WWI Digest 1991 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Modeler Ages - The Results by Dennis Ugulano 2) Re: dihedral by Ernest Thomas 3) Flashback Aviatik by John Cyganowski 4) Pfalz DIII by "Paul" 5) Re: dihedral by "Ray Boorman" 6) Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers by "Ray Boorman" 7) Re: Latest Windsock by "Ray Boorman" 8) Re: dihedral by "Ray Boorman" 9) Re: dihedral by Ernest Thomas 10) Re: PE Tool for Making Struts? by John Huggins 11) Happy Thanksgiving! by Zulis@aol.com 12) Re: How did you reached the list? by "PETER LEONARD" 13) Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers by "PETER LEONARD" 14) Re: dihedral by "PETER LEONARD" 15) Re: PE Tool for Making Struts? by Brent & Tina Theobald 16) Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers by "PETER LEONARD" 17) Re: Happy Thanksgiving! by Albatrosdv@aol.com 18) 1:72 Throttle quadrants by smperry@mindspring.com 19) RE: Encore WWI 75mm Cannon by "dfernet0" 20) Re: Flashback Aviatik by Matt Bittner 21) Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers by Matt Bittner 22) Location of book by Matt Bittner 23) Re: dihedral by Dennis Ugulano 24) Re: Flashback Aviatik by Unicalce Amministrazione =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alm=E8?= 25) Was: Modeling duhs, Now: was bubble a hoax by "Ray Boorman" 26) PE Guns by "Dale Beamish" 27) Re: 1:72 Throttle quadrants by Ernest Thomas 28) holiday greetings... by Ernest Thomas 29) Re: Flashback Aviatik by "Dale Beamish" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:34:35 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Modeler Ages - The Results Message-ID: <199911242035_MC2-8E85-5D9@compuserve.com> >> Ask Dennis if his pilot Harry has a buddy? :-) << Harry flies by himself. Sorry. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/12/99 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:58:39 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: dihedral Message-ID: <383C97CE.8403C16A@bellsouth.net> Dale Beamish wrote: > At last the scientific method! Everything is clearer now Jedi Master. > Sorry, but that's how I do it. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:49:49 -0500 From: John Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Flashback Aviatik Message-ID: <383CB1DD.725@worldnet.att.net> I just picked this one up today. Very nice! What is the story with Artur/Hippo/Flashback? The Czech Republic seems to be crawling with WWI modelers. Good for us though. Regards, Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:59:08 -0500 From: "Paul" To: Subject: Pfalz DIII Message-ID: <000c01bf36f9$9a4f2d20$e127fcd1@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF36CF.88B72F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am building the Eduard Pfalz DIII (nice kit!) and am finishing it in = the colors of the Jasta 12 Pfalz as shown in the Fall 1994 OTF. In the = OTF drawing, it looks like the struts have the same silvergray finish as = the fusilage. This doesn't seem right to me so I checked the windsock = datafile for the Pfalz DIIIa. It shows a mix of painted struts and = unpainted. Does anyone know if there was a standard practice for this = airplane when it left the factory? Did they generally paint the struts = or not? I would think that only the tail, nose and personal markings = were painted once it reached the Jasta, so the struts would be however = the factory finished them. Any thoughts are appreciated. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF36CF.88B72F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am building the Eduard Pfalz DIII = (nice kit!) and=20 am finishing it in the colors of the Jasta 12 Pfalz as shown in the Fall = 1994=20 OTF.  In the OTF drawing, it looks like the struts have the = same=20 silvergray finish as the fusilage.  This doesn't seem right to me = so I=20 checked the windsock datafile for the Pfalz DIIIa.  It shows a mix = of=20 painted struts and unpainted.  Does anyone know if there was a = standard=20 practice for this airplane when it left the factory?  Did they = generally=20 paint the struts or not?  I would think that only the tail, nose = and=20 personal markings were painted once it reached the Jasta, so the struts = would be=20 however the factory finished them.  Any thoughts are=20 appreciated.
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF36CF.88B72F60-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:55:23 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: dihedral Message-ID: <005a01bf36f8$e6f0e700$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> I've used lego for jigs for a few years, the other great thing about this is it usually gets the interest of the owners of the lego. Next thing you know they want to help and not long after that they wnt to start building themselves. I have a question on vacs if the wing is single skinned do you still use structural piano wire pins?.. I m building my first vac and the wings are single skinned. Ray Boorman ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Shannon To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 8:51 AM Subject: RE: dihedral > > I don't have to. My wings find whatever different dihedrals they want > without my intervention. > > Oh, you mean deliberate, set angles....duh. > > I use jigs I make from "Lego" blocks I steal or confiscate from my kids. It > doesn't damage the blocks. I can build a quickly adjustable, flexible jig to > support the wings without bending or sagging. I can even use the small > pieces of Legos to raise the leading edge for the right angle of attack. A > little "arch" of the building blocks can be used to hold the fuselage steady > and upright. > > For cases where the wings are lacking in joint strength (e.g., the lower > wing to fuselage joints on most early Eduard kits) I borrow a tip from the > vacuform builders and use a brass wire, tubing, or piano wire spar, > drilling appropriate holes to replace the locating indents and short pegs. > Even the razor thin lower wing of the Glencoe Albatros kit is amenable to > this, using 0.010-0.015 piano wire. Believe me, once this is in place and > at the correct angle, ain't nothing going to move those wings out of > alignment without breaking them off completely. make sure the holes are > fresh in the plastic, without any paint or smears on them, sand the wire > gently with some 400 grit sandpaper to clean the surface and give a mild > roughness, then a dab of "five minute" epoxy (or regular epoxy, if you > can stand the wait) deep in the holes in the wings is all that's needed to > give it more strength that the rest of the kit. If you are quick you might be > able to use gap-filling CA, but the epoxy will give a better opportunity to > true everything up before it sets. > > .Mark. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:03:23 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers Message-ID: <00b901bf36fa$05099060$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> Ok I'll bite on this, I thought the bubble camo was an april fools? when it appeared in Windsock. Was that article on the up and up or am I being more dense than normal..... Ray Boorman ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers > --- Michael Kendix wrote: > > > Sounds like a definite case for decals. I have no idea what a > > bubble scheme > > is BTW. > > No decals. Wouldn't work. Turns out there was a "bubble camo" > used on Zeppelin C.II's. It was in a past Windsock, but the > colors have yet to be figured out. > > Think of it as bubbles being painted on the aircraft. Seriously. > > > Matt Bittner > On Vacation > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:05:42 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Latest Windsock Message-ID: <00c001bf36fa$57cc6480$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> Grrrr I hate this, I am at least 3 weeks more like 4 from knowing whats in Windsock sheesh...... So now people start giving little hints grrrrr..... Ray Boorman ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 1:14 PM Subject: RE: Latest Windsock > Peter, > > > > Postie just brought me Datafile 78 the Caproni (down Shane) > > SO TELL ME WTF IS IN THE BLOODY THING !!!!!!! > > (allowing for your deafness) > > > and the best > > Windsock for ages. Extra Caproni stuff (why DOES he do > > that?) > > So the mag buyers will be tempted to buy the datafile. So the Datafile > buyers will want a subscription. Dumb he ain't. > > > plus lots of > > Albatros construction shots and heaps on the Phoenix D1. Oh! I nearly > > forgot, a few pages on Nieuports too. > > Easy to overlook. > > Oh sorry .... EASY TO OVERLOOK! > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:19:22 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: dihedral Message-ID: <00e701bf36fc$4040a4a0$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> Of course there is a warning with this method. If you are at all obsessive compulsive or paranoid you will probably get into the following loop. First you get everything set by eye, then you put it down on blocks or paintbrushes etc. Of course you are sure you jogged it so you pick it up again, then yup one wing is a millionth of an inch lower than the other, then you lift that wing, and decide nope was better as it was before. You then lower the other wing. At this point you decide its pulling away a bit. Then you finally get it back to the point of being correct. Then you put it back down. Of course you have to look at it at table height, you lean down and decide no that wont do at all the wing isnt square to the fuselage. Then you try nudging it then of course you ruin the dihedral. You pick it up and the process starts again. Of course this goes on for a while, with the occasional "I'm sure the wings are not square with the tailplane, or is the tailplane off ......" Eventually somone comes in and shoots you to put you out of your misery. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 4:08 PM Subject: Re: dihedral > > > Dale Beamish wrote: > > > What techniques do you gentlemen use for setting the different dihedrals on > > wings? > > > > I put a bit of whatever glue I think will do the job in the spot it needs to > be, and attach the wings with my hands. Looking down the centerline of the > fuselage, using said hands, I move the wings into the proper position using the > tail plane as a reference to square em off of, making sure they look about > right. I then hold the whole assembly steady until the glue begins to set up. > At this point, I put the model down on a clear spot on the bench and stick > whatever is handy and looks to be about the right size(usually a couple paint > brushes) under the tips to help hold the wings in position until the glue > dries. > I know it all sounds a bit complicated, but it really does work and the results > are worth the effort. > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:41:04 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: dihedral Message-ID: <383CBDE0.88D42565@bellsouth.net> Ray Boorman wrote: > Eventually somone comes in and shoots you to put you out of your misery. Hasn't happend yet, but I generally ignore anytthing that's off by less than 1/1000th of an inch. The only time I have trouble with this method is when the tailplanes aren't straight. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:51:52 -0600 From: John Huggins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: PE Tool for Making Struts? Message-ID: >I had an idea today... > >In ship modeling we use a perforated piece of metal to make different >diameter pegs for use as trenails. The piece of sheet metal is designed >to size drill bits and are available at Home Despot and other hardware >stores. We run strips of wood thru the holes shaving off the perimeter >of the strip. This is continued using progressively smaller until we >arrive at the size we want. > >My idea is can someone make a similar device for making struts? All it >needs to be is a photo etched piece with different sizes of holes shaped >like the cross section of a strut. That would make building struts out >of bamboo a breeze. If anyone comes up with one of these, I would be very interested in getting one also. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:10:54 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <0.7b432f6c.256e1ede@aol.com> Greetings, all! Just wanted to wish the many list members south of the border a very Happy Thanksgiving. And please, please, please - be carefu on those highways this weekend. We need you all back among us on Monday. Dave Z Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:16:32 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: How did you reached the list? Message-ID: <19991125061632.26701.qmail@hotmail.com> I was first pointed in the right direction by list member Danielle Silvestri. (btw, I am now familiar with the work if three Italian modellers all of whom aim for an insane level of detail. It must be something in the Cianti)It then took the combined efforts of three other list members to talk me through the process of actualy subscribing, such is the level of my computer skills. Ever so glad I did, such a civilised bunch of reprobates. Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:24:01 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers Message-ID: <19991125062401.29899.qmail@hotmail.com> When I looked at the photographs in Windsock I thought I detected a repeat in the fabric, suggesting a print. It reminded me a lot of some camouflage tent fabric of German origin which I saw in the sixties. I think we may have found the PC10 debate for the next millennium here :) Peter L >From: Matt Bittner >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers >Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:10:24 -0500 (EST) > >--- Michael Kendix wrote: > > > Sounds like a definite case for decals. I have no idea what a > > bubble scheme > > is BTW. > >No decals. Wouldn't work. Turns out there was a "bubble camo" >used on Zeppelin C.II's. It was in a past Windsock, but the >colors have yet to be figured out. > >Think of it as bubbles being painted on the aircraft. Seriously. > > >Matt Bittner >On Vacation > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:34:09 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: dihedral Message-ID: <19991125063409.29857.qmail@hotmail.com> For the likes of Nieuports, Camels, and Albatroses I build them upside down. The top wing goes on first, then provided you get the strut length right the whole assembly is self jigging. Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:56:31 -0600 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: PE Tool for Making Struts? Message-ID: <383CDD9F.201E36E9@airmail.net> Tom Solinski wrote: > Only two problems, one finding a machinist or is that masochist to cut the > holes, and two in your first example you're making round stock minute > differences in the hardness of the wood don't affect the shape much. I fear > the same hard and soft spots would cause the streamlined shape to rotate an > thus vary along its length. BUt let's solve problem one first. Problem one solved: Don't machine it, make it from photo etched material :) Interesting problem two I have to admit. Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:50:22 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers Message-ID: <19991125065022.35993.qmail@hotmail.com> Ray..."Ok I'll bite on this, I thought the bubble camo was an april fools? when it appeared in Windsock. Was that article on the up and up or am I being more dense than normal?....." You know it never even occurred to me, but the word "bubble" can have the same meaning in UK English as the word "spoof" does in US English. It's a thought. Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:51:08 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <0.bb31f6c3.256e446c@aol.com> In a message dated 99-11-25 00:13:32 EST, you write: << And please, please, please - be carefu on those highways this weekend. We need you all back among us on Monday. >> Nobody's going anywhere fast down here in the lower left corner. The 405 north of LAX was backed up solid over the pass into the valley to the 101 intersection (what you get for the famed "worst freeway in North America") and those gambling away the price of Thanksgiving dinner had a 9-10 hour drive on US 15 to Las Vegas (the biggest disappointment on the North American continent - anyone going there *deserves* a 345-mile traffic jam). In the meantime, temperatures have dropped into the lower-mid 60s during the day and the upper 40s at night, so all the El-Layyans are wearing coats and sweaters and generally bundling up for "winter." But then again, soon we will be out on the beach, looking up at the clear blue sky (the smog goes on vacation to Cancun in the winter), in our T-shirts and shorts, and we'll think to ourselves... "God, it's *February*!" Cheers and condolences to all you who live where there is weather, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:28:07 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: 1:72 Throttle quadrants Message-ID: <002e01bf3740$87f861e0$e50156d1@default> If you have one of those Part PE sets with the funny wire wheels, I have a use for them. In detailing a 1:72 cockpit, I found that I needed a throttle quadrant. In pawing through the spare PE box, I find one of those Part wire wheels. Pairs of spokes sort of cross and form an X with the cross point closer to the hub than the rim. I cut the spokes from the rim then cut at the cross.. Perfect vee out of brass. I just took a small instrument beezel and whacked a quarter section out of it. Some fiddling with tweezers & CA, a bit of hsp for the lever and I have a perfect 1:72 throttle quadrant. From apex to top of the lever it is maybe 2mm and from one side of the vee to the other, its a shade over 1mm. fwiw sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:54:02 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Encore WWI 75mm Cannon Message-ID: <009701bf3744$2676ffe0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Edward The FSM issue with the article of this kit is from September '95. There is a double page of drawings in 1/19 scale that allegedly match the model. The article is good and has templates for some replacement pieces as well. Do you have this issue? If not, contact me off list, please. This sept '95 FSM has a lot of WW1 content, as well. And even an article by Ray Rimmell himself! guess about what... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Swaim To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:10 PM Subject: Encore WWI 75mm Cannon > I picked up an Encore 1/24 75mm "WWI 75mm cannon" while on a trip to San > Franciso. > > It isn't the classic "French 75." What is it? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:48:02 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Flashback Aviatik Message-ID: <19991125134802.4933.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> --- John Cyganowski wrote: > I just picked this one up today. Very nice! What is the story > with > Artur/Hippo/Flashback? The Czech Republic seems to be crawling > with WWI > modelers. Good for us though. I want to know to. Is Flashback planning any more wonderful 1/72nd releases like their last two? Eduard's coming out with the Albatros D.V and Fokker Dr.I, but what about Flashback and any others? Believe it or not, there still is a 1/72nd market out there... Here's what I wish for: for Eduard or Flashback to make a 1/72nd SPAD 7 *and* SPAD 13. We would be sure of its accuracy then. So, Eduard and Flashback, thank you for your 1/72nd releases, but how about more? :-) Happy US Thanksgiving to Everyone! Matt Bittner On Vacation __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:50:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modeling duhs, was Age of Modelers Message-ID: <19991125135006.10684.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> --- Ray Boorman wrote: > Ok I'll bite on this, I thought the bubble camo was an april > fools? when it > appeared in Windsock. Was that article on the up and up or am I > being more > dense than normal..... It appeared to me to be on the up and up, especially with the published photo's. Then again, it could all be an elaborate hoax... Matt Bittner On Vacation __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:59:32 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Location of book Message-ID: <19991125135932.10123.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Does anybody know if the book _Farman F40 1916-1919 Corpul Roman de Aviatie_ is available in the states? If not, where can I obtain a copy easily? TIA! Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:59:40 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: dihedral Message-ID: <199911250959_MC2-8E8B-B80C@compuserve.com> Ray, >> I have a question on vacs if the wing is single skinned do you still use structural piano wire pins?.. I m building my first vac and the wings are single skinned. << Most of my vacs are single thickness and I have never used any kind of wire. I will score the wing on the bottom side and then super glue it using the methods you have been reading about. I hold down the center and with a ruler, set the angle that I need. Just keep the wing on a flat, level surface and the angle will be the same on both sides. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/12/99 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:52:37 -0100 From: Unicalce Amministrazione =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alm=E8?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Flashback Aviatik Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991125155237.0079acd0@spm.it> At 08.49 25/11/99 -0500, Matt Bittner wrote: >--- John Cyganowski wrote: > >> I just picked this one up today. Very nice! What is the story >> with >> Artur/Hippo/Flashback? The Czech Republic seems to be crawling >> with WWI >> modelers. Good for us though. > >I want to know to. Is Flashback planning any more wonderful >1/72nd releases like their last two? Eduard's coming out with >the Albatros D.V and Fokker Dr.I, but what about Flashback and >any others? Believe it or not, there still is a 1/72nd market >out there... > >Here's what I wish for: for Eduard or Flashback to make a 1/72nd >SPAD 7 *and* SPAD 13. We would be sure of its accuracy then. > >So, Eduard and Flashback, thank you for your 1/72nd releases, but >how about more? :-) > >Happy US Thanksgiving to Everyone! > > >Matt Bittner >On Vacation I agree, but what about some Italian subjects ? We are left without any decent SVA - 5 or Pomilio PE (BTW, anyone wanting to sell his exemplar of the old Libramodels vacuum-formed kit ?), not to speak of Sia 7b or SAML S.2 ( although the Jostick vafcuum-formed kit was not bad at all). Also, think of French designs like the Nieuport Ni. 17 and the Hanriot Hd. 1. Alberto Casirati. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:19:24 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Was: Modeling duhs, Now: was bubble a hoax Message-ID: <3e9ae63b3559d1466bf10335caff2a07@chalktv.com> I can't beleive how dumb I feel, but I still think this is an April fools. There was one clear picture but a well positioned post separates the fuselage with bubbles from the rest. The other picture isnt very good quality but the bubbles seem clear, which made me suspicious. There were no real known experts sources quoted at the end. Also the contents page has that item in different print and the article seemed to have lighter dry humour to it. Of course I havent seen any retraction either since or note about the humourus bubble camo april fools. Duhhhh I'm confused now. Does anyone know if Peter Grosz have an online presence so I could emil and ask. (Now I've opened this can of worms I have to know). As an aside, you Southern American types have a happy turkey day now, even if you are a month late ;) Ray A Boorman wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Said: > --- Ray Boorman wrote: > > > Ok I'll bite on this, I thought the bubble camo was an > april > > fools? when it > > appeared in Windsock. Was that article on the up and up > or am I > > being more > > dense than normal..... > > It appeared to me to be on the up and up, especially with > the > published photo's. Then again, it could all be an > elaborate > hoax... > > > Matt Bittner > On Vacation > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one > place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > . ______________________________________ Email services provided by ChalkTv.com http://www.chalktv.com Powered by ApexMail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:19:19 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: PE Guns Message-ID: <009801bf3758$8c68ee80$7c2bb8a1@darcy> Is there a PE set out there with more than one set of Spandau per fret? Need a bunch of jackets and ends.TIA. Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:41:38 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1:72 Throttle quadrants Message-ID: <383D58B1.1944A821@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > If you have one of those Part PE sets with the funny wire wheels, I have a > use for them. > Let the Force flow through you... Ernie-wan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:50:15 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: holiday greetings... Message-ID: <383D5AB6.71ECCD7D@bellsouth.net> Hi All, Just taking up a bit of bandwith to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. In addition to all the usual things I'm thankful for, (family, health, shelter,etc...) I'm also very thankful for Eduard/Flashback, who, with the release of the Taube, have made a very long term wish come true. Everything after this is just gravy. Gobble gobble everyone. E. And could someone please confirm that Eduard has an Se5a slated for release, or was this just one of my delusions? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:48:15 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Flashback Aviatik Message-ID: <00dc01bf375c$c9c65340$7c2bb8a1@darcy> Has anyone built one of the Artur kits? Quality? Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: John Cyganowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 24 November, 1999 8:50 PM Subject: Flashback Aviatik > I just picked this one up today. Very nice! What is the story with > Artur/Hippo/Flashback? The Czech Republic seems to be crawling with WWI > modelers. Good for us though. > > Regards, > Cyg. > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1991 **********************