WWI Digest 2011 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Ernest Thomas 2) RE: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Shane Weier 3) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Zulis@aol.com 4) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by "Bob Pearson" 5) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Ernest Thomas 6) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Ernest Thomas 7) RE: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Shane Weier 8) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by "Jim Landon" 9) Admin Funstions Limited by Allan Wright 10) Re: Admin Funstions Limited by "Bill Bacon" 11) Re: RE: Off Topic Fire Sale! by "Lance Krieg" 12) ETRICH by "Brad Gossen" 13) Re: RE: Off Topic Fire Sale! by "Brad Gossen" 14) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by "Brad Gossen" 15) Re: Admin Funstions Limited by Unicalce Amministrazione =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alm=E8?= 16) IRAS book by "Matthew Bittner" 17) Spad VI by "dfernet0" 18) Re: IRAS book by smperry@mindspring.com 19) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Mike Fletcher 20) Server trouble. by "Tom Werner Hansen" 21) Re: IRAS book by Zulis@aol.com 22) Re: Admin Funstions Limited by Zulis@aol.com 23) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Leonard?= 24) Re: Spad VI by =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Leonard?= 25) Re: Admin Funstions Limited by "DAVID BURKE" 26) RE: Spad VI by "dfernet0" 27) Glencoe DH4 (again) by =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Leonard?= 28) Re: Admin Funstions Limited by "Brad Gossen" 29) Re: ETRICH by "Bob Pearson" 30) Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' by Matthew Zivich 31) Re: ETRICH by "Brad Gossen" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:32:59 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <384B3C7A.2ABA1804@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > Nope, but it will be interesting to see how many hits he gets now that it > has been announced here .. he had 41 hits when I visited . . ... Wonder how > many list members will take a look It was at 44 when I hit it. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:40:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1ABA@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Bob, > ... Wonder how > many list members will take a look Not me. Rotten firewall says no. :-( Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:47:03 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <0.1f66143f.257c99c7@aol.com> In a message dated 99-12-05 23:38:03 EST, you write: << > Nope, but it will be interesting to see how many hits he gets now that it > has been announced here .. he had 41 hits when I visited . . ... Wonder how > many list members will take a look >> currently - 67 Fabulous site - not only good stuff, but he takes photos and provides explanatory sketches, too. Thanks, Bob. Shane - you gotta find some way into there - you would like this one. Dave Z "The first time I walked into a trophy shop, I looked around and thought to myself, 'This guy is GOOD!'" - Fred Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:53:53 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <199912060455.UAA19693@mail.rapidnet.net> there is even a piece of MvR's triplane fabric ---------- >From: Zulis@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' >Date: Sun, Dec 5, 1999, 8:51 PM > > In a message dated 99-12-05 23:38:03 EST, you write: > > << > Nope, but it will be interesting to see how many hits he gets now that it > > has been announced here .. he had 41 hits when I visited . . ... Wonder how > > many list members will take a look > >> > > currently - 67 > > Fabulous site - not only good stuff, but he takes photos and provides > explanatory sketches, too. Thanks, Bob. > > Shane - you gotta find some way into there - you would like this one. > > Dave Z > > > > "The first time I walked into a trophy shop, I looked around and thought to > myself, 'This guy is GOOD!'" > - Fred Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 23:13:23 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <384B45F3.8592221D@bellsouth.net> Zulis@aol.com wrote: > currently - 67 > That must be why I couldn't get past the D-V lg strut and fitting. Everybody get off that site so I can see the rest of it. Go look at girlie pics or something. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 23:21:45 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <384B47E8.AE8DD1F@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > there is even a piece of MvR's triplane fabric > What color is it? E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:22:31 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1ABD@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > there is even a piece of MvR's triplane fabric # 3,125,242 I believe....... Shane (a cynic) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 23:27:50 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <19991206072750.58210.qmail@hotmail.com> <> I'll second that. And thanks Charles too for the ebay site. I'd love to have the book but I never win on ebay. BTW, I'm learning how to run my new computer at home, and I just added some new pages on my website, for those of you who have nothing better to do. They're not linked into the rest of my site yet so you have to go directly to them: http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page64.html http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page65.html http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page66.html http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page67.html Jim >From: Ernest Thomas >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' >Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:12:55 -0500 (EST) > >Bob Pearson wrote: > > > For those wanting to view real life 'fiddly bits' from WW1 aircraft >check > > out > > http://charlesgosse.home.mindspring.com > > > >What a cool site. Thanks for the link. >E. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:40:17 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Admin Funstions Limited Message-ID: <199912061340.IAA27793@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hello All, Just to let you all know that I've been sick lately, Bronchitis/Pneumonia, I guess once you get it you're more succeptable to get it again. I'm young and healthy so there's no real danger, just some Dr. ordered bed rest and good drugs (tm). I'm logging in from home, but my time and abilities to do updates will be hampered the next few days (week?). Play nice while daddy's gone! -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:53:53 -0600 From: "Bill Bacon" To: Subject: Re: Admin Funstions Limited Message-ID: <000801bf3ff9$b8097f60$203532cf@tcac.net> Al. Best wishes for a quick and complete recovery. Been down that road a couple of times and it's no fun. Cheers, Bill B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 7:42 AM Subject: Admin Funstions Limited > Hello All, > > Just to let you all know that I've been sick lately, Bronchitis/Pneumonia, > I guess once you get it you're more succeptable to get it again. I'm young > and healthy so there's no real danger, just some Dr. ordered bed rest and > good drugs (tm). I'm logging in from home, but my time and abilities to do > updates will be hampered the next few days (week?). Play nice while daddy's > gone! > > -Allan > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ > University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > ============================================================================ === > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 08:59:04 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: RE: Off Topic Fire Sale! Message-ID: Shane is: "supping a XXXX over my email. Life is tough" Hey, Shane, the folks in NSW told me that the reason that Queenslanders order XXXX is because they can't spell "beer". It looks like they just can't spell "sipping"! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:11:41 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: ETRICH Message-ID: <002c01bf4005$0c662c60$4b8c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Thanks again for the replies. Steve: I'd love to see scans of this effect on the IWM Be2. I saw it over twenty years ago but don't remember how it looked. It seems to me that it might even have been PC 10 at that time. Maybe I'm thinking of the RE8. Thanks. Shane: I'm glad I got your post too. I'm thinking I might give this a whirl on a 1/72 Revell Eindekker before I tackle the big Taube. Although photo evidence eludes me, I'm sure that somewhere, somehow there was an Eindekker with crosses on the lower wing only. Jim: Of course building any WW1 machine in plastic is blasphemy. But then that's what I like about this list we're mostly heretics. Building a Taube in plastic is particularly blasphemous. It makes me feel, oh, so BAD!!! Oh my GOD... this means that St. Harry must in fact be an agent of the Great Satan, Beelzebub! Oh woe is me we really are all lost! Incidently, I just saw the wing on your Tommy. The stitching is amazing and the shade of PC10 you've managed to acheive is excellent, to my eye at least. I would, therefore, like to nominate you for the League of Those Who Must Have Their Fingers Chopped Off. (especially since you cheated by using authentic construction methods.) ; ) Brad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:22:47 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: RE: Off Topic Fire Sale! Message-ID: <003701bf4006$23086f40$4b8c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Lance A New South Whaler told me that XXXX is what Queenslanders have for supper. I imagine 'supping' is in fact what he meant. -----Original Message----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 10:05 AM Subject: Re: RE: Off Topic Fire Sale! >Shane is: >"supping a XXXX over my email. Life is tough" > >Hey, Shane, the folks in NSW told me that the reason that Queenslanders order XXXX is because they can't spell "beer". It looks like they just can't spell "sipping"! > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:50:55 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <001701bf400a$112d5f20$618c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> It took me three tries to get in but it finally worked. There had been 56 hits at the time. The MvR fabric has what looks like chunks of crusted blood over an intense sky blue backing. I take it this would be from the undersides? Brad -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 8:46 PM Subject: Some real life 'fiddly bits' >> THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > >--MS_Mac_OE_3027260485_1544518_MIME_Part >Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >For those wanting to view real life 'fiddly bits' from WW1 aircraft check >out >http://charlesgosse.home.mindspring.com > >Bob >--MS_Mac_OE_3027260485_1544518_MIME_Part >Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > > >Some real life 'fiddly bits' > > >For those wanting to view real life 'fiddly bits' from WW1 aircraft check o= >ut
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> > > >--MS_Mac_OE_3027260485_1544518_MIME_Part-- > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 17:45:50 -0100 From: Unicalce Amministrazione =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alm=E8?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Admin Funstions Limited Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991206174550.0079ce50@spm.it> Dear Al, very glad you are back: I do hope your recovery is complete and very fast. All the best, Alberto Casirati. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 11:16:52 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: IRAS book Message-ID: <199912061718.JAA01052@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> I decided to take advantage of Squadron's half-off sale on all the FMP titles and picked up the IRAS book. Excellent! There are a lot of great ideas in here. In fact, I just came across a shot of the front of the cockpit of the Grigorovich M.5. Cool! (Hey, Barry, how's that goin'? ;-) I have received the December flyer from Squadron, and the sale continues through December. The book brings about my daily lament: Too Many Models, Too Little Time... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:24:15 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Spad VI Message-ID: <001501bf400e$b8b12480$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi friends There's such a thing like a "SPAD VI" (yes, six) or it was a typo from a book I saw? Matt? TIA D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:41:31 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: IRAS book Message-ID: <002801bf4011$22f88fc0$f50956d1@default> Any mention of Bashko or Smirnoff or any of their aircraft? sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 12:53:20 -0500 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <384BF810.2239234F@home.com> first I heard that it had blue on it though... Bob Pearson wrote: > > there is even a piece of MvR's triplane fabric > -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html Eagles fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:50:02 +0100 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: Server trouble. Message-ID: <199912061805.TAA15329@golf.dax.net> I'm sorry to bother the list with this, but I'm having the unfortunate experience of being continually unsubscribed. (To the extent that I'm finishing every e-mail session by resubscribing, just in case). And you all know what unintentional unsubbing means to an addict. The mail that I quote here was the last one I received before being unsubbed. What was the time of the following mail? It seems to have been at a time when I certainly was disconnected from my ISP. So if I know exactly at what time a mail bounced I may be able to tell my service provider something more general than "an e-mail addressed to me was undelivered some time last night". Anybody else with this problem? Tom W ---------- > From: Ernest Thomas > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' > Date: 06. desember 1999 06:18 > > > > Zulis@aol.com wrote: > > > currently - 67 > > > > That must be why I couldn't get past the D-V lg strut and fitting. > Everybody get off that site so I can see the rest of it. Go look at girlie pics or > something. > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:06:35 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: IRAS book Message-ID: <0.798d4764.257d552b@aol.com> Steve asks: << Any mention of Bashko or Smirnoff or any of their aircraft? >> Yes - quite a lot, actually. They each have their own "chapter" with pics of both the guys and their planes. Also, a biography from birth to death for each. I checked my files and I also have the following for these two: Bashko, I.S. (Latvian) [Jezups - spelled with letter "I" in Russian] Durkota et al The Imperial Russian Air Service pg. 187-196*, 212, 214 Over The Front Vol. 7, No. 1 pg. 30*, 32 Windsock, Vol. 6, No.3, pg. 24 Windsock, Vol.14, No.4, pg. 22-23 Windsock, Vol. 6, No.4, pg. 4, 5, 6, 11* Windsock, Vol. 6, No.5, pg. 10* Smirnoff, Ivan Vasilievich. Durkota et al The Imperial Russian Air Service pg. 68, 70, 80, 81*, 112-121*, 385, 399*, 386, 388, 389, 412*, 415* AERO Magazine # 105, pg. 50 Franks, Guest & Alegi. Above The War Fronts pg. 213-214 Robertson, Bruce (ed) Air Aces of the 1914-1918 War pg. 1498, 153*, 154*, 155-156* Windsock, Vol. 9, No .2, pg. 12* * - askterisk indicates a pic of either the guy or his aeroplane. Regards, Dave Zulis "I have a microwave fireplace. You can lay down in fron ot the fire all night in eight minutes." - Steven Wright ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:08:26 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Admin Funstions Limited Message-ID: <0.15634b63.257d559a@aol.com> Hey Al! Hope you are feeling better - we will endeavour not to convert the list to a quilting and needlepoint list in your absence. :-) Take care, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:11:16 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Leonard?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <19991206181116.10775.qmail@web1305.mail.yahoo.com> What a great find, well done Bob. The "Richthofen" fabric looks a lot like a sample I saw at Hendon way back when. I don't remember the blue being quite so strong, but that could just be my memory or my monitor at fault Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Leonard?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Spad VI Message-ID: <19991206182038.4860.qmail@web1301.mail.yahoo.com> D. asks.."There's such a thing like a "SPAD VI".. ?" Diego, the VI was designed originaly for a failed rotary engine project. Adapting it to take the Hispano 150hp soon gave rise to the SVII hth Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:40:17 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Admin Funstions Limited Message-ID: <003901bf4017$461574e0$2a87aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Allan! Take care of yourself and get well sson! Like this page even needs updating! Fine the way it is, and I hope you feel better soon - I had walking pneumonia last year - what a drag! DB -----Original Message----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 7:39 AM Subject: Admin Funstions Limited >Hello All, > > Just to let you all know that I've been sick lately, Bronchitis/Pneumonia, >I guess once you get it you're more succeptable to get it again. I'm young >and healthy so there's no real danger, just some Dr. ordered bed rest and >good drugs (tm). I'm logging in from home, but my time and abilities to do >updates will be hampered the next few days (week?). Play nice while daddy's >gone! > >-Allan > >=========================================================================== ==== >Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ >University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- >Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu >=========================================================================== ==== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:28:26 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Spad VI Message-ID: <003c01bf4017$b0205e40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mmmmmm... Then it was a typo. the book I saw had a drawing of a Spad VII or the like. Anyway it was a lousy book (about the begginings of the argentinian air force and very expensive) and now I'm glad that I didn't bought it. Thanks! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Spad VI > D. asks.."There's such a thing like a "SPAD VI".. ?" > > Diego, the VI was designed originaly for a failed > rotary engine project. Adapting it to take the Hispano > 150hp soon gave rise to the SVII > > hth > > Peter > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:52:50 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Leonard?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Glencoe DH4 (again) Message-ID: <19991206185250.18192.qmail@web1305.mail.yahoo.com> I note the the VLS web page lists the Glencoe DH4 at a very precise $14:98. Is this kit actualy available in the U.S? I've e-mailed VLS and asked them, but there are people on this list who know a thing or two. cheers Peter L __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:57:05 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Admin Funstions Limited Message-ID: <001e01bf401b$f3369b00$9d8c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Hey Dave! What was it that comes after 'knit one, pearl...' something? I'm also having trouble with the PC 12 thread on the lozenge quilt, it clashes with purple and pink hexes. Get well soon Al. Brad nk (now knitting) balkenkruez pot holders nu curtains for the Walfisch and a pair of Spandau cozy's -----Original Message----- From: Zulis@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Admin Funstions Limited > >Hey Al! > >Hope you are feeling better - we will endeavour not to convert the list to a >quilting and needlepoint list in your absence. :-) > >Take care, > >Dave Z > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 11:18:04 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ETRICH Message-ID: <199912061919.LAA09138@mail.rapidnet.net> Brad, You spelt Santa wrong Bob ---------- >From: "Brad Gossen" this means that St. Harry must in fact be an agent of the Great Satan, Beelzebub! Oh woe is me we really are all lost! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 14:25:19 -0500 From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some real life 'fiddly bits' Message-ID: <384C0D9F.8CE2DC5A@svsu.edu> Seems to make sense it would be blue underneath the red on MvR's ill-fated triplane. I would guess the blue undersides were original and the red painted over. And perhaps painted over a glossy surface at that, making the red less apt to stick well as it appears in this new website. Matt Z. Peter Leonard wrote: > What a great find, well done Bob. The "Richthofen" > fabric looks a lot like a sample I saw at Hendon way > back when. I don't remember the blue being quite so > strong, but that could just be my memory or my monitor > at fault > > Peter > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:49:33 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: ETRICH Message-ID: <001601bf4023$056fa8a0$788c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Bob, Say it ain't so! Not him too?! Brad -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:23 PM Subject: Re: ETRICH >Brad, > >You spelt Santa wrong > >Bob > >---------- >>From: "Brad Gossen" this means that St. Harry must >in fact be an agent of the Great Satan, Beelzebub! Oh woe is me we really >are all lost! > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2011 **********************