WWI Digest 2046 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: WWI Pilots by "Courtney Allen" 2) Re: Apostolo "Profiles" book by Joey Valenciano 3) Re: new models at Jadar by Joey Valenciano 4) Re: WWI Pilots by Joey Valenciano 5) Christmas greetings by Russell W Niles 6) FUBAR by Russell W Niles 7) Re: WWI Pilots by "Peter Leonard" 8) Re: WWI Pilots by "Courtney Allen" 9) Re: WWI Pilots by Joey Valenciano 10) RE: Colt? by Shane Weier 11) RE: WWI Pilots by Shane Weier 12) Re: the race is on by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 13) RE: the race is on by Shane Weier 14) Tally by "John Sharp" 15) Re: Tally by "Peter Leonard" 16) Resin Kits by "Lance Krieg" 17) Holliday administrative leave by Allan Wright 18) Re: Resin Kits by "Peter Leonard" 19) Re: Resin Kits by "Lance Krieg" 20) Re: Resin Kits by Albatrosdv@aol.com 21) Pegasus DH2 First Look. by "Len Smith" 22) Re: Resin Kits by smperry@mindspring.com 23) Re: Tally by "Lee Mensinger" 24) Re: WWI Pilots by "Brad Gossen" 25) Re: Resin Kits by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 26) Re: scales? by KarrArt@aol.com 27) Re: Pfalz DIIIa Colours by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: scales? by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: Copper State's Lozenge. by KarrArt@aol.com 30) Re: Bamboo struts by KarrArt@aol.com 31) Re: scales? by KarrArt@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:29:04 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <000f01bf4d06$a1c75140$fd44480c@courtney> What scale is the kit? I'm not familiar. I have many suggestion for 1/48. 1/72 is much harder. Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent & Tina Theobald" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:46 PM Subject: WWI Pilots > Howdy and Season's Greetings! > > I received a Waldo H-B W.29 from a good friend. I think it looks okay, > but I don't feel like detailing the interior. I thought I'd just stuff a > crew into the aircraft. Thereby obscuring any interior detail. Any > thoughts on where I could appropriate a crew without too much trouble? > WWI German or post war Finnish would be fine. > > Thank you, > > Brent > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:57:12 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Apostolo "Profiles" book Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991223135712.00d11cb0@philonline.com> Lance, Mike Thanks for the info. Hmmm... too tempting. >Joey >208 pages. Fairly large format,11"x9" >Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:56:23 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new models at Jadar Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991223135623.00d29100@philonline.com> When was the FBA17 operational? I don't think it's in the FMP French book, is it? >> For 1/48 builders, they've got this and it looks good: >> FRENCH FLYING BOAT SCHRECK FBA 17 $36 >> In resin by Modelkrak of Poland >> >> look here: >> http://www.jadar.com.pl/html/firmy/mkrak/samol-a.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:54:58 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991223135458.00d11cb0@philonline.com> Brent, Barry at Rosemont carries Atlee resin WWI German pilot, seated (w/ seat attached) Don't have this but Atlee's German pilot (standing), and WWI Russian pilot (standing) and they are excellent castings. Barry, when are you coming out with more Atlee figures? Do you carry (or can you get) Jaguar figures? Anyone know where some Van's figures are still available? >I received a Waldo H-B W.29 from a good friend. I think it looks okay, >but I don't feel like detailing the interior. I thought I'd just stuff a >crew into the aircraft. Thereby obscuring any interior detail. Any >thoughts on where I could appropriate a crew without too much trouble? >WWI German or post war Finnish would be fine. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:50:01 -0800 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Christmas greetings Message-ID: <19991222.215007.-448333.1.r_niles1@juno.com> To one and all on the list, may this joyous season bring you all that you could ever hope for. And now, on into a new millenium. Merry Christmas, and a happy new year. Russ Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:48:08 -0800 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: FUBAR Message-ID: <19991222.215007.-448333.0.r_niles1@juno.com> FUBAR was a well known acronym that we had during Viet Nam. Most of us in the motor pool used one time or anohter to describe the condition of our M60 tanks. FIGMO was the other favorite. "F.... it, I got my orders" ONLY used when you were short. Now, to get it back OT. I have finally gottten some paint on the DVII, and if all goes well, and I survive Christmas, I'll be decaling this weekend. Russ Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 05:55:19 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <19991223055519.55038.qmail@hotmail.com> Brad..."I received a Waldo H-B W.29 from a good friend. " Let that be a lesson to you. In future be more careful in your choice of friends :) Peter (aka Waldo) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:58:11 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <001d01bf4d0a$b2eab080$fd44480c@courtney> I bought my last Van's figures from Sopwith Hobbies. They may still have some. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joey Valenciano" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:57 PM Subject: Re: WWI Pilots > > Brent, > > Barry at Rosemont carries Atlee resin WWI German pilot, seated (w/ seat > attached) > > Don't have this but Atlee's German pilot (standing), and WWI Russian pilot > (standing) and they are excellent castings. > > Barry, when are you coming out with more Atlee figures? > Do you carry (or can you get) Jaguar figures? > > Anyone know where some Van's figures are still available? > > >I received a Waldo H-B W.29 from a good friend. I think it looks okay, > >but I don't feel like detailing the interior. I thought I'd just stuff a > >crew into the aircraft. Thereby obscuring any interior detail. Any > >thoughts on where I could appropriate a crew without too much trouble? > >WWI German or post war Finnish would be fine. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:14:09 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991223141409.00909e40@philonline.com> At 01:04 AM 12/23/99 -0500, you wrote: >I bought my last Van's figures from Sopwith Hobbies. They may still have >some. Nope, they just replied..... in the negative. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:31:46 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Colt? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B47@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Uh-oh. Sprung !!! David Charles says: > Colt? > COLT ? Okay, okay, so I'm shaped like an overweight Clydesdale, uglier than a sway backed brumby and (ahem) slightly past the prime of my youth, but saying that woulda ruined the racing analogy. Bloody nitpickers mumbel mumble rhubarb rhubarb..... Shane (for those who didn't realise it before David C is yet another Brisbanite, and well aware of my highly developed athletic abilities - eat a steak and drink a beer in 12.3 sec etc.) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:36:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B48@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Brad, > I received a Waldo H-B W.29 from a good friend. I think it looks okay, > but I don't feel like detailing the interior. I thought I'd > just stuff a crew into the aircraft. Well Waldo himself is on the list. He might volunteer, though I think he'd be a kinda tight fit. You might try modifying one of the CMK figures - it'd be a trial but I'm afraid they're the only ones that come to mind at the moment. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:32:58 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Re: the race is on Message-ID: <3862086A.F598B8DD@tac.com.au> >Colt?? :-) >>They're racing, first out of the gates is the colt from down under, but what's this...he's stalled and the challenger is fast approaching...... << Shane >Colt? >COLT ? You've got to admit it sounds better than filly ;-) and of course had he written stallion ........... well.......... Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:25:41 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: the race is on Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B49@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Yeah, yeah.... > >Colt? > >COLT ? > > You've got to admit it sounds better than filly ;-) and of > course had he written stallion ........... well.......... > .....I know. The Mistress would've taken the whip to me ( pant pant ;-) Shane (off to bed with visions a'swirlin' 'roun' me 'ead. Not sugarplums though - LVG's, SE's, Albatrossen, Camels, Capronis, Pups..................I gotta lay off that Cabernet Sauvignon) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:11:46 -0000 From: "John Sharp" To: Subject: Tally Message-ID: <19991223141805.45557.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi folks I've been lurking/catching up for a few weeks but here's my score for the year: 0 However, i did get one Aviatik to th 80% mark prior to the box dropping on it ..... Let me say though that listening to you lot has been a great source of inspiration and I have a cupboard full of started and waiting to go projects for next year, all I need is to give up work and then there might be half a chance of getting through some of them, along with the railway(s), the tanks and the other kind of aircraft that make sucking noises. Another source of business has been learning to do web sites and you may care to visit my first fruits at www.bigfoot.com/~AcesModels All comments on speed quality design contact welcome , orders even more so! All the best for Christmas and lets hope all our kits are Y2K compatable! John Sharp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:17:54 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tally Message-ID: <19991223151754.34829.qmail@hotmail.com> John, a few blank pages still, but no doubt my credit card and I will be visiting http://www.bigfoot.com/~AcesModels on many future occasions. Hope you make a mint. Peter ----Original Message Follows---- From: "John Sharp" Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Tally Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:22:32 -0500 (EST) Hi folks I've been lurking/catching up for a few weeks but here's my score for the year: 0 However, i did get one Aviatik to th 80% mark prior to the box dropping on it ..... Let me say though that listening to you lot has been a great source of inspiration and I have a cupboard full of started and waiting to go projects for next year, all I need is to give up work and then there might be half a chance of getting through some of them, along with the railway(s), the tanks and the other kind of aircraft that make sucking noises. Another source of business has been learning to do web sites and you may care to visit my first fruits at www.bigfoot.com/~AcesModels All comments on speed quality design contact welcome , orders even more so! All the best for Christmas and lets hope all our kits are Y2K compatable! John Sharp ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:24:25 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Resin Kits Message-ID: Well, gang, what does the collective wisdom say about straightening resin wings that have warped into a pretty good imitation of a corkscrew? Do people dunk them in (very) hot water and THEN tape them flat? Or tape them flat and then dunk them? How hot is too hot on the water? Do I run the risk of melting (or at least softening) the details? Expert advice eagerly sought... TIA Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:36:13 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Holliday administrative leave Message-ID: <199912231636.LAA14433@pease1.sr.unh.edu> WWI list members, UNH is shutting down this afternoon for holliday break. I will be away from the office for the rest of the year. I will be back on Jan. 3rd, but expect my first few days back will be quite busy handling Y2K issues. Please do not submit any new material for the website until after Jan. 5, I don't wish my mailbox to fill and crash the system. Thanks, Happy Hollidays, Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:43:03 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Resin Kits Message-ID: <19991223164303.55241.qmail@hotmail.com> Lance writes..... "Well, gang, what does the collective wisdom say about straightening resin wings that have warped into a pretty good imitation of a corkscrew? Do people dunk them in (very) hot water and THEN tape them flat? Or tape them flat and then dunk them?" A bit of both is the answer. Hopefuly if the warp is not too bade you will be abe to tape it to something flat and ridgid, but if it's worse than that then some preliminary work is need before getting to tha stage. "How hot is too hot on the water?" Not so hot that you cannot put your hand in it. Repeted application is the way to go, not a quick dunk into an active volcano. " Do I run the risk of melting (or at least softening) the details?" Yes you do, another reason not to go OOT with the temperature. Remember that resin is plastic in the other sense of the word and tends to return to it's original shape if steps are not taken to prevent it. For this reason it is just as important to dunk the work in cold water after straightening. If it's still not straight leave it a while to cool thouroughly before trying again. What's the kit? hth Peter after Cary Grant :-3 how about Bella Lugosi >-I ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:54:21 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Resin Kits Message-ID: Thanks, Peter... Happy Christmas. What's the kit? - Copper State's Brandenburg W.12. I hope my wife has a big enough pot for those wings... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:32:05 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Resin Kits Message-ID: <0.5aaf52f7.2593b695@aol.com> In a message dated 99-12-23 11:27:24 EST, you write: << How hot is too hot on the water? Do I run the risk of melting (or at least softening) the details? >> Bring it to just at - but not over - the boiling point - DO NOT BOIL. I put it in by itself, let it return to original shape, pulll it out and hold it - DO NOT TAPE IT - on a ruler or something, then run it quickly under cold water to "freeze" if in shape. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:11:08 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Pegasus DH2 First Look. Message-ID: <005601bf4d6c$cf8882a0$30847ed4@mesh> Greetings, Just arrived this morning is this latest offering from Pegasus. As is to be expected the parts closely match the Datafile drawings, except that the chord of the wings is slightly generous, which is useful as my example has a small moulding fault. Plastic is the familiar pale grey, with the familiar problems with the moulding gates needing extreme care when removing parts. Especial care will be needed with the tailplane, which for some reason has been given 4 (Four!) gates. All parts are commendably thin, including the nacelle which will, however, need cleaning up internally. The kit makes up to a late 1916 model with the enlarged compass housing bulge. Booms are supplied as stainless steel rod, leaving the struts to be made from the supplied, very fine, extruded plastic aerofoil rod. Metal parts comprise the nacelle floor and seat, the undercarriage legs and wheels, the engine and propeller, the Lewis gun, the elvator control horns and the tailskid. All parts, metal and plastic, will need flash carefully removing. Decals are for 7907 of B Flight 32 Squadron. All in all a neat kit, not to be recommended to a raw beginner, but one which will benefit from a bit of detailing in the rather large open office. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:43:39 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Resin Kits Message-ID: <001f01bf4d6d$4035b9a0$4d0356d1@default> > Bring it to just at - but not over - the boiling point - DO NOT BOIL. I put > it in by itself, let it return to original shape, pulll it out and hold it - > DO NOT TAPE IT - on a ruler or something, then run it quickly under cold > water to "freeze" if in shape. > > HTH > > Tom Cleaver Tom has it right with the "Freeze" concept. I accidently melted the top wing of my Passchendaele D.II by placing it too close to a 100 watt light bulb.The unsupported end took a complete 90 degree bend. I have a composite material slab on my bench. It is flat, cold and heavy. I slapped the wing flat on the surface and just held it there till it cooled. Perfect 100% recovery. I believe the fully supported cooling did the trick. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:51:28 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tally Message-ID: <38626120.5CFD992@wireweb.net> Peter, the URL refuses to connect for me. Lee Peter Leonard wrote: > John, a few blank pages still, but no doubt my credit card and I will be > visiting http://www.bigfoot.com/~AcesModels on many future occasions. Hope > you make a mint. > > Peter > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "John Sharp" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Tally > Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:22:32 -0500 (EST) > > Hi folks > > I've been lurking/catching up for a few weeks but here's my score for the > year: > > 0 > > However, i did get one Aviatik to th 80% mark prior to the box dropping on > it ..... > > Let me say though that listening to you lot has been a great source of > inspiration and I have a cupboard full of started and waiting to go projects > for next year, all I need is to give up work and then there might be half a > chance of getting through some of them, along with the railway(s), the tanks > and the other kind of aircraft that make sucking noises. > > Another source of business has been learning to do web sites and you may > care to visit my first fruits at > > www.bigfoot.com/~AcesModels > > All comments on speed quality design contact welcome , orders even more so! > > All the best for Christmas and lets hope all our kits are Y2K compatable! > > John Sharp > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:49:29 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <001a01bf4d6e$10c8ce40$808c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Peter wrote: " Let that be a lesson to you. In future be more careful in your choice of friends :) " Uh, Peter, I think that was Brent who had the Waldo palmed off on him. All of my Waldo's were voluntarily self inflicted. *My* friends would never sink to such depths. ; ) Brad Now thinking of starting one of my Waldo Dolphins in an effort to hurry Blue Max along. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:58 AM Subject: Re: WWI Pilots >Brad..."I received a Waldo H-B W.29 from a good friend. " > > >Let that be a lesson to you. In future be more careful in your choice of >friends :) > >Peter >(aka Waldo) >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:12:56 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Resin Kits Message-ID: <199912231815.KAA15251@smtpout.telus.net> Toms point about not taping is really important, I nearly ruined a He 51 fuselage because the tape can cause other distortions. Ray On 23 Dec 99, at 12:48, smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > > Bring it to just at - but not over - the boiling point - DO NOT BOIL. I > put > > it in by itself, let it return to original shape, pulll it out and hold > it - > > DO NOT TAPE IT - on a ruler or something, then run it quickly under cold > > water to "freeze" if in shape. > > > > HTH > > > > Tom Cleaver > > > Tom has it right with the "Freeze" concept. > > I accidently melted the top wing of my Passchendaele D.II by placing it too > close to a 100 watt light bulb.The unsupported end took a complete 90 degree > bend. I have a composite material slab on my bench. It is flat, cold and > heavy. I slapped the wing flat on the surface and just held it there till it > cooled. Perfect 100% recovery. I believe the fully supported cooling did > the trick. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:20:10 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <0.d17f947c.2593c1da@aol.com> In a message dated 12/22/99 7:33:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, lance.krieg@amerus.com writes: << Munson wants: "a Gotha or Handley-Page in 1/48" Aurora's old Gotha is 1/48, but will require a LOT of work to accurize, assuming you can find one. But CSM will release a G.III (Right?) in 2000. No joy on the HP. >> "no joy" on the HP.....that's about right.........heck, I'll sell you a built up one for only $2,347,811.72.(of which maybe $40 went into material, the rest being to pay for mental wear and tear) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:20:07 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz DIIIa Colours Message-ID: <0.5cb90418.2593c1d7@aol.com> In a message dated 12/22/99 5:07:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, bigglesrfc@globalserve.net writes: << "All D.III and D.IIIa series aircraft left the factory with fuselage and surfaces painted with aluminum paint, but were often brilliantly decorated for personal and squadron identification." Quote from 'Pfalz' by Peter Grosz and Egon Kruger, WW1 Aero Publishers, Inc. Pg. 11 Does this mean that lozenge wings were a field mod.? Brad >> I guess maybe the info contained in the old Grosz and Krueger booklet (1964 or so) has been superceded- the D.IIIa Datafile has "...a large number of Pfalz D.IIIa fighters in the later production batches left the factory with their wings covered in either four or five colour printed pattern fabric.........In many cases wheel discs, elevator and rudder were also covered in the same material, but not universally so." .............and being lifelong Pfalz Pfan, I LOVE that old booklet. Also have the issue of Air Progress that printed almost the entire thing, word for word and picture for picture- March 1964 I think it was. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:20:08 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <0.23c78b7b.2593c1d8@aol.com> In a message dated 12/22/99 10:06:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, dcf@mars.ark.com writes: << Let's have no "flaming" >> Amen, Dave. A well built 1/72 model will always catch my eye- I just prefer the larger scales to build for my own pleasure. Give me enough room and space and I'd do nothing but inch to the foot stuff. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:20:11 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Copper State's Lozenge. Message-ID: <0.4d27497e.2593c1db@aol.com> In a message dated 12/21/99 10:00:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, DavidL1217@aol.com writes: << I visited CSM's website to check out their 1/28 lozenge for the D7. I was very pleased to see in the web pic was appears to be the first proper depiction of the 'fuzziness' of the material. >> This "fuzziness" or lack thereof has been of the things that displeases me about most lozenge decals- most look like hard edged painted blocks whereas the real stuff had the shapes gently overlapping...... even in small scales, this would make a visible textural difference. The overlapping has been described as a "gentle stained glass window effect"- can't remember where I read this! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:20:09 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bamboo struts Message-ID: <0.8aba9dfd.2593c1d9@aol.com> In a message dated 12/22/99 8:35:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << ....."bamboo"...... Steve Perry/Robert Karr - are you there? >> well shucks, by the time I got "here"- it looks like all has been pretty well covered! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:20:12 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <0.95b6ad0.2593c1dc@aol.com> In a message dated 12/21/99 8:03:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, topbari@pacbell.net writes: << Is there a Gotha or Handley-Page in 1/48 that you know of? -- CHORD-ially, Munson Hinman (topbari@pacbell.net) >> I could break my scratchbuilt 1/48 HP into pieces and sell them to you as kit- slightly less than 3 million bucks will seal the deal. RK ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2046 **********************