WWI Digest 1977 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Web Site Update by Suvoroff@aol.com 2) Re: Model shoots (was Re: Web Site Update) by Ernest Thomas 3) Whatever happened to...? by "D Charles" 4) PE set by Ernest Thomas 5) Birthday greetings by "Bob Pearson" 6) white kepi and questions by "dfernet0" 7) Re: Birthday greetings by Ernest Thomas 8) Model Photography (was Re: Web Site Update) by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 9) New WWI flight sim (off topic) by Allan Wright 10) SPAD 11 favor by "Matt Bittner" 11) Re: Birthday greetings by Mike Fletcher 12) Re: New WWI flight sim (off topic) by "Andy Kemp" 13) Re: Model shoots (was Re: Web Site Update) by Pedro e Francisca 14) Re: Birthday greetings by Pedro e Francisca 15) Re: Airbrush versus hand brush/ was: Nieuport 17 by "Len Smith" 16) Re: Foreign Morane-Saulnier AIs by "Len Smith" 17) Farman F.40 by "Tom Werner Hansen" 18) Re: Farman F.40 by "Matt Bittner" 19) Re: Whatever happened to...? by KarrArt@aol.com 20) coffee table book roulette wasRe: Raben Rot or Blau? by KarrArt@aol.com 21) Re: Airbrush versus hand brush/ was: Nieuport 17 by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: Airbrush versus hand brush/ was: Nieuport 17 by "PETER LEONARD" 23) Re: Farman F.40 by "Michael Kendix" 24) Back from Oz by "Lance Krieg" 25) Nieuport 17 Instruments by "Lance Krieg" 26) Re: "Black Flight" Triplanes by "Steve Cox" 27) Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek by "Steve Cox" 28) Voss Tross by Ernest Thomas 29) Re: Farman F.40 by BStett3770@aol.com 30) Re: 0/400 wasRe: Web Site(s) Update(s) by "Steven Schofield" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:31:21 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Site Update Message-ID: <0.31d9fbd3.2564f739@aol.com> "Dennis...."# 100: Worked on the >>struts<< the other day and re-read the construction article I have. I'm still on schedule to get started for real around Thanksgiving. I wonder how much I can get done in a four day weekend?" AHA!! So it's a bi-plane then :) Peter L" Not necissarily - lots of OT monoplanes have struts. Especially the parasol types. But now we know that it is some aircraft that has a build article written on it... Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:44:27 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model shoots (was Re: Web Site Update) Message-ID: <3833A04B.578ADBAE@bellsouth.net> Chris Banyai-Riepl wrote: > Ahh, the wonderful world of model photography.... > Oh well, may as well throw in me own .02 US sheckels worth here. Neutral back drop (I use a piece of lt.blue fabric) Natural lighting (out side under the carport) 100 ASA film. Smallest apreture setting (f-16) Timed exposure (camera on auto setting) Self timer (so I don't move the camera doing a manual shutter release) Tripod (a must for timed exposure). White card reflector to light up undersides (I always forget this for some reason) Click here; http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Thomas/models.html to see my results. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:25:56 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Whatever happened to...? Message-ID: <000501bf3196$a367af80$27b93ecb@Charls> Hullo all, Does anyone know what happened to, or the whereabouts of, a replica RAF BE2c which was under construction in California (Mojave) in 1991? See Aeroplane Monthly, March, 1992. And what about the Sopwith Dolphin reported in Air Enthusiast 13 as being at Old Rhinebeck in 1980? Where are they now? David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:39:09 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: PE set Message-ID: <3833AD1D.D9D09714@bellsouth.net> Hi All, To those who have a BM Pfalz D-XII in their stockpile, I can recomend CSM's D-XII PE set. Without going into detail, you get a whole bunch of really nice parts that you don't get with the BM kit. Well worth the seven US bucks I paid. Just a fwiw... E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:04:10 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Birthday greetings Message-ID: <199911180806.AAA18890@mail.rapidnet.net> Twas on this date not so many years ago that Chris Banyai-Riepl appeared on the scene (he's just a young 'un still - we don't keep track of age until 30) Happy birthday Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:00:05 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: white kepi and questions Message-ID: <00c701bf31b4$12443f00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sorry boys, I'm back. The nearest "Legion Etràngere" drive-in-recruitment kiosk rejected my application. They aduced that I'm too weird and a lousy french pronounciation. So, I'll keep my unmade kits for eventual completion. But those already done were thrown to the flames. ;-) To make this post at least a bit on topic, I'll ask a question to the merry band: Does anybody has seen a picture of a refuelling operation of german fighter planes? Why pictures of ground crew working with the machines are so scarce? I've seen just a few of a mechanic working on the engine, but none of refuelling, starting the engine or filling a tyre. Were photo sessions such a "formal" occasion? Most of the german pictures of ww1 seems carefully posed. I guess that the exposure time or the bulk of the photo equipment are factors, but I've seen more "overhaul and maintenance" pictures of british machines than from other countries. Maybe other nations considered that maintenance shots were too revealling of the airplane functioning? Just wondering. D. PS: Shane, is Murarrie that town near Walkabout Creek? Give my regards to Donk. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 06:36:02 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Birthday greetings Message-ID: <3833F2B1.33519CE2@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > > Happy birthday Chris Yeah, what Bob said. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:20:38 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Model Photography (was Re: Web Site Update) Message-ID: Dennis asked >> Anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for a digital camera? << I have been very happy with my Kodak DC260. I am still trying to get the process down, since practice is still the keyword in photography. It does a pretty decent job on close ups. There different resolutions also, ands it is classified in the "megapixel" range of cameras. Another plus, although I haven't got them yet, is that Kodak has recently released a set of lenses for the camera, including a close-up lense. The only negative thing I have to say is that downloading the pictures takes a lot of time, as my PC doesn't have a USB port on it. Check out the pictures of my Nieuport 17 and Hanriot HD.2 on my model page on Al's site (http://pease1.unh.edu/Images/Schwartzkopf/index.html). A friend of mine takes pictures of model railroad set-ups and train cars for publishing in various railroad magazines, books, etc. He told me that he likes to work with a remote flash unit and the camera on the tripod. He takes 2-3 exposures for each picture, holding the flash at a different location in order to cancel out shadows, and without moving the camera. It seems to work out quite nicely with good results. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:35:55 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: New WWI flight sim (off topic) Message-ID: <199911181335.IAA24392@pease1.sr.unh.edu> List, please reply off list to johan - this is a FYI, not intending to re-start that WWI flight sim thread. Thanks, Allan Message below: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:43:20 +0100 From: Johan Bergkvist Subject: New WWI flight sim Hello Allan, firstly I would like to thank you for a job well done. I have followed the progress of the World War I Modeling Page for some time and it has been very useful to me. The reason why I write you is that http://www.combatsim.com at the moment has a poll regarding the interest in a new WWI flight simulation. I believe that this could be a way to promote a general interest in WWI aviation. Combatsim does have some influence in the business and a popular computer game will most certainly raise an interest in WWI flight. If you see it fitting, please forward this information to the mailing list. Johan Bergkvist P.S. My Sopwith Snipes are coming along well, one is done except rigging and decals, the other still needs landing gear. Once they're done there will of course be pictures. =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:08:32 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: SPAD 11 favor Message-ID: <199911181402.IAA18420@itd.sterling.com> Does anybody own the Planet SPAD 11? Could someone send me ASAP the number of parts in the kit? TIA! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:34:45 -0500 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Birthday greetings Message-ID: <38341C95.FA0E0A62@home.com> Hey! there's someone younger than me here! Happy Birthday! Bob Pearson wrote: > > Twas on this date not so many years ago that Chris Banyai-Riepl appeared on > the scene (he's just a young 'un still - we don't keep track of age until > 30) > > Happy birthday Chris -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html While the man who is master of his soul is superior to those whom Ptah has loaded with his gifts; the man who obeys his passion is under the power of his wife. The Precepts of Ptah-Hotep, c. 2200 BCE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:44:32 -0000 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: New WWI flight sim (off topic) Message-ID: <003901bf31e4$42facb20$03000004@675> I know that Rowan (read Empire) ARE planning a new WW1 flightsim to follow up Flying Corps ... Andy K ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 1:36 PM Subject: New WWI flight sim (off topic) > List, please reply off list to johan - this is a FYI, not intending to > re-start that WWI flight sim thread. > > Thanks, > Allan > > Message below: > > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:43:20 +0100 > From: Johan Bergkvist > Subject: New WWI flight sim > > Hello Allan, > firstly I would like to thank you for a job well done. I have followed > the progress of the World War I Modeling Page for some time and it has > been very useful to me. > > The reason why I write you is that http://www.combatsim.com at the > moment has a poll regarding the interest in a new WWI flight simulation. > I believe that this could be a way to promote a general interest in WWI > aviation. Combatsim does have some influence in the business and a > popular computer game will most certainly raise an interest in WWI > flight. > > If you see it fitting, please forward this information to the mailing > list. > > Johan Bergkvist > > > P.S. My Sopwith Snipes are coming along well, one is done except rigging > and decals, the other still needs landing gear. Once they're done there will > of course be pictures. > > ============================================================ =================== > Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ > University of New Hampshire+-------------------------------------------------- - > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > ============================================================ =================== > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:32:38 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model shoots (was Re: Web Site Update) Message-ID: <38344646.FF030B3E@mail.telepac.pt> Ernest Thomas wrote:. Oh well, may as well throw in me own .02 US sheckels worth here. > > Neutral back drop (I use a piece of lt.blue fabric) > Natural lighting (out side under the carport) > 100 ASA film. > Smallest apreture setting (f-16) > Timed exposure (camera on auto setting) > Self timer (so I don't move the camera doing a manual shutter release) > Tripod (a must for timed exposure). > White card reflector to light up undersides (I always forget this for some > reason) > Click here; http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Thomas/models.html to see my > results. > E. That's my set up too and it works fine. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:34:07 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Birthday greetings Message-ID: <3834469E.180154AE@mail.telepac.pt> Bob Pearson wrote: > Twas on this date not so many years ago that Chris Banyai-Riepl appeared on > the scene (he's just a young 'un still - we don't keep track of age until > 30) > > Happy birthday Chris Oh great, another excuse for a glass. here's to you Chris, may you live a long and prosperous life (and may we live to see it too ;-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:31:47 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Airbrush versus hand brush/ was: Nieuport 17 Message-ID: <000201bf31f5$1f819dc0$2f857ed4@default> Michael, > The acrylics don't go on as well with a brush.< There are two reasons for this (misleading) statement:- 1. You are using the wrong brand of acrylics. 2. You are using the wrong quality of brush. ( I would not dream of questioning your artistic ability or manual dexterity!!) A couple of years back I started experimenting with acrylics using the big name brands from Tamiya etc. and found I could not get on with them at all, the results were terrible. Then a friend recommended the Citadel Miniature range from Games Workshop and everything changed. They can be brushed straight from the pot, thinned with water for a two coat application, or mixed with Klear (Future) for a gloss finish. I agree that some of the metallics are weak, I still use Humbrol Copper and Brass, otherwise they are the bees knees or cats whisker! As for brushes the old advice to buy the best you can afford still applies, the major Artists suppliers do good quality water colour (color) ranges. As usual I go another way, my brushes come from a small firm in London who make nothing but brushes of all shapes and sizes, and they are excellent. My thanks for your concern for my health, as you may obseve I am back "in form", but "slings and arrows" really...... just gentle comments, old son. Regards Len. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:46:59 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Foreign Morane-Saulnier AIs Message-ID: <000101bf31f5$1e212360$2f857ed4@default> Chris, The only non-French photos in the Datafile are an AI in Belgian service (9 Escadrille) and another in Swiss markings, with the note that the type was not adopted by the Swiss Air Force. There is also the following:- "another singleton was acquired by Japan in 1922 for evaluation as an advanced trainer, but the type was not adopted by that country. It is believed that one specimen went to the Soviet Union." and "For use as fighter trainers the US Air Service acquired 51 MoS.30.E 1s and employed them at Issoudun." Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Banyai-Riepl To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 5:06 AM Subject: Foreign Morane-Saulnier AIs > Greetings everyone, > I'm looking for information on M-S AIs in non-French service. Poland, > Japan, Belgium and Switzerland are the countries I've come up with so far, > and I'm looking for pictures of the Japanese and Polish ones, as well as any > other countries that flew this plane. I don't have the Datafile on it, so > if anyone has that, could you tell me if there's anything in there on these > guys? Thanks! > > Chris Banyai-Riepl > Publisher/Editor > Internet Modeler > http://www.internetmodeler.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:00:15 +0100 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: Farman F.40 Message-ID: <199911181900.UAA20055@golf.dax.net> Hiyall Anybody know of any available kits of this one? 1/72 because the rest of my kits of Norwegian machines are all munchkin scale. I just got a copy of a set of drawings (thanks Len), that should make this a viable proposition. I think the Norwegian machines had the 130 h.p. Renault engine, but a re-engining should be possible. Tom W ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:05:41 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Farman F.40 Message-ID: <199911181855.MAA07153@itd.sterling.com> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:59:58 -0500 (EST), Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > Anybody know of any available kits of this one? 1/72 because the rest of my > kits of Norwegian machines are all munchkin scale. I just got a copy of a > set of drawings (thanks Len), that should make this a viable proposition. > I think the Norwegian machines had the 130 h.p. Renault engine, but a > re-engining should be possible. F.40bis by Roseplane I think F.40 by Omega? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:18:45 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Whatever happened to...? Message-ID: <0.88c8b86.2565ab15@aol.com> In a message dated 11/17/99 11:29:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, charls@bit.net.au writes: << Does anyone know what happened to, or the whereabouts of, a replica RAF BE2c which was under construction in California (Mojave) in 1991? See Aeroplane Monthly, March, 1992. And what about the Sopwith Dolphin reported in Air Enthusiast 13 as being at Old Rhinebeck in 1980? Where are they now? >> Somebody more familiar with the Rhinebeck machines can speak for the Dolphin -great crash pics of it a few years ago in WW I Aero BTW- but it's since been repaired. I don't know what happened to the BE2c except that it was originally powered by some small auto engine, which screwed up the nose appearence- then it was sold, and a genuine 80hp Renault engine was found, refurbished and installed...it looked PERFECT...last I heard it was in Nevada but that was a couple of years ago. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:18:47 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: coffee table book roulette wasRe: Raben Rot or Blau? Message-ID: <0.51e1ba05.2565ab17@aol.com> In a message dated 11/17/99 9:03:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, nieuport@home.com writes: << One of these coffee table books contributed one of the few 1917 Nieuport monoplane photographs I have seen. I bought it used (and old) for that one picture - it had absolutely nothing else to offer except colour shots of replicas (bad ones at that) and a few stock shots including precious few period, which are always lauded for how rare they are - "Extremely rare ... from the great war!!! " etc etc, except when they really are. >> An otherwise horrible, but heavy hardback on naval history yielded the best picture I ever saw showing the mid-section of the HP 0/400......and also had a great cutaway of the off-topic Gladiator ( MUCH better than the dime-a-dozen cookie-cutter cutaways we're used to seeing)...the book was worth it just for these two items...it cost maybe $8. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:45:12 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airbrush versus hand brush/ was: Nieuport 17 Message-ID: <19991118194512.70560.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: "Len Smith" >1999 13:45:07 -0500 (EST) Then a friend recommended the Citadel Miniature >range from Games Workshop and everything changed. They can be brushed >straight from the pot, thinned with water for a two coat application, or >mixed with Klear (Future) for a gloss finish. I agree that some of the >metallics are weak, I still use Humbrol Copper and Brass, otherwise they >are >the bees knees or cats whisker! > >As for brushes the old advice to buy the best you can afford still applies, >the major Artists suppliers do good quality water colour (color) ranges. >As >usual I go another way, my brushes come from a small firm in London who >make >nothing but brushes of all shapes and sizes, and they are excellent. > I haven't heard of Citadel Miniature, so perhaps I could try to find some around here (Washington DC area). I am also going to try Gunze Sangyo (sp?)about which I've heard good things. I agree that Tamiya's rubbish with a brush, and I haven't attempted to spray them. Thanks, Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:05:11 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airbrush versus hand brush/ was: Nieuport 17 Message-ID: <19991118200511.77321.qmail@hotmail.com> Michael.."I am also going to try Gunze Sangyo" You'll find them much of a muchness. I favour Gunze because the jar screws right on to a Badger, though I spray only infrequently , but they don't brush at all well IMO. I should have a local supplier in these parts for Citadel, I'll have a go. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:09:38 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Farman F.40 Message-ID: <19991118200939.76303.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: "Tom Werner Hansen" >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:59:58 -0500 (EST) > >Hiyall > >Anybody know of any available kits of this one? 1/72 because the >rest of >my kits of Norwegian machines are all munchkin scale. I just >got a copy of >a set of drawings (thanks Len), that should make this >a viable >proposition. >I think the Norwegian machines had the 130 h.p. Renault engine, but a >re-engining should be possible. > >Tom W Tom: Check out http://www.internetmodeler.com/july99/aviation/farman.htm in which Dennis Ugulano does a first rate job on Roseplane's 1/72nd scale Farman F-40 bis. I can vouch for the quality of the kit in the box (bag) but I haven't put it together yet. Also, in this month's Internet Modeler, Peter Leonard reviewed a Farman F-40 book published by Modelism (sp?) in Romania. Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:13:33 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Back from Oz Message-ID: I have returned from Down Under, only slightly damaged. The opprobrium that is attached to American rugby has been eclipsed by New Zealand's loss to France in the Rugby World Cup. I expect the government in Wellington to fall. Canberra features a very nice War Memorial, but as is typical when one travels thousands of miles to see something, the airplanes were unavailable while the museum completes a remodel! Oh, well. There is an AVRO 504K in the Sydney airport, but it has been completed as an early Qantas bird with an in-line engine. What did I miss? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:17:56 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Nieuport 17 Instruments Message-ID: I am working on Eduard's N.17, and while my references on the interior are pretty good, I find no hint as to a compass. I'm willing to believe that the Aviation Militaire flew with minimal instrumentation, but no compass? Any ideas? TIA Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:54:55 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Black Flight" Triplanes Message-ID: A few more triplane names from the Royal Navy Aircraft Serials and Units 1911-1919 N5382 OOSLUMBIRD N5387 PEGGY N5449 was named JOAN before becoming BINKY N5455 WILLA N5472 PEGGY No.3 Sqn had some Pups N6171 BLACK ARROW N6172 BLACK TULIP Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get more models finished ================ ---------- >From: "Bob Pearson" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: "Black Flight" Triplanes >Date: Wed, Nov 17, 1999, 5:21 am > > Here is what I sent to another fellow on various Tripes a couple years ago > > ---------------- > Black Maria - Collishaw N5490, N5492 and N533 (a two-gun Clayton and > Shuttleworth built a/c). At least N533 also carried the letter C on fuselage > sides and stabilizer and had a black fin as well > > Black Prince - Alexander N5487 > Black Sheep - Nash N5376 > Black Death - Sharman N6307 > Black Roger - Reid N5483 > > All of these may have also had the pilot's initial added at > some point because........... > > N5358 Q FSL Saunders (letter Q as S was taken by Sharman) > N5357 K FSL Kent > N6292 B FSL Saint > > > And for some more cool Tripes there are the named ones at Naval Eight .. . > SERIAL NAME NOTE > N5449 BINKY III > N5439 WHITFIELD no photo > N5464 DORIS > N5454 HILDA I had it correct as N5454, Squadron/Signal boo-booed > N5450 TIKI no photo (may be the same spelling as N5187) > N5442 PIP no photo > N5467 MINCOL no photo > XXXXX BRENDA no photo > N5474 GWEN > N5493 BLYMP > N6292 LILY > XXXXX VEDA > N5468 ANGEL > XXXXX SNAPP > N6290 DIXIE II red/white band > N5482 MAUD zig-zag bands > N6301 DUSTY II red/white band > N5421 HIGH JINKS no photo > > Of those listed above only DIXIE II has a white outline to the roundels. All > serials are in black on a white rectangle. Most have plain fins with the > Sopwith logo and LIFT HERE marks on fuselage sides. I > > They also named Sopwith Pups and Nieuport 21's. I have done profiles of > > N5187 TICKIE (or VICKIE, photo is unclear) Pup > N5185 BINKY II > > 3956 BINKY Ni.21 > > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > > Visit my WW1 Aviation page > http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 > > For the CBR/RNP Profile page visit > http://members.xoom.com/profileart/ > > Managing Editor / Internet Modeler > http://www.internetmodeler.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:17:29 +0000 From: "Steve Cox" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek Message-ID: My reference says " the standard triplane wings were mounted as far forward as possible..." "two modified Dr1 wings with aileron on the top one were installed as a biplane set..." I don't know if the triplane wings were those used on the V6, which were scaled up versions of those used on the Dr1. Difficult to tell from the picture I have, but I would go for the V6 wings. HTH Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get more models finished ================ ---------- >From: REwing@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek >Date: Wed, Nov 17, 1999, 5:41 am > > << yes yes...... far stranger than anything imaginary......the one, the only > Fokker Quintuplane....five wing fulls of aerodynamic oddballery...inline > engine.....three wings up front...two behind the cockpit.. I'll tempt you > with a good three view! > RK > >> > I was just looking at this plane yesterday. I was curious what the > wings looked like. Does a good three view really exist? Could I get a copy? > Thanks. > -Rick- > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:55:40 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: Voss Tross Message-ID: <383467CB.E122A757@bellsouth.net> Hi all, So I'm three steps(if you caount rigging as one step) away from finishing the Edwerd Alb. D-III. I know you've this before, but it really does build up into a lovely model. But I must offer this waring to those suffering from AMS; 11 out of 12 spark plug wires are a total waste of time. E. And yes, I'll be taking pictures(using Pedro's method) as soon as it's done. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:29:35 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Farman F.40 Message-ID: <0.2fa56c91.2565c9bf@aol.com> Hi Tom As the others mentioned we (Roseplane) make the F-40bis - 1/72 Vacform with resin details. Omega makes the F-30 & F-30bis Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:36:44 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Re: 0/400 wasRe: Web Site(s) Update(s) Message-ID: <004001bf320d$17c7d8c0$61a893c3@oemcomputer> > > I gather you're doing the Airfix 1/72 kit, but some of the details may be > applicable! > Robert K. > Thanks Robert, your 0-400 mantelpiece is already printed out and pasted over my workbench. I may not go in for the 'detailing for God' that you did, but I will want to add some 'busy-ness' to the gunner's emplacement and the cockpit. I just wish there was a more interesting colour scheme than 'kind of green all over.' Scho www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1977 **********************