WWI Digest 2067

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: Austrian Alb
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
  2) Re:  Multiples in your collection
	by Ray_Boorman@telus.net
  3) Re: Re:  Multiples in your collection
	by GRBroman@aol.com
  4) OT: Flu there too?
	by Matthew Zivich <mzivich@svsu.edu>
  5) Re: FMP Books
	by Pedro e Francisca <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
  6) RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
  7) RE: Where's Dennis?
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
  8) Re: FMP is really no good.
	by Pedro e Francisca <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
  9) RE: Flu there too?
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 10) Re: I completed a model!
	by "Roger Belanger" <rogerb1@worldnet.att.net>
 11) Bad Blue Max Alb DIII and Pegasus DH2
	by Ray_Boorman@telus.net
 12) Nungesser's N.17 - 1490
	by "David Calhoun" <dcalhoun01@snet.net>
 13) RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
	by "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 14) Re: Bad Blue Max Alb DIII and Pegasus DH2
	by "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 15) Re: Bad Blue Max Alb DIII and Pegasus DH2
	by Albatrosdv@aol.com
 16) RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 17) RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
	by "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 18) Re: Austrian Alb
	by "Michael S. Alvarado" <sm5192@bellatlantic.net>
 19) Re: 2000 Most Wanted (1/72nd)
	by "K. Hagerup" <hagerupk@prodigy.net>
 20) Nieuport 17 - Nungesser
	by "David Calhoun" <dcalhoun01@snet.net>
 21) Re: 2B or not 2B, that is......
	by bucky@ptdprolog.net
 22) Re: Nieuport 17 - Nungesser
	by "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
 23) RE: Where's Dennis?
	by "John Glaser" <Jasta11@pdq.net>
 24) Re: Nungesser's N.17 - 1490
	by "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 25) Re: Multiples in your collection
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 26) RE: Where's Dennis?
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 27) RE: Where's Dennis?
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:32:55 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Austrian Alb
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B80@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Ray


> I'm probably committing heresy here but why not convert the 
> Eduard DIII to the Oeffag versions.

Exactly what I said the same day I first saw the Edurad D.III. It's not just
doable, it's simple. Even a W.4  a D.I or a D.II conversion is no great
drama (with apologies to Cyg and Eric)

Shane












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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:40:03 -0800
From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net
To: Mark Shannon <MSHANNON@tnrcc.state.tx.us>, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re:  Multiples in your collection
Message-ID: <200001032140.NAA02666@smtpout.telus.net>

I wouldnt be so sure about the no caster oil. ;)    

On 3 Jan 00, at 16:13, Mark Shannon wrote:

> In a message dated 1/3/70, 2:42:24 PM, GRBroman@aol.com writes:
> ><<c.  Tanks are those dull  khaki gray green things covered in dust
> >and mud. (see b.)>>
> 
> >And this is different from British aircraft because?.........  :)
> >Glen
> 
> No castor oil.
> 
> .Mark.
> 



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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:44:50 EST
From: GRBroman@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Re:  Multiples in your collection
Message-ID: <0.eed4031.25a27252@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/3/70, 3:10:54 PM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes:
<<No castor oil.>>

Touche
:)

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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:49:37 -0500
From: Matthew Zivich <mzivich@svsu.edu>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: OT: Flu there too?
Message-ID: <38711971.2A92A3D2@svsu.edu>

Something hit me last Thurs, mild fever, dry cough, general aches & pains,
etc.  Lasted 'til yesterday - 4 days- watched 2000 on TV.  Local news reported
numerous cases of flu and pneumonia going to emergency wards in the local
hospitals. !!!

Matt Zivich

Dennis Ugulano wrote:

> Everyone,
>
>         Dennis is still here at least I think so.  The end of December and
> the start of the new year have not been good, health wise.  It seems
> everyone in the family and at work are trading back and forth a flu bug
> that gets stronger with each transfer.  To show you how often I get sick, I
> have over 900 hours of sick leave at work.  I'm home today and have been
> staring at the computer.
>
>         Anyway the question that everyone wants to know.  # 100 did not get
> finished by the end of the year.  Actually, it didn't even come close.  I
> took some added responsibility to help my son and cut the heart out of my
> modelling time.  Right now # 100 is sitting in its work tray with no
> progress for over a week.
>
>         But I'm still here in full lurk mode.  As soon as I get over this
> flu I SHALL RETURN!!!!!
>
> Dennis Ugulano
> email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
> http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm
> Page Revised 9/12/99
> "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism"


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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:36:15 +0000
From: Pedro e Francisca <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: FMP Books
Message-ID: <3870FA2D.EF395B57@mail.telepac.pt>



DavidL1217@aol.com wrote:

> Not to be disrespectful of folks looking for out of print FMP books, however,
> I am glad to see them sell these.  More likely we will see FMP survive.

David,

I'm also glad they sell the whole bunch. What pisses me off is that they sold one
too many, since I had it on confirmed order!

Pedro




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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:58:22 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B82@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Glen,

>> c.  Tanks are those dull  khaki gray 
>> green things covered in dust and
>> mud. (see b.)

> And this is different from British aircraft because?.........  :)
>

I KNOW,  I KNOW  (leaping up and down in chair and waving hand furiously)

<drum roll>

No dust and mud !!!!!

Do I get a prize ?

Shane


PS - not dull either ;-)











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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:03:03 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Where's Dennis?
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B83@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Dennis,

> Actually, it didn't even come close.  I
> took some added responsibility to help my son and cut the 
> heart out of my modelling time. 

The only acceptable excuse. And Happy New Year to you too mate.

Ready to tell us what #1 (of the new year) is now ?

Shane





















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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:55:29 +0000
From: Pedro e Francisca <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: FMP is really no good.
Message-ID: <38711ACF.842FFEE8@mail.telepac.pt>



Michael Kendix wrote:

> >From: Pedro e Francisca <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
> >
> >  after waiting 4 months for my A-H book -  which I ordered when FMP
> >listed it on their site and was not sold out, because I got a
> >confirmation e-mail from Mrs. Durkota saying the order was ok - without
> >receiving a word from them I finally got an answer to my faxes and
> >e-mails that I take the liberty of transcribing hereunder:
> >
> >Quote:
> >
> >
> >Unfortunately, we have sold out of our book titled "Austro-Hungarian
> >Army
> >A/C", this is why we have not charged your Visa card. However, a copy of
> >
> >Imperial Russian Air Service has been shipped.
> >
> >Sincerely
> >D. Durkota
> >
>
> Pedro:
>
> A couple of things here.  I assume that you ordered the IRAS book in
> addition to the A-H book?

No Michael. The IRAS Book was ordered in the begining of December, that's when I
told them I was finding it strange that the A-H book was taking so long.

>
>
> Second, FMP need to either reconsider their distribution operation or simply
> "contract out" to other vendors.  I would hate to see FMP not produce
> anymore material since their stuff is outstanding, if you can get hold of
> it.
>

>
> Michael
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I absolutely agree with you, but their client support is crappy to say the
least!

Pedro


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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:11:12 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Flu there too?
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B84@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Matt

(And the rest of you Northerners)

 
> Local news reported
> numerous cases of flu and pneumonia going to emergency wards 
> in the local hospitals. !!!

It put ME into the ICU for 3 days in the southern winter and killed a bunch
of people. Please all be carefull cos this is no joke.

Shane


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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:06:19 -0500
From: "Roger Belanger" <rogerb1@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: I completed a model!
Message-ID: <009801bf5637$7a01edc0$adc24f0c@rogerb1>

Thanks again
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Suvoroff@aol.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: 01 01, 2000 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: I completed a model!


> Roger;
> Yes, the photograph is mandatory.
> 
> Yours,
> James D. Gray
> 


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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 14:16:32 -0800
From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Bad Blue Max Alb DIII and Pegasus DH2
Message-ID: <200001032217.OAA16634@smtpout.telus.net>

Over the last few weeks I have seen a lot of posts on some bad 
models from the above, specifically the Albatros in 1/48 and the 
DH2 in 1/72. whilst I really appreciate the information and hope that 
when someone comes across a bad model they let the list know. I 
have a question, have the people who bought these models 
contacted pegasus at there email addy. 

As a group we owe it to ourselves and to other modelers to gripe 
about bad quality to the vendor ie Chris Gannon. Especially if we 
want the current golden age (imho) to continue.  If the complaint is 
done right it does get attention. 

I for one am about to order a second Bristol F2B, but in my order I 
will attach feedback stating that I would have also ordered the DH2 
in 1/72 and the BM Albatros (bit of a lie there since I'll buy an extra 
Eduard DIII and convert it, but I would have bought the DH2). 
I'll state that the reason why is because its commonly known in 
wwi Modeling circles that these two models have bad mold quality 
compared to recent BlueMax/Pegasus offerings. 

I know some will say why bother just don't buy pegasus and BM 
anymore, but if enough people complain they might just pay more 
attention to quality and we benefit from that, plus some 
unsuspecting modeler who buys one of the dogs doesn't get put off 
wwi models from the bad experience.

Anyway thats my rant for today. Ray

 BM/Pegasus email addy for anyone else who wants to complain. 
sarah@pegasusmodels.com

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:17:40 -0800
From: "David Calhoun" <dcalhoun01@snet.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Nungesser's N.17 - 1490
Message-ID: <004201bf5651$8004c840$3cd33ccc@oemcomputer>

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Dear WW.1 modelers,
I am building a model of Nungesser's N.17 1490 using the Eduard =
Profipack kit in 1/48 scale.  The instructions state that this aircraft =
was painted aluminum on the undersurfaces & outlining the upper wing & =
tail.  In the Windsock Datafile Nieuport special #1 it says that this =
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was it overpainted in the camouflage colors?  Any help would be =
appreciated.  I am building this kit with members of my model club, =
Wings & Wheels from Chicopee, MA as part of a display of the Lafayette =
Escadrille that we are building for the New England Air Museum.
Dave Calhoun

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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:26:10 -0600
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
Message-ID: <200001032228.OAA12362@crow.a001.sprintmail.com>

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:03:25 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote:

> I KNOW,  I KNOW  (leaping up and down in chair and waving hand furiously)
> 
> <drum roll>
> 
> No dust and mud !!!!!

What happens if it runs through a puddle while landing, and then
it dries?  Dust and mud. :-)


Matt Bittner
http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm



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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:28:49 -0600
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Bad Blue Max Alb DIII and Pegasus DH2
Message-ID: <200001032231.OAA14116@crow.a001.sprintmail.com>

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:21:35 -0500 (EST), Ray_Boorman@telus.net
wrote:

> Over the last few weeks I have seen a lot of posts on some bad 
> models from the above, specifically the Albatros in 1/48 and the 
> DH2 in 1/72. whilst I really appreciate the information and hope that 
> when someone comes across a bad model they let the list know. I 
> have a question, have the people who bought these models 
> contacted pegasus at there email addy. 

I emailed Pegasus about my DH2 wing - and they replied saying
they were sending another wing in the mail.  Cool!  So letting
them know does work.  I didn't complain, basically just made a
statement amongst another question.


Matt Bittner
http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm



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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:35:58 EST
From: Albatrosdv@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Bad Blue Max Alb DIII and Pegasus DH2
Message-ID: <0.53e394ed.25a27e4e@aol.com>

In a message dated 00-01-03 17:18:57 EST, you write:

<< will attach feedback stating that I would have also ordered the DH2 
 in 1/72 and the BM Albatros (bit of a lie there since I'll buy an extra 
 Eduard DIII and convert it, but I would have bought the DH2). 
 I'll state that the reason why is because its commonly known in 
 wwi Modeling circles that these two models have bad mold quality 
 compared to recent BlueMax/Pegasus offerings.  >>

A point to be made is, the Austrian Albatros is *the* recent Blue Max 
offering.

I will tell you that commenting to Chris Gannon as a member of the modeling 
press/industry gets one nowhere.  I commented, quite politely I will add, and 
the result was that no further e-mails were even answered, a situation that 
had not been the case prior to my talking about quality control issues.  
David Hannant, who has known CG since he got his start, has told me that 
repeated discussions with Chris about upgrading his production methodology, 
based on feedback David has received from customers, gets no positive 
response from Mr. Gannon, either.  He's not quite in the same category as 
Dave Klaus at Meteor (i.e., he doesn't promote vaporware) but he's about as 
responsive to criticism.

My suggestion to those of you ordering, if you want to continue getting 
customer service, is not to pass these complaints on to him, as it will not 
get you what you want and will get you what you don't want.

Me personally, I hope his Snipe and Dolphin are up there with the Camel and 
S.E.5a,

I also forgot to list on my previous post that I have seen no bad copies of 
the Pfalz D.XII, as well as those mentioned favorably here and the 
Halberstadt Cl.II

Tom Cleaver 

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:39:55 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B87@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Matt,

> > No dust and mud !!!!!
> 
> What happens if it runs through a puddle while landing, and then
> it dries?  Dust and mud. :-)

Now you're talking about them dirty Frenchies. A proper Pommy would *never*
let his tools stay dirty ;-)

Shane

(not quite joking - have a look at the photos. WW1 aircraft were the fragile
hi-tech equipment of the day, and treated to careful maintenance and
cleaning)













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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:40:22 -0600
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Re:  Multiples in your collection
Message-ID: <200001032242.OAA21972@crow.a001.sprintmail.com>

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:43:52 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote:

> Now you're talking about them dirty Frenchies. A proper Pommy would *never*
> let his tools stay dirty ;-)
> 
> Shane
> 
> (not quite joking - have a look at the photos. WW1 aircraft were the fragile
> hi-tech equipment of the day, and treated to careful maintenance and
> cleaning)

In general you are correct.  But until the aircraft is cleaned...


Matt Bittner
http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm



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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:37:37 -0500
From: "Michael S. Alvarado" <sm5192@bellatlantic.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Austrian Alb
Message-ID: <387124B0.2E5A5B68@bellatlantic.net>

>From what I undertand, the Austrians modified the lower wing attachment hardware
on their version of the Albatros D. III, particularly that which comprised the
leading leading edg attachment.  This apparently stiffend the lower wing-leading
edge attachment thus preventing the leading edge from flexing excessively under
aerodynamic load.  It worked so well that they saw no need to abandon the basic
D.III design for the D.V.

Alvie

Dale Beamish wrote:

>     Is anyone aware of the procedures used by the Austrians to eliminate the
> wing problems on their Alb?
>     On another note does anyone know if Eduard plans on releasing this
> version and when?
> TIA
> Dale


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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:54:31 -0600
From: "K. Hagerup" <hagerupk@prodigy.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 2000 Most Wanted (1/72nd)
Message-ID: <387128A7.5389@prodigy.net>

My votes:

SPAD 7
Hansa-Brandenburg W12
SE5a
SPAD 13
NC-4

Ken

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:19:33 -0800
From: "David Calhoun" <dcalhoun01@snet.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Nieuport 17 - Nungesser
Message-ID: <006c01bf565a$262b98e0$3cd33ccc@oemcomputer>

Dear W.W.I modelers,
I am working on a Nieuport 17 #1490 flown by Charles Nungesser while
temporarily attached to the Lafayette Escadrille.  I am using the Eduard
kit, which has markings for this aircraft.  I have 2 questions. first, the
kit suggests that the undersurfaces & tapes around upper wing & tail are
aluminum.  However in Windsock Datafile Special Niueport Fighters vol. 1, it
states that this aircraft had light yellow or clear doped linen
undersurfaces & tapes.  Which is correct - I have seen references showing
both color schemes, but do not know what serial # the aluminum finish
started at - was this early aircraft pre-aluminum?  Second - was the
centersection clear cellon, or was it overpainted in the camouflage colors?
The photo in the Datafile is too blurry to clearly see this.
Any help will be appreciated.
I am working with members of the Wings & Wheels model club in Chicopee MA on
a display of aircraft used by the Lafayette Escadrille & their adversaries
that will be exhibited at the New England Air Museum in Windsor Lockes CT
this April.
Thanks,
Dave Calhoun



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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:20:45 -0500
From: bucky@ptdprolog.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 2B or not 2B, that is......
Message-ID: <38712ECD.250C3350@ptdprolog.net>



John Glaser wrote:

> "Heads up" is an expression from American baseball.  When a ball is popped
> high in the air, custom is to yell "heads up."  Assuming you turn your head
> skyward, it prevents you from being clunked in the noggin by the ball.

...Unless you are one of the girls on my softball team who got hit squarely in
the nose;-(
Mike Muth


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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:28:13 -0800
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Nieuport 17 - Nungesser
Message-ID: <200001032335.PAA03224@mail.rapidnet.net>

David,

As nice as Eduard kits are, I would trust almost anything else over them for
markings information - well maybe not Toko ...

Regards,
      Bob Pearson

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:05:47 -0600
From: "John Glaser" <Jasta11@pdq.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Where's Dennis?
Message-ID: <000a01bf5647$74cb71e0$8d00000a@johnghome>

Dennis:

You and your family's health is always most important.  Hope you are feeling
better soon.  And as Shane said, last year's #100 can now become the next
millennium's #1.

- JCG




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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:24:58 -0600
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Nungesser's N.17 - 1490
Message-ID: <200001040027.QAA20874@raven.a001.sprintmail.com>

"I am building a model of Nungesser's N.17 1490 using the Eduard
=
Profipack kit in 1/48 scale.  The instructions state that this
aircraft =
was painted aluminum on the undersurfaces & outlining the upper
wing & =
tail.  In the Windsock Datafile Nieuport special #1 it says that
this =
plane had light yellow or clear doped linen undersurfaces &
tapes.  =
Which is correct?  also, did this plane have the clear
centersection or =
was it overpainted in the camouflage colors?  Any help would be =
appreciated.  I am building this kit with members of my model
club, =
Wings & Wheels from Chicopee, MA as part of a display of the
Lafayette =
Escadrille that we are building for the New England Air Museum."

One thing to keep in mind is that Nungesser applied the serial
"1490" to all of his Nieuport 17's and "later".  If you look
closely at Rimell's color plate in the Datafile Special, he
contradicts himself.  He mentions in the text the undersides
being yellow or CDL, but his painting shows silver.

I would honestly opt for aluminum dope.  The picture of 1490 in
the "regular" Datafile shows a definite "sheen" to the edging
like it was aluminum dope.

It also appears the picture of "1490" in the "regular" Datafile
shows no cut-out to the upper wing, so solid it should be.

So, I would paint the uppersurfaces camo (either green/brown, or
green/olive, depending on which "camp" you belong to ;-) with the
undersurfaces aluminum dope.  Does the kit come with a cone de
penetration?  The photo definitely shows a cone.  This too
appears to be aluminum.

Best of luck!  The Nieuport is one awesome looking aircraft!


Matt Bittner
http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm



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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:36:10 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Multiples in your collection
Message-ID: <200001031936_MC2-9335-8D09@compuserve.com>

>> Your mileage may vary.  Anyone care to give their lists? <<

        Here is my list:

Fokker D.VII        (3) Including a conversion
Fokker Dr.1         (2) Revell
DH-2                (2) Revell
Sopwith Pup         (2) Airfix
HB-W29              (2) Veeday and Toko
Sopwith Snipe       (2) Pegasus and Toko
Roland C.II         (2) Airfix
Fokker D.VIII       (2) Merlin and Eduard Strip down


Other similar models

SS D.III Pegasus and SS D.IV Toko
Alb D.V Airfix and Alb D.Va Pegasus
Fokker E.III Revell and Fokker E.IV Revell Conversion
Bristol C Libra and Bristol D Aero 72

        My next goal is to build as many of the Albatros entries as
possible.  So far there is a D.I (Miekraft), D.III (Revell), D.V, D.Va, W-4
(Pegasus), D.XII (Veeday).  There is a great number of Alb two seaters on
my shelf (all vacs), I want the D.II and D.IV (yes 4) in the collection. 
And I can't forget the Austrian entries.  That will make a nice collection
within a collection.

        That's my next goal after I complete 100.  Ooops!!  Gave away that
its not an Albatros.

        Of course I'm looking forward to the entire Gotha line that Toko is
supposed to release soon.

        Anyway, that's my goal.  Anyone else?

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm
Page Revised 9/12/99
"Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism"

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:36:11 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Where's Dennis?
Message-ID: <200001031936_MC2-9335-8D0A@compuserve.com>

Shane,

>> Ready to tell us what #1 (of the new year) is now ? <<

No, I can't do that because # 1 of 2000 will be # 100 of the collection.

>> And Happy New Year to you too mate. <<

        Thank you kindly.  I hope all goes well with you also.

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm
Page Revised 9/12/99
"Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism"

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:42:00 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Where's Dennis?
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B8F@mimhexch.mim.com.au>


> >> Ready to tell us what #1 (of the new year) is now ? <<
> 
> No, I can't do that because # 1 of 2000 will be # 100 of the 
> collection.
>

Rats. 

I tried.

Shane















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