go to their meetings more often. as well as all their contests. I'm sure that the "Andrew B" mentioned in previous dispatches is Andrew Birkbeck, formerly IPMS Seattle President and the spark plug behind the IPMS Nationals held in Seattle a few years back. Darn good all around modeler, Andrew is. A transplanted New Zealander if I'm not too mis-"staken". (Note WW-1 content :^) ). There are more than a few excellent WW-1 modelers in the Pacific Northwet (sic), who for some reason choose not to participate in 'The List'. Although the numbers of contest entries are not large, I am continually amazed at the quality of the models shown. Well built and really accurate in technical corrections, colors and markings. On a further note, scuttlebutt around here is that the Seattle Museum Of Flight has purchased the complete Champlin Fighter museum and is building a 6 acre addition (space donated by Boeing) to house the collection. Many WW-1 subjects to be seen in this bunch, including the way cool Berg D.I with a polished brass radiator. For those of you who have managed to wade through the above chatter, I have completed the artwork for the Austro-Hungarian Swirl pattern decals. Test printing have been made and the results are spectacular. For a free sample in any scale, e-mail me your address and choice of scale, and I'll get a swatch off to you post haste. Full sheets will be available for sale on a custom printed order basis so I can change the colors if you think you have a better idea of what you want. I am also accepting custom decal orders for almost anything, so let me know your wants. Some of my Ideas include Palmer Aero Cord tire markings, Manufacturers markings, propeller logos, serial numbers, full markings set ups, etc. Ask Ernest about the Pitts decals I made for him. I have gotten a pretty good handle on Corel Draw now, so I can make Vector drawings of most anything. Perfect register, and no jagged edges. Some colors are a bit dodgey, but we'll try anything. Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:47:13 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lurking RMS and more. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000122184713.009d0110@pop.amug.org> mike, it's not rumor about champlin. it was in wed or thurs paper this week that seattle bought all the a/c and will be moving them up your way in about three years. doug champlin has been trying to sell the a/c for years and i guess seattle came up with what he wanted. a major loss for phx. and a huge gain for seattle. i will be sad to see them go but at least they are not being scrapped or sold off in pieces. eric At 08:34 PM 1/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >Ray Boorman wrote: > >> Also fellow list member Mike Franklin is in the Seattle Area and he >> goes to Seattle Shows or did. >> >> Ray > >I write: >The truth be known, I live 90 miles north of Seattle, though I do go to all >their contests, and quite a few of their meetings. Actually, I'm closer to >Vancouver, B.C., Canada and go to their meetings more often. as well as all >their contests. I'm sure that the "Andrew B" mentioned in previous >dispatches is Andrew Birkbeck, formerly IPMS Seattle President and the spark >plug behind the IPMS Nationals held in Seattle a few years back. Darn good >all around modeler, Andrew is. A transplanted New Zealander if I'm not too >mis-"staken". (Note WW-1 content :^) ). >There are more than a few excellent WW-1 modelers in the Pacific Northwet >(sic), who for some reason choose not to participate in 'The List'. >Although the numbers of contest entries are not large, I am continually >amazed at the quality of the models shown. Well built and really accurate >in technical corrections, colors and markings. > >On a further note, scuttlebutt around here is that the Seattle Museum Of >Flight has purchased the complete Champlin Fighter museum and is building a >6 acre addition (space donated by Boeing) to house the collection. Many >WW-1 subjects to be seen in this bunch, including the way cool Berg D.I with >a polished brass radiator. > >For those of you who have managed to wade through the above chatter, I have >completed the artwork for the Austro-Hungarian Swirl pattern decals. Test >printing have been made and the results are spectacular. For a free sample >in any scale, e-mail me your address and choice of scale, and I'll get a >swatch off to you post haste. Full sheets will be available for sale on a >custom printed order basis so I can change the colors if you think you have >a better idea of what you want. > >I am also accepting custom decal orders for almost anything, so let me know >your wants. Some of my Ideas include Palmer Aero Cord tire markings, >Manufacturers markings, propeller logos, serial numbers, full markings set >ups, etc. Ask Ernest about the Pitts decals I made for him. > >I have gotten a pretty good handle on Corel Draw now, so I can make Vector >drawings of most anything. Perfect register, and no jagged edges. Some >colors are a bit dodgey, but we'll try anything. > > > >Mike Franklin >Bellingham, WA > >"No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit." > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:03:00 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lurking RMS and more. Message-ID: <200001230203.SAA05672@mail.rapidnet.net> Eric of CSM sayeth >" it's not rumor about champlin." COOL !!!!!!! Means chances are good for us to have an OTF seminar in Seattle in a couple of years ..... Guess us west coast types need to start planning the list party ... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:18 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Vice Squad.... er.... vise squad Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C1F@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lance, > I usually find myself using a kit box corner to prop the > plane in the position of the moment, and I think most others > will confess to the same practice... which explains why so > many report that they have dropped the model or knocked it > off the table. Not me. My technique for dropping small models - glue end of monofilament, thread through second hole. Pick up model by loose end of rigging so that weight of model tightens thread and position allows easy access for second drop of CyA to be assisted by gravity.......... Discover that first end of rigging was not *quite* glued tight. Why I did this stupid thing beats me ( I usually hang self closing tweekers on the tread to tauten it) - but it happened :-( Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:38:38 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lurking RMS and more. Message-ID: <200001230238.SAA22535@smtpout.telus.net> Hey this is great news at least for me, Seattle is only a border crossing and a bit more than 2 hours drive away, now if only Canuck dollars were = US dollars I'd be really happy. Ray On 22 Jan 00, at 21:08, Bob Pearson wrote: > Eric of CSM sayeth > > >" it's not rumor about champlin." > > COOL !!!!!!! Means chances are good for us to have an OTF seminar in > Seattle in a couple of years ..... Guess us west coast types need to > start planning the list party ... > > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 1980 20:40:40 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Custom decs.from Modelhound was Re: Lurking RMS and more. Message-ID: <12D6B4A7.55F85C02@bellsouth.net> Mike Fanklin wrote: > Ask Ernest about the Pitts decals I made for him. I was holding off on this until I had some pictures to show. But yes, Mike made me a set of decals for a 1/72 Pitts Special in factory paint, which is no small thing for those unfamiliar. First class stuff. I'll gladly recomend "Modelhound"(tm)brand decals to anyone who's looking for custom decal work. Btw, Mike, you never did get back to me on the status report. Is it possible to print the image twice? And are you ready do make a set for a Christen Eagle? I'm planning on a conversion. Which reminds me, if you guys could keep an eye out for me whenever y'all are in the hobby shops, I'm looking for more of these 1/72 Pitts models from LS. Lmk if y'all come across any. I'd prefer the version molded in white, but either one will do. Thanks. And to keep this OT, I'm just finishing up the TOKO Berg done up in some colors I made up myself. DICTA IRA!!! E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:27:29 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lurking RMS and more. Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/00 5:54:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, copperst@sd.amug.org writes: << it's not rumor about champlin. it was in wed or thurs paper this week that seattle bought all the a/c and will be moving them up your way in about three years. >> I....am.....depressed........ RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:27:30 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dolphin Interiors Message-ID: <52.87f63d.25bbdd32@aol.com> In a message dated 1/22/00 2:21:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk writes: << Regards Steve Also have two shots of an FE2b/d (not sure which) fuselage in much the shape if anyone's interested. >> ALWAYS interested! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:27:31 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Not Really OT, But ... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/00 6:56:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, THENRYS@aol.com writes: << Not wanting to toot the family horn too much, but I've been trying to get caught back up with the list after the wonderful arrival our our first child. >> Good news! Always a good thing when a list member spawns! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:27:32 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: e-bay Message-ID: <70.9c1cbd.25bbdd34@aol.com> In a message dated 1/22/00 12:25:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt writes: << Boy, really have to pass the info to my friend. He bought it some year ago for the equivalent of less than one dollar IIRC.... Thanks for the info Robert um abraco Pedro >> These collector's shows can be great- some folks are selling "old stuff" just to clean out the garage- others offer their grossly inflated "collector's items". At any given show, you can see the (for example) Airfix triplane going for anything between $2 and $20 depending on who's selling it. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:34:32 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lurking RMS and more. Message-ID: In a message dated 00-01-22 23:30:16 EST, you write: << << it's not rumor about champlin. it was in wed or thurs paper this week that seattle bought all the a/c and will be moving them up your way in about three years. >> >> The day is coming when, if it isn't owned by Boeing, it will be owned by Microsoft. The Microsoft billionaires, having tired of their flight simulators, are now buying The Real Things. The Curtiss P-40C restored from the Murmansk wreck that you can see photos of at my website was purchased at about a 50% profit for The Fighter Collection by Paul Allen's bunch last year and flown from Chino to Seattle this past fall. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:35:01 -0800 From: cfrieden@calpoly.edu Subject: Champlin Museum Message-ID: I for one am sorry to hear this, as my grandparents live about twenty minutes from the Champlin museum. It was at this museum that I saw my first OT aircraft. I guess I will be bringing a lot of film to Phoenix when I go next Christmas... :) It is nice to know that the collection will have a nice home, although I do not think I will be going to Seattle very often. BTW, work on my D.VII was delayed by several unexpected events. I am hoping to resume work on it soon, and I will let everyone know as soon as I finish it. -Chris Friedenbach nb: ot Vought thingie, flown by my late grandfather. nu: the Fokker! > it's not rumor about champlin. it was in wed or thurs paper this week that > seattle bought all the a/c and will be moving them up your way in about > three years. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:48:39 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Re: RTV Message-ID: <001a01bf655d$1f539b00$6bd690d0@Pvosburg> SP FWIW, I started casting small parts a few years ago using clear silicone caulk and a two-part epoxy plumber's putty called PC-11 (wonderfully on-topic name!), both available in hardware/paint stores. It only works for one-sided parts like instrument panels or radiators though; anything 3-dimensional and you'd be better off going with a traditional 2-part RTV mold. First take the part, smear a liberal coat of caulk on it (the stuff smells like vinegar as somebody noted) with a coffee stir-stick, and let it cure for a couple of hours. Give it another coat or two if it seems like it needs it, and then let it sit overnight. Flex the silicone next day and your master will pop out, then mix up two equal parts of the PC-11, and use a stir-stick to squash it down into the mold. I wouldn't build up more than about 1/4" of the stuff or you might run into trouble --- if necessary let it dry and give it another coat to bring it up to the desired thickness. When the epoxy is cured, pop out your duplicate part and go about your merry way. As I said, it's best for small items, but I used this technique to cast a duplicate of the cowl on a 28th scale Revell Triplane at one point. It worked perfectly, although there was a lot of grinding-down to be done on the back side. All best, DV ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2103 **********************