WWI Digest 1969 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Austrian Taubes by "PETER LEONARD" 2) Re: WWI Pic by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: Austrian Taubes by Ernest Thomas 4) Re: Austrian Taubes by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Web Site Update by "richard eaton" 6) Re: Web Site Update by smperry@mindspring.com 7) New Squadron Flier by "Courtney Allen" 8) Re: Web Site Update by Michael Kendix 9) Re: Web Site Update by Zulis@aol.com 10) ot Tamiya biplane by Shane Weier 11) Re: Web Site Update by Ernest Thomas 12) RE: Cutting brass, was Re: light table by Shane Weier 13) RE: Decals by Shane Weier 14) Re: Web Site Update by "richard eaton" 15) Sopwith Salamander Kingpost details by "Ray Boorman" 16) Re: Austrian Taubes by Fernando Lamas 17) Re: Sopwith Salamander Kingpost details by "Bob Pearson" 18) Re: ot Tamiya biplane by Ernest Thomas 19) plethora of ecstasy wasRe: Hanriot HD.3 by KarrArt@aol.com 20) Re: Decals by "Michael S. Alvarado" 21) Re: Fok D.VI by "Michael S. Alvarado" 22) Re: NASM Fokker D.VII by "D Charles" 23) Re: OT or ot by "D Charles" 24) Re: Austrian Taubes by "PETER LEONARD" 25) Re: Fok D.VI by smperry@mindspring.com 26) Re: Fok D.VI by Ernest Thomas 27) Site Update by "Leonard Endy" 28) Re: Web Site Update by "Len Smith" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:34:31 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Austrian Taubes Message-ID: <19991113223431.69777.qmail@hotmail.com> One of the little nuggets I picked up at the UK Nats was a 1973 Cross & Cockade Journal with some nice pics of A-H Taubes covered in red and white stripes. On closer inspection they also seem to have a four cylender engine. Anybody know what it is? Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 16:47:15 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI Pic Message-ID: <382DEA72.529318C1@bellsouth.net> PETER LEONARD wrote: > What's more they're CARD models!! See http://www.teuton.org/~saulj > Just as I suspected. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 16:50:08 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Austrian Taubes Message-ID: <382DEB1F.6A2C1256@bellsouth.net> PETER LEONARD wrote: > One of the little nuggets I picked up at the UK Nats was a 1973 Cross & > Cockade Journal with some nice pics of A-H Taubes covered in red and white > stripes. Yeah, I saw some of those in Dave 'I wish I had a Taube book' Burke's A-H aircraft book. Something tells me I need to go buy some more Tauben. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:00:57 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Austrian Taubes Message-ID: <006601bf2e2b$68653d80$2482aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Maybe i'll just break into your house and steal yours - keep waving it in my face! And to think that I was NICE enough to bring that stuff down to show you. Sometimes I wonder why I try... DB -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Austrian Taubes > > >PETER LEONARD wrote: > >> One of the little nuggets I picked up at the UK Nats was a 1973 Cross & >> Cockade Journal with some nice pics of A-H Taubes covered in red and white >> stripes. > >Yeah, I saw some of those in Dave 'I wish I had a Taube book' Burke's A-H >aircraft book. Something tells me I need to go buy some more Tauben. >E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:45:51 -0600 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Web Site Update Message-ID: <199911140246.UAA12520@sierra.onr.com> Well it seems like a slow night on the old list so I thought I would announce that I have arisen off my posterior and updated my site. This update specialized in float planes: Sierra Scale Gotha WD.7 Phoenix Port Victoria PV.2.bi Joystick Rumpler 4B12 Toko Hansa-Brandenburg W29 As a special treat to Mr. Bittner I also have corrected and reshot my Pegasus Brequet IVX. Surf by if you have a moment and let me know what you think. http://www.onr.com/user/eatons/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:09:55 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Web Site Update Message-ID: <001001bf2e4d$bae9b0a0$f60156d1@default> Great stuff Richard! Sure brightened up a dull evening. Thanks for sharing it. I just love the Gotha. sp >Well it seems like a slow night on the old list so I thought >I would announce that I have arisen off my posterior and updated my site. >This update specialized in float planes: > >Sierra Scale Gotha WD.7 >Phoenix Port Victoria PV.2.bi >Joystick Rumpler 4B12 >Toko Hansa-Brandenburg W29 > >As a special treat to Mr. Bittner I also have corrected and reshot my >Pegasus Brequet IVX. > >Surf by if you have a moment and let me know what you think. > >http://www.onr.com/user/eatons/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 19:02:19 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: New Squadron Flier Message-ID: <002101bf2e4c$ab517de0$7604480c@courtney> Just received the November flier from Squadron Mail Order. They have the following Flying Machine Press publications on sale. http://www.squadron.com Imperial Russian Air Services $39.99 ($70.98) High in the Empty Blue $24.99 ($49.98) French Aircraft of the First World War $44.99 ($89.98) Austro-Hungarian Army Aircraft of World War I $44.99 ($84.98) They also have the new Blue Max Alb. in stock for $32.98. Just thought I would let you all know if you didn't already. Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:37:32 EST From: Michael Kendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Site Update Message-ID: <19991113.232852.4455.0.mkendix@juno.com> Richard: What scale is the P.V.2 bis? I don't have web picture access at home - can't wait to go to work Monday morning to 'ave a "Butchers". Michael On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 21:47:05 -0500 (EST) "richard eaton" writes: >Well it seems like a slow night on the old list so I thought >I would announce that I have arisen off my posterior and updated my >site. >This update specialized in float planes: > >Sierra Scale Gotha WD.7 >Phoenix Port Victoria PV.2.bi >Joystick Rumpler 4B12 >Toko Hansa-Brandenburg W29 > >As a special treat to Mr. Bittner I also have corrected and reshot my >Pegasus Brequet IVX. > >Surf by if you have a moment and let me know what you think. > >http://www.onr.com/user/eatons/ > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:49:49 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Site Update Message-ID: <0.adb255a5.255f8b5d@aol.com> Richard rescues us from a very sloooow Saturday night by writing: << Well it seems like a slow night on the old list so I thought I would announce that I have arisen off my posterior and updated my site. This update specialized in float planes: Sierra Scale Gotha WD.7 Phoenix Port Victoria PV.2.bi Joystick Rumpler 4B12 Toko Hansa-Brandenburg W29 As a special treat to Mr. Bittner I also have corrected and reshot my Pegasus Brequet IVX. Surf by if you have a moment and let me know what you think. >> Great stuff, Richard! There is something special about floatplanes - perhaps their solid, chunky. Until now, I didnt realize what an interesting airplane the Gotha WD7 is. I noticed you are using DURAS .... so, as you have been hanging out with "the machine"... I presume these beauties took you a total of a week? :-) Thanks, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:10:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: ot Tamiya biplane Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD19B7@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Hi all, I've now fondled the new ot Tamiya biplane. It's magnificent. On your knees everyone. Face Mecca, the Wailing Wall, Bethlehem, Buddha, the bar at the local or whatever you worship - and pray that Tamiya sell enough of them to inspire a few more betweenies and (oh joy) some OT subjects in this quality. For those who've listened to the moans on price - it's A$65, which is about US$41 and looking at the amount of sprue and sheer quality I'd say worth every cent. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:11:58 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Site Update Message-ID: <382E368D.36523EC1@bellsouth.net> richard eaton wrote: > Surf by if you have a moment and let me know what you think. I surfed, I saw, I enjoyed. Thanks for sharing it. Too bad it's all in the wrong scale. ;p E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:14:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Cutting brass, was Re: light table Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD19B8@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Matt, > Unfortunately they won't work on stainless steel, so the > latest round of > Eduard p/e you'll still have to use a different method. When did Eduard take to using stainless steel? I've never seen any, just traditional brass and nickel plated brass. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:20:54 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Decals Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD19BA@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Brent > What is in these products anyway? Alcohol in Set , acetic acid in Sol. >I'd swear Micro-Sol is > white vinegar. Close enough. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:31:07 -0600 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: Web Site Update Message-ID: <199911140430.WAA23388@sierra.onr.com> The honorable Dave Zulis writes: > Great stuff, Richard! There is something special about floatplanes - > perhaps their solid, chunky. Until now, I didnt realize what an > interesting airplane the Gotha WD7 is. I noticed you are using DURAS ... > so, as you have been hanging out with "the machine"... I presume these > beauties took you a total of a week? :-) > > Thanks, > > Dave Z Well thanks Dave! It must be a slow news night with all these other scalers looking at my tiny models ;-) I'm afraid that the building habits of "le machine" and I are so close that I feel him in my head sometimes. Sounds strange but Dennis could corroborate. BTW I would like to congratulate The Ugulanos on an anniversary this weekend! Regards, Richard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:42:34 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Sopwith Salamander Kingpost details Message-ID: <00e601bf2e5a$abda2d80$ab1235d1@ismbc.com> I am sure this question has been answered in the past, but was the Sopwith Salamander's Rudder post open as with most other Sopwith Aircraft. I am halfway through building Toko's model and have only two photo's of a Salamander none of which show that part of the aircraft. I was going to assume the kingpost/rudder-post was open, but this was a ground attack aircraft therefore it may well have had the area covered to provide some protection to the rudder mounting. Ray Boorman (Female Comebacks Man: Haven't I seen you someplace before? Woman: Yes, that's why I don't go there anymore. Man: Is this seat empty? Woman: Yes, and this one will be if you sit down. Man: Your place or mine? Woman: Both. You go to yours, and I'll go to mine.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:52:24 -0800 From: Fernando Lamas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Austrian Taubes Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991113205224.007e6330@olympus.net> At 05:35 PM 11/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >One of the little nuggets I picked up at the UK Nats was a 1973 Cross & >Cockade Journal with some nice pics of A-H Taubes covered in red and white >stripes. On closer inspection they also seem to have a four cylender engine. >Anybody know what it is? > >Peter The engines would be the four cylinder, 85 HP Hiero engines. The Etrich Taubes of the manufacturer's "G" series were produced at the Flieger Arsenal at Fischamend, just outside Vienna, and were exclusively powered by these engines. Etrich Taubes of series "A" through "F" built by Lohner were powered by either Austro-Daimler engines or by the four cylynder Hiero engines. The manufacturer's designation system differed from the Austrian military's system. In the military system, the Etrich Taubes of series "A" through "C" were designated "A.I" and those of series "D" through "G" were designated A.II. A-H wartime aircraft serial numbers included a manufacturer's prefix. For Flieger Arsenal-built aircraft, the prefixes were "71" for A.I aircraft and "72" or "Fd" for A.II aircraft. For Lohner-built aircraft, the prefix was "Lo". Of the Tauben pictured in C&C, Autumn, 1973, four have "Fd" prefixes and one has a "72" prefix. All were therefore manufactured at the Flieger Arsenal, Fischamend. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:55:20 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Salamander Kingpost details Message-ID: <199911140458.UAA05611@mail.rapidnet.net> Ray, Photos in the British markings fabric special show it to have a closed rear fuselage. Pedro Soares did a build of the Salamander in the recent http://www.internetmodeler.com Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- >From: "Ray Boorman" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Sopwith Salamander Kingpost details >Date: Sat, Nov 13, 1999, 8:46 PM > > I am sure this question has been answered in the past, but was the Sopwith > Salamander's Rudder post open as with most other Sopwith Aircraft. > > I am halfway through building Toko's model and have only two photo's of a > Salamander none of which show that part of the aircraft. I was going to > assume the kingpost/rudder-post was open, but this was a ground attack > aircraft therefore it may well have had the area covered to provide some > protection to the rudder mounting. > > Ray Boorman > > (Female Comebacks > Man: Haven't I seen you someplace before? > Woman: Yes, that's why I don't go there anymore. > > Man: Is this seat empty? > Woman: Yes, and this one will be if you sit down. > > Man: Your place or mine? > Woman: Both. You go to yours, and I'll go to mine.) > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:55:38 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ot Tamiya biplane Message-ID: <382E5CE8.9208FA23@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > Hi all, > > I've now fondled the new ot Tamiya biplane. Silence, foul temptress! For he who would lead us astray from the true path of righteousness shall BURN in the fires of HELL for all eternity. Listen not, my children, to the BEAST who would dare temp us from the glory that is cloaked in lozenge and PC10. For he is the fallen one. REBUKE him in the name of our father, Lord Sopwith. Ok, enough of all that. Tell us more. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 02:00:24 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: plethora of ecstasy wasRe: Hanriot HD.3 Message-ID: <0.32de335f.255fb808@aol.com> In a message dated 11/13/99 12:38:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, peter_leonard@hotmail.com writes: << "Fighters WWI vol V" by Jack Bruce (do you think he'll ever get back with Ginger and Eric Clapton for one last tour?) > It'll happen anyday now- how long can those writer's royalties from "Pressed Rat and Warthog" keep Ginger goin'? Anyway- due to my slovenly nature, I didn't re-up for OtF till recently, and today THREE 1999 issues arrived! I'm screeching in primal ecstasy! TOO much good stuff- oh- and some not-so-bad Albatros profiles by....uh.....uh....some Canadian guy. So far, I've just given each a lingering yet quick whip through. AND....no bills in the mail today....sometimes one doesn't have to fear the postman. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:01:10 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Decals Message-ID: <382E6C46.F6B4AAD3@bellatlantic.net> Ben; First make sure the spot on which the decal is to be placed in glossy and free of dirt an oil. While the decal is soaking in water or laying on a damp cloth after soaking waiting for the image to release from the backing paper, place a blob of Micro Set over the the spot on which the decal is to be placed. make sure the blob is large enough to cover the area covered by the decal and a little more. This "wets" the surface and helps to eliminate "silvering" by excluding air from the area. You may hve to keep applying the Micro Set as it has a tendency to bead up on a smooth, glossy surface. Slide the decal off the backing paper onto the pre-wetted site. Make sure the decal is immersed in the Micro Set solution as you slide it on. Using a soft brush or cotton swab, gently prod the image into the proper position and using a soft rag press it into place at the center of the image. Working from the center outward, work out any trapped air bubbles from under the decal. Blot off any excess Micro Set. Using a cotton swab or soft brush, "paint" on additional Micro Set over the image and allow the decal to dry. If the decal wrinkles up leave it alone; it will smooth out as it dries. Any air bubbles under the image or "silvering" of the clear film around the image can be eliminated by gently pricking the bubble of area of silvering with the point of a pin or an X-Acto knife and reapplying more Micro Set. If the decal will set down onto the surface after this treatment, its time for the Micro Sol. Using a soft brush, "paint" Micro Sol over the image and allow it to disolve the decal film and make the image lay down on the surface. Again as the image wrinkles leave it alone. At this point the decals are extremely fragile and any handling will only destroy them. Once the decal has dried and smoothed out, remove trapped bubles and silvering as before. Alvie BEN8800@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/99 12:53:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, > sm5192@bellatlantic.net writes: > > << Micro Setis supposed to work as a "wetting" solution it willhelp the decal > snuggle down to the surface without "silvering". It also is a surface tension > releiver allowing decals to settle around mild compound curves such a wing > airfoil surfaces. It does dissolve the decal film but is not as strong as > the > Micro Sol which is a decal film solvent (although the mildest of those > available. This stuff is designed to dissolve away the lacquer decal carrier > film leaving just the printed media on the model surface giving that "painted > on" look. You use this stuff to get a decal to settle down around a a > particularly nasty compound curve such as a wing tip or gun blister. Anyway > follow the directions and when the decal gets all wrinkly do not repeat do > not touch it. As the decal dries it will smooth out. > > HTH >> > > I am still a little confused by this explanation. Both still sound like they > do almost the same thing. In general how do I proceed? Put Micro Sol on the > model first before the decal, then Micro set over the decal? Or should I put > both Set and Sol on top? Can you better explain? > > Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:22:45 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fok D.VI Message-ID: <382E7155.93AD90DB@bellatlantic.net> As far as the drawings I have on the Fok. D.VI the kit is fairly accurate in outline.. The rudder and stabilizer are way to thick and should be sanded down to about half original thickness. The upper aind lower wing halves reqiire a lot of sanding to get a smooth, gapless fit at the leading and trailing edges (you may want to discard the lower wing halves and use sheet styrene instead). On mine I found the cabane struts were too short, replace with wire or plastic rod. I really do wish the lower wings were made one piece or one piece upper and lower the two two piece but joined lower wing halves made assembly a bit of a pain, especially when the cabane struts were the wrong size. The most glaring error I found on the kit is that the under surface of the fuselage in planform at the flare to the cowling is not symmetrical. This caused problems with wing alignment. The next one I do I will check the fuselage carefully before painting and decaling (over all lozenge). I will also cut a notch in the bottom of the fuselage halves for a lower wing box spar carry through like the prototype and fabricate a new single lower wing bottom piece incorporating the box spar so that I get a solid lower wing join. I can then assemble the interplane struts to theblower wings, the upper wings to the interplane struts and have a more or less rigid wing cellule with which to size cabane struts. Hindsight is always 20/20. Anyway it a pretty little airplane. By the way, if you do Siebert's Jasta 80b aircraft, the fuselage band should be black with white edging not turquoise. HTH Alvie Ernest Thomas wrote: > smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > > > Can anyone speak on the accuracy of an Eduard Fokker D.VI built straight out > > of the box? > > Haven't built mine yet, but I've seen one built. It looked like a D-VI to me. > E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:10:05 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: NASM Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <000601bf2e7b$2535c840$dcb93ecb@Charls> Or, to put it another way, drag can be reduced by increasing the aspect ratio of the mainplanes whilst maintaining area! :-) David >Tripes are, by aeronautical law, terrible at speed. The reason that you add >the third wing iss to add more lift - in other words, you want tighter turns >and greater climb. In aeronautics, you can have one or the other. Not >both. The Fokker Dr.1 was slower than most contemporary fighters. This is >undoubtedly true. But it could outclimb and out-turn its peers with little >trouble. That's why the Dr.1 got such a reputation. Maneuverability is a >sacrifice of speed and vice versa. Physics dictates it to be so. > > >DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:14:49 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: OT or ot Message-ID: <000701bf2e7b$2663e800$dcb93ecb@Charls> Having just studied the "Fresh Cream" album cover this is obviously OT :-) David >Matt , it's covered in Mcdonalds "Fighters WWI vol V" by Jack Bruce (do you >think he'll ever get back with Ginger and Eric Clapton for one last tour?) > >Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:22:30 PST From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Austrian Taubes Message-ID: <19991114092230.10048.qmail@hotmail.com> Fernando, you are a treasure :) Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:37:31 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Fok D.VI Message-ID: <004601bf2ea5$686208c0$420356d1@default> Thanks Alvie! I printed this one and tucked it in the kit box. I see hours of aggrivation avoided :-) thanks again sp -----Original Message----- From: Michael S. Alvarado To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, November 14, 1999 3:32 AM Subject: Re: Fok D.VI >As far as the drawings I have on the Fok. D.VI the kit is fairly accurate in >outline.. The rudder and stabilizer are way to thick and should be sanded down to >about half original thickness. The upper aind lower wing halves reqiire a lot of >sanding to get a smooth, gapless fit at the leading and trailing edges (you may >want to discard the lower wing halves and use sheet styrene instead). On mine I >found the cabane struts were too short, replace with wire or plastic rod. I >really do wish the lower wings were made one piece or one piece upper and lower >the two two piece but joined lower wing halves made assembly a bit of a pain, >especially when the cabane struts were the wrong size. The most glaring error I >found on the kit is that the under surface of the fuselage in planform at the >flare to the cowling is not symmetrical. This caused problems with wing >alignment. The next one I do I will check the fuselage carefully before painting >and decaling (over all lozenge). I will also cut a notch in the bottom of the >fuselage halves for a lower wing box spar carry through like the prototype and >fabricate a new single lower wing bottom piece incorporating the box spar so that >I get a solid lower wing join. I can then assemble the interplane struts to >theblower wings, the upper wings to the interplane struts and have a more or less >rigid wing cellule with which to size cabane struts. Hindsight is always 20/20. >Anyway it a pretty little airplane. By the way, if you do Siebert's Jasta 80b >aircraft, the fuselage band should be black with white edging not turquoise. > >HTH > >Alvie > >Ernest Thomas wrote: > >> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: >> >> > Can anyone speak on the accuracy of an Eduard Fokker D.VI built straight out >> > of the box? >> >> Haven't built mine yet, but I've seen one built. It looked like a D-VI to me. >> E. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:22:13 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fok D.VI Message-ID: <382EC594.11236BE@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > Thanks Alvie! > > I printed this one and tucked it in the kit box. I see hours of aggrivation > avoided :-) Me too. Thanks Alv. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:19:25 -0500 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Site Update Message-ID: Wow Richard ! The Gotha WD.7 looks fantastic, as do the rest of the new pics. It's easy to see how floatplanes could become an addiction. Keep up the great work. Len (Trying to finish-off the interior detail of the FT 17.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:14:00 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Web Site Update Message-ID: <004401bf2ec0$3ab1e9c0$79867ed4@lensmith> Richard, I had more than a moment, so I surfed and enjoyed. Love that PV2bis, looks gorgeous in PC10. Great to see some of the older vacforms so well done, congratulations. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: richard eaton To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 2:47 AM Subject: Web Site Update > Well it seems like a slow night on the old list so I thought > I would announce that I have arisen off my posterior and updated my site. > This update specialized in float planes: > > Sierra Scale Gotha WD.7 > Phoenix Port Victoria PV.2.bi > Joystick Rumpler 4B12 > Toko Hansa-Brandenburg W29 > > As a special treat to Mr. Bittner I also have corrected and reshot my > Pegasus Brequet IVX. > > Surf by if you have a moment and let me know what you think. > > http://www.onr.com/user/eatons/ > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1969 **********************