WWI Digest 2077 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: MoS Type-L # 356 by Scottfking@aol.com 2) Pfalz D.IIIa progress... by "Leonard Endy" 3) Pistachios, Etc. by "David Vosburgh" 4) 1:28 Spad Wing by smperry@mindspring.com 5) Re: Pistachios, Etc. by "Matthew Bittner" 6) Re: Pistachios, Etc. by "Peter Leonard" 7) Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 8) Roque's Nie 17 #1930? by skarver@banet.net 9) ot availability Esci HS-123 by John Cyganowski 10) FMP book + Small Parts catalogue + low melt metal for casting by "Tom Werner Hansen" 11) Book recommendations by "Tom Werner Hansen" 12) Re: Chris Gannon flaming by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 13) Re: FMP book + Small Parts catalogue + low melt metal for casting by "Matthew Bittner" 14) Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 15) Re: Pistachios, Etc. by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 16) Re: 1:28 Spad Wing by "David Calhoun" 17) Re: Sopwith Strutter by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 18) Re: 1:28 Spad Wing by smperry@mindspring.com 19) Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site by Pedro e Francisca 20) Re: Pistachios, Etc. by "Len Smith" 21) Re: Re:Multiples/ Pups/Beardmore by "Len Smith" 22) Re: OOB MoS L, was: Re: Morane photos by "Bob Pearson" 23) Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site by Pedro e Francisca 24) Re: Chris Gannon flaming by Ernest Thomas 25) www.sinotoy.com by "stcsq" 26) Re: On This Day by Scottfking@aol.com 27) Re: Sopwith Strutter by "Steve Cox" 28) Danish -- Help by "Steve Cox" 29) Re: Danish -- Help by "Lee Mensinger" 30) Personal for D by "Matthew Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:27:56 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: MoS Type-L # 356 Message-ID: <8f.8f3fe861.25a8bf8c@aol.com> In a message dated 1/6/00 6:41:18 PM EST, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm >> I can't say anything that hasn't already been said or thought, but I am going to say it anyhow. Nice Job!, on the Morane, and the rest of your models. Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 11:35:27 -0500 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Pfalz D.IIIa progress... Message-ID: Well, it wasn't finished in time for the end of the year but I am now in the decaling stages. I had the Aeromaster sheet for Holzem's plane and used those markings to determine where to mask the fuselage for the "black" on the rear of the fuselage and rudder/tailplanes. Cut out the fuse stripe/star decal from the Aeromaster sheet, set in the water and almost immediately it cracked in about three spots. It appeared that it would still go on okay but alas it wasn't to be... Now I had to use the Eduard decals and boy you better summons up all the patience you can find. As soon as these things come off the backing sheet they crinkle up like a wad of aluminum foil ! Putting the decal back in the water allowed me to get it straightened out (the decals are pretty tough) and after making sure the surface of the kit was thoroughly wet I managed to get it into place. The stripes are not long enough to meet at the bottom. In addition they are longer (fore to aft) than the Aeromaster set so I had to cut off one of the stripes. That was a heck of a lot easier than repainting the fuselage. To my surprise, once I got the decal in place, using plenty of water, it settled down quite nicely w/some Micro Sol. Next the star/German cross decal went on and again I finally managed to get it into place and it too settled down nicely w/some Micro Sol. The only bad thing was that the white is not opaque so some of the underlying colors shows through. Hopefully I can get the remaining decals on today and maybe get this thing finished up. Pictures will be ready as soon as I finish the model. I plan on entering it in the Richmond, VA IPMS open contest on Feb 12. There normally are not too many rigged-wing entries but I try to make the show every year. If any of our Northern VA/D.C./MD members plan on being there let me know and we can try to get together. Len ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:36:24 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Pistachios, Etc. Message-ID: <001401bf59f6$81519ea0$7fd690d0@Pvosburg> I got a big kick out of Cam's nutshell technique, and it made me think of all the kitchen/food products that we've pressed into use over the years. I just used the foil off of Hershey's Kiss candies as header wrap on a horribly off-topic 911-thingie, then there's RK's bamboo barbecue skewers, the wine-bottle foil we all use, and what others?? I spent a *long* time glueing split peas down to represent cobblestones on a diorama base once... All best, DV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:45:22 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: 1:28 Spad Wing Message-ID: <006001bf59f7$c21df2c0$3c0d56d1@default> Anyone out there have any experience with straightening the Revell 1:28 Spad wings. Both suffer from a bowed dihedral. I have the release in the thin white box and the photo of the built model even shows some of this upsweep, so I suspect it is a characteristic of the mold. These are huge thick slabs of styrene and I was hoping someone could share some experience on how long to heat them and how hot. Better to straighten with ailerons attached or seperated? TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 11:09:03 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Pistachios, Etc. Message-ID: <200001081711.JAA28284@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:41:50 -0500 (EST), David Vosburgh wrote: > I got a big kick out of Cam's nutshell technique, and it made me think of all the > kitchen/food products that we've pressed into use over the years. I just used the foil off > of Hershey's Kiss candies as header wrap on a horribly off-topic 911-thingie, then there's > RK's bamboo barbecue skewers, the wine-bottle foil we all use, and what others?? I spent a > *long* time glueing split peas down to represent cobblestones on a diorama base once... Mustn't forget the most important - toothpicks! :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:19:56 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pistachios, Etc. Message-ID: <20000108171956.62626.qmail@hotmail.com> Can't claim to have done this myself, but the most effective snow diorama I ever saw was done with cake icing. You get to eat your model, cool or what. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:32:49 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site Message-ID: <200001081733.JAA16303@smtpout.telus.net> Pedro, its been twenty years since I saw it, but the one in the Science Museum was CDL not white and has no markings. I always thought the one in South Kensington Science Museum was the Alcock and Brown Machine. if it is there might be a colour picture or two online. hth's Ray On 8 Jan 00, at 5:35, Pedro e Francisca wrote: > > > Ray_Boorman@telus.net wrote: > > > I was searching the web for information on the Vickers Vimy, (most > > info btw was in this lists archives). One link that came up was of > > the Silver Queen pages www.vimy.org > > Ray, > > I've been thinking of doing the Vimy in the Alcock and Brown version. > I have the Chematic (re-issue of the FROG) kit that makes things > easier. All the pictures I've seen of the A&B aircraft (not many) show > it with no markings, with a light fabric (except the one with the > nosedover aircraft in the bog that looks like the fabric was much > darker) and the a/c in the Science Museum is white IIRC. > > Can you or anyone confirm that there were no markings or serials on > the a/c and that it was white or CDL? > > > Thanks > > Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:29:53 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Roque's Nie 17 #1930? Message-ID: <38777411.AA797EC4@banet.net> Good day, List-- Sometime soon I hope to start on Jacques Roque's Nieuport 17 #1930. The photos in Avions no. 44 which is my reference for this a/c are unclear as to whether there is an upper wing cut-out. Can anyone advise whether this machine had one or not? TIA to all & regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:38:22 -0500 From: John Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: ot availability Esci HS-123 Message-ID: <3877760E.3891B138@worldnet.att.net> Does anybody know if the 1/48 Esci Henschel 123 is still in print and available? Please reply off list. Thanks, Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:29:44 +0100 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: FMP book + Small Parts catalogue + low melt metal for casting Message-ID: <000c01bf5a08$cbfc21c0$ead4d9c1@default> Received two items in the mail today: FMP A-H AAF book via Squadron Mail Order after waiting about 7 weeks which is normal for surface mail from the USA. They, however, shipped it the day after I ordered. Other item almost more interesting, The Small PArts Inc. catalogue: For anyone without a diabetic in the family, a source for all sorts of hypodermic tubing in sizes from 36 gauge (that is outside diameter: .00425 to .246 ). They also have something called fusible metals - low melting alloys melting at 117F, not the thing for modellers from Barstow (hottest place I've been in) whose A/C unit is liable to br4eak-downs. More useful possibly a metal which melts at 158F. This metal expands slightly when cooling, so could this be a solution to the problem we have when resin shrinks as it cures in the mold? Has anybody tried this metal instead of resin in RTV molds? What I actually ordered the catalogue for was to see if these guys could be a good source for Stainless steel wire for rigging. But which stainless stell wire do I choose? They have four different kinds of stainless steel + tungsten + music wire, most of them from .005 upwards. Please advice. I'll probably order a shipment from them to intercept me when I go to California in the summer. And this is only what I found in the first 100 pages of a 400-page catalogue. They have a web site: www.smallparts.com. No connection with any of the above, not even a customer yet at Small Parts, but impressed that they bothered to send this brick of a catalogue all the way to Norway. Tom W ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:45:13 +0100 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: Book recommendations Message-ID: <000d01bf5a08$cc9331a0$ead4d9c1@default> Happy New Year to everybody, I know I'm late, but whatever. To remind me of when times were definitely less happy I just read the Somme chapters in John Keegan's "Face of Battle". Just so we don't forget what happened on the groung below our heroic aviators. Gives you some idea of what went on. Also reading von Hoeppner's account of "Germany's War in the Air" in an American edition plagued by a number of misprints (Jeffre for Joffre is not good). For me this book is pretty interesting since most of the accounts I have read of the Air war have had a western slant. Von Hoeppner takes a very august view of the war, and goes into very little detail. (The only pilot mentioned by name is Boelcke, and that only twice, not even a footnote about a certain red baron) (Hear that, Sandy!). This was not meant to be a review of the book, but I'm not sorry I got it. Tom W ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:47:39 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chris Gannon flaming Message-ID: <200001081748.JAA19957@smtpout.telus.net> Arghhh Dont talk about the Junkers, for 6 months I put off buying one, then when I finally decided no else (eduard et al) was going to mold it and I had better scoop one up, they were all sold out. I could buy one on Ebay, but I refuse to encourage kit collectors prices. pfffttt....... Ray On 8 Jan 00, at 10:40, Matthew Bittner wrote: > Well said! While some kits aren't perfect (and which kit is?) > overall they're very buildable and filled a great niche at the > time. Heck, you still can't find an injected Junkers D.I (right, > Ernest? :-)! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 11:48:55 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: FMP book + Small Parts catalogue + low melt metal for casting Message-ID: <200001081808.KAA24659@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:48:44 -0500 (EST), Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > What I actually ordered the catalogue for was to see if these guys could be a good source for Stainless steel wire for rigging. But which stainless stell wire do I choose? I've been using stainless steel. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:20:56 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site Message-ID: <200001081821.KAA28350@smtpout.telus.net> Pedro, I dont know if you have seen these links to the Science Museum Aircraft Specifically the Alcock and Brown Vimy http://www.nmsi.ac.uk/on-line/flight/flight/vimy.htm http://www.nmsi.ac.uk/on-line/flight/flight/vimy2.htm http://www.nmsi.ac.uk/on-line/treasure/objects/1919-476.HTML This link has a thumbnail of the Aircraft as it sits in the Museum now. http://www18.pair.com/tvam/html/it/itvimy.htm This link is to an Education sight, basicly the story of the flight but has pictures of the Aircraft, and one unclear Jpg of the aircraft in the Museum. http://www.fi.edu/flights/long/index.html Hth's Ray. On 8 Jan 00, at 5:35, Pedro e Francisca wrote: > I've been thinking of doing the Vimy in the Alcock and Brown version. > I have the Chematic (re-issue of the FROG) kit that makes things > easier. All the pictures I've seen of the A&B aircraft (not many) show > it with no markings, with a light fabric (except the one with the > nosedover aircraft in the bog that looks like the fabric was much > darker) and the a/c in the Science Museum is white IIRC. > > Can you or anyone confirm that there were no markings or serials on > the a/c and that it was white or CDL? > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:24:12 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pistachios, Etc. Message-ID: <200001081824.KAA29054@smtpout.telus.net> Ceran wrap is usefull too, can be used for all sorts of rough masking of areas, allong with Wax paper its used for covering plans. My wife searches my workbench if any of her Kitchen implements go missing, most times she's right too...... On 8 Jan 00, at 12:17, Matthew Bittner wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:41:50 -0500 (EST), David Vosburgh wrote: > > > I got a big kick out of Cam's nutshell technique, and it made me > > think of all the kitchen/food products that we've pressed into use > > over the years. I just used the foil off of Hershey's Kiss candies > > as header wrap on a horribly off-topic 911-thingie, then there's > > RK's bamboo barbecue skewers, the wine-bottle foil we all use, and > > what others?? I spent a *long* time glueing split peas down to > > represent cobblestones on a diorama base once... > > Mustn't forget the most important - toothpicks! :-) > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:52:22 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: 1:28 Spad Wing Message-ID: <007e01bf5a22$a6652e60$5d083ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Steve, I'm currently working on the 1/28 scale SPAD - doing Luke's aircraft. As far as the wings go - bad news. I tried to attach the wing to a large steel ruler & put it into boiling water to straighten it. It did not work - I must have had the water too hot. It ruined the wing - the rubber bands that were holding it to the ruler indented into the plastic. I bought a second kit, the wing was still warped. This time I heated it with a hairdryer and held it against a piece of glass to straighten it. It worked fairly well, but left a couple of dimples that must be filled with putty. Hope you have better luck than I did. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:47 AM Subject: 1:28 Spad Wing >Anyone out there have any experience with straightening the Revell 1:28 Spad >wings. > >Both suffer from a bowed dihedral. I have the release in the thin white box >and the photo of the built model even shows some of this upsweep, so I >suspect it is a characteristic of the mold. > >These are huge thick slabs of styrene and I was hoping someone could share >some experience on how long to heat them and how hot. Better to straighten >with ailerons attached or seperated? > >TIA >sp >E-mail smperry@mindspring.com >Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:00:25 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Strutter Message-ID: <200001081900.LAA08976@smtpout.telus.net> Pedro, this is what Crowood Aviation "Sopwith Aircraft" has to say.... "The 9700 was a single seat bomber and was not just a 9400 with the observers cockpit faired over. It had a completely revised fuselage structure, with the under fuselage spacers deleted from the bays aft of the cockpit and transferred to auxiliary longerons at approximately mid fuselage depth. This created a bomb bay. A new fuel tank was fitted. The bomb bay was fitted with doors that were held closed with elastic cords. The cords allowed the doors to open under the weight of the released bombs and close afterwards. Metal inspection panels were let into the fuselage sides, to allow access to stowed bombs." Sorry that's all it really says about the bomber version. Ray On 8 Jan 00, at 10:36, Pedro e Francisca wrote: > Gang, > > I'm starting TOKO's Sop. Strutter, the single saeat bomber version. > > The FMP French book has a picture that clearly shows the bomb racks > behing the pilots seat. Does anyone know how the bombs exited the > fuselage? Were there were square holes on the underside of the > fuselage, below the racks? Or...? > > Also, what are those 3 same sized rectangular panels aft of the > cockpit on the fuselage? My guess were that they were "drawers" for > loading the bombs, am I right? Is that area metal? > > TIA > > Pedro > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:02:38 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: 1:28 Spad Wing Message-ID: <00a401bf5a0a$ef2c64a0$3c0d56d1@default> Thanks Dave: I suspected that the surface would get too hot to bind to anyhing without leaving indents before the center would get hot enough to be maliable. I may try warming it a bit in the microwave before a plunge in the hot water. If I guess right, maybe I can approach even heating. As serious slabs of styrene go, this is right there with Aurora Gotha wings, Thanks again sp ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 1:57 PM Subject: Re: 1:28 Spad Wing > Hi Steve, > I'm currently working on the 1/28 scale SPAD - doing Luke's aircraft. As > far as the wings go - bad news. I tried to attach the wing to a large steel > ruler & put it into boiling water to straighten it. It did not work - I > must have had the water too hot. It ruined the wing - the rubber bands that > were holding it to the ruler indented into the plastic. I bought a second > kit, the wing was still warped. This time I heated it with a hairdryer and > held it against a piece of glass to straighten it. It worked fairly well, > but left a couple of dimples that must be filled with putty. > Hope you have better luck than I did. > Dave Calhoun > -----Original Message----- > From: smperry@mindspring.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:47 AM > Subject: 1:28 Spad Wing > > > >Anyone out there have any experience with straightening the Revell 1:28 > Spad > >wings. > > > >Both suffer from a bowed dihedral. I have the release in the thin white box > >and the photo of the built model even shows some of this upsweep, so I > >suspect it is a characteristic of the mold. > > > >These are huge thick slabs of styrene and I was hoping someone could share > >some experience on how long to heat them and how hot. Better to straighten > >with ailerons attached or seperated? > > > >TIA > >sp > >E-mail smperry@mindspring.com > >Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 19:43:46 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site Message-ID: <38779372.EA7134DE@mail.telepac.pt> Ray_Boorman@telus.net wrote: > Pedro, > This link has a thumbnail of the Aircraft as it sits in the Museum > > now. > > http://www18.pair.com/tvam/html/it/itvimy.htm Hadn't seen that one yet Ray, Thanks for the pointer > > Hth's Ray. Thanks a bunch Ray It did help, of course Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:50:03 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Pistachios, Etc. Message-ID: <000b01bf5a12$9992a920$cb847ed4@mesh> Greetings, I believe Future/Klear etc has another 'domestic' use ? And non-stick baking foil is also non-stick up to and including superglue. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: David Vosburgh To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 4:41 PM Subject: Pistachios, Etc. > I got a big kick out of Cam's nutshell technique, and it made me think of all the > kitchen/food products that we've pressed into use over the years. I just used the foil off > of Hershey's Kiss candies as header wrap on a horribly off-topic 911-thingie, then there's > RK's bamboo barbecue skewers, the wine-bottle foil we all use, and what others?? I spent a > *long* time glueing split peas down to represent cobblestones on a diorama base once... > > All best, > > DV > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:56:15 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Re:Multiples/ Pups/Beardmore Message-ID: <000c01bf5a12$9a4b4ac0$cb847ed4@mesh> > Someone, I think it was Len, posted the manufacturer of a Beardmore WB3 > vacform. I'll add it to my Christmas list. Thanks. > > Now what do I do with the spare Pup? > > Regards > Steve Convert it to a Tripelane or Bristol F2b? Regards Len. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:00:36 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OOB MoS L, was: Re: Morane photos Message-ID: <200001082024.MAA29171@mail.rapidnet.net> Way up there is it makes you happy Bob ---------- >From: "John Glaser" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: OOB MoS L, was: Re: Morane photos >Date: Sat, 8 Jan, 2000, 7:23 AM > > Grudge build? Where is that on the Dicta Ira scale? > > - JCG > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:47:16 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Slightly ot Alcock and Brown was Vickers Vimy site Message-ID: <38777823.4E3EA2BD@mail.telepac.pt> Ray_Boorman@telus.net wrote: > Pedro, its been twenty years since I saw it, but the one in the > Science Museum was CDL not white and has no markings. Thanks Ray. I too saw it at the Science museum some years ago, but I was with the impression it was white because I took a photo at the time where the fabric shows as white. probably due to processing. I only took a photo because I was in a hurry and very short on film ;-(. > I > always thought the one in South Kensington Science Museum was > the Alcock and Brown Machine. Yes it is, Ray. > if it is there might be a colour > picture or two online. > > hth's > > Ray I've been to the museum's site and only could find 2 well know pictures taken on departure and arrival of the flight. Thanks for the help Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 14:51:04 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chris Gannon flaming Message-ID: <3877A337.FF9C856C@bellsouth.net> Matthew Bittner wrote: > Well said! While some kits aren't perfect (and which kit is?) > overall they're very buildable and filled a great niche at the > time. Heck, you still can't find an injected Junkers D.I (right, > Ernest? :-)! > Except for the one I just put on the shelf, I haven't seen any. And for all it's faults and flaws, the Pegasus Ju D-1 was a source of some pretty major Dicta Ira. rnrnrnrnrnrnrnrnrnrnrnrnrnrnrrn.... 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Puts the magnitude of the tragedy that was WWI into perspective, I think. And that wasn't enough to keep it from happening again. Shame on us all Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 22:20:04 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Strutter Message-ID: Pedro wrote: > I'm starting TOKO's Sop. Strutter, the single saeat bomber version. > > The FMP French book has a picture that clearly shows the bomb racks > behing the pilots seat. Does anyone know how the bombs exited the > fuselage? Were there were square holes on the underside of the fuselage, > below the racks? Or...? In "Sopwith- The Man and His Aircraft" there is a picture of N5116 which served with No 3 Wing RNAS. This is captioned 'bomb doors open'. It shows 4 flaps hanging down from the fuselage, 2 each side, which start just behind the leading edge of the wing and go back to approximately the centre line of the fuselage roundel. LMK if you'd like a scan. Windsock Datafile 34 shows one bomb in a 1B2 this is mounted vertically, nose up, and so would drop vertically tail first. Unfortunately the picture doesn't show the underside of the fuselage to answer your question. > > Also, what are those 3 same sized rectangular panels aft of the cockpit > on the fuselage? My guess were that they were "drawers" for loading the > bombs, am I right? Is that area metal? There's no sign of of the panels on N5116, but in the Sopwith book there's a picture of a French 1B1 which shows the panels open on the starboard side. I don't think they are for loading bombs, one of them is crossed by control wires and there's structure behind all of them. They may have been access panels for the armourers when loading. They do appear to be metal in that they show up light finish against the fuselage fabric. HTH Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get more models finished ================ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 22:39:25 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Danish -- Help Message-ID: Does anyone on the list speak Danish? I bought a Danish Nielsen & Winther Type Aa. It comes with sheet of instructions that I can only guess at the meaning of. can anyone help with translation? TAI Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get more models finished ================ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:32:47 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, "Lee Mensinger" , Subject: Re: Danish -- Help Message-ID: <3877C91F.57D0779F@wireweb.net> Steve. Don't want to be a Wise A--. But I can not, at the moment, think of any better way to get the information than to scan it and e-mail it directly to Tom Werner Hansen. (Tom has been having a few problems with his ISP latel tomwener.hansen@c2i.net or maybe preferabley hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de We have a number of members in Norway and Sweden but only one in Denmark. I keep a current copy of the list members available at all times. We are a global group, and good help is not far away. Electronically. May evn have a Danish member in Minnesota or Wisconsin or perhaps Canada. Never know till you try. I have sen a copy of this message to both of them so they should be aware of your problem when you write. Hope this helps. Lee Steve Cox wrote: > Does anyone on the list speak Danish? I bought a Danish Nielsen & Winther > Type Aa. It comes with sheet of instructions that I can only guess at the > meaning of. can anyone help with translation? > > TAI > > Steve > =========================================== > steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk > If I didn't spend so much time on line > I'd get more models finished > ================ > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:36:09 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Personal for D Message-ID: <200001082338.PAA09357@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> Hey, D! I'm trying to send you the info you wanted, but it keeps bouncing back. Whassup? Sorry, list. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2077 **********************