WWI Digest 1975 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Fokker DVII one more time by "PETER LEONARD" 2) Re: Fokker DVII by Ernest Thomas 3) Rosemont - OTF by BStett3770@aol.com 4) P.S to Re: Fokker DVII one more time by "PETER LEONARD" 5) Re: Windsocks & OTF - 4 sale by "Chris Cato" 6) Re: Internet Modeler O/400 by Goebel Family 7) Re: "Build the same kit" competition by "K. Hagerup" 8) Re: Fokker DVII by "Dale Beamish" 9) Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek by Brent & Tina Theobald 10) Re: "Build the same kit" competition by Ernest Thomas 11) P.S. to Fokker DVII one more time by "PETER LEONARD" 12) Re: P.S to Re: Fokker DVII one more time by ERIC HIGHT 13) Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek by "Bob Pearson" 14) Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time by Tom Solinski 15) Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time by "Leonard Endy" 16) Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time by "PETER LEONARD" 17) Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time by "Bob Pearson" 18) Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time by "Bob Pearson" 19) Windsock 4 sale- Pt#2 by BStett3770@aol.com 20) Re: "Build the same kit" competition by Scottfking@aol.com 21) "Black Flight" Triplanes by Scottfking@aol.com 22) Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time by Zulis@aol.com 23) RE: "Black Flight" Triplanes by Shane Weier 24) Re: "Black Flight" Triplanes by Zulis@aol.com 25) Re: "Black Flight" Triplanes by "Bob Pearson" 26) Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek by REwing@aol.com 27) Re: "Build the same kit" competition by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 28) Re: P.S. to Fokker DVII one more time by BEN8800@aol.com 29) Alberto Casirati's Models by Allan Wright 30) RE: Alberto Casirati's Models by "dfernet0" 31) Re: Alberto Casirati's Models by "Matt Bittner" 32) Re: Nieuport 17 by "Len Smith" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:12:12 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <19991117011212.87682.qmail@hotmail.com> If by "the big D7 Datafile" you meen the Anthology, take a look at fig D and the photograph above it on page 45. Also consider Raben's all red D7 with whit tail. The fuselage marking for this one is exactly as the illustration on the cover of Datafile #9, except that it is white instead of black. IMO single colour schemes are not so easy as they may appear . Take a leaf out of the figure painters book ,try to incorporate some light and shade effects into the finnish and paint the black machine a very dark blue grey rather than black. Also do yourself a favour, follow Bob Pearsons advice and check out his D7 profiles in last months Internet Modeler. hth Peter Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:10:51 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DVII Message-ID: <3832009B.314314EF@bellsouth.net> BEN8800@aol.com wrote: > OK, now that you guys have blown me out of the air that the Revell 1/28 DVII > kit loz decals stink, how about the DML 1/48 kit. Are these decals ok? I'm afraid the DML loz emits odors even more foul than the Revell. The colors aren't accurate either. Not even close. Sorry. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:30:50 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Rosemont - OTF Message-ID: <0.628c1df2.25635f4a@aol.com> hi Gang OTF sold Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:32:54 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: P.S to Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <19991117013254.74905.qmail@hotmail.com> Ben, I forgot to say that Dicta Ira very definitely applies here. If this model is destined to stay on your display shelf at home then all that really matters is that YOU like it. IMHO we pay far too much attention to magazine articles written by competition modellers when we should be listening to our own modelling impulses and enjoying the hobby. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:34:56 -0500 From: "Chris Cato" To: Subject: Re: Windsocks & OTF - 4 sale Message-ID: <00cd01bf309b$f577da80$659042d1@cato> Barry, I'd be interested in the OTF vol 9/4... Chris -----Original Message----- From: BStett3770@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:01 PM Subject: Windsocks & OTF - 4 sale >Hi Gang > >Just purchased another pile of Windsock magazines today. >Offering to the group before I put em on E-bay > >Have the following: > >All in V/G shape > >Vol#3 1987 all 4 issues - $60 >Vol#4 1988 all 4 issues - $50 >Vol#5 1989 all 4 issues - $50 >Vol#10 1994 - 6 issues - $50 > >Above sold as full sets only > >Assorted issues > >Vol #7 1991 - #3 , #6 - $10 each >Vol #8 1992 - #4 - $9 >Vol #9 1993- #5 - $9 >Vol#11 - 1995 - #1 ,#4,#5,#6 - $9 each >Vol #12 - 1996 #6 - $9 >Best of Windsock Vol#2 - $15 > >Over the Front > >Vol 6 #1 winter 1991 - $10 >Vol 8 #1 Spring 1993 - $8.00 >Vol 8 #3 Winter 1993 - $8.00 >Vol9 #1 Spring 1994 - $7.00 >Vol9 #4 Fall 1994 - $7.00 > >Post on all above extra > >E-mail me off list is interested - bstett3770@aol.com >I'm not at the shop - so I can't answer the phone. > >I'll log back on to check my mail around 11am tonight. > >Also have a pile of W.W.I Aero, I'll post those tomorrow > >Barry >Rosemont Hobby >www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:44:41 -0800 From: Goebel Family To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Internet Modeler O/400 Message-ID: <38320889.E06AB78A@gte.net> Well, heck, since I scratchbuilt a 0/400 in 1/48, I'll see what I can dig up- detail wise. Also, If you want to see the horrible thing I concocted, go directly to the article in the IM archives at:: Robert, Beautiful model and most informative article! Craig Goebel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:55:19 -0600 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Build the same kit" competition Message-ID: <38320B07.3C68@prodigy.net> The club I used to attend had a same kit contest with three categories: Out of the Box - IPMS rules Out of Control - Scratchbuilt parts, resin, P/E, etc. Out Of Context - The subject transformed into something completely different I liked it. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:53:22 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Fokker DVII Message-ID: <004901bf309f$6bbf5da0$0100007f@darcy> The only day I see them as any good would be Halloween. IMHO Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 16 November, 1999 5:38 PM Subject: Fokker DVII > OK, now that you guys have blown me out of the air that the Revell 1/28 DVII > kit loz decals stink, how about the DML 1/48 kit. Are these decals ok? They > sure look a lot paler than the Revell decals and they do include the top and > bottom sides of the wing. > > Ben > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:24:53 -0600 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek Message-ID: <383211F5.8C9775A4@airmail.net> How about the Albatros D.Vz? The ever popular Zwilling variant. Actually the History Channel showed a biplane armed with 30 Tommy guns. All the weight of guns and ammo ruined the flying characteristics, but it was an interesting idea. It looked like a Jenny, but it was a quick clip. I guess the idea was to use it for close (very close) ground support. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:20:14 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Build the same kit" competition Message-ID: <383210DD.8BB85C96@bellsouth.net> "K. Hagerup" wrote: > The club I used to attend had a same kit contest with three categories: > > Out of the Box - IPMS rules > Out of Control - Scratchbuilt parts, resin, P/E, etc. > Out Of Context - The subject transformed into something completely > different This sounds fun. Especailly the out of context cat. Which reminds me, I haven't worked on the VW Buzz Bomb in some time. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:21:28 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: P.S. to Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <19991117022129.61991.qmail@hotmail.com> Ben, I already posted this a while ago but it didn't show. Sorry if it shows up twice, but I have a bee in my bonnet about this. What I neglected to mention before is that this is definitely a case where Dicta Ira applies. If the model is destined to remain on your display shelf, then all that really matters is that YOU like it. IMHO we pay too much attention to the views of competition modellers, as expressed in magazines and elswhere, when we should be listening to our own modelling instincts. Don't get me wrong, I speak as a sometimes competition modeller myself, but though building for competion and building for recreation CAN acheive the same standard, they don't have to. You must set your own standard, you don't nead anyone to do that for you. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:22:17 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: P.S to Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991116192217.00736754@pop.amug.org> peter, i'll second that. you hit the nail on the head. eric At 08:34 PM 11/16/99 -0500, you wrote: >Ben, I forgot to say that Dicta Ira very definitely applies here. If this >model is destined to stay on your display shelf at home then all that really >matters is that YOU like it. IMHO we pay far too much attention to magazine >articles written by competition modellers when we should be listening to our >own modelling impulses and enjoying the hobby. > >Peter > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:26:14 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek Message-ID: <199911170236.SAA24214@mail.rapidnet.net> There is a 4 part series on a British flyer from WW1 to modern times featuring interviews with him as well as period photos ... while flying in Mesopotamia or such he attached 6 Lewis guns to the spreader bar of his u/c. . he tested it by firing it into a nearby river and panicked a cavalry unit at rest. There is a photo of this setup in an old C&C(GB) Bob (whoi is too lazy to look at the tape to see the title) ---------- >From: Brent & Tina Theobald >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek >Date: Tue, Nov 16, 1999, 6:17 PM > > How about the Albatros D.Vz? The ever popular Zwilling variant. > > Actually the History Channel showed a biplane armed with 30 Tommy guns. All the > weight of guns and ammo ruined the flying characteristics, but it was an > interesting idea. It looked like a Jenny, but it was a quick clip. > > I guess the idea was to use it for close (very close) ground support. > > Later! > > Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:40:22 -0600 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <383223A6.248E0568@ionet.net> PETER, what a wonderful segway: > . Also consider Raben's all red D7 with whit tail. The fuselage marking for > this one is exactly as the illustration > on the cover of Datafile #9, except that it is white instead of black. I ask the learned clan. Is Raben's Dr-I Red and white like the D-VII? Or was it Blue and white? I've found references stating both TIA Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:56:49 -0500 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:43:36 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >I ask the learned clan. Is Raben's Dr-I Red and white like the D-VII? Or was >it Blue and white? I've found references stating both > >TIA >Tom S I have one done in the blue/ white and although it looks nice the consensus is that it should be red/ white. The Squadron/Signal book states it is blue/white...I believe all other refs call for red/white. Len (Who will eventually do another Dr.1 in the red/white scheme.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:58:01 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <19991117035801.85528.qmail@hotmail.com> Tom, that's a good question isn't it :) Years ago the Dr1 was invariably depicted as blue, then, suddenly, it was red. Now I note that a recent reference once again has it blue (though this is a coffee table compilation and is probably cobbled together from seventies proofs) Just another example of how there is no such thing as certainty in this area of research. Colour police please take note Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:59:26 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <199911170401.UAA27108@mail.rapidnet.net> Red and white. . on both the Dr.I and D.VII (and an Albatros as well) .. there is an article in C&C within the last year or three explaining how the blue/white came about .... in the end it goes back to Rodney Gerrard. . at the time it was also thought to be Jasta 73 or 74. . not Jasta 18. Either Greg VanWyngarden or Jon Guttman was also taken in by this and wrote an article on Jasta 7x - the Rabens' for Aerodrome Modeler in the mid 1970s .. AE Ferko covers jasta 18 in his Fliegertruppe Nr.2 and Windsock 10/4 does as well. Using all of the above I have a dozen or so profiles of their aircraft on my forthcoming CD .. Bob ---------- >From: Tom Solinski >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time >Date: Tue, Nov 16, 1999, 7:43 PM > > > > PETER, what a wonderful segway: > >> . Also consider Raben's all red D7 with whit tail. The fuselage marking for >> this one is exactly as the illustration >> on the cover of Datafile #9, except that it is white instead of black. > > I ask the learned clan. Is Raben's Dr-I Red and white like the D-VII? Or was > it Blue and white? I've found references stating both > > TIA > Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:14:51 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <199911170416.UAA27827@mail.rapidnet.net> Those coffe table books are the bane of my existance .. and the same images from them go from publisher to publisher and they then get cited as a source .. which gets used again. . which then gets cited .. 100 years on it is a masterpiece .. when the reality is it is a piece of something .. but master doesn't come to mind Bob ---------- >From: "PETER LEONARD" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time >Date: Tue, Nov 16, 1999, 7:58 PM > > Tom, that's a good question isn't it :) Years ago the Dr1 was invariably > depicted as blue, then, suddenly, it was red. Now I note that a recent > reference once again has it blue (though this is a coffee table compilation > and is probably cobbled together from seventies proofs) Just another example > of how there is no such thing as certainty in this area of research. Colour > police please take note > > Peter Leonard > IPMS UK > Lancashire & Cheshire Branch > http://www.storks.cwc.net > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > PeterL@cwcom.net > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:16:41 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Windsock 4 sale- Pt#2 Message-ID: <0.b3e19811.25638629@aol.com> Hi Gang Heres what left Vol10 1994 - 6 issues - $50 Vol7 #3 1991 - $10 Vol9 #5 1993 - $9 Vol11 , #1,#4,#5,# 6 1995 - $9 Vol12 #6 - 1996 - $9 Best of Windsock Vol2 - $15 E-mail me off list at : bstett3770@aol.com or call 610 502 1137 10am to 4pm EST Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:43:54 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Build the same kit" competition Message-ID: <0.6b41ac32.25638c8a@aol.com> In a message dated 11/14/99 10:16:18 PM EST, Suvoroff@aol.com writes: << Out of curiousity, does any other club have an annual 'Build the same kit' competition? This year, ours was the Revell Me 262 (sorry, at least it was in 1/72nd scale:)). I actually missed that meeting." >> Actually our local club, the Military Modelers Club of Louisville does this on a quarterly basis. The members vote on the category (armor, aircraft, etc) and then on the particular subject. Some past subjects were, Tamiya Brewster Buffalo, 1/48 Mustang, 1/35 Sherman. Next up T34. Builders get a couple of months to finish and on the appointed meeting night, all entries are judged by the membership, the club and the local hobby shop sponsor the prizes. Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:44:12 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: "Black Flight" Triplanes Message-ID: <0.e8f32c25.25638c9c@aol.com> Hi all, A friend of mine is building Naval 10 Sopwith Triplanes and needs to know if anyone knows the serial number for Black Prince, Black Roger, or Black Death. I think Black Prince was N5487 (?) If anyone can help he would be most appreciative. TIA Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:46:05 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Raben Rot or Blau? was Re: Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <0.53d4cee4.25638d0d@aol.com> << Red and white. . on both the Dr.I and D.VII (and an Albatros as well) .. there is an article in C&C within the last year or three explaining how the blue/white came about .... in the end it goes back to Rodney Gerrard. >> Regarding the Dr.I - the coolest looking completed model in my collection is, you guessed it, a blue and white Raben Dr.I. I understand Dicta Ira as well as the next guy, but that is really annoying.... DZ ps - come to think of it... that above should all be in the past-tense. The blue bird bit the dust in the bookshelf crash of 99 ..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:48:22 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: "Black Flight" Triplanes Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD19E0@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > A friend of mine is building Naval 10 Sopwith Triplanes and > needs to know if > anyone knows the serial number for Black Prince, Black Roger, > or Black Death. > I think Black Prince was N5487 (?) If anyone can help he > would be most appreciative. > BOB !!!!! Skippies CALLING YOUUUUUU!! Shane .. ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:53:20 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Black Flight" Triplanes Message-ID: <0.ba14516f.25638ec0@aol.com> Skippy enquired: << A friend of mine is building Naval 10 Sopwith Triplanes and needs to know if anyone knows the serial number for Black Prince, Black Roger, or Black Death. I think Black Prince was N5487 (?) If anyone can help he would be most appreciative. >> Black Prince - N5487 Black Roger - N5483 Black Death - N6307 (At least according to my files....) DZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:21:13 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Black Flight" Triplanes Message-ID: <199911170523.VAA30212@mail.rapidnet.net> Here is what I sent to another fellow on various Tripes a couple years ago ---------------- Black Maria - Collishaw N5490, N5492 and N533 (a two-gun Clayton and Shuttleworth built a/c). At least N533 also carried the letter C on fuselage sides and stabilizer and had a black fin as well Black Prince - Alexander N5487 Black Sheep - Nash N5376 Black Death - Sharman N6307 Black Roger - Reid N5483 All of these may have also had the pilot's initial added at some point because........... N5358 Q FSL Saunders (letter Q as S was taken by Sharman) N5357 K FSL Kent N6292 B FSL Saint And for some more cool Tripes there are the named ones at Naval Eight .. . SERIAL NAME NOTE N5449 BINKY III N5439 WHITFIELD no photo N5464 DORIS N5454 HILDA I had it correct as N5454, Squadron/Signal boo-booed N5450 TIKI no photo (may be the same spelling as N5187) N5442 PIP no photo N5467 MINCOL no photo XXXXX BRENDA no photo N5474 GWEN N5493 BLYMP N6292 LILY XXXXX VEDA N5468 ANGEL XXXXX SNAPP N6290 DIXIE II red/white band N5482 MAUD zig-zag bands N6301 DUSTY II red/white band N5421 HIGH JINKS no photo Of those listed above only DIXIE II has a white outline to the roundels. All serials are in black on a white rectangle. Most have plain fins with the Sopwith logo and LIFT HERE marks on fuselage sides. I They also named Sopwith Pups and Nieuport 21's. I have done profiles of N5187 TICKIE (or VICKIE, photo is unclear) Pup N5185 BINKY II 3956 BINKY Ni.21 Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 Aviation page http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 For the CBR/RNP Profile page visit http://members.xoom.com/profileart/ Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:40:58 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Wings of 1919 Tongue in cheek Message-ID: <0.874b63b0.256399ea@aol.com> << yes yes...... far stranger than anything imaginary......the one, the only Fokker Quintuplane....five wing fulls of aerodynamic oddballery...inline engine.....three wings up front...two behind the cockpit.. I'll tempt you with a good three view! RK >> I was just looking at this plane yesterday. I was curious what the wings looked like. Does a good three view really exist? Could I get a copy? Thanks. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:23 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Build the same kit" competition Message-ID: >>Actually our local club, the Military Modelers Club of Louisville does this on a quarterly basis. The members vote on the category (armor, aircraft, etc) and then on the particular subject. Some past subjects were, Tamiya Brewster Buffalo, 1/48 Mustang, 1/35 Sherman. Next up T34. Builders get a couple of months to finish and on the appointed meeting night, all entries are judged by the membership, the club and the local hobby shop sponsor the prizes. Skippy<< Sounds like a good idea. Personally, I jump from one modeling subject to another, although concentrating on WW1 aircraft. I find this helps me avoid getting "burned out" on a particular subject line. Your club actually builds models? What a novel concept! I am one of the most prolific members in mine, and I only get one built every 4-6 months. I have yet to see any from some members who have been in it for 8-10 years. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:35:36 EST From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: P.S. to Fokker DVII one more time Message-ID: <0.990b5119.25641738@aol.com> In a message dated 11/16/99 9:24:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, peter_leonard@hotmail.com writes: << If the model is destined to remain on your display shelf, then all that really matters is that YOU like it >> Hey, I do follow that idea. My models are mine and not intended for competition. I really don't worry about if blue is too blue or to light, or if a certain detail is not exactly right. However, I do like colors to be as close to real as possible, but not necessarily exact. With these decals I have seen lots that just don't look right so have been asking for opinions to get me in the right ball park. I don't want to be off 100%. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:20:29 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Alberto Casirati's Models Message-ID: <199911171520.KAA18837@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi everyone, Just an update, for those of you who were impressed with Alberto's Re8 - check out his page now. He sent me more photos and let me say the close-ups are even more impressive than the first image. Also there are 2 new photos of Steve Hustad's latest effort - also very nice. -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:31:38 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Alberto Casirati's Models Message-ID: <024201bf3110$d7325120$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> That's it! I'll leave everything. I'll enrroll myself to the Foreign Legion. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 12:22 PM Subject: Alberto Casirati's Models > Hi everyone, > > Just an update, for those of you who were impressed with Alberto's > Re8 - check out his page now. He sent me more photos and let me say the > close-ups are even more impressive than the first image. > > Also there are 2 new photos of Steve Hustad's latest effort - also > very nice. > > -Allan > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ > University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > ============================================================================ === > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:44:37 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Alberto Casirati's Models Message-ID: <199911171538.JAA27155@itd.sterling.com> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:22:21 -0500 (EST), Allan Wright wrote: > Just an update, for those of you who were impressed with Alberto's > Re8 - check out his page now. He sent me more photos and let me say the > close-ups are even more impressive than the first image. Man, that Nie28 is AWESOME!! Great modeler's think alike... ;-) > Also there are 2 new photos of Steve Hustad's latest effort - also > very nice. Everyone should look at this. Even though his Goering effort was well done, I like the Von Hantleman machine better. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:15:10 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport 17 Message-ID: <000001bf3126$5869a4e0$86847ed4@default> Ben wrote > Well, I finished this model and it looks quite good. I handbrushed the >entire model leaving my airbrush to rest. I am so pleased I will probably >hand brush all the rest of my WW! models. It seems to give them a more >realistic character, a little bit crusty as they probably were. I will >stick with the airbrush for those WW 2 jobs. Man after my own heart! I have long felt that an airbrush was an un-necessary luxury when building WW1 models, it has always seemed to me to give a "flat" finish rather than a "lifelike". Granted it may be useful for the giant scaled jobs, if anyone ever builds these, but for the proper scale why spend mega shekels when you can get better looking results with less expense? Regards Len. (now ducking below the parapet) lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1975 **********************