WWI Digest 2045 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: scales? by "Matthew Bittner" 2) Re: 1/72nd vacs request by "Matthew Bittner" 3) Christmas Greetings from the Front by "Sandy Adam" 4) Re: scales? by "Lance Krieg" 5) Re: Re: Fokker D.VII without lozenges by GRBroman@aol.com 6) Re: Re: scales? by GRBroman@aol.com 7) Cleaver's Albatros by "Lance Krieg" 8) Re: scales? by "Matt Bittner" 9) Re: Cleaver's Albatros by Marlon Schultz 10) Bamboo struts by "Michael Kendix" 11) Re: Cleaver's Albatros by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 12) Re: scales? by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 13) Re: Cleaver's Albatros by Albatrosdv@aol.com 14) Re: Cleaver's Albatros by Albatrosdv@aol.com 15) Re: Cleaver's Albatros by Albatrosdv@aol.com 16) Re: Bamboo struts by smperry@mindspring.com 17) Re: scales? by "David C. Fletcher" 18) Re: Cleaver's Albatros by "Lance Krieg" 19) Re: scales? by Matthew Zivich 20) Re: scales? by "Michael Kendix" 21) Scale Models FS by BOBFABRIS@delphi.com 22) RE: Bamboo struts by Shane Weier 23) RE: Cleaver's Albatros by Shane Weier 24) Re: Bamboo struts by smperry@mindspring.com 25) Season's greetings by Pedro e Francisca 26) Re: scales? by ERIC HIGHT 27) Colt? by "D Charles" 28) Pfalz DIIIa Colours by "Brad Gossen" 29) Re: Pfalz DIIIa Colours by smperry@mindspring.com 30) Re: scales? by Munson Hinman 31) WWI Pilots by Brent & Tina Theobald ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:36:24 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <199912221138.DAA18254@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:06:38 -0500 (EST), Munson Hinman wrote: > I've seen some very nice photos of mostly 1/72 and 1/48 models. My > perception of 1/72 is they look kinda toylike. But the 1/48 gives me an > impression of a fuselage too large. Is that just my imagination? I > don't see much talk about 1/32 or 1/24. I don't want to build in > multiple scales. I want to pick one and stay with it. Is there a Gotha > or Handley-Page in 1/48 that you know of? I am so tired of people saying 1/72nd looks "toylike". I send you not only to view Steve Hustad's photo's, but Alberto Casirati's as well. I know from the club here that I put more work into my 1/72nd models than most 1/48th *builders* put into theirs. If you doubt that, look at Alberto's Albatros D.V before he glued the fuselage halves on. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:37:34 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: 1/72nd vacs request Message-ID: <199912221139.DAA18861@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:37:53 -0500 (EST), Mike Fletcher wrote: > There has been at least two kits of the Nieuport mono - one was a > Libramodels vac and the other a truely horrible russian injection kit (I > never did figure out who the company was who made it) but I only have a > 70% complete russian kit in my posession. I'm pretty sure that was done by Ajax. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:42:12 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Christmas Greetings from the Front Message-ID: <002701bf4c71$b0a6cc80$2ae8b094@sandyada> Hi Guys Long time no speak! - just sooo busy - I'm briefly de-lurking to send all the best Christmas wishes from frozen Scotland. Coupla crumbs that might be of interest - I got a flier from Air-Britain for their next File - The DH4/DH9, due in January, cost 30GBP (24 to members). Got the Airfix history book - seems that the next in the 1/24 aircraft line, had it continued, was going to be either a Sopwith Camel or a Gloster Gladiator! Latest SAMI announces two new 1/32 kits from Hobbycraft (- one is a SPAD but I can't remember the other as my son has pinched the mag - might have been an Albatros?) Built a few kits over the last two or three months - I've finished the Tom's Pfalz D.VIII, the CSM Pfalz DrI and the Eduard Pfalz D.III. Presently working on JMGT Pfalz E.I and Eduard Pfalz A.II (M-S L). Fondling BM Pfalz D.XII and BM Pfalz D.IIIa! Might even manage a D.III triplane conversion after that lot. Will send pics next Millennium! Anyway best wishes for Crimbo and merry celebrations for New Year (Scots are being sensible this year - we normally have two days holiday (rest of UK has one) - but this year we are having three!!! Employers are just being realistic!) Best regards Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:29:04 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: Munson wants: "a Gotha or Handley-Page in 1/48" Aurora's old Gotha is 1/48, but will require a LOT of work to accurize, assuming you can find one. But CSM will release a G.III (Right?) in 2000. No joy on the HP. Hey, Matt, you seem a little testy for a guy that dabbles with toys. I suppose that the tight focus you must maintain in that dinky scale results in headaches... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:32:24 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Fokker D.VII without lozenges Message-ID: <0.ad8224fd.25924908@aol.com> In a message dated 12/21/99, 8:11:07 PM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: <> Yes, this is another good one. I must confess that I am a sucker for unusual schemes. My British Mark IV's are done in german schemes as captured tanks, a USMC DH-4, two HP 0/400's in non PC 10 schemes, one of which is a project for the Arsenal museum which made mounting apparati for the Billy Mitchell bombing experiments. A Hanriot HD.2 floatplane with USS Arizona emblazoned on the side. Once, in the dim dark past, I converted a Airfix DH-4 to a Boeing O2B-1, which is basically a DH-4 with a metal fuselage. I have another scheme for a project that is but partially completed for a DH-9 in A squadron, First Marine Field Force in France in 1918. All a bit off the beaten track. Sopwith Pups and Spads in checkers? I'm there. God bless Blue Rider :) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:43:28 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: scales? Message-ID: <0.78c165f3.25924ba0@aol.com> In a message dated 12/22/99, 5:40:26 AM, Matt sayeth: << I know from the club here that I put more work into my 1/72nd models than most 1/48th *builders* put into theirs>> Heck Matt, you put more work into *one* 1/72 scale model than I've put into *all* of my 1/72 models :) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:45:22 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: Tom, I was admiring your handiwork on Alan's web site, and noticed that you express uncertainty over the unit affiliation of the D.III. While the pilot is a mystery, I don't think there is much doubt that it is a Jasta 5 machine, and has been identified as such by a number of recognized experts. It appears in the famous Boistrancourt lineup photos of that unit and bears most of the identifying marks. Glen Merrill goes so far as to speculate that it is an ace or kette leader's plane because of the top wing chevron. I question that an accomplished jagdflieger would be flying a D.III when newer and improved machines were commonly available, but who knows? HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:48:06 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <199912221541.JAA21631@itd.sterling.com> On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:34:26 -0500 (EST), Lance Krieg wrote: > Hey, Matt, you seem a little testy for a guy that dabbles with toys. I suppose that the tight focus you must maintain in that dinky scale results in headaches... The only headache I get is from people in Des Moines... :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:13:13 -0600 From: Marlon Schultz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: Most German pilots and the airforce command considered the Albatros D.III and in particular the O.A.W. built version to be superior to the Albatros D.V Marlon >>> "Lance Krieg" 12/22 9:52 AM >>> Tom, I was admiring your handiwork on Alan's web site, and noticed that you express uncertainty over the unit affiliation of the D.III. While the pilot is a mystery, I don't think there is much doubt that it is a Jasta 5 machine, and has been identified as such by a number of recognized experts. It appears in the famous Boistrancourt lineup photos of that unit and bears most of the identifying marks. Glen Merrill goes so far as to speculate that it is an ace or kette leader's plane because of the top wing chevron. I question that an accomplished jagdflieger would be flying a D.III when newer and improved machines were commonly available, but who knows? HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:31:33 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Bamboo struts Message-ID: <19991222163133.87594.qmail@hotmail.com> The Roseplane Farman F-40bis kit contains no strut material. I have some plastic stuff from Contrail(?). Made a couple last night and the resuls were OK but I would like to try using bamboo. I've tracked down a local "Asian Market" for a source of bamboo but I would like a clear explanation of how the struts are made. For example, tools that were useful in making them and how they should be painted them to give a wood grain appearance. I know there have been snippets of this method on the list before, but when I tried to search the archives under "bamboo", nothing came up (this was odd, so possibly something is wrong with my search method or the site). Steve Perry/Robert Karr - are you there? Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:53:08 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: <199912221655.IAA04412@smtpout.telus.net> I was about to say something similar to Marlon, when the DIII had its wing problems, some pilots MVR included went back to flying Halberstadts until the wings were fixed. So it would seem to me that the same would have happened when the DV and DVa had there infamous problems. One thing I have always wondered about is why the heck didn't anyone make use of what was learned from the Austro-Hungarian versions of the DIII. They were superior aircraft and they didn't suffer from the infamous wing problems that the DIII, DV and DVa had. You have to think that both the German High Command and Albatros must have been aware of the superiority...... Ray On 22 Dec 99, at 11:17, Marlon Schultz wrote: > Most German pilots and the airforce command considered the Albatros > D.III and in particular the O.A.W. built version to be superior to the > Albatros D.V > > Marlon > > >>> "Lance Krieg" 12/22 9:52 AM >>> > Tom, I was admiring your handiwork on Alan's web site, and noticed > that you express uncertainty over the unit affiliation of the D.III. > lots snipped > accomplished jagdflieger would be flying a D.III when newer and > improved machines were commonly available, but who knows? > > HTH > > Lance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:53:08 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <199912221655.IAA04416@smtpout.telus.net> Munson, Not sure what you mean by toylike. Its always seemed to me that the toylike can be attached to any of the scales. The modeler is the one who turns something that can look like a toy into a small scale simulation. If you look at the links from Al's web page you will see some models in 1/72 and 1/48 that are as far from toys as you can get and imho some of the best representations of modeling that I have seen (in any scale including 1/4 and 1/6 - I used to build radio control btw). Now if your describing my models then well the toylike fits ;) Ray On 21 Dec 99, at 23:06, Munson Hinman wrote: > I've seen some very nice photos of mostly 1/72 and 1/48 models. My > perception of 1/72 is they look kinda toylike. But the 1/48 gives me an > impression of a fuselage too large. Is that just my imagination? I > don't see much talk about 1/32 or 1/24. I don't want to build in > multiple scales. I want to pick one and stay with it. Is there a Gotha > or Handley-Page in 1/48 that you know of? > -- > CHORD-ially, > Munson Hinman (topbari@pacbell.net) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:04:13 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: <0.1db6c70f.25925e8d@aol.com> Thanks! Next question - none of the markings instructions said anything about a Jasta 5 green tail for the horizontal stab. What would be the situation there?? Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:05:42 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: <0.b1779472.25925ee6@aol.com> In a message dated 99-12-22 10:49:38 EST, you write: << While the pilot is a mystery, I don't think there is much doubt that it is a Jasta 5 machine, and has been identified as such by a number of recognized experts. It appears in the famous Boistrancourt lineup photos of that unit and bears most of the identifying marks. >> Should have put this in so people would know why I asked the question on my Albatros D.III: should the horizontal stab be a "green tail"?? The markings instructions said nothing about that. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:06:58 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: <0.cb765ef3.25925f32@aol.com> In a message dated 99-12-22 11:14:49 EST, you write: << Most German pilots and the airforce command considered the Albatros D.III and in particular the O.A.W. built version to be superior to the Albatros D.V Marlon >> Good point. The article "Agile and Aggressive Albatros" in AE#1 also states that as late as April 1918 there were 171 D.IIIs in service on the Western Front. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:37:23 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Bamboo struts Message-ID: <001101bf4ca3$35a2b8a0$080a56d1@default> Michael: FWIW, here's my method. It's worked well on the Il'ya and a 1/48 twin bay scout. First I make planks. I use the skewers available in the housewares section of most American grocery markets. The skewers are better than an eighth of an inch in diameter maybe even a quarter inch. I split them down the center with a #11 blade. Bamboo splits real well. I then split each piece (seni circle cross section) again and keep the inner sections and discard the outter rounded sections. Next I sand the planks flat on both sides to the desired thickness. When that dimesion is satisfactory, I cut the blanks to length. Now I whittle/sand the blanks to the desired profile shape. Bamboo sands surprisingly well. Finally I sand the struts to an airfoil shaped cross section. To finish them, I paint with Testors Wood and then when dry I mark them up with brown watercolor pencil and blend with Future. In quarter scale I will drill a small hole into each end and CA in a piece of brass wire which is later nipped to aboit 1/32" in length after the glue has set. These pins fit into holes I have drilled in the correct positions on the wings. hth sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 06:34:44 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <3860E183.8084072D@mars.ark.com> Munson Hinman wrote: "I've seen some very nice photos of mostly 1/72 and 1/48 models. My perception of 1/72 is they look kinda toylike..." All the acrimony about "scale wars" apart, Munson makes a valid point. It is more difficult to make a 1/72nd scale model look as "real" as a 1/48th scale or larger kit. The distortion from actual scale thicknesses of the various parts and pieces becomes more obvious the further from the original scale the replica is reproduced. Just look at most 1/144th scale kits to be convinced. I long ago learned that even the most pleasing model needed to be photographed - distortions that the eye was correcting for quickly became obvious when the print was studied. The most obvious points that made a model look less than "real" were lack of evident weight on the landing gear and tires, windshields that did not appear to be an integral part of the aeroplane and struts that were of greater than scale thickness. Master modeller's can overcome these challenges but, the smaller the scale, the less the likelihood of success. Those who achieve that success have my admiration, and may I have your left-over spectacles please? Let's have no "flaming" for what was a valid observation of models produced by the majority. Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:35:09 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: Tom asks: "...a Jasta 5 green tail for the horizontal stab. What would be the situation there?" It shows on good copies of the prints in question, and even on the lineup shot in C&C 18/3: just the way you modeled it. Only the vertical stabilizer and fin are in the Bavarian Wappenfarbe, the rest of the tail is pure Jasta 5. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:52:09 -0500 From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <38612BE9.BD2B9B27@svsu.edu> I have virtually given up on 1/72 scale fighter aircraft in favor of 1/48th, mainly for practical reasons and a little bit of philosophical reasoning as well. It's just easier to use your hands on a larger scale and detail, say, like the lift handles on the aft fuselage of an Alb. D-Va are difficult enough to create in 1/48th but would be practically nonexistent on a 1/72 model because they would be just too small to make a difference. When I think of the 1/72nds I've made in the past I have the feeling I was more of a watchmaker who could marvel at the manual dexterity to create something small. It seemed that the "smallness" was what was important over all and not the aesthetic interest in the subject. Matt Zivich "David C. Fletcher" wrote: > Munson Hinman wrote: > > "I've seen some very nice photos of mostly 1/72 and 1/48 models. My > perception of 1/72 is they look kinda toylike..." > > All the acrimony about "scale wars" apart, Munson makes a valid point. > It is more difficult to make a 1/72nd scale model look as "real" as a > 1/48th scale or larger kit. The distortion from actual scale > thicknesses of the various parts and pieces becomes more obvious the > further from the original scale the replica is reproduced. Just look at > most 1/144th scale kits to be convinced. I long ago learned that even > the most pleasing model needed to be photographed - distortions that the > eye was correcting for quickly became obvious when the print was > studied. The most obvious points that made a model look less than > "real" were lack of evident weight on the landing gear and tires, > windshields that did not appear to be an integral part of the aeroplane > and struts that were of greater than scale thickness. Master modeller's > can overcome these challenges but, the smaller the scale, the less the > likelihood of success. > > Those who achieve that success have my admiration, and may I have your > left-over spectacles please? Let's have no "flaming" for what was a > valid observation of models produced by the majority. > > Dave Fletcher > -- > Visit us at our Home Page: > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:30:08 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <19991222203008.18099.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: Matthew Zivich > >I have virtually given up on 1/72 scale fighter aircraft in favor of > >1/48th, mainly for practical reasons and a little bit of >philosophical >reasoning as well. It's just easier to use your hands >on a larger scale >and detail, say, like the lift handles on the aft >fuselage of an Alb. D-Va >are difficult enough to create in 1/48th >but would be practically >nonexistent on a 1/72 model because they >would be just too small to make a >difference. >When I think of the 1/72nds I've made in the past I have the feeling >I was >more of a watchmaker who could marvel at the manual dexterity >to create >something small. It seemed that the "smallness" was what >was important >over all and not the aesthetic interest in the subject. > I can understand that some folks' eyesight just cannot accomodate 1/72nd scale WWI but the argument you make is, as you say, aesthetic. I like having my stuff to the same scale, so I'm sort of locked in but I too have practical reasons for choosing 1/72nd scale, which include: 1. Less expensive kits. 2. Takes up less room. Most important in our house since our fair sized family abode has children's toys, videos and games in every room, including the toilet and sometimes even, down the toilet! (Had to retrieve the metal ball from "Mousetrap" last week). 3. I can sometmes fit 4 models in one of those 9" x 9" clear "trophy" cases from the "Container Store" (this is related to reason 2 above). 4. More choice in WWI subjects, especially now I've gotten over vac-phobia (see Steve Schofield's list). Need I say more? Probably, I've said enough. Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:57:27 -0500 (EST) From: BOBFABRIS@delphi.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Scale Models FS Message-ID: <01JJT3BOS1R690AB9C@delphi.com> Seven years of the British Scale Models magazine - featuring Ray Rimell's models and P.G. Cooksley's drawings, plus lots of OT stuff. '70-'77 12./yr,ppd, contact offline. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:05:18 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Bamboo struts Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B44@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Michael, I'm a bamboo believer too! SP says (more or less what I would have) > First I make planks. I use the skewers available in the > housewares section of most American grocery markets. You can get thinner skewers nearer to 1/72 strut size, but you're better to do what SP does since the thin ones are difficult to get a flat plank out of as the first step. Bamboo chopsticks are *excellent* IMHO because (if you get the right ones) the handle end is squared off, making it easy and economical to shave into useable strips. > > Next I sand the planks flat on both sides to the desired > thickness. When > that dimesion is satisfactory, I cut the blanks to length. At this point we digress. I start to form the aerofoil on over length strips. I find it easier to handle if there's a bit of extra length to hold on to. Once I have the aerofoil I start to carve the profile so that I have a properly shaped strut of correct length stuck to the end of an extra inch or so of partially shaped bamboo. The extra bit is then used to hold the strut while I finish it > To finish them, I paint with Testors Wood and then when dry I > mark them up with brown watercolor pencil and blend with Future. I don't paint them - just stain covered by several coats of clear to fill the grain. The grain of the bamboo will simulate the wood grain better than I could paint it (even with my beloved watercolour pencils), and depending on the stain colour the bamboo can look like any sort of wood. > > In quarter scale I will drill a small hole into each end and > CA in a piece of brass wire which is later nipped to aboit 1/32" Ditto. Makes a nice strong structure. For an example of my bamboo struts - see the Biff Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:15:12 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Cleaver's Albatros Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B45@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom, Lance notes: > While the pilot is a mystery, I don't think there is much > doubt that it is a Jasta 5 machine, and has been identified > as such by a number of recognized experts. It appears in the > famous Boistrancourt lineup photos of that unit and bears > most of the identifying marks. It's unquestionably a Jasta 5 machine IMHO. And the pilot is no longer unknown - though I for one don't know his name. *However* this will be revealed when the announced Jasta 5 Fabric Special is published (soon, please, please). Release of the new Eduard Albatros in 1/72 makes a complete lineup feasible, though the D.III's will still be a bother ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:15:11 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Bamboo struts Message-ID: <003001bf4cca$04851ac0$120d56d1@default> > At this point we digress. I start to form the aerofoil on over length > strips. I find it easier to handle if there's a bit of extra length to hold > on to. Once I have the aerofoil I start to carve the profile so that I have > a properly shaped strut of correct length stuck to the end of an extra inch > or so of partially shaped bamboo. The extra bit is then used to hold the > strut while I finish it DUH, I broke 3 struts last time shaping the airfoil. I wouldn't have using your handle idea. Consider it stolen, adopted and used. Live & learn from a master. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:10:05 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: WW1 modeling list Subject: Season's greetings Message-ID: <38615A4D.2560EB39@mail.telepac.pt> Ladies and Gentlemen May the man in red be generous with his plastic to all of you and may new year bring us all health, peace , understanding and joy (I know this sounds pretty stereotyped but I do mean it). Feliz Natal e um Prospero Ano Novo Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:58:38 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991222165838.009aaddc@pop.amug.org> lance, you are right on both counts! eric At 10:34 AM 12/22/99 -0500, you wrote: >Munson wants: > >"a Gotha or Handley-Page in 1/48" > >Aurora's old Gotha is 1/48, but will require a LOT of work to accurize, assuming you can find one. But CSM will release a G.III (Right?) in 2000. No joy on the HP. > >Hey, Matt, you seem a little testy for a guy that dabbles with toys. I suppose that the tight focus you must maintain in that dinky scale results in headaches... > >Lance > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:11:57 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Colt? Message-ID: <000201bf4cde$676842c0$d9b93ecb@charles> Colt?? :-) >They're racing, first out of the gates is the colt from down under, but >what's this...he's stalled and the challenger is fast approaching...... > > >Shane Colt? COLT ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:01:09 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Pfalz DIIIa Colours Message-ID: <001301bf4ce1$58f88da0$928c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> "All D.III and D.IIIa series aircraft left the factory with fuselage and surfaces painted with aluminum paint, but were often brilliantly decorated for personal and squadron identification." Quote from 'Pfalz' by Peter Grosz and Egon Kruger, WW1 Aero Publishers, Inc. Pg. 11 Does this mean that lozenge wings were a field mod.? Brad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:09:46 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Pfalz DIIIa Colours Message-ID: <002101bf4ce2$67c755e0$280b56d1@default> > Does this mean that lozenge wings were a field mod.? > > Brad More like bullet holes and landing damage were the field mods. The Lozenge fabric was a field repair. sorry;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:04:53 -0800 From: Munson Hinman To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: topbari@pacbell.net Subject: Re: scales? Message-ID: <38619F65.390@pacbell.net> Sorry, Matt, I didn't mean to insult anyone by saying "toylike," but here's what I mean: I like exact scale. To me it seems that small parts, such as cabane struts or even wing struts would be too tiny in 1/72 scale to be accurate, and that what I see, if amplified to full scale, would be fat. Just my impression. That doesn't detract from the beauty of the photos I've seen, though. -- CHORD-ially, Munson Hinman (topbari@pacbell.net) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:50:30 -0600 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WWI Pilots Message-ID: <3861AA16.3C9AB064@airmail.net> Howdy and Season's Greetings! I received a Waldo H-B W.29 from a good friend. I think it looks okay, but I don't feel like detailing the interior. I thought I'd just stuff a crew into the aircraft. Thereby obscuring any interior detail. Any thoughts on where I could appropriate a crew without too much trouble? WWI German or post war Finnish would be fine. Thank you, Brent ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2045 **********************