WWI Digest 2041 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: First vac by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: First vac by "Dale Beamish" 3) Re: First vac by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 4) Re: First vac by "Dale Beamish" 5) Re: new - Blue Max and plywood question by Witold Kozakiewicz 6) Re: Year End Tally by hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de 7) Re: Year End Tally by Munson Hinman 8) you say "OT" and I say "ot" was Re: Year End Tally by "Peter Leonard" 9) Re: Year End Tally by Witold Kozakiewicz 10) AMT DH4 by "Peter Leonard" 11) Re: you say "OT" and I say "ot" was Re: Year End Tally by hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de 12) Re: Apostolo "Profiles" book by Dennis Ugulano 13) Re: AMT DH4 by Tom Solinski 14) Year 2000 Release by "Matt Bittner" 15) Holtzem's Pfalz D.IIIa & Voss Tripe. by Marlon Schultz 16) Re: Year 2000 Release by peter crow 17) Re: Year 2000 Release by "Peter Leonard" 18) Re: Year 2000 Release by "Dale Beamish" 19) Re: Missing link by Allan Wright 20) Building a Better Idiot by "Lance Krieg" 21) CSM Brandenburg W12 by "Lance Krieg" 22) Re: Building a Better Idiot by "cameron rile" 23) Re: Year 2000 Release by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 24) Re: Year 2000 Release by "Michael Kendix" 25) Holtzem Photo by Marlon Schultz 26) Re: Year 2000 Release by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: starting to build by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Jim Landon's Holiday by "Lee Mensinger" 29) Re: Year 2000 Release by "Brad Gossen" 30) Re: Jim Landon's Holiday by Albatrosdv@aol.com 31) Re: Jim Landon's Holiday by "Lance Krieg" 32) RE: Building a Better Idiot by Shane Weier 33) Re: Building a Better Idiot by Zulis@aol.com 34) Re: Jim Landon's Holiday by "Lee Mensinger" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:43:47 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First vac Message-ID: <385DC212.88F94B65@bellsouth.net> Dale Beamish wrote: > And just think. One time you used to be able to drive eight hours to just > see an old Nie! I know, I know. And I could sit around in my shorts building models from 5:30pm fri till 2:30am mon and the stripper I was dating would just say, "Ok, call me when you feel like being sociable". We would play this game where I was a wounded pilot and she was a french nurse... Sorry, I was just trying to get this OT. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:47:22 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: First vac Message-ID: <005c01bf4aad$b17cb180$03000004@darcy> Nasty isn't he? LOL That wounded soldier I would like to see Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 19 December, 1999 10:46 PM Subject: Re: First vac > > > Dale Beamish wrote: > > > And just think. One time you used to be able to drive eight hours to just > > see an old Nie! > > I know, I know. And I could sit around in my shorts building models from > 5:30pm fri till 2:30am mon and the stripper I was dating would just say, "Ok, > call me when you feel like being sociable". We would play this game where I > was a wounded pilot and she was a french nurse... > Sorry, I was just trying to get this OT. > E. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:27:42 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First vac Message-ID: <199912200630.WAA04415@smtpout.telus.net> I wonder who was playing the pilot and who the nurse ;) On 20 Dec 99, at 0:55, Dale Beamish wrote: > Nasty isn't he? > LOL That wounded soldier I would like to see > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ernest Thomas > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: 19 December, 1999 10:46 PM > Subject: Re: First vac > > > > > > > > Dale Beamish wrote: > > > > > And just think. One time you used to be able to drive eight hours to > just > > > see an old Nie! > > > > I know, I know. And I could sit around in my shorts building models from > > 5:30pm fri till 2:30am mon and the stripper I was dating would just say, > "Ok, > > call me when you feel like being sociable". We would play this game where > I > > was a wounded pilot and she was a french nurse... > > Sorry, I was just trying to get this OT. > > E. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:33:41 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: First vac Message-ID: <000901bf4ab4$b24b20e0$03000004@darcy> My thoughts exactly Ray! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 19 December, 1999 11:34 PM Subject: Re: First vac > I wonder who was playing the pilot and who the nurse ;) > > On 20 Dec 99, at 0:55, Dale Beamish wrote: > > > Nasty isn't he? > > LOL That wounded soldier I would like to see > > Dale > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ernest Thomas > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Sent: 19 December, 1999 10:46 PM > > Subject: Re: First vac > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dale Beamish wrote: > > > > > > > And just think. One time you used to be able to drive eight hours to > > just > > > > see an old Nie! > > > > > > I know, I know. And I could sit around in my shorts building models from > > > 5:30pm fri till 2:30am mon and the stripper I was dating would just say, > > "Ok, > > > call me when you feel like being sociable". We would play this game where > > I > > > was a wounded pilot and she was a french nurse... > > > Sorry, I was just trying to get this OT. > > > E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:18:45 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new - Blue Max and plywood question Message-ID: <385DE665.C4280A32@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Thanks to all I'll try with smperry dry brushed decals, it look easy to do and is cheaper than buying aftermarket decals. I've built Hansa-Brandenburg D.I with propagteam plywood decals and I'm not satisfied with this. Model looks great but ply is little unnatural. And I decided to buy that Blue Max. I start with Pfalz D.XII and Nieuport 28. At Hannants in UK they are even cheaper than on Pegasus site. Thanks again. I will be reading this list, and let me sometimes ask some questions. Wish You Merry Christmast and Happy New Year with lots of your dreamed models under tree. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:32:32 +0100 From: hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: Hello i have only done 5 this year ot: Fokker D VII Udet (Revell) Fokker D VII Gabriel (Esci) Fokker Dr. I Jacobs (Revell) OT Republic F-84 (Tamiya) -best 1/72 model i have seen so far MiG-29 (Italeri) still doing - maybe i can still finish one of these this year Fokker E III (Revel) Fokker D VI (Aeroclub) Boeing 707 (Heller) Roland C II (Airfix) Friedrichshafen G3 (Sierra) Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter (flashback) best ot 1/72 model i have seen happy modelling Hans - Juergen Glueck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 03:02:05 -0800 From: Munson Hinman To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: topbari@pacbell.net Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <385E0CAD.3B1@pacbell.net> This is probably a dumb question, but what does OT stand for? -- CHORD-ially, Munson Hinman (topbari@pacbell.net) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:17:43 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: you say "OT" and I say "ot" was Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <19991220111743.80017.qmail@hotmail.com> Munson, confusing isn't it? "OT" is On Topic, ie WW1 subject matter, whereas "ot" is off topic, ie just about any subject matter other than WW1. There will be a 50 question multiple choice test in January so I hope you're paying attention :) Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:32:48 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <385E13E0.853C6B58@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Aviatik D.I Flashback with little problems with lozenge and repainted stripe on fuselage in black, finished about week ago Fokker E.III, Pfalz D.III, Nieuport 17, Pup, Triplane - all Eduard Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:11:12 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: AMT DH4 Message-ID: <19991220121112.35551.qmail@hotmail.com> It's years since I last saw the AMT DH4. Can anyone tell me whether the rear turtle deck is curved or rectangular? cheers Peter http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com http://www.storks.cwc.net PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:05:57 +0100 From: hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: you say "OT" and I say "ot" was Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: Hello, sorry mixed it up Hans - Juergen Glueck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:07:45 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Apostolo "Profiles" book Message-ID: <199912200908_MC2-91B8-AFD8@compuserve.com> Joey, >> I can't add much to what Mike already said other than, "I LOVE this book". If nothing else it's a great inspiration. If you've got a chance at one, grab it. E. << Let me second what E has said. I love my book also. I picked up it at least 15 years ago and used it extensively. The colors are suspect on many of the profiles but the information is excellent. Like E said, if you can find one, grab it. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/12/99 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:11:07 -0600 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AMT DH4 Message-ID: <385E38FB.F426362A@ionet.net> > It's years since I last saw the AMT DH4. Can anyone tell me whether the rear > turtle deck is curved or rectangular? The answer is YES! There is a flat rectangular section that is as wide as the fuselage at the leading edge of the stabilizer, and a slightly curved fairing section between this rectangle and the aft sides HTH Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:19:20 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <199912201412.IAA15013@itd.sterling.com> Just because I'm bored I thought I would start a new thread. Of the announced kits for next year, which one are you most looking forward to and why? For me, it's a toss up between the Pegasus SPAD 12, and the Toko Gotha G.V. I'm leaning toward the SPAD because it should be accurate, and in 1/72nd we have yet to see new, modern and up-to-date molds of any of the SPAD single seaters. While the Toko G.V will be incredible, personally Toko has a poor "track record" with accuracy. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:41:01 -0600 From: Marlon Schultz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Holtzem's Pfalz D.IIIa & Voss Tripe. Message-ID: If you notice the photo's of his D.IIIa show short straight exaust pipes instead of the standard exaust system we are all used to seeing on Pfalz A/C. Dan Abbott figures they were about 300mm in length. The late Ed Ferko said the first two triplanes had the lower wing crosses on clear doped linen. Marlon Schultz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <19991220150142.22222.qmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> Toko Gotha G.V. --- Matt Bittner wrote: > Just because I'm bored I thought I would start a new > thread. > > Of the announced kits for next year, which one are > you most > looking forward to and why? > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:09:52 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <19991220150952.13384.qmail@hotmail.com> In 1/72 I'll go with the Pegasus SPAD XII too. For my money it is the most elegant of the SPADs and I don't think it has ever been kitted in any medeum or scale. I'm also looking forward to the BE2 from Pegasus. I don't have a problem with Toko on accuracy. They look qood and are vey buildable if my experience with the strutter is anything to go by. In the manly scale I'm spoilt for choice. BM have a couple of goodies lined up, but,again for thier buildability, I look forward to some of the new Eduard kits. I know the Nie 11, SE5 ,and Camel, are all available elsewhere, but possibly not to this standard at this price. Peter http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Matt Bittner" Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Year 2000 Release Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:29:38 -0500 (EST) Just because I'm bored I thought I would start a new thread. Of the announced kits for next year, which one are you most looking forward to and why? For me, it's a toss up between the Pegasus SPAD 12, and the Toko Gotha G.V. I'm leaning toward the SPAD because it should be accurate, and in 1/72nd we have yet to see new, modern and up-to-date molds of any of the SPAD single seaters. While the Toko G.V will be incredible, personally Toko has a poor "track record" with accuracy. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:16:24 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Re: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <008d01bf4afd$cce4ef00$03000004@darcy> I'm looking forward to Eric's ( Copper State Models for the new listees ) Gotha in the proper scale. Eduard's Sopwith Camel and Roland again in the proper scale. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 20 December, 1999 7:29 AM Subject: Year 2000 Release > Just because I'm bored I thought I would start a new thread. > > Of the announced kits for next year, which one are you most > looking forward to and why? > > For me, it's a toss up between the Pegasus SPAD 12, and the Toko > Gotha G.V. I'm leaning toward the SPAD because it should be > accurate, and in 1/72nd we have yet to see new, modern and > up-to-date molds of any of the SPAD single seaters. While the > Toko G.V will be incredible, personally Toko has a poor "track > record" with accuracy. > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Missing link Message-ID: <199912201536.KAA23711@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > http://www.pegasusmodels.com Added to my mailorder sources page. -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:42:58 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Building a Better Idiot Message-ID: On many occasions I have read that the Eduard N.17 is an excellent first choice to begin OT modeling, and I don't disagree. But whatever the advances made by the manufacturers in engineering easier and more comprehensive kits, Mother Nature proves her superiority by providing modelers whose ineptitude and perversity consistently overcome even the most modern manufacturing. I stand before you: Uber-dunce!! Without supplying a lot of embarrassing details, suffice it to say that one should never, ever add fuselage paint and decals until the bottom wing is attached and the joint eradicated, no matter how beguiling a shortcut might seem.... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:54:29 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: CSM Brandenburg W12 Message-ID: I am about to tackle this excellent kit. The parts certainly match Ian Stair's drawings from the datafile and the package is quite complete. I am looking for more references on the plane and the Benz 150 HP engine. Can anybody with a better index than mine point me to relevent photos in WWIAeroplanes, OTF, C&C, or C&CI? TIA Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:53:45 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Building a Better Idiot Message-ID: >Without supplying a lot of embarrassing details, suffice it to say that one >should never, ever add fuselage paint and decals until the bottom wing >is attached and the joint eradicated, no matter how beguiling a shortcut >might seem.... I seem to be able to add to these sort of lists no worries :) Another one to avoid is after the decals dry on the rudder and then scratching at them to how strong they had adhered to the plastic, leaving the decals torn like Freddie Krueger had applied them. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:17:55 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <199912201720.JAA11876@smtpout.telus.net> In 1/72 the Toko Gotha that ones obvious, if its the right shape etc I will be happy. HR models Avro 504 Tom-M Hansa Brandenburg W-12 Omega or A Model Spad A2. In 1/48 the other correct scale Paschendale's Halberstadt D type (John have you worked out which one yet?), BM's Phonix and Roland DVI Spin Spad A2 Eduard Nieuport 11 Datafiles Felixstowe F2A and Short 184. Looking through my list, even 5 years ago I would have said I was dreaming to think they would show up in kit form, talk about a golden age for OT....... Ray Boorman On 20 Dec 99, at 9:29, Matt Bittner wrote: > Just because I'm bored I thought I would start a new thread. > > Of the announced kits for next year, which one are you most > looking forward to and why? > > For me, it's a toss up between the Pegasus SPAD 12, and the Toko > Gotha G.V. I'm leaning toward the SPAD because it should be > accurate, and in 1/72nd we have yet to see new, modern and > up-to-date molds of any of the SPAD single seaters. While the > Toko G.V will be incredible, personally Toko has a poor "track > record" with accuracy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:30:14 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <19991220173014.66517.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: "Matt Bittner" > >Of the announced kits for next year, which one are you most >looking forward to and why? > >For me, it's a toss up between the Pegasus SPAD 12, and the Toko >Gotha G.V. I'm leaning toward the SPAD because it should be >accurate, and in 1/72nd we have yet to see new, modern and >up-to-date molds of any of the SPAD single seaters. While the >Toko G.V will be incredible, personally Toko has a poor "track >record" with accuracy. > Hopefully, HR Model with produce their RAF Be2a and Be2b. Also looking forward to anything that Toko and Eduard/Flashback does in 1/72nd except a Fokker Dr.1 :) Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:38:46 -0600 From: Marlon Schultz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Holtzem Photo Message-ID: I'm sorry but I have no scanner but the photo I mentioned can be seen in Albatros Productions Datafile on the Pfalz.D.IIIa (I believe No. 21). Also I believe Max's family was not awarded the right to write "von" in front of the name Holtzem. Marlon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:00:11 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <0.bfbb2c67.258fc8ab@aol.com> There's supposed to be a very good possibility that Aeroclub will release their 1/48 B.E. series - B.E.2c/2d/12, etc., in 2000. Those would be nice!! Of the others, if BM does the Snipe and the Dolphin at the same quality level as the Camel, I will be happy with them. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:39:02 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: starting to build Message-ID: <0.6126a413.258fdfd6@aol.com> In a message dated 12/19/99 7:18:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, topbari@pacbell.net writes: << My most-used tool was double-edge razor blades (that's all my dad shaved with!). >> Jeez, at least I used single edge blades! An X-acto knife was revelation. Very occasionally I still use dope for some things, and that smell brings it all back. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:44:53 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, "Lee Mensinger" Subject: Jim Landon's Holiday Message-ID: <385E8735.D5DA9BE7@wireweb.net> To all. For anyone that wants to contact the address below, please be patient. His computer has gone astray and isn't being co-operative. He will be back in a while but for now he has gone on Chrstmas Holiday to Iowa and won't be home to take care of the messages that may pile up, for a few days. "Jim Landon" Sent to all as an assist for a friend and his OT Tommy Morse Scout. Hope this message finds all of his friends well and happy with the Holiday Season. Lee ( lemen@wireweb.net ) Cpy of Jim's message below: Lee, My computer is goofed up, can't get to the www, am using my son's laptop. I need you to do me a favor and tell everyone who might be trying to reach me (probably zero). Leaving for Iowa tomorrow too. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:12:25 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Year 2000 Release Message-ID: <002901bf4b26$88eae880$b98c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> CopperState's Armstrong Whitworth FK8 Passchendaele's Halberstadt BM's Dolphin Glencoe DH4 (I'm expecting the worst and then hoping to be pleasantly suprised.) Brad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:19:11 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jim Landon's Holiday Message-ID: <0.45bd1460.258fe93f@aol.com> Anyone going to Christmas in Iowa deserves all the sympathy they can get! :-) Cheers to all of you from the lower left corner, where right now it is a CAVU sky and about 75 degrees F. Winter? Whazzat???? :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:46:07 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Jim Landon's Holiday Message-ID: Tom Cleaver gloats: "Anyone going to Christmas in Iowa deserves all the sympathy they can get! :-)" Well, I'm IN Iowa, where the snow is deep, the windchill is just about minus 5 F, and the sun is burnishing the ice on the roads to a brilliant glare. Jim probably won't survive the trip. Perfect modeling weather, though... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:17:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Building a Better Idiot Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1B2E@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lance > I stand before you: Uber-dunce!! Get in the queue !!! I started rigging my SE-5a last night. Dropped it at about 9pm, breaking off the starboard lower plane. Went to bed at 1am with the situation recovered to exactly the same point as when I started modelling yesterday. This is the second successive model I've dropped during rigging, but the Pegasus LVG actually bounced and lost a few wires without losing any bits :-( Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. 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Havent seen my feet, either.... :-) Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:46:31 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jim Landon's Holiday Message-ID: <385EA3B7.BC81B907@wireweb.net> When you go from the high Rocky Mountains, west of Denver, it can be an improvement. Lee ( for jim) Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > Anyone going to Christmas in Iowa deserves all the sympathy they can get! :-) > > Cheers to all of you from the lower left corner, where right now it is a CAVU > sky and about 75 degrees F. Winter? Whazzat???? :-) > > Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2041 **********************