WWI Digest 2098 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines by "Lance Krieg" 2) Digest Mode was newbie... by James Gibbons 3) Re: E-zines by "Lee Mensinger" 4) RE: E-zines by "dfernet0" 5) RE: Interesting on-topic site by "dfernet0" 6) Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines by "Lee Mensinger" 7) Re: newbie says hello, questions about rigging by Albatrosdv@aol.com 8) Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 9) Re: Web goodies by Albatrosdv@aol.com 10) ***gging in the rigging by "Karl Otto Titzlinger" 11) Re: Web goodies by "Matthew Bittner" 12) Re: GreatModels WebStore - was Dragon /DML by "DAVID BURKE" 13) Hi Lee! - was:newbie says hello, questions about rigging by "DAVID BURKE" 14) Re: Some Pictures of the Salamander and other stuff as promised.... by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Re: Web goodies by "Peter Leonard" 16) Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines by "Lee Mensinger" 17) RE: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines by Shane Weier 18) Re: newbie says hello, questions about rigging by "Nigel Rayner" 19) Re: newbie says hello, questions about rigging by "Steven Schofield" 20) Re: Some Pictures of the Salamander and other stuff as promised.... by "Steven Schofield" 21) RE: Web goodies by Shane Weier 22) was - Some Pictures of the Salamander- Now quality photo's by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 23) HB D1 help by "Nigel Rayner" 24) Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 25) Re: making roundels smaller by "Len Smith" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:44:10 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines Message-ID: Wasn't there a lengthy treatise on the health effects of WWI flying in a recent C&CI? There isn't much doubt of the effects of castor oil on the digestive system, and I assume that regular doses of vaporize oil would be very debilitating in short order. >Ingesting all that castor oil must have also led to a speedy exit >upon landing! Did the inline engines ( or non rotary engines ) use Castor Oil as lubricant? I believe that castor oil was limited to rotaries as a lost lubricant, and the in-lines used conventional oil. Don't know about radials, though... Lance cam AFC page - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:52:52 -0500 From: James Gibbons To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Digest Mode was newbie... Message-ID: <01BF6273.B8473A20.jgibbons@vppsa.com> Digest mode causes the list server to send you one (or more depending on traffic) accumulated postings as opposed to sending you a separate e-mail each time a post occurs. This makes it easier (for me at least) to receive list e-mails at work as I am not constantly interrupted. However it makes it very difficult to buy items that appear on list as there appear to be some very quick typers out there . To receive digest mode send an e-mail with no subject to wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu The BODY of the e-mail should read Set wwi mail digest Hope this helps. James Gibbons ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:58:53 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: E-zines Message-ID: <3885ED4D.E406ED09@wireweb.net> I have heard that the drinking of large quantities of booze would prevent the need to evacuate so rapidly as one might expect. Some say that worked. Lee dfernet0 wrote: > Steve wondered: > >anyone know of any accounts of WWI > > pilots routines upon landing after a long cold mission? Did they flee to > the > > corner of the hanger or just water the tires? Fug boots must have been a > > problem to the desperate. > > As I've read somewhere (can't remember exactly where) the issue with long > flight wasn't the #1 task, but #2. Castor oil is a strong laxative. I guess > that they dealt with this as best as they can. At least they had a good > excuse to deny extreme fear.... > D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:00:32 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: E-zines Message-ID: <002801bf629e$b263c120$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Bah! I've used that same excuse a zillion times! ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Mensinger To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Re: E-zines > I have heard that the drinking of large quantities of booze would prevent the > need to evacuate so rapidly as one might expect. Some say that worked. Lee > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:02:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Interesting on-topic site Message-ID: <002901bf629e$fc9bffa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Whoa! check this diagram on the site: http://www.richthofen.com/rickenbacker/rickdiagram.jpg see "horizontal Vrille" at the top? How he could do that? Did the Spads had jet engines to perform those maneuvres? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: Interesting on-topic site > Here's a site that may be of interest: > > http://www.richthofen.com/rickenbacker/ > > The title is "Fighting the Flying Circus", with the description > consisting of "This on-line edition of Eddie Rickenbacker's World > War One memoir...". > > > Matt Bittner > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:17:24 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines Message-ID: <3885F1A4.88BC61A1@wireweb.net> No. The Jenny for example used a good grade of regular oil. I forget the weight. If it is important to anyone I will get that information. Lee M cameron rile wrote: > >Ingesting all that castor oil must have also led to a speedy exit > >upon landing! > > Did the inline engines ( or non rotary engines ) use Castor Oil as > lubricant? > > cam > > AFC page - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:40:42 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: newbie says hello, questions about rigging Message-ID: In a message dated 00-01-19 07:40:59 EST, you write: << I do have a question about rigging. I'm sure that this topic has been beaten to death in the mailing list, but I would very much appreciate any suggestions. What is your prefered method for rigging a 1/48 biplane, and what should I expect the actual and scale cable thickness to be? >> Others have many inreresting ways of doing this. In 1/48, I go to a music store and buy "High E" guitar string. Tape a weight on one end, tape the other to the wall, let it hang and straighten for a few days, and you have .008 stainless steel wire, which looks great on the model. I have recently discovered another way of doing 'raf wires' (something you do not need to worry about with an Albatros, but may be concerned with when doing a Bristol Fighter, Camel, S.E.5a, etc.) which is to use .010x.020 Evergreen strip - at the lengths we are talking about, there is no sag, and you get the "flat" look you can never get with wire. Glues easier, too. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:37:52 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines Message-ID: Speaking of Jennies, wasn't that a friend of yours who was building the full scale replica, Lee? If so, how is it coming along? Paul >>> "Lee Mensinger" 01/19/2000 11:17:13 AM >>> No. The Jenny for example used a good grade of regular oil. I forget the weight. If it is important to anyone I will get that information. Lee M cameron rile wrote: > >Ingesting all that castor oil must have also led to a speedy exit > >upon landing! > > Did the inline engines ( or non rotary engines ) use Castor Oil as > lubricant? > > cam > > AFC page - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:44:12 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web goodies Message-ID: In a message dated 00-01-19 10:14:34 EST, you write: << It's difficult to keep straight which is the new one from TC. If it's the Albatros trio, then excellent job! If not, then excellent job anyway. :-) >> No, this is the Pfalz trio that's new. Also the Biff pair is post New Year's, and wasn't mentioned in new stuff. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:51:35 GMT From: "Karl Otto Titzlinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: ***gging in the rigging Message-ID: <20000119175135.24171.qmail@hotmail.com> Witold...." For rigging I use threads from panty hose" Pause to visualise all the ladies of Witold's acquaintance shuffling around with their undies round their knees :) Hptm Ritter (Dipl Ing) Karl Otto Titzlinger Late of His Imperial Majesty's Jasta 38DD ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:52:29 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Web goodies Message-ID: <200001191756.MAA15140@pease1.sr.unh.edu> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:51:13 -0500 (EST), Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > No, this is the Pfalz trio that's new. Also the Biff pair is post New > Year's, and wasn't mentioned in new stuff. Definitely great job. Man, the Pfalz is such a sleek looking aircraft! The Biff's well...great modeling job, but the subject! ;-) (Uh-oh, here come's Shanes ire!) Matt Bittner http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:37:38 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: GreatModels WebStore - was Dragon /DML Message-ID: <011701bf62a5$f53b66e0$8e98aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Boys and Girls, Let me tell you about GreatModels. I have used them for the last year or so and even though I don't usually have any idea when I'll get my stuff from them (well, it's always within a few weeks), let me say that they have a really nice selection and are polite and I have had dealings with them when a wrong item would be shipped, and it would get cleared up ASAP. So I endorse them wholeheartedly. On the down side, they set up an account on your credit card, so a late night with a few beers can run you up a hundred bucks or so! Of course, so did Amazon.com, but that's another story! Have a happy! DB >Have you checked these folks: > >GreatModels Webstore or >http://www.povn.com/avusk > >They seem to be quite comprehensive > >Not direct corporate advertisers but good model Hobby companies and lots of >goodies. Large catalogs. Great Models supplies one, you can print out, on >line. Lee > >Peter Leonard wrote: > >> Is there another website besides http://www.dragon-models.com/ for >> Dragon/DML? I've been watching the site for some time hoping that it would >> improve but in continues to be a huge disappointment; nothing but action >> figures. Is there a seperate site for Shanghai Dragon? >> >> Peter L >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:43:35 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Hi Lee! - was:newbie says hello, questions about rigging Message-ID: <011801bf62a5$f6266320$8e98aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Lee! Welcome to the monkey house! If you wanted a change of pace, you came to the wrong place - this is less of a change of pace than a dimension warp! Tons of fun around here, and good to have you aboard! As for rigging, I use fine surgical wire, about .005 dimeter. Ernie's blackened-wire trick works great too, and there's always nylon coat thread. It's nice because it helps hold the kits together! Sit yourself down and look through the Images gallery at the excellent stuff that these guys have done, and then, thoroughly confused, pick yourself up a kit and slap some glue on it! Kept me sane for.... how many minutes has it been...? DB -----Original Message----- From: Lee Rouse To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: newbie says hello, questions about rigging >I have been modeling WWII aircraft subjects for about 10 years and have for >some time felt a growing boredom with the continuing stream of kits, >newsgroup postings, and magazine reviews about yet another variation on the >Me109. My recent purchase of the Eduard Albatros kit, along with my >stumbling across the WWI Modeling Page, could not have been better timed. >I'll have to admit that with the exception of a Lindberg Bristol Bulldog I >built a couple of years ago, the last time I put something together with two >wings was Rickenbacker's Spad (Aurora kit??) when I was a kid in the 60's. >But having started the Albatros kit, I am enjoying it immensely. > >I do have a question about rigging. I'm sure that this topic has been beaten >to death in the mailing list, but I would very much appreciate any >suggestions. What is your prefered method for rigging a 1/48 biplane, and >what should I expect the actual and scale cable thickness to be? > >One other question which deals with the format of this mailing list. What is >the "Digest" version of receiving messages? > >Thanks, > >Lee Rouse > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:47:18 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Some Pictures of the Salamander and other stuff as promised.... Message-ID: <011901bf62a5$f6f76ec0$8e98aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Very Nice! I wish that the photo would have been shot against a neutral background though. DB -----Original Message----- From: Pedro e Francisca To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Some Pictures of the Salamander and other stuff as promised.... > > >Ray_Boorman@telus.net wrote: > >> Ok guys don't all laugh here is the link to some pictures of the >> Salamander just as I promised Pedro..... >> Looking at them I can now say the only thing worse than my >> models are my scan's..... Be nice (Dicta Ira etc) >> >> http://www3.telus.net/Jasta2000/RaysModels.htm >> >> Ray > >Ray, > >Nothing to laugh about your Salamander. Pretty nice work on the finish >which i know from experience is not one of the easiest. Keep up the >great work and keep them coming so that we can see them, since the only >thing we like better than making models is looking at each other's >models. > >Um abraco > >Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:29:07 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web goodies Message-ID: <20000119182907.1670.qmail@hotmail.com> Nice work both, I especialy like Michael's BeBe. Watch out Alberto, he's right behind you :) Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:14:38 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines Message-ID: <38860D1E.2A22FE0C@wireweb.net> Got a friend in Kerrville and another in Marion Texas. Haven't heard from Vernon Hatch up in Kerrville and have kind of lost track of his progress on the "Canuck". In Marion it is a complete restoration in progress on a US Curtis JN4. The old airframe was in such bad shape attempts to renovate were thrown out and a full rebuilt is in progress. It looks as if the wings will get the same treatment. Lee M. Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > Speaking of Jennies, wasn't that a friend of yours who was building the full scale replica, Lee? If so, how is it coming along? > > Paul > > >>> "Lee Mensinger" 01/19/2000 11:17:13 AM >>> > No. The Jenny for example used a good grade of regular oil. I forget > the weight. If it is important to anyone I will get that information. > Lee M > > cameron rile wrote: > > > >Ingesting all that castor oil must have also led to a speedy exit > > >upon landing! > > > > Did the inline engines ( or non rotary engines ) use Castor Oil as > > lubricant? > > > > cam > > > > AFC page - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:19:49 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C0D@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lance says: > I believe that castor oil was limited to rotaries as a lost > lubricant, and the in-lines used conventional oil. Don't > know about radials, though... This is correct, and in fact the shortage of castor oil is why the Germans concentrated development effort on inline engines as far as possible. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:57:36 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: newbie says hello, questions about rigging Message-ID: <000a01bf62b8$3a332c80$c82e883e@nigelr> Lee the newbie asked: >I do have a question about rigging. I'm sure that this topic has been beaten >to death in the mailing list, but I would very much appreciate any >suggestions. What is your prefered method for rigging a 1/48 biplane, and >what should I expect the actual and scale cable thickness to be? Lee, I'm a returnee to the art of WWI modelling (from about 25 plus years back), so am new to the black arts of rigging. There are three main ways to do it - HSP (heat stretched sprue, shouldn't that be HSS?), steel/ceramic/brass wire or monofilament thread. As a virgin rigger, I've tried all three, so here's some thoughts: - HSP - bloody difficult to get consistent thickness of stretched sprue, much cursing and swearing, gave up. There were some comments in a thread a long time back that the quality of plastic these days ain't what it used to be and doesn't stretch as well as it used. I also think that kits rigged ith HSP exhibit more sag and twist than kits done with the other methods. - Mono thread. I discovered smoke grey invisible sewing thread, which is great for rigging. I found this easy to do - just drill holes through wings and fuse at appropriate points, pass the thread through, secure with a blob of CA. Looks great for 1/72, I found this quick and easy. Cleaning up the glue blobs is a bit of a pain, and there are various schools of thought about doing this before/after painting/varnishing. - "Stiff" wire. Various types, surgical steel, ceramic, brass etc, but basically it's wire that in the short lengths needed will be stiff and straight. Main thing is you need it thin (someone cleverer than me will tell you the scale thckness) - .005/.006 seems most popular. Isn't that easy to get, so I used .008 guitar strings on a 1/48 Flashback Berg (thanks to a tip from the list heretic, Ernest Thomas). These need to be straightened (hang a weight on the end of them) if they come straight from the packet, also run them through a candle flame to blacken them up a bit. Use a pair of dividers to get the approximate length, cut, dry fit and trim until the wire fits in the appropriate place. Secure using a blob of white glue at each end. This method is less invasive than thread (ie no hole drilling), but I found it difficult to get the wires placed right. I did drill pilot holes, but couldn't find these in awkward to get at spaces, so ended up with lots of smears of white glue all over the place. So next time round, I may try the thread method on a 1/48 kit (altho I'll need a thicker thread). HTH. Contact me off list if you want more thoughts from a beginner. Also, Dennis Ugulano has his own method (DURAS) which is described on his web page. And as for using pantyhose, well what can I say? >One other question which deals with the format of this mailing list. What is >the "Digest" version of receiving messages? Digest mode means you get 1 or 2 emails a day with about 20 to 30 message in each mail. This saves getting each message directly in your inbox and means you can whiz through them very quickly. Good if you're a time deficient lurker like me. Enjoy. You'll learn a lot from these guys (but not much from me I'm afraid....). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:39:46 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Re: newbie says hello, questions about rigging Message-ID: <002401bf62c5$b5b858a0$b48d93c3@oemcomputer> > >I do have a question about rigging. I'm sure that this topic has >been > >beaten to death in the mailing list, but I would very much >appreciate any > >suggestions. What is your prefered method for rigging >a 1/48 biplane, and > >what should I expect the actual and scale cable >thickness to be? Ignore the lot of them. - They're all mad... Use Lycra thread - stretchy, durable and variable thickness. I wish plain-text e-mail would allow me to put an animated Andrex Puppy here, just to make my point ;-) Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:44:34 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Re: Some Pictures of the Salamander and other stuff as promised.... Message-ID: <002c01bf62c6$60c604e0$b48d93c3@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:54 AM Subject: Some Pictures of the Salamander and other stuff as promised.... > Ok guys don't all laugh here is the link to some pictures of the > Salamander just as I promised Pedro..... > Looking at them I can now say the only thing worse than my > models are my scan's..... Be nice (Dicta Ira etc) > > http://www3.telus.net/Jasta2000/RaysModels.htm > Ray - like the colours better than some of the interpretations I've seen. Will start mine sooooon. Still - watch out for those LEGO biplanes, they are particularly well-armed. Not least with Kinetic Energy Weapons. (The Voice of Experience - Joe is now two years old and has a mean throwing-arm.) Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:28:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Web goodies Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1C0E@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Matt, > Definitely great job. Man, the Pfalz is such a sleek looking > aircraft! The Biff's well...great modeling job, but the subject! > ;-) (Uh-oh, here come's Shanes ire!) Nuthin' wrong with Biffs. Once you don't have to build another one... Anyway, my ires broken. Going off in a huff, Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:02:25 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: was - Some Pictures of the Salamander- Now quality photo's Message-ID: <200001192202.OAA26504@smtpout.telus.net> Durn, you guys are way to kind, those photo's of the Salamander were really bad. As you might have guessed I am a photographic klutz. Anyhow thanks to everyone who gave me feedback both onlist and offlist, especially the scanner tips website. I've very seldom taken photo's of models before so I really didn't have a clue. From what I have gathered it would seem that using a contrasting plain background, tripod and natural light (overcast daylight for example but not bright sunshine). I should be able to get clear and well focused photo's even if I don't have macro facilities on my camera. >From that I should be able to scan in just the model and viola even details will show up. One question though. My camera does have zoom so should I zoom in only the model or will this mean I need a bright light source. Another thing that came to mind was for klutz's like me a Digital camera might be an advantage, ie the quality might not be there, but I can re-shoot to my hearts content till I get it right. (Not that I am planning to get one, but it did come to mind). Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:03:16 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: HB D1 help Message-ID: <000b01bf62b8$3b59ab20$c82e883e@nigelr> Hi gang, Help please AH experts. I'm doing a quick build of the Toko HB D1 Starstrutter and need a bit of help (I have very little on this bird). - Am I right in assuming that the metal cowl panels and those on the baby coffin are grey painted, not bare metal (as Toko suggest)? - Were there any external control horns/wires in the tail area (for rudder/elevators)? The pics I have are too indistinct in this area. If so, any description of the setup most welcome. BTW Ray, liked the models. I've don the Eduard Sea Eagle version of the EV, and it's neat. But one thing.....that didn't look like a Sopwith Cat. Looked more like a Grain Kitten to me..........:-) Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:47:25 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: INlines and Castor Oil was ( RE: E-zines Message-ID: <200001192247.OAA15552@smtpout.telus.net> I've always wondered about how much blowback of oil there was even on inline engines for the following reason, if they had exposed valve gear, then the oil gets spat all over the place and then blown back to the cockpit. Now I am talking a trickle of oil but over a two hour flight there could well have been enough to coat the pilots face with oily grime. Just as an aside I once got to ride a Norton International, this is a motor-cycle from the 30's that has overhead cams and external valve gear. Well after I had finished riding, when I looked at the inside leg of my jeans I had two black oily patches from the oil blown from the valve gear, I also realized why riders back then had long coats even in the sunniest weather. Ray On 19 Jan 00, at 11:49, Lance Krieg wrote: > Wasn't there a lengthy treatise on the health effects of WWI flying in > a recent C&CI? > > There isn't much doubt of the effects of castor oil on the digestive > system, and I assume that regular doses of vaporize oil would be very > debilitating in short order. > > >Ingesting all that castor oil must have also led to a speedy exit > >upon landing! > > > Did the inline engines ( or non rotary engines ) use Castor Oil as > lubricant? > > I believe that castor oil was limited to rotaries as a lost lubricant, > and the in-lines used conventional oil. Don't know about radials, > though... > > Lance > > > cam > > AFC page - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:33:00 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: making roundels smaller Message-ID: <000001bf62d1$ae880560$12887ed4@mesh> Steve, Yes it is the same sheet, I just can't get used to these new fangled measurements. Check out the 3/4 rear port photo of the Sparrow, and note how much space there is behind the roundel on the starboard wing. With the roundel fairly close to the leading edge of the wing the 1/2" (or 14mm) one looks about right to me. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Cox To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:15 PM Subject: Re: making roundels smaller > Len, > Chord measures out at 18.5 mm same as yours. The roundels on my sheet > measure at 12, 14 and 21mm, and I wasn't happy that the 14mm ones would look > right. It's a Pegasus sheet but it's not numbered, may not be the same? > > I have the Pegaset No 013 of RFC/RNAS serials, but I'll make a note of > Mabex' address > > Thanks > > Steve > =========================================== > steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk > http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk > If I didn't spend so much time on line > << I'd get more models finished > ================ > > ---------- > >From: "Len Smith" > > What is the chord on your Sparrow? Mine is shaving under 3/4", leaving > > plenty of room for the 1/2" sets in the centre of the sheet. If you want an > > all white centre paint it first, then decal. > > Have you got the serial number decals? If not write to Mabex Products, PO > > Box 2581, Eastbourne, East Sussex, BN21 2UQ. They do decals for transport > > modellers, but they include alphabets and numbers in > > black of 1mm and 1/16" height, plus several other useful sets. > > > > Regards Len. > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2098 **********************