WWI Digest 1961 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Use of Future by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: Bare-Metal by Brad Gossen 3) Fokker D.VII Site by "Bob Pearson" 4) OT Kubrick by "dfernet0" 5) WWI rubber tire color by smperry@mindspring.com 6) Re: Hanriot by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 7) Re: Toko Aviatik Berg D1 by Allan Wright 8) RE: Toko Aviatik Berg D1 by "Harris, Mack" 9) Re: Bare-Metal by BEN8800@aol.com 10) Re: OT Kubrick by Albatrosdv@aol.com 11) Re: Use of Future by BEN8800@aol.com 12) RE: Champlin and Planes of Fame Pictures by "dfernet0" 13) RE: OT Kubrick by "dfernet0" 14) Re: OT Kubrick by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Re: OT Kubrick by Albatrosdv@aol.com 16) Off Topic Posts by Allan Wright 17) WWI movies by Dave Watts 18) Re: WWI movies by CTJDavies@aol.com 19) Re: WWI movies by Albatrosdv@aol.com 20) RE: OT Kubrick by Shane Weier 21) FW: Future articles and the seminar by "Bob Pearson" 22) Re: I THINK I'm back on line... by "Steven Schofield" 23) Re: OT Kubrick by Allred240Z@aol.com 24) Re: Rigging by "Jim Landon" 25) Re: turnbuckles by "Jim Landon" 26) Blue Max service and new kits by "Chris Cato" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 20:26:00 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Use of Future Message-ID: <382634B7.B48DA31A@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > Har har. > > Your football team lost again. Like I care. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 22:34:34 -0500 From: Brad Gossen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bare-Metal Message-ID: <382644CA.53AF@globalserve.net> Thanks Peter and David. The stuff I got is 'Matte Aluminum'. I guess I'll stick to flat panels for now and I'll give that different grades of cloth thing a whirl. I might start on an F2B where the curves aren't too complex. 1/48 B-29? Woowee! Gives me the willies just thinking about it! Brad DAVID BURKE wrote: > > Ahh, welcome to what can be the seventh circle of Hell for the modeler. I > have used BMF, and the Detail Master equivalent, Krome Foil, extensively. > It can be really good for doing bare metal panels, and as there is a matte > foil too, you can get some interesting varigations. Also, I use different > grades of polishing cloth on different sheets of it to get subtly-varies > effects between shades of metal. I do not recomend it for cowlings, because > you will inevitably get wrinkles in it going around the complex curves of > the front of the cowling. But play around with it. I tried the > overly-ambitious project of covering an entire 1/48 B-29 Superfortress. I'm > taking it all off and replacing it with paint. Much easier to deal with. > > DB > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Gossen > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 5:30 PM > Subject: Bare-Metal > > >I picked up a sheet of sticky-backed metal foil called Bare-Metal on > >a sale table. It's manufactured, appropriately, by the Bare Metal Foil > >Co. of Farmington, Michigan. Does anyone have any experience of this > >stuff? How would you go about using it on, say, a Camel cowl? The > >instructions aren't terribly specific. TIA > > > >Brad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 23:19:34 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Fokker D.VII Site Message-ID: <199911080729.XAA29745@mail.rapidnet.net> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3024861575_2100020_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Greetings all, A fellow on RMS has announced the following --------- I am making a site to dedicate to fokker DVII. If I am going make siucess, I need help from other enthusiast I need input. I also need some help from a guy/ girl to make my english better since mine is awful. The adress is http://www.go.to/fokkerDVII Please help me. Morten --MS_Mac_OE_3024861575_2100020_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Fokker D.VII Site Greetings all,

A fellow on RMS has announced the following

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I am making a site to dedicate to fokker DVII. If I am going make siucess, = I
need help from other enthusiast I need input.

I also need some help from a guy/ girl to make my english better since mine=
is awful.

The adress is http://www.go.to/fokkerDVII


Please help me.

Morten
--MS_Mac_OE_3024861575_2100020_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:18:48 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: OT Kubrick Message-ID: <006801bf29d2$a59464e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dave Agh! Now I got it! That's why Eyes Wide Shut! I frankly wasn't too impressed by that movie (altough I liked the nudie scenes). You forgot to mention the OT movie of good old Stan. In spanish, it was called "La patrulla Infernal" I don't know how it was the title originally. Kirk Douglas played a french officer who opposed to a suicidal attack ordered by the high brass or something like that. I saw it on TV when I was a kid, then the military who ruled my country many years prohibited all the pacifist stuff. D. PS: It's hopeless, there's no way that a Swedish picture get to our Argentinian screens. Darn! PS 2: To the list of best movies of '99 I'd add "Sixth Sense", less FX, more thrill. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Watts To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 4:11 AM Subject: Re: completely and totally ot but read it anyway > To get back on topic, (and be able to chat about movies), > > My friend Mikael Carlson in Sweden just completed shooting on a movie > involving Göring. He flew a large R/C model for some scenes, and used his > freshly finished D.VII for static shots, (he has yet to get the Mercedes > motor running). He said that the movie will hit the screens a year from > now. I'll ask him for the title. Don't tell the tax folks, but I believe > he made out very well on the deal. He also said that the Discovery Channel > will soon be releasing a film they shot of him flying his original Bleriot > over the English channel earlier this year. > > > Now to my movie picks; > > I have to say the movies I would recommend so far this year are; > > The Matrix - One of the better Sci-Fi movies in a long time with cutting > edge computer generated images, special effects, and stunt work. Oscar > time for this one for something, although Star Wars Episode 1 will most > likely get special effects. > > Fight Club - Not everyone's cup of tea, physically violent, but you'll be > taken by the surprise ending. Look for Edward Norton to get an Academy > Award nomination for this one. > > Eyes Wide Shut - I'm a huge Kubrick fan, and looked forward to this much > anticipated posthumously released work. With all of the hype of graphic > sex, I didn't know what to expect. And with Kubrick you expect to receive > some "damage". Take for example, the barracks suicide scene from Full > Metal Jacket, the scene of "Dave" going through the 4th dimension in 2001, > Jack Nicholson in The Shining, Christopher Walken in the roulette scene > from The Deer Hunter, etc. So going into Eyes Wide Shut, I was bracing > myself, but, at the end of the movie, I was sitting there, thinking, > "Where's the damage?", and Tom Cruise's character was so mentally destroyed > that I couldn't understand why. Well, I read on a movie review web site > that there was a scene of necrophilia involving Tom Cruise's character with > the woman who saved him at a discreetly costumed sex party at a mansion > that he crashed. With Kubrick being deceased, the studio reshot some > scenes, like the necrophilia scene from the morgue, and strategically > placed hooded CGI figures at the mansion to block sex acts. The "necro" > scene makes so much more sense in context to how Cruise's character reacted > at the end of the movie. It also explains the title, and where's the > "damage". > > Best, > Dave Watts > > At 01:03 AM 11/6/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Folks: > > > >With apologies that this is supposed to be about WW1 modeling... > > > >I do not normally go on about a movie. I work there, I know the secrets, I > >can find the shill in the audience feeding the mind reader the questions, > and > >I am *always* disappointed when the magician pulls out an ugly old smelly > >Norway rat instead of the rabbit that's supposed to be there in the hat (and > >I am even *more* disappointed when a rabbit pops out when it *should* be the > >Norway rat) > > > >However... > > > >Just went to see "The Insider." It's definitely worth the half price > >admission for the twilight show (I wouldn't pay full price if *I* wrote the > >bloody thing!). Aussies take delight: Russell Crowe is totally amazing. > He > >blew me away when I saw "Romper Stomper" and he was definitely the best > thing > >about a movie full of best things, "L.A. Confidential," but he really does > it > >here. Doesn't even look like himself. I would now go see a movie of him > >reading the Sydney yellow pages. > > > >Everybody else is pretty darn good, too. The script doesn't suck, the > >director isn't staring out his glass eyeball, the actors didn't trip on the > >furniture, all in all it was a pleasure to go watch the magician get the act > >*right.* > > > >It *was* a drag, however, to realize that the story is a very accurate take > >on "truth, justice and the American way" in the 1990s, however. > > > >I don't know if most of you waste your time with movies or not, I haven't > >seen anything this year since "A Simple Plan" (also highly recommended) > other > >than "Star Bores - Part One", so I hope you go see this. Just might even be > >an Oscar contender. > > > >Tom C > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 06:23:35 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: WWI rubber tire color Message-ID: <001401bf29db$b2df0480$190356d1@default> I have mixed several bottles of tan/gray/pinkish paint for WWI tires only to have them dry out between infrequent uses. Here is an alternative. Take a piece of paper or card and mark a solid patch of brown watercolor pencil, (about 1/4" x 1") and immediately next to it a similar patch of black. Scribble some red over the top of both patches. Now a drop or two of Future and a dollop of Unbleached Titanium, (CDL colored artisit's acrylic paint). Swirl the paint & Future around on the card and you'll get enough perfect tire color for the job at hand in as little time as it would take to wrest the top off a dried up bottle of paint with a pair of pliers. This paint proved flexible enough to paint on o-ring tires before mounting them on the wheels. fwiw sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 07:14:29 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hanriot Message-ID: >>Did the USN use any Hanriots for deck landing experiments? Peter<< I know they did flight trials using HD.2s (with wheels replacing floats) on battleship ramps, such as the USS Mississippi. The old Profile series HD.1 has a photo of such an example. I would *assume* that they were also used in conjunction with early aircraft carrier development also, but you never know. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko Aviatik Berg D1 Message-ID: <199911081339.IAA04959@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Thank, Allan! The diagrams sound good, how could you show them to me? I > have a web site, email and a fax machine. Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks again Send me your fax number, I;ll bring in what I have to work tomorrow and try faxing them to you. If that doesn't work well, I'll scan them in. -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:04:44 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Toko Aviatik Berg D1 Message-ID: My fax number is 405-728-8123. And many thanks again. Maybe I will post some pics to the WW1 website upon completion. Love this list. Mack -----Original Message----- From: Allan Wright [mailto:aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 7:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Toko Aviatik Berg D1 > Thank, Allan! The diagrams sound good, how could you show them to me? I > have a web site, email and a fax machine. Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks again Send me your fax number, I;ll bring in what I have to work tomorrow and try faxing them to you. If that doesn't work well, I'll scan them in. -Allan ============================================================================ === Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu ============================================================================ === ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:46:56 EST From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bare-Metal Message-ID: <0.308b03ee.25583c60@aol.com> In a message dated 11/7/99 6:31:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, bigglesrfc@globalserve.net writes: << picked up a sheet of sticky-backed metal foil called Bare-Metal on a sale table. It's manufactured, appropriately, by the Bare Metal Foil Co. of Farmington, Michigan. Does anyone have any experience of this stuff? How would you go about using it on, say, a Camel cowl? The instructions aren't terribly specific. TIA >> This stuff has been around for a long time. You can get it in several kinds of metal; copper, silver, etc. However, it is a stiff metal (won't stretch very well) so won't go around curves to my knowledge. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:09:08 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT Kubrick Message-ID: <0.cd520f7f.25584194@aol.com> In a message dated 99-11-08 05:24:02 EST, you write: << In spanish, it was called "La patrulla Infernal" I don't know how it was the title originally. Kirk Douglas played a french officer who opposed to a suicidal attack ordered by the high brass or something like that. >> "Paths of Glory," the story of how the French High Command of WW1, as completely incompetent as the British and the German, orders a suicidal attack that fails, and then decide to court-martial three of their own men - chosen at random - for cowardice and have them executed as examples. Kirk Douglas plays the combat officer chosen to defend them. The movie was banned in France for 30 years for its unflattering portrait of the French Army. I don't know how unflattering you can be about an army that hasn't won a war on its own for 400 years, that was capable of being beaten by the same secret weapon 100 years apart (Crecy and Agincourt), whose greatest hero was one of the greatest losers of history. Saw it earlier this year and it is still pretty powerful. Too bad Kubrick didn't stop with "Full Metal Jacket." "Eyes Wide Shut" is even lesser fare that "Barry Lyndon." Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:14:09 EST From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Use of Future Message-ID: <0.c871618d.255842c1@aol.com> In a message dated 11/7/99 6:37:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << > Future is just an acrylic floor wax. The pedant (me) strikes again. One thing it really is *not* is a wax. >> Yes. The new bottles I just purchased says on the lable "contains no wax". Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:13:13 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Champlin and Planes of Fame Pictures Message-ID: <007f01bf29fb$c6b14660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Cam Excellent pictures and reference material. Thanks! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: cameron rile To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 11:11 PM Subject: Champlin and Planes of Fame Pictures > Just put up the pics from my trip down into the deep dark US south. Pictures of the > aircraft at Champlin and Planes of Fame - Grand Canyon. > > http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/artattack/rhinebeck99.htm > > Most pics are around 100Kb, the occasional one is larger where the detail looks good. > > > > > cam > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:52:02 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: OT Kubrick Message-ID: <00b301bf2a01$331dfb40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Paths of Glory," the story of how the French High Command of WW1, as > completely incompetent as the British and the German, orders a suicidal > attack that fails, and then decide to court-martial three of their own men - > chosen at random - for cowardice and have them executed as examples. Kirk > Douglas plays the combat officer chosen to defend them. The movie was banned > in France for 30 years for its unflattering portrait of the French Army. > -snip- Got to see this movie again. thanks! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:48:07 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: OT Kubrick Message-ID: <003e01bf2a01$b7cd9260$e584aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Isn't that the film where only one could possibly be called a coward, one was knocked out by a shell, and another had something else happen to him? I have yet to see it, but I'll watch Kirk Douglas in just about anything.. DB -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 9:14 AM Subject: Re: OT Kubrick >In a message dated 99-11-08 05:24:02 EST, you write: > ><< In spanish, it was > called "La patrulla Infernal" I don't know how it was the title originally. > Kirk Douglas played a french officer who opposed to a suicidal attack > ordered by the high brass or something like that. >> > >"Paths of Glory," the story of how the French High Command of WW1, as >completely incompetent as the British and the German, orders a suicidal >attack that fails, and then decide to court-martial three of their own men - >chosen at random - for cowardice and have them executed as examples. Kirk >Douglas plays the combat officer chosen to defend them. The movie was banned >in France for 30 years for its unflattering portrait of the French Army. > >I don't know how unflattering you can be about an army that hasn't won a war >on its own for 400 years, that was capable of being beaten by the same secret >weapon 100 years apart (Crecy and Agincourt), whose greatest hero was one of >the greatest losers of history. > >Saw it earlier this year and it is still pretty powerful. Too bad Kubrick >didn't stop with "Full Metal Jacket." "Eyes Wide Shut" is even lesser fare >that "Barry Lyndon." > >Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:42:29 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT Kubrick Message-ID: <0.bdaefbc5.25586585@aol.com> In a message dated 99-11-08 11:02:32 EST, you write: << Isn't that the film where only one could possibly be called a coward, one was knocked out by a shell, and another had something else happen to him? I have yet to see it, but I'll watch Kirk Douglas in just about anything.. >> And the man who did a cowardly thing recovered himself and did his job. they were three grunts who had responded as grunts do. This is an excellent movie. As long as we're mentioning offbeat war movies that will stick in your mind after you see them, let me also highly, highly recommend "Attack!" written and directed by Robert Aldrich. Yes, it's ot (WW2). However, it is the first American war movie in which "the enemy" is a fellow American. Stars Eddie Albert, Jack Palance and Lee Marvin, all of whom were combat veterans, all of whom did the movie because, as Eddie Albert once told me, "this was the first war script that dealt with war as I had known it as a serving combat officer in Europe." All of whom considered it some of their best work - it was Eddie Albert's favorite and will show you a much different side of him than you remember from "Green Acres." It was done for a nickel and a dime, because of the political touchiness of the subject (at the height of McCarthyism) and it shows in the cardboard tanks, and other cheap sets, but the power of the story overcomes all that. It's a tale of an infantry company in a National Guard unit whose commander is a coward who cannot be removed since he is the son of the state governor. Turner Classics has re-released it and if you go to other than Blockwhacker for your movies you can find it. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:46:23 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Off Topic Posts Message-ID: <199911081746.MAA06355@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi everyone, Just a reminder, the list volume is cery high. Let's try to keep the off topic talk to a minimum and off-list if possible. Here's a good guideline, if you're thinking of replying to the list with a subject of OT - anything, change the address from the list to the original poster. Most of us love modeling of all periods, but THIS list is only for World War Content. Thanks! -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 13:12:50 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WWI movies Message-ID: <199911081814.NAA52277@ind.cioe.com> DB wrote; >Isn't that the film where only one could possibly be called a coward, one was knocked out by a shell, and another had something else happen to him? I have yet to see it, but I'll watch Kirk Douglas in just about anything.. Continuing on the WWI theme, another good remake or homage to the story you are talking about was a short story done, I believe, on "Tales From the Crypt". It was titled "Yellow". It starred Kirk Douglas as the "General", Lance Henriksen as the "Sarge", and the General's son was played by someone I can't recall, but the story was that the son was a coward, and the General father couldn't tolerate the thought, so he sent him out on a mission to reconnect the communication lines that had been shot away on the front lines. The son goes with the hardcore Lance Henriksen and one other guy. As they seperate, the "Sarge" gives the son a whistle to blow if he sees anything, and he moves forward to repair the lines. As the son is hunkered down, he sees the Sarge being approached by Germans, instead of blowing the whistle, and possibly exposing his position, he freezes, and sees the Sarge bayoneted. The other guy is killed as well, and the son returns to the H.Q. trench bunker. Since the lines have been restored, the father is proud that the son has proven he is not yellow. Then, Sarge comes stumbling in, explaining how the kid left them to die and was yellow, then drops his clutched helmet dumping out his intestines, and dies. The father has the son court martialed, and put before the firing squad. Alone with the father, the son begs for his life. The father explains that he could never kill him, and gives him some papers, and tells him that the guns will all contain blanks, and for him to faint death, and he will order the body to not be buried, but the son must act brave before the guns. The son is eternally grateful, and agrees. The twist ending is that the father doesn't handout blanks, and the son dies, with the father saying to the squad, I knew my son wasn't yellow. Dan Akroyd had a cameo role. Excellent! Anyone else catch this one? The trench scenes and Headquarters could be used as reference for modelling! Hey Allan, I got the modelling theme in there! Just saw what appears to be the definitive work on the Lewis gun by Easterly being offered by Zenith books. A bit pricey though. Best, Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:50:44 EST From: CTJDavies@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI movies Message-ID: <0.cd556445.25588394@aol.com> I'm not sure if it was Aces High, but the scene I loved was where a german baloon is being attacked and you can see the ground crew trying to pull it down while Archie around them is going crazy. That film also has a very intense scene at the front where Malcolm McDowell is looking for a german pilot he just shot down and the french refuses to hand him out. Plus, of course, the french bar where the main figure (can't remember who that was) ends up in bed with this french whore, who (pretends) doesn't know him the next day (anyone read Saggitarius Rising?) Surely one of the best WW1 avaition films. If only they'd used the SE5a and DVII replicas built for, was it, Brown vs Red Baron? Who's seen The Blue Max, is it just as good? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:08:46 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI movies Message-ID: <0.91633cb0.255887ce@aol.com> In a message dated 99-11-08 13:14:08 EST, you write: << hen, Sarge comes stumbling in, explaining how the kid left them to die and was yellow, then drops his clutched helmet dumping out his intestines, and dies. The father has the son court martialed, and put before the firing squad. Alone with the father, the son begs for his life. The father explains that he could never kill him, and gives him some papers, and tells him that the guns will all contain blanks, and for him to faint death, and he will order the body to not be buried, but the son must act brave before the guns. >> The son was played by Kirk Douglas' youngest son, Eric Douglas. The was the "kicker" that sold the tale to TFTC. Tom Cleaver Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:37:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: OT Kubrick Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD196B@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Diego > PS 2: To the list of best movies of '99 I'd add "Sixth > Sense", less FX, more thrill. ...and an excellent Aussie actress, but do you know her last internationally well known role? Shane (my *last* ot post, sorry folks) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:47:00 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: FW: Future articles and the seminar Message-ID: <199911082259.OAA21065@mail.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, Some of you have expressed concern over when the next OTF gathering is taking place ..... I just got the following from the horses mouth aka Jim Streckfuss Bob ----------------- The seminar matter, I can clear up now. You're right, it's in April. The 14/15th. I'm not sure where the May rumor got started, but I've been hearing it all over the place. Hopefully, the appearance of the registration form in the fall issue (now in the mail) should clear things up. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:02:38 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Re: I THINK I'm back on line... Message-ID: <000001bf2a3d$cd547860$3c8b93c3@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 12:04 AM Subject: Re: I THINK I'm back on line... > On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:21:20 -0500 (EST) "Steven Schofield" > writes: > > > Sorry to anyone who has been trying to access my WebPages recently. > > > > Very well done, Steve. I really like the layout of the new page better. > > However, I found one error. In you "what's next" page you forgot to list > the Nie.16 you're working on. ;-) BTW, whose markings are you going to > finish it in? Please LMK to see if you're going to perpetuate Toko's > mistakes... :-) > > > Matt Bittner Matt, as you are probably well aware by now, I will indeed perpetuate their mistakes and introduce new (and better) ones of my own.(Notice in particular the location of the holes drilled in the horizontal stabs for the control wires, I really should be more careful with that drill. Oh, and the over-long rear undercarriage legs - the prop' would have trimmed inches off the tyres:-) The 16c will be posted this coming weekend, having been unavoidably delayed by your Le Prieur installation information, kindly sent. If you insist on pointing out further errors, I will be forced to bury my head in a bucket of sand, and hum loudly until you stop, as I can no longer wait to start the 0-400 you sent me. Scho www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:08:15 EST From: Allred240Z@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT Kubrick Message-ID: <0.319187ad.2558b1df@aol.com> Paths of Glory, Grande Illusion and to a lesser extent, All Quiet...are my top 3 (anti)-war movies. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 15:08:39 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: <19991108230839.98860.qmail@hotmail.com> This 11-6-99 msg. caught my eye in the digest: "Ben writes: << On a 1/48 model, does anyone attempt to make or fake turnbuckles? Or is that just too much. Someone mentioned the use of Grandt Line turnbuckles but I could not find these in my Walthers model railroad catalog. I don't have a Grandt Line catalog.>>" THAT WAS ME. Jim Landon. I used Grandt Line turnbuckles on my 1:13 scale Tommy. They're obviously way too big for 1:48. I shouldn't have used them anyway because they do not resemble WWI biplane turnbuckles. You can see a picture and read about the Grandt Line turnbuckles on my web site at http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page53.html I agree with what Rick said: "Rick writes: I saw a display of Koster's kits at the IPMS Nats last year and all of his WW I stuff had turnbuckles. They were effectively done using white glue (I asked him!) and painted "brass". He said they were pretty easy to do. The brass may not be correct since I seem to remember them in a more steel color at Champlin's. It looked good anyway. -Rick-" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 15:15:22 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: turnbuckles Message-ID: <19991108231522.81110.qmail@hotmail.com> <> Dull brass maybe. See a closeup photo of real WWI turnbuckles at: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Landon/photos/index.html Jim Landon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:28:23 -0500 From: "Chris Cato" To: Subject: Blue Max service and new kits Message-ID: <006001bf2a40$f5085220$8d9242d1@cato> After recently receiving a Blue Max Camel and oooing and aahhing over the boxes contents I discovered that the crankcase for the Clerget engine was molded with 7 sides instead of the slightly more correct 9 sides. I knew this was something of a know problem and wrote questioningly to Chris Gannon about the part. I'm happy to report that approximately 2 weeks later I received a new much more accurate crankcase that is beautifully cast. So while there may be some quality control issues on these kits I can't fault him for customer service! Much to my excitement I also got a list of new releases: In 1/72: DH-4 DH-2 Spad XII ( Not a misprint! A real 12!) BE2e and varnished plywood decals in light and dark colors In 1/48: Sopwith Dolphin Sopwith Snipe Bristol M1C Phonix D-1 L.F.G. Roland D-VIb Supermarine F.14 Spiteful and more varnished plywood decals as well as various crosses. Some were previously announced on the list but I figured a reaffirmation never hurts. And even though I build 1/48 primarily a Spad 12 in any scale makes me grin... Attempting to be informative in southern new england, Chris Cato tcato@connix.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1961 **********************