WWI Digest 2092 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New WW1 site by Zulis@aol.com 2) Re: RE: Parachutes? by "Lance Krieg" 3) Re: unsuspected OT literature by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Re: Hanriot Hd.1 by "Len Smith" 6) Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. by "Lee Mensinger" 7) Re: Blue Rider question by "Len Smith" 8) Replic #100 by "Matthew Bittner" 9) Re: Parachutes by "Nigel Rayner" 10) Re: unsuspected OT literature by KarrArt@aol.com 11) Re: Parachutes by a1b73869@telus.net 12) O/T Authors by "David Vosburgh" 13) Re: O/T Authors by Albatrosdv@aol.com 14) Riggers books by "John Sharp" 15) SSW D.III question by "DAVID BURKE" 16) Re: SSW D.III question by "Bob Pearson" 17) making roundels smaller by "Steve Cox" 18) Re: SSW D.III question by "Matthew Bittner" 19) Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. by "David Calhoun" 20) Re: O/T Authors by Suvoroff@aol.com 21) RE: Care and feeding of airplanes. by "John Glaser" 22) RE: Riggers books by Shane Weier 23) Re: Fuel & Water Lines by Ernest Thomas 24) Re: making roundels smaller by Scottfking@aol.com 25) Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. by "DAVID BURKE" 26) RE: Riggers books by "cameron rile" 27) Re: e-bay goodie by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: making roundels smaller by "Peter Leonard" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:15:14 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New WW1 site Message-ID: <4d.ac4ed3.25b0b3a2@aol.com> Nice site.... looking forward to the addition of English text, too. Here is a tribute to Alberto Casirati's models and photography.... I was looking at the pic of the A-1 on the site very very carefully to make sure it wasnt a black and white pic of another of his amazing creations.... Thanks for telling us about it, Alberto, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:20:59 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: RE: Parachutes? Message-ID: Diego notes: " I guess that the observer must always decide to jump before the ballon began to fall..." IIRC, the observers were ordered to jump by telephone from the detachment commander on the ground, and didn't get to decide. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:28:15 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: unsuspected OT literature Message-ID: <004601bf5eb6$585e5820$4793aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >Zulis@aol.com wrote: > >> Amazing.... he has been staying in a hotel about 600 feet from >> Toronto's best aviation modelling shop, but was unable to locate it. I >> wonder if that is because there is a club featuring exotic dancers in >> between? :-) >> > >Man! A hobby shop next door to a strip club. It's like what I imagine heaven is. >Except in my imaginings, heaven is a hobby shop with exotic dancers as the counter >help. >E. And beer. Lots of beer. And a pool table. And things. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:37:35 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. Message-ID: <004701bf5eb6$5927c2a0$4793aec7@dora9sprynet.com> They just finished a >Fokker E-V which is in the US Army Museum at Fort Rucker, Dothan, Alabama You mean there's actually something cool in Alabama? Actually, I know of something else. The Southern Museum of Flight here in Birmingham is restoring a Fokker D.VII. O.K., so it's a replica, and it was owned by the gentleman who used to live up around Huntsville. They are trying to replicate the lozenge pattern and are having a tough time doing the underside. The lozenge pattern starts with an 'N' (apparently it's a type of pattern). They have Munsell numbers, but can't find chips to get the colors matched. Any Help? (I told them I'd ask y'all) DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:44:26 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Hanriot Hd.1 Message-ID: <000101bf5eb9$eb099e20$99857ed4@mesh> Alberto, >From the few photos that I took it doesn't appear that the HD1 in the Army Museum in Brussels has the cutaway you mentioned, neither does the one in the RAF Museum in Hendon. None of my references say anything about a cutaway, although most agree that several alternative engines were used. Incidently in Windsock's WW1 Warplanes Volume 2 is a photo of Tenente Scaroni and a mechanic standing near Hd 7517. Was this another of his aircraft, or is there a mix up with the Number. I must congratulate you on your Nieuport 11, sheer magnificence. By the way, I am still looking for a Scaleplanes Pomilio PE for you, but no luck so far. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Unicalce Amministrazione Almè To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:52 PM Subject: Hanriot Hd.1 > Having completed the Toko Ni.11, I am going to attack the Formaplane vac of > the Hanriot Hd.1. > Looking at contemporary pictures, it seems some of the machines flown by > Italian pilots had a cutaway in their engine bulkhead, very similar to > those of the Sopwith Pup and Camel. > However, Jim Kiger's drawings (see WW1 Aero n. 106) do not show that and > the same goes for the original Macchi drawings I could get (see, for > example, WW1 Aero n. 106, page 30). > The Hd.1 currently preserved by the Aeronautica Militare Italiana at Vigna > di Valle has that cutaway. > I know some of the Italian Hanriots were powered by the 120hp Le Rhone > instead of the 110 hp version: is it possible that they were the machines > with that cutaway? > I am going to build Silvio Scaroni's H.d.7157 and the picture which was > published on the inside rear cover of the first printing of Datafile n. 12 > seems to suggest that machine did not have any cutaway. > Anyone able to solve the mistery ? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:30:59 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. Message-ID: <387F6B63.ED96465B@wireweb.net> Tell them to Contact: Vintage Aviation Services, Inc. 6658 Gin Road, Marion, Texas 78124 Tele (830) 914-2219 Do not call Wednesday. Office is closed. Terry is the gal that may answer the phone and you (or they) want Roger Freeman. Owner/President of the Company. Roger got the fabric from a company in Germany that made the stuff in WW I. I can not tell you what combinations of colors they may have or prices but it is a start on the real thing. Most likely more than they have right now. They could go to Dothan and see the plane. It is not that far away. It is lovely and very well made.When I get things better organized there will be lots of pictures available. Lots of close up details You can see what it looks like on the images and graphics section of the Pease1 site Under Lee Mensinger. Some E-V photos are on the site. Lee DAVID BURKE wrote: > They just finished a > >Fokker E-V which is in the US Army Museum at Fort Rucker, Dothan, Alabama > > You mean there's actually something cool in Alabama? > > Actually, I know of something else. The Southern Museum of Flight here in > Birmingham is restoring a Fokker D.VII. O.K., so it's a replica, and it was > owned by the gentleman who used to live up around Huntsville. They are trying > to replicate the lozenge pattern and are having a tough time doing the > underside. > The lozenge pattern starts with an 'N' (apparently it's a > type of pattern). They have Munsell numbers, but can't find chips to get > the colors matched. > Any > Help? > > (I told them I'd ask y'all) > > DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:27:37 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Blue Rider question Message-ID: <005d01bf5ebd$67301ee0$6d897ed4@mesh> Matt, Belgian sheet has:- Nieuport 11 'Vampire', Serial unknown. Pilot Lt.A de Neef. Fuselage and upper surfaces 'Drab Khaki', lower CDL. Nieuport 11, Serial N3. Pilot E.Thiffry. 'Appears to be doped Aluminium overall' Nieuport 16, ' Foxtrot' ,Serial N1497. Colours as Vampire. Also Strutter and LVG C.VI. Scans if required. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 4:17 PM Subject: Blue Rider question > Anybody that has the Blue Rider Belgium sheet in 1/72nd - are > there decals on this for Nieuport 11/16's? If so, which ones, > and is anyone willing to scan that portion of the decal sheet for > me? TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:11:34 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Replic #100 Message-ID: <200001141913.LAA19317@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> Just received Replic #100. On topic coverage includes a build article on the Flashback 1/72nd. 1.A2 Strutter, including photo's of a "real" machine hanging in some museum. Semi-on topic includes a build - and color plates - of the Tamiya Stringbag. Athough I can't read a lick of it, there's also a review of the French Naval Aircraft of WW1 book. Speaking of which, since Midland got it in, what's the chance of some shop in the US getting them? I talked to Midlands about receiveing a copy - which I will probably go with - but it's costly and slow, because it's even more costly to spring for Air Mail. Gads... And to think the book covers the subject I'm going to scratchbuild... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:29:07 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: Parachutes Message-ID: <000a01bf5ec5$a0efc6a0$e00c883e@nigelr> James of the mad 1/144 scale wrote: > I would like to know who developed the German parachute (an individual? a > company? the German Air Force?), how long it took, how much it weighed, > success rates, was it a seat pack, and stuff like that. James (and all), I have the Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air book by the Smithsonian (generally a revisionist load of tosh). It has a great picture of a pilot by a Fokker DVII being hooked into a Heineke parachute by his ground crew. The 'chute looks a little bigger (but not much) than a WWII 'chute, and is in a soft pack that looks like it goes on the back or the seat. Definitely not an external mount, there is a line coming out of the pack that has a hook on the end that looks like the static line attachment. The caption (and I don't trust this book) calls it a "backpack" parachute. It does, however, look fairly like a modern parachute, and it does look like the pilot is being strapped into a parachute harness. The text of the book also states "Germany....developed practical compact parachutes....by the spring of 1918. Despite ocasional unrealiability...." Obviously we musn't interpret this as fact, but it certainly adds weight to the view that German parachutes were compact and practical and, as others have pointed out, saved the lives of Udet and others. And as others have also pointed out, Trenchard's view of the expendability of RFC pilots supports the opinion that the British powers that be thought parachutes of little importance (they're not much use at 200ft doing ground support...). Interestingly, the opposite page shows a DVII pilot demonstrating the oxygen cylinder that was fitted some DVIIs late on. This sits outside the cockpit. Cheers Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:03:48 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: unsuspected OT literature Message-ID: In a message dated 1/13/00 2:27:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, Zulis@aol.com writes: << Great to meet you, Cyg - come back again soon! >> yeah- and get your own sweet self back out to California again soon too! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:13:08 PST From: a1b73869@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Parachutes Message-ID: <387f9f74.217e.0@telus.net> Nigel, I dont think Trenchard thought of his aircrew as expendable, in fact within the offensive mission statement that he had, he tried as hard as he could to get decent equipment, training etc. Early in the war Trenchard was bitten by some rather nasty white elephants, that made him more cautious imho, especially of untried or unorthodox techniques/aircraft/technology. In fact in one of my earlier posts I stated he would be interesting to talk to, to find out the whys behind certain decisions, not as a person to blame but because he was in charge and was a hands on type of officer so he was involved in an awful lot of what went on within the RFC. Also didnt the Sopwith Snipe also have oxygen equipment and some heating??........ Ray - defending the guys in pc10/12 ;) Nigel wrote >Trenchard's view of the expendability of RFC pilots supports the opinion >that the British powers that be thought parachutes of little importance >(they're not much use at 200ft doing ground support...). > >Interestingly, the opposite page shows a DVII pilot demonstrating the oxygen >cylinder that was fitted some DVIIs late on. This sits outside the cockpit. > >Cheers > >Nigel ================================================================= Internet service provided by telus.net http://www.telus.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:20:35 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: O/T Authors Message-ID: <000b01bf5ee5$f6ab33c0$64d690d0@Pvosburg> A day late, as usual (digest mode, sorry), but one of my favorite authors, Anglo-Irish poet & playwright Lord Dunsany was an officer in both the Boer and 1st World Wars. He wrote two slim books of prose poems about the Great War, "Unhappy Far-Off Things" and "Tales of War", and constantly refered to friendships which were cut tragically short by the war in his autobiographies. Also serving in the British Army were poets Wilfred Owen, Sigfried Sasoon, and Rupert Brooks. Another favorite novellist, William Hope Hodgeson, was killed in WW1, as was Irish poet Francis Ledwidge. FWIW, DV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:30:20 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: O/T Authors Message-ID: <84.4c7c69.25b10b8c@aol.com> In a message dated 00-01-14 18:23:04 EST, you write: << Anglo-Irish poet & playwright Lord Dunsany >> Not to mention also a fantastic science-fiction/fantasy author. Read his collection "Beyond The Fields We Know." I have written my share of scary stories (I always remember Stephen King telling me once that when he gets through with a scene, reads it through and it works, he thinks to himself "*that*'ll get 'em!"), and Lord Dunsany's stories are to be read in broad daylight in the middle of a crowd only - and will still make your hair stand up. (perhaps his ability to put the horrific on the page comes from having experienced it - there's an old saying the "writers write best what they know.") I know, I know, ot, but I suspect people who are members of this list read their share of that mindrot, as witness all of you who knew Don Martin. :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:57:40 -0000 From: "John Sharp" To: Subject: Riggers books Message-ID: <008701bf5eeb$256d2a60$4c2417d4@js1> Shane wrote .. I've read a couple of WW1 rigger biographies in the last year and they're surprisingly interesting. etc Can you pass on the title and details? I could do with a good read. John Sharp For more details see http://www.bigfoot.com/~AcesModels http://www.merseyworld.com/mcc http://members.tripod.co.uk/John_Sharp/SOHome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:49:02 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: SSW D.III question Message-ID: <003c01bf5ee9$f203f600$3594aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Guys, I know that I ask alot of questions about different A/C. This is because they are all in the works. One that is about to be finished is my 1/48 Eduard SSW D.III. I like the scheme for Vzfw. Fritz Beckhard from Kesta 5. I don't know why, but a green SSW sounds neat. But which green? A forest green, hunter green, dark green, pea green, etc.? I thought it would be like a dark, rich hunter green, and the photos that I have of this plane (Datafile) do look like it's a dark color, but of course with old B&W pics, color is suspect. Also, the Datafile says that it is a modified D.III. Modified how? If it's in the book, then I must have read over it. Have a happy! DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:04:06 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SSW D.III question Message-ID: <200001150015.QAA18170@mail.rapidnet.net> A lot of the early D.IIIs had full cowls, different shaped rudders and headrests. Later these were returned to the factory and modified to the same standard as later production D.IIIs and reissued to various units .. . I have correspondence from Dick Bennett on these somewhere as a result of my SSW profile page in which he mentions some of them by serial. Bob ---------- >From: "DAVID BURKE" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: SSW D.III question >Date: Fri, 14 Jan, 2000, 3:59 PM > > Hey Guys, > > I know that I ask alot of questions about different A/C. This is > because they are all in the works. One that is about to be finished is my > 1/48 Eduard SSW D.III. I like the scheme for Vzfw. Fritz Beckhard from > Kesta 5. I don't know why, but a green SSW sounds neat. But which green? > A forest green, hunter green, dark green, pea green, etc.? I thought it > would be like a dark, rich hunter green, and the photos that I have of this > plane (Datafile) do look like it's a dark color, but of course with old B&W > pics, color is suspect. > > Also, the Datafile says that it is a modified D.III. Modified how? If > it's in the book, then I must have read over it. > > Have a > happy! > > > DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:59:16 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: making roundels smaller Message-ID: Hi all, Does anyone out there have a neat trick for cutting down a decal roundel so that it is still cirular? I have a sheet of RNAS markings but they are all too large for the narrow chord wings on the AD Sparrow I'm nb TIA Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get more models finished ================ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:14:29 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: SSW D.III question Message-ID: <200001150116.RAA02030@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:11:29 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > A lot of the early D.IIIs had full cowls, different shaped rudders and > headrests. Later these were returned to the factory and modified to the same > standard as later production D.IIIs and reissued to various units .. . I > have correspondence from Dick Bennett on these somewhere as a result of my > SSW profile page in which he mentions some of them by serial. And don't forget, if you build 1/72nd the early D.III is now a conversion available from Hawkeye, mastered by Steve Hustad. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:24:49 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. Message-ID: <008b01bf60a2$ccbd7500$bb0b3ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Dave, I think I can send you in the correct direction concerning the lozenge colors. Dan San Abbott makes hand mixed color chips matching actual fabric samples. He also makes full size drawings of the lozenge. His stuff is not cheap, but it is really well done. I can't seem to locate his catalog at the moment to get his address, but maybe someone on the list has this info. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: DAVID BURKE To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. > They just finished a >>Fokker E-V which is in the US Army Museum at Fort Rucker, Dothan, Alabama > >You mean there's actually something cool in Alabama? > >Actually, I know of something else. The Southern Museum of Flight here in >Birmingham is restoring a Fokker D.VII. O.K., so it's a replica, and it was >owned by the gentleman who used to live up around Huntsville. They are >trying to replicate the lozenge pattern and are having a tough time doing >the underside. The lozenge pattern starts with an 'N' (apparently it's a >type of pattern). They have Munsell numbers, but can't find chips to get >the colors matched. > > Any >Help? > >(I told them I'd ask y'all) > > DB > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:00:43 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: O/T Authors Message-ID: <1b.5db31e.25b12ecb@aol.com> And Robert Graves, author of the popular _I, Claudius_ served as a British Officer in the war (his excellent memoirs of that tragic event are the well known _Good-bye to All That_.) Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:00:12 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Care and feeding of airplanes. Message-ID: <003801bf5f04$a5f72a50$8d00000a@johnghome> I know when I was there they were using the D.VII "In Action" as a reference. I thought maybe we should take up a collection to buy the Anthology for them instead. - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of DAVID BURKE Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:51 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. They just finished a >Fokker E-V which is in the US Army Museum at Fort Rucker, Dothan, Alabama You mean there's actually something cool in Alabama? Actually, I know of something else. The Southern Museum of Flight here in Birmingham is restoring a Fokker D.VII. O.K., so it's a replica, and it was owned by the gentleman who used to live up around Huntsville. They are trying to replicate the lozenge pattern and are having a tough time doing the underside. The lozenge pattern starts with an 'N' (apparently it's a type of pattern). They have Munsell numbers, but can't find chips to get the colors matched. Any Help? (I told them I'd ask y'all) DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:15:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Riggers books Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1BE9@mimhexch.mim.com.au> John, > Shane wrote .. > I've read a couple of WW1 rigger biographies in the last year > and they're > surprisingly interesting. etc > > Can you pass on the title and details? I could do with a good read. Both borrowed and handed back, but I can get the details, also so I can rustle up a copy of each for my shelves. I'll let you know in a day or two Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 1980 21:21:51 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fuel & Water Lines Message-ID: <12DAB2CE.B2929BF8@bellsouth.net> Dave, I honestly don't know. But since it looks like no one else is coming forward with the info, I would say Dicta Ira and use whatever metalic color suits your fancy. As long as it's not too bright. E. David Vosburgh wrote: > Hi All > > Anyone willing to hazard a guess as to what color the fuel lines should be on a > British-built "D" series Hispano-Suiza --- copper? Black japanned? Rubber covered? > > I'm also wondering about the radiator plumbing, which looks like it might be silver in the > photo I have. > > TIA, > > DV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:58:06 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: making roundels smaller Message-ID: <20.e0ae2c.25b1585e@aol.com> In a message dated 1/14/00 7:13:39 PM EST, steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk writes: << Does anyone out there have a neat trick for cutting down a decal roundel so that it is still cirular? >> I would try finding the center using a scale, and mark the center with a compass point. Use the compass with a cutting blade installed to cut the outside to the required diameter. HTH Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:54:35 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. Message-ID: <001601bf5f14$b037e120$7d81aec7@dora9sprynet.com> I already told 'em that I'd loan them mine. Me, I just wanna help build a 1:1 scale model for a change. DB -----Original Message----- From: John Glaser To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:03 PM Subject: RE: Care and feeding of airplanes. >I know when I was there they were using the D.VII "In Action" as a >reference. I thought maybe we should take up a collection to buy the >Anthology for them instead. > >- JCG > >-----Original Message----- >From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of >DAVID BURKE >Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:51 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Care and feeding of airplanes. > > > They just finished a >>Fokker E-V which is in the US Army Museum at Fort Rucker, Dothan, Alabama > >You mean there's actually something cool in Alabama? > >Actually, I know of something else. The Southern Museum of Flight here in >Birmingham is restoring a Fokker D.VII. O.K., so it's a replica, and it was >owned by the gentleman who used to live up around Huntsville. They are >trying to replicate the lozenge pattern and are having a tough time doing >the underside. The lozenge pattern starts with an 'N' (apparently it's a >type of pattern). They have Munsell numbers, but can't find chips to get >the colors matched. > > Any >Help? > >(I told them I'd ask y'all) > > DB > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:05:33 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Riggers books Message-ID: <76A5A93F7DAC3D115AC20005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> > Can you pass on the title and details? I could do with a good read. I recently got the "One Airman's War : Diary of Joe Bull" who was a rigger with 1 Sqn AFC and amongst others rigged B1229, one of the aircraft Ross Smith flew regularly. It is his diary in day by day form accompanied with the photo's he took. His diary is pretty point like and not written as a story, but it is very interesting and has a tonne of data on 1 AFC as appendices. I got it from Crusader books, it was also available from the AWM but they had run out pre Xmas. The book is about $40AUD and I think it cost $16 - 20AUD for shipping. In USD that is about $40 - $50. Shipping was more than usual as it is a hardcover. There is some more info on it at : http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/PointCook/afc_references.htm Crusader Books : http://www.crusaderbooks.com.au/ ( It has a difficult interface but if you ring the bloke he is extremely helpful, my package arrived from Au to NJ within 10 days of ordering ) AWM Giftshop : http://www.awm.gov.au/shop/index.htm ( ring them, there stock and catalogue rarely if ever match, the last two times I have rung they havent had either order in stock. Australia is 14 - 16 hours ahead, so ringing at 5 PM US EST is 9 AM in AU EST) cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:58:34 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: e-bay goodie Message-ID: <81.4e8527.25b1749a@aol.com> In a message dated 1/11/00 3:00:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, geral@naer-novoaeroporto.pt writes: << This one should be nice http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=232638371 Pedro >> That particular shot of LVG building Gothas under license was in an old WW I Aero and was a major source of detail for my 1/32 version. There is a great big BUNCH of stuff to be gleaned from this picture. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:48:50 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: making roundels smaller Message-ID: <20000115084850.41524.qmail@hotmail.com> Steve, get down to your local graphics shop and buy yourself an Offa circle cutter. It will cost you about five quid and you'll wonder how you ever got along without it. I use mine to cut odd size roundels from decal stock and circular formers from plastic card up to 60thou. Get a P-cutter while you're there. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2092 **********************