WWI Digest 2037 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Eduards 1/72 Alb DV + Winter Sale by BStett3770@aol.com 2) Re: Happy birthday to . . .. by Pedro e Francisca 3) re: kit tally by Pedro e Francisca 4) New listees by Pedro e Francisca 5) Re: kit tally by Albatrosdv@aol.com 6) Re: kit tally by "Matthew Bittner" 7) Re: Kit tally by Tom Solinski 8) Re: Off topic quote by Tom Solinski 9) Re: Year end tally by Russell W Niles 10) Re: Year End Tally by "K. Hagerup" 11) Re: kit tally by smperry@mindspring.com 12) Re: Year End Tally by "DAVID BURKE" 13) Re: Year End Tally by Dennis Ugulano 14) Re: Junkers J-9 by Joey Valenciano 15) alps decal team? by Joey Valenciano 16) Re: Some ebay OT models for sale by Joey Valenciano 17) Re: Year End Tally by bucky@ptdprolog.net 18) Re: Year End Tally by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: Meeting by Ernest Thomas 20) Etrich Taube by "Ray Boorman" 21) Re: Off topic quote by Mike Fletcher 22) RE: Year End Tally by "John Glaser" 23) corrugations WAS Some ebay OT models for sale by "Peter Leonard" 24) starting to build by Munson Hinman 25) Re: Kit tally by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 26) Re: Junkers J-9 by "David C. Fletcher" 27) Happy Holidays by "DAVID BURKE" 28) FLOH was Re: kit tally by Pedro e Francisca 29) new - Blue Max and plywood question by Witold Kozakiewicz 30) Re: new - Blue Max and plywood question by "Peter Leonard" 31) Re: new - Blue Max and plywood question by smperry@mindspring.com 32) Re: starting to build by smperry@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:19:21 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Eduards 1/72 Alb DV + Winter Sale Message-ID: <0.470a87d3.258c02d9@aol.com> Hi Gang Eduards 1/72 Albatros DVa , hit the USA today. I'll have some on Tuesday. Also got a deal on some of the 1/48 Eduards WWI kit on a Winter Sale Visit my web site for info. www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:58:23 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Happy birthday to . . .. Message-ID: <385A87CE.195D016B@mail.telepac.pt> Bob Pearson wrote: > Will that old 'bastard' Brad Gossen please step forward and take a bow ... > > PS blame Dave > > Bob Brad, You'll be my excuse for another good glass of red. All the best and Cheers. May you live long and prosper and the plastic gods be kind on you. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:17:44 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: WW1 modeling list Subject: re: kit tally Message-ID: <385A8C57.A4EC013B@mail.telepac.pt> OT: Sopwith Scnheider Sopwith Salamander Sopwith Snipe Sopwith Camel Martynside S-1 MkIV Male MkIV Female ot Fokker FVII Southern Cross Airfix 1/32 Volkswagen Beetle (so what????) All in all it's been a pretty productive year for my standards and I may even finish the Floh before the end of the year. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:15:08 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: WW1 modeling list Subject: New listees Message-ID: <385AB5EB.D81CDC07@mail.telepac.pt> Munson, Paul and Dave Welcome to the best place in cyberia. Pedro in Portugal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:45:28 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: kit tally Message-ID: <0.a52019e2.258c1708@aol.com> In a message dated 99-12-17 17:32:28 EST, you write: << I may even finish the Floh before the end of the year. >> Can anyone tell me why Eduard made this thing???? Candice and I were talking about it and neither of us could figure out how/why it made it into plastic. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:56:32 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: kit tally Message-ID: <199912172258.OAA27056@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:49:49 -0500 (EST), Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me why Eduard made this thing???? Candice and I were talking > about it and neither of us could figure out how/why it made it into plastic. Probably the same reason why there are/were four or five 1/72nd kits of the type - it's a curiousity. You may as well ask why are companies wasting all their time and plastic on Luftwaffe '46 crap. At least this one flew! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:11:23 -0600 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kit tally Message-ID: <385AC31B.3CDC9E7D@ionet.net> > shame as the reason for not posting your one completed kit to the List. OK you shamed me into reporting it. > DICTA IRA RULZ! THANK GOD! OK here goes the % is how finished I consider them OT all 1/48 99% Very Famous Sopwith Camel 45% Very difficult red A-H Alb. D-III 55% Very common SPAD XIII ot various scales 100% Red Arrows big BAe thingy 100% Red Arrows little Folland thingy 50% old time Monogram rocket thingy 75% old time Revell rocket thingy 100% Monogram P-47 Dingy 100% Monogram P-47 Nthingy 60% Heller TWA L1049 (Do you know why they took the Connie out of service? Three pieces of tail was too much for any man to handle! :-) 70% famous sci fi rock throwing monster and neighborly lost family. OT not plastic 105% (it's been fixed some) Indoor electric R/C sort-a-scale Fokker Dr-I ot not plastic 100% very successful 13' (foot) indoor R/C advertising blimp 100% no longer with us EXTRA 300 R/C aerobatic plane ( victim of dumb thumb in a flat spin) 2 X 100% folded paper cottages for the N scale train Happy holidays to all of you! Thank you for some wonderful smiles and laughs, and fantastic eye candy, and Dicta Ira! Tom Solinski ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:17:30 -0600 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off topic quote Message-ID: <385AC48A.53A25E8C@ionet.net> > No doubt thius is true. All the doom predictors say midnight is the > witching hour. My question to each of them is " Which one? At last count > there are Twenty-four." Even though my boss (SWMREALLYBO) in DC says we're Y2K compliant, we're firing up all of our airplanes at 00:00Z the only witching hour that counts (18:00 Local) to see what all of our flight management systems are going to do. Your humble FAA Aviation Safety Inspector Tom (I wish the rest to be anonymous) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:47:52 -0800 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year end tally Message-ID: <19991217.145009.-285801.0.r_niles1@juno.com> I thought that I was going to have to join the ranks of the "none this year" group, but just turned around to look in the display case, and there was: Glencoe Pfalz DIII. I forgot that I had done a shake the box, just for the halibut. On the other hand, I started and have about half done, the Eduard Albatros CIII, and the Monogram DVII is ready for paint and decals. Russ Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:42:38 -0600 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <385ACA6E.3A60@prodigy.net> All 1/72 OT Sopwith Camel - Brown Fokker Dr.1 - Greim Fokker Dr.1 - Jacobs Fokker Dr.1 - MVR Fokker Dr.1 - Jasta Boelke Fokker D.VII - The Fat One Fokker D.VII - Veltjens Fokker D.VII - Ziegsar Albatros D.III (OEF) (x2) Albatros D.V - Veltjens Albatros D.V - v. Hippel Albatros D.III - The Fat One Albatros D.III - Polish AF Hannover Roland C.II Nie.11 - Italian AF ot A-1H HH-53 Typhoon IB (x2) Il-2M (x4) Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:48:52 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: kit tally Message-ID: <004701bf48e9$46df91a0$730356d1@default> > > << I may > even finish the Floh before the end of the year. >> > > Can anyone tell me why Eduard made this thing???? Candice and I were talking > about it and neither of us could figure out how/why it made it into plastic. > > Tom Cleaver Been wondering that myself. I was looking at a list of data files and there was one on it. Wonder if the book begat the model or the other way round? sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:10:22 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <005801bf48ec$c01ef800$1f95aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hmmm, Lessee: All that has been posted in the Gallery, with possible exception of the Albatros DIII. The SSW was a long-running project that finally got done. Well hell, let me list it in format: (All in the manly scale, of course) 1 Koster SSW D.IV 1 Eduard Albatros D.III 1 " Albatros D.V 1 " Pfalz "D.IIIa" (pics to be posted) 1 DML Fokker D.VIII " 3 " Fokker Dr.1 1 " Fokker D.VII Started: Lots of stuff. Jeez, it never looked like that much..... DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:32:23 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <199912172032_MC2-9189-BE7E@compuserve.com> Here is my total for the year. Going through the thread this evening, I see that I am in good company. There are a few very prolific builders out there. Any way, here goes. Being a record keeper, my list reflects that. All in 1/72 of course. 1/1999 Flashback Voisin III 1/1999 Toko HB-29 2/1999 Libra Bristol Scout C 2/1999 Aero 72 Bristol Scout D 5/1999 Roseplane Farman F-40bis 7/1999 Toko Sopwith Strutter single seat 8/1999 Toko HB D.1 8/1999 Revell/Rosep Fokker D.VII (alb) 8/1999 Roseplane Oeffag C.II 9/1999 Pegasus Etrich Taube 9/1999 Revell DH-2 10/1999 Pegasus AW FK8 10/1999 Aeroclub Martinsyde S.1 10/1999 Toko Nieuport 16c 11/1999 Pegasus Albatros W.4 12/1999 Pegasus Albatros D.Va 12/1999 ****** under construction (# 100) Plus four Albatri for a customer. Not a bad year. 16 for myself, 17 a possibility. 4 for a customer. Pegasus and Toko lead the pack with four each. Four were vacs. My hardest was the Voisin, my favorite was the Taube. The easiest was the Nieuport 16c How was I corrupted by this group over the year? I learned how to use real wood, I have a web page and scanner and I'm looking at a digital camera. For the newcomers to the group, welcome but take it from someone who has been here only a year, you will never be the same. Trust me, I know. Also, thanks to everyone over the past year for the encouragement and help. I doubt that I can duplicate 1999 but it sure was fun. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/12/99 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 09:42:54 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Junkers J-9 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991218094254.00954750@philonline.com> I have two in the hobby closet. :^p :^p :^p :^p :^p One is the Blue Max, t'other is by Fun Model (resin) both 1/48. Blue Max - AMSees would want to pay attention the how the corrugations join up at the leading edge and the fuzzy representations of corrugations on each fuselage half's underside. Airfix overcame this in the 1/72 Ju52 by moulding the underside in 1 piece. Fun Model - There are a few bubbles in the resin, difficult to deal with because of the corrugations. The fuselage is a bit short. >> I am looking for a Plastic Model of the Junkers J-9 single seat WW1 >> fighter Does any one know of a source for this model? > >As has been bantered around yesterday and today, Blue Max made >one which is long out of production in 1/48th. In 1/72nd I know >of Airframe for a vac, and Pegasus for injected. Both also out >of production. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 09:48:09 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: alps decal team? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991218094809.0094f680@philonline.com> Hi all, Since I'm sending out some email now, might as well include a posting of something I've been thinking about for some time. Would anyone with an Alps printer want to team up with me and offer a custom decals service to the list? I'd be willing to do up artwork for the decals. Errrrr, this is a good idea, yes? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 09:33:11 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some ebay OT models for sale Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991218093311.0094f680@philonline.com> Want to know...... how would one do the corrugations for a scratchbuild/mould master? >I'd also like a Junkers D1 pleaassseeeee. >I nearly bid on the one on ebay, but the prices were getting way up there and >from what I remember someone posted that the BlueMax D1 was a lot of work. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:14:19 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <385AEDFA.E062A5EC@ptdprolog.net> Chris Cato wrote: > Eduard Hanriot HD-1 - black tail from Italian 78th (in pieces, ugh...) Same one I'm working on now. Had to re do the black paint since the first time around it bled under the masking tape. So, roundels on the top wings????? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:30:40 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Year End Tally Message-ID: <385AFFDF.F62E95C3@bellsouth.net> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > With the proviso that a substantial part of my model building is "business," > here are my OT completions" - all in the manly scale, of course. (sniparooski) Gee Tom, your arms must be tired. ;p Ok, here's my short list; Edwierd Alb.D-III " " N.17 Blue Max N.28(if I can get to the music store for guitar strngs this weekend). a little pile of bittners that don't really count. And a ot Yak that needs a prop and canopy frame painted. Also repaired a couple from the crash of '98. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:32:41 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Meeting Message-ID: <385B0058.7478788E@bellsouth.net> John Cyganowski wrote: > I have a meeting with Bill Koster tomorrow. Anybody have any questions? > Please reply off line. Is it too late for this? If not, ask him how to get paint off a frog. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:17:50 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Etrich Taube Message-ID: <000701bf490e$dc847020$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> Whilst sitting and fondling the bit and peices for the Flashback Taube (The best part of modeling seeing the made up perfect model in your minds eye). I started to compare it to pictures in Austro Hungarian Army Aircraft of wwi. Now I realise that just about every compant built Taubes and there must hve been lots of differences, but all the pictures I looked at had a very different fuselage. Its much more triangular and flimsier looking, with a flat turtle deck behind the cockpits. The fuselage is much slimmer and gradually curves up to the front. So what gives. The ones in the book are from 1912-1915 so they cover the same period. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:58:25 -0500 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off topic quote Message-ID: <385B1471.F0B5D10D@home.com> the war measures act goes into effect for Canada for the period immediatly following the rollover so there shouldn't be too much looting north of the border... too bring this sortof back to topic, today is the 96th aniversary of the first manned, powered, heavier than air, sustained (90ft sustained????) flight made by the wright brothers :-) (and I have completed no kits this year - but I started more than I did last year) Matt Bittner wrote: > > Just saw this quote I wanted to share: > > ``I think on Jan. 1, 2000, there will be a lot of pissed-off > survivalists.'' - cyberpunk literary pioneer WILLIAM GIBSON, on > the people who are stockpiling food, water, power generators and > other supplies in fear of worldwide chaos at midnight on Dec. 31 > -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:58:13 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Year End Tally Message-ID: <000601bf491c$e0824950$8d00000a@johnghome> OK. For me none. Nada, nothing, zip. 108,000 Continental Airlines OnePass miles but no kits. One of the reasons I started a new job on 11-15. - JG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 06:21:15 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: corrugations WAS Some ebay OT models for sale Message-ID: <19991218062115.11237.qmail@hotmail.com> Joey, I found a guy at the nationals a couple of years ago who had mastered the Welsh Models 1/144 super munchkin Ju52 and tortured him with alchohol until he gave up the secret. He had with him and was able to demonstrate what he called a "Coventry tool". The tool resembles a broad bladed chisel with a serrated cutting edge and he explained that he had made several in different pitches to suit various scales. He was only able to demonstrate it on a flat piece of thick plastic card but he made it look very simple (as these guys always do) Once one row of corrugations are cut the tool is moved across the work not quite it's full width so that a couple of teeth at one end of it slot into place and act as a guide. I somehow dont think that making a J9-DI would be quite so straight forward as that. The fuselage would need som fairly complicated jigging I reckon, and you'd have to look at something like plexiglass or resin for your medeum. On the other hand I beleive the BM kit may have it's origins in a Czech resin, so someone out there has been and gone and done it. Lubos......? Peter Leonard http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ----Original Message Follows---- From: Joey Valenciano Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Some ebay OT models for sale Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:49:16 -0500 (EST) Want to know...... how would one do the corrugations for a scratchbuild/mould master? >I'd also like a Junkers D1 pleaassseeeee. >I nearly bid on the one on ebay, but the prices were getting way up there and >from what I remember someone posted that the BlueMax D1 was a lot of work. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:20:52 -0800 From: Munson Hinman To: Aces Cc: topbari@pacbell.net Subject: starting to build Message-ID: <385B27C4.1543@pacbell.net> I've decided on 1/48 plastic and my first model will probably be a Fok D-VII (to minimize rigging, which I'll practice later). A few questions: What's the difference between vacuum-formed and injection-molded, and which gives the best detail? What tools should I have (I own a Dreml kit and an X-acto knife!). Does cement come with the kit? If not, where do I learn about that? Where's a good source for US customers, and I'd like to order by e-mail. Have looked at a lot of web pages and links you folks have put up, and I'm delighted with the quality of what I see. Back in '33 there was a whiz model builder in my neighborhood named Coleman Harris, and he gave me my inspiration for detail. So, even though I built a lot of balsa/paper stuff, I built them for display. My first flyable Nieuport 17, which took three weeks to build, launched like gangbusters and promptly hit a telephone pole across the street. Back in the '30s, good models were Comet and Guillow; top-of-the-line stuff was Cleveland. -- CHORD-ially, Munson Hinman (topbari@pacbell.net) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 17:26:39 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Re: Kit tally Message-ID: <385B291F.B2E9A6A9@tac.com.au> Nuts! Here was I congratulating myself only the other day for completing two this year! (it's not that I'm slow it's just that I can't call it finished until I'm completely happy with it ;-)) this couldn't be the onset of A.M.S could it??? Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:32:51 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Junkers J-9 Message-ID: <385B2A93.A21C0B04@mars.ark.com> David Garrison wrote: > > I am looking for a Plastic Model of the Junkers J-9 single seat WW1 > fighter Does any one know of a source for this model? > > David Garrison I have the Fun Model kit (what a terrible name for a company...) which I may be convinced to part with at slightly less than EBay prices. Any estimates on what it may be worth from the connoisseurs out there? Make me an offer off-list anyway, and I'll think about it... Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:02:23 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Happy Holidays Message-ID: <001001bf4925$d79be900$9480aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Y'all, I'm leaving tomorrow to go on a family jaunt to Santa Fe, NW and Taos tomorrow. And thence into the Alabama backwoods for New Year's. Allow me to wish each and all the best of Holiday Cheer! And I want you all to know that regardless of exchange, regardless of bias, or personality conflict - as well as because I have learned so much from this group - that I feel really grateful to all of you (yeah, I had one or two tonight, but I seriously mean it.). Talk to you later.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 08:23:19 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: FLOH was Re: kit tally Message-ID: <385B4476.7FAFA68@mail.telepac.pt> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-12-17 17:32:28 EST, you write: > > << I may > even finish the Floh before the end of the year. >> > > Can anyone tell me why Eduard made this thing???? Candice and I were talking > about it and neither of us could figure out how/why it made it into plastic. > > Tom Cleaver Tom, I wish more oddities like the floh would make it into plastic. That really is the sort of model I like doing. A friend of mine sent me a scan of a picture of an antoinette monobloc a couple of days ago and this would really be another candidate not because it was odd but because it was full of style and grace. BTW does anybody know where the landing wires attach? on the upper wing or on the fuselage itself? Shane you did one, care to answer? TIA Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:39:33 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: WWI Subject: new - Blue Max and plywood question Message-ID: <385B7275.7A91E294@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi I'm new on this list. My name is Witold and I live in Lodz in Poland. I am 27 and I've been building kits for about 15 years with different success. I build fighters in 1/48 from WWI to Korean War (piston engine). I have some Eduard, Smer (trying to replace with better models), Monogram (Camel and D.VII) and DML (Fokker Dr.I). Total - 17 planes built and about next 8 in box from this fascinating period of aviation history. I whatched pictures on your website and I'd like to built planes like that - I'm really impressed. I've subscibed this list for about week and durring this time I found some interesting things. Could you tell me something more about Blue Max. I don't know this manufacturer at all, but pictures on their website (which I found by this list) looks ok. Especially I'm interested in your opinion about Spad S.VII, Pfalz D.XII, Nieuport 28 and Airco DH.2 (they are low stock). Anoter question is how to make so realistic plywood. Is it some kind of decals or there is some special technic of painting? I want to start my Werner Voss' Albatros D.III - Eduard Profipack. Sorry about my english :-). Please correct my mistakes Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:17:12 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new - Blue Max and plywood question Message-ID: <19991218121712.51226.qmail@hotmail.com> Witold writes.. "Sorry about my english :-). Please correct my mistakes " As good as most on this list Witold, me included:) No problem in that department. Welcome. Pegasus/Blue Max are one of the leading manufacturers of limited run WWI injection molded kits. Being limited run thier kits are not so straightforward to build as more mainstream ones from DML or Eduard for example. The SPAD VII is one of the earliest Blue Max efforts and IMO is not up to the standard of the others you mention , which are quite recent and much improved, but if you can make a decent model from a Smer kit you shouldn't have any problem with Blue Max. I haven't seen the Pegasus plywood decals (I don't think they are actualy available yet) but I imagine they will be similar to the Propagteam and Aero Master sheets already available. Others on the list have achieved splendid results with them as I am sure you have seen on the web pages. Welcome again Peter L http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com http://www.storks.cwc.net PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 07:27:20 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: new - Blue Max and plywood question Message-ID: <002301bf4953$3bb516a0$ca0156d1@default> > Hi Hi yourself Witold and welcome to the List. > I've subscibed this list for about week and durring this time I found > some interesting things. Could you tell me something more about Blue > Max. I don't know this manufacturer at all, but pictures on their > website (which I found by this list) looks ok. Especially I'm interested > in your opinion about Spad S.VII, Pfalz D.XII, Nieuport 28 and Airco > DH.2 (they are low stock). Blue Max makes 1:48 models and Pegasus makes 1:72. They are both run by a fellow in England named Chris Gannon. These kits are limited run injection molded plastic with white metal detail parts. Some folks have gotten B-M kits with molding imperfections in the wings, but Mr. Gannmon seems wiling to replace them. The parts have thick gates and require careful cleanup and preparation, but they build into very nice kits. They are on the pricey side, so many people by direct and save the healthy mark up added by local shops who carry them. > Anoter question is how to make so realistic plywood. Is it some kind of > decals or there is some special technic of painting? I want to start my > Werner Voss' Albatros D.III - Eduard Profipack. There are many ways to simulate plywood. There are commercially produced decals. homemade decals and direct painting and penciling. Look on the List web page http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/index.html under Ernest Thomas for an example of fine commercial ply decals on his Voss D.III. Look under Shane Weier for what I bekieve is a painted finish with watercolor pencil grain. and you can look on my site at: http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/gallery.htm to see an example of handpainted clear decal material. I just sprayed Testors Wood onto clear decal material and when that dried well, I drybrushed the grain with Testors Rust. HTH Regards sp > Sorry about my english :-). Please correct my mistakes > > > Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 07:49:25 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: starting to build Message-ID: <002d01bf4956$51272c00$ca0156d1@default> > I've decided on 1/48 plastic and my first model will probably be a Fok > D-VII (to minimize rigging, which I'll practice later). Hi Munson: Excellent choice > > A few questions: What's the difference between vacuum-formed and > injection-molded, and which gives the best detail? Vac kits are made from sheets of white styrene 20 to 40 thou thick. The plastic is heated and pulled over or into a mold by vaccuum pressure. The detail can range from excellent to non existant. Sierra Scale and Rosemont are some of the very best. Injection molded kits are made by forcing liquid styrene into steel or epoxy molds under high pressure. These are your typical plastic models. Recent advances in the technology are producing exceptional detail and very fine pieces. What tools should I > have (I own a Dreml kit and an X-acto knife!). Good start. Some quality tweezers, a pin vise and assorted fine drill bits down to #80, a pair of sprue nippers, some assorted fine files and fine grades of wet/dry sandpaper. about round out the basics. Does cement come with > the kit? If not, where do I learn about that? No cement in kits as a general rule. CA glue (superglue) is my favorite. Many folks use white glue to stick on details and epoxy to glue on the secure the critical joins where strength is required. Where's a good source > for US customers, and I'd like to order by e-mail. Rosemont hobbies carries a full line of model building supplies. It is run by List member Barry Stettler http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/ An e-mail or phone call during business hours will get you fast, friendly service. > Back in the '30s, good models were Comet and Guillow; top-of-the-line > stuff was Cleveland. Gillows is still around and I still see a few Comets from time to time. I haven't seen a Cleveland kit in years, but they were definitely the cadalliac of stick & tissue kits. Recently stick & tissue has had a recent technology breakthrough with laser cut parts. These are incredible and a joy to build. HTH sp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2037 **********************