WWI Digest 2019 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! by "Leonard Endy" 2) RE: What's the deal with the site? by Shane Weier 3) Re: FMP books by Zulis@aol.com 4) Re: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! by "Peter Leonard" 5) Re: Vickers Pop Quiz by "Brad Gossen" 6) Re: Vickers Pop Quiz by "Brad Gossen" 7) "Unusual" German Cross on eBay by Fernando Lamas 8) Re: ot Panhandle by Tom Solinski 9) RE: an interesting question (perhaps) by Shane Weier 10) Re: ot Panhandle by Ernest Thomas 11) Weird Conversion projects for the 504 by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 12) Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay by "Peter Leonard" 13) Re: Weird Conversion projects for the 504 by "Brad Gossen" 14) RE: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! by Shane Weier 15) Re: an interesting question (perhaps) by "Jim Landon" 16) Re: Vickers Pop Quiz by "Ray Boorman" 17) Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay by "Brad Gossen" 18) Re: an interesting question (perhaps) by smperry@mindspring.com 19) Re: Alberto's and Ernest's oeuvres by "Jim Landon" 20) Re: What's the deal with the site? by "Jim Landon" 21) Re: And now I'm back. by "Jim Landon" 22) Re: Building in afterlife by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: an interesting question (perhaps) by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay by "cameron rile" 25) Re: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! by "Ray Boorman" 26) Re: ot Panhandle by "Jim Landon" 27) Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay by Zulis@aol.com 28) Re: an interesting question (perhaps) by "Jim Landon" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:12:05 -0500 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:42:47 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >I don't beleive it!!! I got an Aurora DH4 off Ebay!!! Pinch me someone > A sure sign Glencoe will release it.... Len ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:15:51 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: What's the deal with the site? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1AE0@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Al, > Thenks for caring......about the list at least :-) That's okay mate. If you intend to peg out - leave the keys to the list under the mat. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:23:55 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FMP books Message-ID: <0.a9bedb21.2581b02b@aol.com> I'm probably one of the main complainers about FMP's service, so I think I should maybe be the one to point out what is implied, but not said. It is not without reason that we are ordering their books. They produce great books - it really feels rotten to be badmouthing an outfit that turns out such good books for our little niche market. I just wish they could keep the same excellent production people, and fire whoever is involved in the sales / customer service fiasco. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:28:57 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! Message-ID: <19991210012857.72789.qmail@hotmail.com> Me...>"I don't beleive it!!! I got an Aurora DH4 off Ebay!!! Pinch me someone"> Len...."A sure sign Glencoe will release it...." I'd place a bet on it. I just hope you're all grateful for my sacrifice :) Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:24:52 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Vickers Pop Quiz Message-ID: <001f01bf42b0$8ae36960$7a8c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Dave I just checked Machine Guns Of World War One: Live Firing Classic Weapons In Colour Photographs by Robert Bruce. While the text says nothing about a coating, the pictures (closeups) clearly show the tripod mounted example as being flat black in colour. Other examples I've seen recently are also flat black as opposed to the black metal appearance of the Maxim 08 and the Hotchkiss. There is much discussion in the text about the problem of corrosion in the trenches especially when exposed to chlorine gas. This would help explain a protective coat. Brad PS Could you possibly send me your website address again? I lost it in the great crash of November, before I had a chance to have a look. Did YIJ make it home? -----Original Message----- From: David Vosburgh To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: Vickers Pop Quiz >I remember reading somewhere (Wylam??) that the Vickers gun was treated with a matte black >chemical finish on all the exterior surfaces. > >True or False? > >IMWTK, > >DV > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:56:05 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Vickers Pop Quiz Message-ID: <003c01bf42b1$b97413a0$7a8c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Dave Should'a checked Wylam first I guess. He says " Entire gun with exception of steel moving parts (charging unit) was dull (electrolytic) non-rust black". Is this what you were thinking of ? Brad -----Original Message----- From: David Vosburgh To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: Vickers Pop Quiz >I remember reading somewhere (Wylam??) that the Vickers gun was treated with a matte black >chemical finish on all the exterior surfaces. > >True or False? > >IMWTK, > >DV > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:57:09 -0800 From: Fernando Lamas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991209175709.0085c570@olympus.net> Has anyone ever seen a genuine German iron cross insignia with both a white and a black border? The only example I can recall was in the case of the "Wolfchen". http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=211881700 Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:01:09 -0600 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ot Panhandle Message-ID: <38505EE5.A53B6811@ionet.net> > Please explain further - I seem to be losing something in the syntax. Earlier Clever wrote: *However,* the case can be made that the Swordfish is the "Saving Private Ryan" of biplanes. I mean, people who know nothing about biplanes know about the Swordfish - hell, there is a surprisingly large number of people who don't know more about airplanes than "its an F-18 daddy, and isn't that a Mustang?" (as they point at a Spitfire) know about the Swordfish. With its record, it really is an "immortal." > I await the screaming and yelling. :-) > Tom Cleaver > >And from another message today "people know the stringbag"????? These are > >the same people you are saying a Spitfire is a Mustang called an F-18? Get > >real, someone in management in Tamyia was getting the contract for a > >Japanese remake of Sink the Bismarck. that is what the above was referring too. > >Fokkers, Fokkers hell no dem fokkers was Messerschmitt!!! And this is the punch line from a story about a Dutch fighter pilot at the beginning of the second part of WW-I, who being interviewed on television had explained that he was surrounded by three Fokkers. The announcer in turn explained to the audience that a Fokker was a type of German aircraft. To which the Dutchman replied: Fokkers, Fokkers hell no dem fokkers was Messerschmitts!!! YA? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:29:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: an interesting question (perhaps) Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1AE1@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dave, > >Not that I should care, since I haven't built a kit from > either in at least 10 years > > > Which is probably why your stuff is so good. > Don't get me wrong, they both make great kits, and I've *bought* them, just not *built* any. Something about the subjects. The skill of the toolmakes tempts me but I can't work up the enthusiasm to build them once bought. I usually keep them until the new styrene smell has worn off and no longer gives an adequate high - then sell them at below cost to make space on the shelf :-( Shane (ummm, since I joined the list 5 years back I've built *one* ot aircraft model - Airfix. I shudder to think how many I've bought and sold though) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:14:31 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ot Panhandle Message-ID: <38506206.B5F37C7A@bellsouth.net> Tom Solinski wrote: > To which > the Dutchman replied: Fokkers, Fokkers hell no dem fokkers was > Messerschmitts!!! YA? Has anyone on this list NOT heard this joke? I first heard it when I was in second grade. And I still here it just about every time I tell someone I'm a WWI modeler. Would someone PLEASE come up with a new WWI flyer joke? E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:28:41 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Weird Conversion projects for the 504 Message-ID: <38506559.2476B154@tac.com.au> Dave Vosburgh wrote >> Would that hop have been in their Dyak-engined Avro 504?? Now *there's* a conversion project... << And a day or so later I found the pictures and article I knew I had *somewhere* of an even madder conversion for a 504. The Avro 547 - the third plane to enter Qantas service. four passenger fuselage, 160 hp Beardmore engine added to a 504 with an extra wing. Hours of modelling enjoyment ;-) Lorna who used to think that once something was put away in a bookshelf it would stay there until she needed it next but then she married another modeller :-(( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 02:29:14 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay Message-ID: <19991210022914.87262.qmail@hotmail.com> It doesn't conform to any standard I am familiar with. It's not just the outline, as you say there is one known example so there may be more, but the proportions don't look right and it's not quite symetrical. LookS a lot like the crosses painted, without the benefit of the kind of research we have available now, on movie ships in the twenties and thirties. It could be genuine, but I wouldn't want to bid for it based on these photographs. Peter Leonard ----Original Message Follows---- From: Fernando Lamas Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:09:47 -0500 (EST) Has anyone ever seen a genuine German iron cross insignia with both a white and a black border? The only example I can recall was in the case of the "Wolfchen". http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=211881700 Fernando Lamas ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:33:22 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Weird Conversion projects for the 504 Message-ID: <005101bf42b6$ee6a7ae0$7a8c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> How 'bout the Cierva C.6A, a 504N with four wings, albeit skinny rotating ones. Brad -----Original Message----- From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 9:27 PM Subject: Weird Conversion projects for the 504 >Dave Vosburgh wrote > >>> Would that hop have been in their Dyak-engined Avro 504?? Now *there's* a conversion project... << > >And a day or so later I found the pictures and article I knew I had >*somewhere* of an even madder conversion for a 504. > >The Avro 547 - the third plane to enter Qantas service. four passenger >fuselage, 160 hp Beardmore engine added to a 504 with an extra wing. >Hours of modelling enjoyment ;-) > >Lorna >who used to think that once something was put away in a bookshelf it >would stay there until she needed it next but then she married another >modeller :-(( > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:41:40 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1AE2@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Peter, > Peter...>"I don't beleive it!!! I got an Aurora >DH4 off Ebay!!! Pinch me > >someone"> > > Len...."A sure sign Glencoe will release it...." > > Peter ...>I'd place a bet on it. I just hope you're > >all grateful for my sacrifice :) > So build it as well. Then Eduard will release one Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 19:05:13 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: an interesting question (perhaps) Message-ID: <19991210030513.71928.qmail@hotmail.com> Tom said <> Hey, I just went and looked and sure-nuff, the kit I picked up by chance one day is a "Hooby Craft" "Sopwith F.1 Camel" in 1/32. Kit number HC1685. Is this a good kit? Does it need certain modifications that somebody can tell me about? I was rumaging thru the bargain bin in the hobby shop and found it marked down for $10. A guy I was with said it was a good kit. I figured I'd "practice" on it to make a gradual transition from 1:13 down toward 1/72. Jim (The idiot building a "fire trap" model, as somebody called it the other day ... balsa and tissue. Funny.) >From: Albatrosdv@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: an interesting question (perhaps) >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 02:34:17 -0500 (EST) > >In a message dated 99-12-09 00:50:29 EST, you write: > ><< 'd like this if it was 1/32 or larger. But I'm 90something% finished the >BM kit > with another in the wings, so I wouldn't rush out and buy another one in >48.. >> > >For those who think 1/32 is really the proper WW1 scale, and I have often >thought it when I have seen a well-done Hobbycraft Nieuport or Camel >(there's >one of each, done really well, out at the Planes of Fame museum - don't >know >who did them), I hope the upcoming SPAD next year will sell and sell well, >to >that perhaps Matt's idea about future 1/32 WW1 will happen. > >Tom C ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:09:01 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Vickers Pop Quiz Message-ID: <006a01bf42bb$e8d8c0a0$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> This is probably completely wrong but isnt one of the processes used to coat these guns called chemically blueing??? Nah I bet I'm wrong. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Gossen To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Vickers Pop Quiz > Dave > > Should'a checked Wylam first I guess. He says " Entire gun with > exception of steel moving parts (charging unit) was dull (electrolytic) > non-rust black". Is this what you were thinking of ? > > Brad > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Vosburgh > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:03 PM > Subject: Vickers Pop Quiz > > > >I remember reading somewhere (Wylam??) that the Vickers gun was treated > with a matte black > >chemical finish on all the exterior surfaces. > > > >True or False? > > > >IMWTK, > > > >DV > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:15:44 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay Message-ID: <006401bf42bc$d970dac0$7a8c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> I agree with Peter. I just checked The Sky Their Battlefield. There's no listing for any Lt. George Mills 68 Sqdn having been shot down in early November of 1917. In fact there were no George Mills shot down anywhere in France let alone Amiens in 1917. However a check of Airmen Died In The Great War 1914-1918, shows: MILLS, 2Lt George Carlton, Sch of SF, pilot. Native of Winnipeg, Manit, age 26. Kwf 4.11.17. Buried at Gosport, Hants. Guess he could have been sent back to blighty. Perhaps they painted crosses in crafts class at the SF School. Anyone have a personnel list for 68 Sqdn? The plot thickens! I once saw a cross like this. A fellow at Oshkosh had bought the remaining stock from a bankrupt blind company and was reproducing WW1 a/c markings to order for you den. rec. room, library, etc... With the right touch of antiqueing, laquer and creasing, they were very convincing. Brad Ever the cynic. With my track record though it's probably authentic. -----Original Message----- From: Fernando Lamas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 9:08 PM Subject: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay > > > Has anyone ever seen a genuine German iron cross insignia with both a >white and a black border? > > The only example I can recall was in the case of the "Wolfchen". > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=211881700 > > Fernando Lamas > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:21:44 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: an interesting question (perhaps) Message-ID: <001001bf42bd$b0449500$c80156d1@default> > Jim > (The idiot building a "fire trap" model, as somebody called it the other day > .. balsa and tissue. Funny.) Not at all. As a kid I was way more impatient than I am now. I took a perfectly covered stick & tissue wing, (Sig Monocpupe) and put it in the oven to dry the dampened tissue and skrink it tight. I turned it on to Broil and went outside to play for a while....... sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 19:23:47 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alberto's and Ernest's oeuvres Message-ID: <19991210032347.56999.qmail@hotmail.com> I finally remembered to go look at the new pics. I'll second what Diego said, both guys models are fabulous. I just have a few questions: 1. Ern, that's a 1/6 scale radio-controlled job that you retouched to try to make us believe it's 1/72, right? You can't fool me. 2. Ern, what's that thing you're standing next to. I suppose you are going to say you built it too. 3. Alberto, you didn't actually glue the fuselage halves together did you ... after putting such incredible detail inside? If so, can any of it be seen through the cockpit opening? Please tell me it's two separate kits, the one with the interior detail left open, and the one closed up has less interior detail. 4. Alberto, the picture of the real WWI plane taking off, I don't think he's going to clear those trees! Did the pilot survive? >From: "dfernet0" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Alberto's and Ernest's oeuvres >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 05:14:59 -0500 (EST) > >Alberto: >Incredible. I love to see such a detail in 1/72 scale. These pictures >certainly closed the mouths of that 1/48ers around. And the pictures with >the background make the model look as ready to fly! > >Ernest: >Whoa! my favourite airplane done by one of my favourite modellers! You >excelled one more time. Now go for that Nieuport 28!. BTW I saw yesterday >Asterix at the cinema. Don't worth seeing it, the magic from the comic >books >is absent. > >Regards >D. >34ºC expected to this afternoon. Where did I left my tropical helmet? > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 19:38:43 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What's the deal with the site? Message-ID: <19991210033843.21279.qmail@hotmail.com> Allan said: <> 1. I'm glad you're following the doctor's orders. 2. If you're in bed all day, who typed that message? Jim Waiting for epoxy to harden. I think I inhaled too many fumes. >From: Allan Wright >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: What's the deal with the site? >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:54:06 -0500 (EST) > > > > On a different note, Dr. appointment in an hour, things have > > > taken 2 big > > > steps back and I plan on being back at home for more bed rest > > > for a few > > > days. Play nice while daddy's gone. Again, no need to worry..... > > > > Forget us! Be careful, I started with a "cold" and ended up in the ICU >in > > August just becase I didn't listen to the doc and stay in bed. That >doesn't > > matter to anyone but me - but what would happen to us all without you ! > >Shane, > > Thenks for the kind words, it's now 3:50 pm and I just got >out of bed for the first time today. I'll be going back soon >after some nice hot soup. I've taken the rest of the week off to >recover. > > Thenks for caring......about the list at least :-) > >-Allan > >=============================================================================== >Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ >University of New >Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- >Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: >wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: >http://pease1.sr.unh.edu >=============================================================================== ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 19:43:02 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: And now I'm back. Message-ID: <19991210034302.6005.qmail@hotmail.com> James said:<> Oh, oh. I don't like the sound of that, whatever the h___ it means. Glad you survived, but now do you have to try again? The other James >From: Suvoroff@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: And now I'm back. >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:36:20 -0500 (EST) > >Well, my ablation failed but the operation was a success since I survived >it >without complications. The greatest of thanks to all who gave me their >best >wishes. > >And Ernest the Ghoul will now have to get his kits somewhere else! > >Yours, >James D. Gray ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:43:58 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Building in afterlife Message-ID: <0.6e3d8395.2581d0fe@aol.com> In a message dated 12/9/99 12:34:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, MSCHULTZ@cityregina.com writes: << The advantage of building in the afterlife would also be getting the proper colours, markings and other details from the real experts,the original pilots and ground crews. I would love to see big scale Albatros models ( of course both Austrian and German versions) Merry Christmas and a Happy prosperous New Year to all Marlon Schultz >> Welcome Marlon!....and depending on where one might run into some of these pilots in the afterlife, they might be too busy fighting off the heat! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:43:58 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: an interesting question (perhaps) Message-ID: <0.d7ca5217.2581d0fe@aol.com> In a message dated 12/9/99 1:44:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, peter_leonard@hotmail.com writes: << Lance..."I tend to hark back to the days when I would try to make the Hawk SPAD into a Bristol Bullet (now THERE'S a conversion)!" Next time try starting with a SMER Bulldog turned upside down. Oops! Another secret out of the bag :) Peter L >> and a Sopwith Strutter lives inside a Jenny fuselage -and the leftover JN wings have the same rib spacing as a Pfalz D.III, bottom wing in case you've got an old Tom's Modelworks vac hanging around, and are highly unpleased with the kit items, being merely suck-downs over the old Aurora pieces WHICH HAVE THE WRONG NUMBER OF RIBS....calm down Robert, the week end is coming up. Robert K. or RK and sometimes rk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:52:51 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay Message-ID: <8E2B27F96EDA3D11789A00807C9026EF@cameron.prontomail.com> Brad wrote : >I just checked The Sky Their Battlefield. There's no >listing for any Lt. George Mills 68 Sqdn having been shot down in early >November of 1917. I have the AFC's Roll of Honour in a database, A Lieutenant F.C Markham-Mills flew with 2 AFC late in the war, he died of Illness on 18th Dec 1918. There are no other Mills that appear. I wasnt able to find mention of a Mills in any other AFC book I have, but my library is far from extensive on the subject. >Anyone have a personnel list for 68 Sqdn? The plot thickens! This was what the squadron looked like in September/October 1917. A Flight McCloughry,Bartlam,Holden,Howard,James,Ward B Flight Wilson,Pratt,Phillips,Huxley,Taylor,Sands C Flight Griggs,Bell,Morrison,Mathews,Robertson,McKenzie from ebay >The Squadron went on to become Number 2 Squadron Australian Flying Corps. Bah Humbug :) Like Shane mentioned on this list once before, they were always 2 AFC. They only existed as 68 RFC in British records. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:45:36 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! Message-ID: <000c01bf42c1$05220460$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> If you build it and super detail it then well Tamiya will decide its the Private Ryan model of wwi. Oops time to scoot before I get shouted at. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:46 PM Subject: RE: He shoots,,,He scoooooooors!!!! > Peter, > > > > Peter...>"I don't beleive it!!! I got an Aurora > >DH4 off Ebay!!! Pinch me > > >someone"> > > > > Len...."A sure sign Glencoe will release it...." > > > > Peter ...>I'd place a bet on it. I just hope you're > > >all grateful for my sacrifice :) > > > > So build it as well. Then Eduard will release one > > Shane > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 19:54:36 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ot Panhandle Message-ID: <19991210035436.62953.qmail@hotmail.com> <> I hadn't heard it. >From: Ernest Thomas >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: ot Panhandle >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:18:45 -0500 (EST) > >Tom Solinski wrote: > > > To which > > the Dutchman replied: Fokkers, Fokkers hell no dem fokkers was > > Messerschmitts!!! YA? > >Has anyone on this list NOT heard this joke? I first heard it when I was in >second >grade. And I still here it just about every time I tell someone I'm a WWI >modeler. >Would someone PLEASE come up with a new WWI flyer joke? >E. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:59:49 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Unusual" German Cross on eBay Message-ID: <0.15843b14.2581d4b5@aol.com> Well, this gets a little stranger. I had nothing official in my files about George Mills, but I did note one reference in Windsock Vol. 11, No.3, page 2. Someone has a piece of airplane fabric - NOT the same one up for auction on ebay - and with a generally similar inscription. The black and white reproduction in Windsock seems to show three bands of colour, with the numbers "27882" across them. The records may have forgotten George, but his memory seems to have generated a few fabric samples for the LaFleur museum. Has anyone heard of this museum? Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:00:05 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: an interesting question (perhaps) Message-ID: <19991210040005.92467.qmail@hotmail.com> <> You didn't!! I think I did something similar one time to help dry some paint on something. Can't really recall too much about it. The things we did as kids! >From: smperry@mindspring.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: an interesting question (perhaps) >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:26:05 -0500 (EST) > > > Jim > > (The idiot building a "fire trap" model, as somebody called it the other >day > > .. balsa and tissue. Funny.) > > >Not at all. As a kid I was way more impatient than I am now. I took a >perfectly covered stick & tissue wing, (Sig Monocpupe) and put it in the >oven to dry the dampened tissue and skrink it tight. I turned it on to >Broil and went outside to play for a while....... > >sp > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2019 **********************