WWI Digest 1923 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Grosser Kurfurst by "Sandy Adam" 2) TOKO Nieuport 16c by Dennis Ugulano 3) Mime Mess by "Bill Bacon" 4) kits by BEN8800@aol.com 5) Re: kits by "PETER LEONARD" 6) Re: kits by "Michael Kendix" 7) Re: kits by "DAVID BURKE" 8) Re: kits by BEN8800@aol.com 9) Re: kits by "Sandy Adam" 10) Re: Grosser Kurfurst anyone? by geoff-smith@cwcom.net 11) Re: Grosser Kurfurst anyone? by "Tom Werner Hansen" 12) Flashback 1/48 Taube by BStett3770@aol.com 13) Toko Berg advice by Matthew E Bittner 14) French web site update by Matthew E Bittner 15) a few observations made on the HB C.I project. by Ernest Thomas 16) Re: Toko Berg advice by smperry@mindspring.com 17) Seat Materials by "David Vosburgh" 18) Re: One more web update by Pedro e Francisca 19) Re: Toko Berg advice by Matthew E Bittner 20) SPAD 11 by Matthew E Bittner 21) Re: Seat Materials by BEN8800@aol.com 22) Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. by "DAVID BURKE" 23) Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. by smperry@mindspring.com 24) Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. by Ernest Thomas 25) Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. by Dennis Ugulano 26) Oh Crap! by Brent & Tina Theobald 27) Re: Oh Crap! by "PETER LEONARD" 28) Re: Oh Crap! by Ernest Thomas 29) Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. by Ernest Thomas 30) Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. by Ernest Thomas 31) H-B C.I by Matthew E Bittner 32) Re: H-B C.I by "PETER LEONARD" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:34:38 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Grosser Kurfurst Message-ID: <00d501bf1701$4b3f29a0$39e8b094@sandyada> > The nearest thing to a primary ref. is/are on view to the public. All >you need is a ticket to Orkney and Scuba gear. >No, I won't be passing with my camera, but if Sandy's nothing to do >one day..............He's much nearer. I've only ever Scuba'd in the Carribean - Scapa Flow is far, far, far too Coooooolllllddddd!!!!!!! BBRRRRRRRRR!!!! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:22:32 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: TOKO Nieuport 16c Message-ID: <199910150822_MC2-8921-28A0@compuserve.com> Everyone, The TOKO Nieuport 16c is nearing completion and I want to let you know about the struts. Are you ready for this? THEY FIT! All of them. No surgery. No bad words. Just enjoyable model building. I'm building the Russian version on skis and it is an enjoyable little kit. Should have it finished this week end. I'll try and get this and a DH-2 on line for you to look at soon. nu: Vacuform Martinsyde S.1 Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/12/99 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:59:09 -0500 From: "Bill Bacon" To: Subject: Mime Mess Message-ID: <003e01bf170d$12fc46c0$5a3532cf@tcac.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF16E3.297E6600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt et al, Part of the new set up. Bugs to be fixed. Can send text only but need = to make permanent fix. Try this for size. Re. Americal/ Gryphon, I = hate to dispute the fine people who make these decals but I must. The = research done on all escadrillr and jasta sets is amazing. Will open = another can of worms on USAS national markings in WWI. Busy right now = trying to find stuff my wife reorganized without asking first. Two = steps forward and one step back. Guess you wil accept attachments. = Scans late next week or earl the following week. Cheers, Bill B. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF16E3.297E6600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Matt et al,
 
Part of the new set up.  Bugs to = be=20 fixed.  Can send text only but need to make permanent fix.  = Try this=20 for size.  Re. Americal/ Gryphon, I hate to dispute the fine people = who=20 make these decals but I must.  The research done on all escadrillr = and=20 jasta sets is amazing.  Will open another can of worms on USAS = national=20 markings in WWI.  Busy right now trying to find stuff my wife = reorganized=20 without asking first.  Two steps forward and one step back.  = Guess you=20 wil accept attachments.  Scans late next week or earl the following = week.
 
Cheers,
 
Bill B.
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF16E3.297E6600-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:50:56 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: kits Message-ID: <0.f38961d9.25388b40@aol.com> Thanks to all. So far I have been able to find all the kits I wanted except for the 1:48 1-1/2 Strutter. Anyone know who has it in stock? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:21:11 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: kits Message-ID: <19991015142112.25453.qmail@hotmail.com> If it's the Copper State strutter you're looking for then go direct to http://www.amug.org/~copperst/ There is at least one vacform too, but I can't remember who did it. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:08:39 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: kits Message-ID: <19991015150840.93721.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: BEN8800@aol.com >Subject: kits >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:52:38 -0400 (EDT) > >Thanks to all. So far I have been able to find all the kits I wanted except >for the 1:48 1-1/2 Strutter. Anyone know who has it in stock? > Ben: Tom's Modelworks has a kit, and Sandy Adam has photographs of his magnificent build up of this model on Allan Wright's WWI Modeling site. Have you thought of trying 1/72nd scale? There are two kits from Eduard/Flashback and four kits from Toko. Building the Flashback single seat Strutter was my most relaxing building experience thus far. I haven't attempted the Toko ones yet. Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:51:51 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: kits Message-ID: <003a01bf1726$6acd51a0$7e88aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Which Strutter? If you want the CSM kit (a challenge, but I recommend it), look up Copper State Models at their website, or e-mail Eric Hight who is on this list - it's his show incidentally. BTW, the 1 1/2 Strutter is getting some finishing work done on it, and I am giving it a riffled, or bare aluminum nose. I looked at the pics in the Datafile, and it really looks less and less like heavily chipped paint than riffled metal to me. Give me a couple of more days. DB -----Original Message----- From: BEN8800@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 8:55 AM Subject: kits >Thanks to all. So far I have been able to find all the kits I wanted except >for the 1:48 1-1/2 Strutter. Anyone know who has it in stock? > >Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:22:19 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: kits Message-ID: <0.7b33853e.2538aebb@aol.com> In a message dated 10/15/99 11:10:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << Tom's Modelworks has a kit, and Sandy Adam has photographs of his magnificent build up of this model on Allan Wright's WWI Modeling site. >> I went to the Tom's website and they said all 1:48 kits but the Psalz I believe is out of production. Don't want 1: 72, too little for me. Thanks, ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:51:37 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: kits Message-ID: <013d01bf172d$1a6a3b40$39e8b094@sandyada> >>Thanks to all. So far I have been able to find all the kits I wanted except >>for the 1:48 1-1/2 Strutter. Anyone know who has it in stock? > >Tom's Modelworks has a kit, Michael, extremely kind of you for the words about my Strutter. Thank you. I've finished the Tabloid at last but haven't got any pics taken as yet. That just about completes my Sopwith Collection although there's a fourth Camel half-made, if I could just pluck up the courage for the Ruston 1,000th! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:59:28 +0100 From: geoff-smith@cwcom.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grosser Kurfurst anyone? Message-ID: <0f3452154160fa9SKYNET@cwcom.net> > > >> I have the Janes, ... > > There's a product called Immodium here that helps. > Sandy ROTFL hysterically. Regards, Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:46:42 +0100 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: Re: Grosser Kurfurst anyone? Message-ID: <199910152042.WAA05298@golf.dax.net> Shane I have a Salamander book called "Encyclopedia of the World's Warship" which has a two page spread on the "König" with data on the class + a side view of the "König" + a large scale upper and side view of the ship as at Jutland in 1916. If any interest, a scan can be provided. To whatever resolution you fell like clogging up bandwith with. Tom W ( who just the other day walked over to the war cemetery where a number of sailors from both sides, drowned at the battles of Dogger Bank and Jutland, lie buried. I'm happy to say that both sets of graves are nicely kept up. Still chilling to think that as many as 100 sailors were washed up on the shores here, so far from the scene of action.) ---------- > From: Shane Weier > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Grosser Kurfurst anyone? > Date: 14. oktober 1999 22:27 > > Brad says: > > > > German Warships of the World War One by John C. Taylor > > published by > > Doubleday, New York ( also Ian Allen) in 1970. No ISBN but > > the Library of > > Congress # is 75-111292. This has basic info ala Janes, but also has a > > really nice full length aerial shot of her, taken Nov. 21 > > 1918, on page > > #20. Sorry I don't have a scanner but if you're interested I could try > > enlarging a photocopy and snail-mail it. > > Not just yet, though I may ask later, thanks. First step looks like a visit > to the State Library which probably (has/has access to) these books. > > Incidentally, for those of you sitting about with jaws dropped to the floor, > I haven't stopped making aircraft, and both scratchbuild projects are still > on the bench - which must surely mean the kits will be available to you soon > :-( > > Shane > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:48:07 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Flashback 1/48 Taube Message-ID: <0.6196f703.2538ed07@aol.com> Hi Gang Flashback 1/48 Taube just hit the USA. I'll have em in stock on Tuesday. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:27:15 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Toko Berg advice Message-ID: <19991015.172716.-22095.0.mbittner@juno.com> Since I was (I put it away) working on the Toko Berg in conjunction with the PART photoetch, I thought I would pass along some tips. First of all, don't buy the PART set!! While I really like PART's set in general, the Berg set they fell flat. First of all there are plenty of parts you don't use due to it being p/e. They include all rigging on the fret. Then, if you decide not to use the spokes, there are four more parts wasted. Plus, there are all those "things" that are supposed to represent rigging attachment points. In 1/72nd, why? So, we're down plenty of parts, and we haven't even started modeling yet. Oh yea, the PART seat is inaccurate as well. Berg's used leather covered, metal seats; the PART set contains a wicker example, that's not the right shape (the Berg seat was extremely comfortable including *arm rests*). I dremeled out the molded in side structure so the PART cockpit would fit. With the side structure intact, the PART cockpit won't fit. However, here there is a catch 22: if you remove all of the side structure, the PART cockpit is too small!!! Then, when you want to fit the neat PART fold up cockpit, you'll have to start removing plastic to get the PART instrument panel to fit! Does it never end? Personally, when I build another, I will worry about fabricating the control column myself (a difficult looking piece that PART did manage to capture well) as well as the rudder bar assembly. If you place the Berg on the Datafile plans (which is itself not the best way to measure) you'll find the fuselage too short, not deep enough all 'round, and the engine cut out is wrong (this also looks wrong according to the pictures). Ah well... I applaude sp for finishing his. However, I'm too "retentive" to not fix most of these errors (I may live with the short fuselage - it's only short about one mm). So, this is why I put it away. Concentrate on some projects for others, and work on something that will provide some fun. Now, just where did I put that Roseplane SPAD 11...? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:46:27 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: French web site update Message-ID: <19991015.174628.-85987.0.mbittner@juno.com> Nothing like goin' lickety split! Thanks to Bob, I have added five-color Nieuport 28, "yellow" SPAD 7 and five-color SPAD 7. Check 'em out if you can, and LMK what you think. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:13:49 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. Message-ID: <3807C33C.7C68A2C3@bellsouth.net> Hi All, Last night, I wasn't in the mood to work on the 28, since it decided it was going to start fighting back at the end. And I didn't want to work on the HB fuselage and get too far ahead of myself before I got some better references. So not to be idle, I decided to just go ahead and put the Sierra vac fuselage together. I figured since I wasn't going to be using it, it would serve as a guinea pig for things I may want to try on the scratched fus. And it would also give me my first taste of putting together vac parts without having to worry about ruining a model kit.. Here's a few observations I'm willing to share with those uninitiated. First of all, if it's a basic slab sided fuselage, scrating one from card and strip is faster than assembling the vac parts. By as much as several hours possibly. Aside from not having all that prep sanding with a scratch built, the scratch built doesn't have the seam down the middle. It also comes into being with nicely defined corners, thus saving the added steps of refining the corners. As for refining the corners, I tried JV's method with plastic strip, and I tried someone else's? method of CAing a strip of brass wire(1/32?) along the corner and filling and sanding that. Imho, the wire method is far superior, as it starts out with less to sand to shape, and the brass provides a hard edge that shapes well with less chance of getting a wavy corner. In favor of vacs, I found that putting those fuselage halves together not as hard as I thought it would be. I also found the vac shell, once assembled, is a very sturdy assembly. Possibly as strong, or even stronger, than an injected fuselage. I'm no longer intimidated by vacs. Has anyone else come to these conclusions? For those whove never tried vacs or scratch building, I must say, Come on in, the water's fine. E. Who's modeling future is suddenly a whole lot brighter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:19:34 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Toko Berg advice Message-ID: <001401bf176c$2051c5c0$8e2e45cf@default> >I applaude sp for finishing his. However, I'm too "retentive" to not fix >most of these errors ... Thanks Matt, but I was assembling a kit, you were building a model. And to think I read the phrase, "In 1/72nd, why? " in a Matt Bittner post. ;-) Come on y'all quarter scalers. Doesn't that statement imply something about 1:72? Perhaps something less? I bet he already has his order in to Barry for that 1:48 Taube. sp diving for cover behind a pile of kits in both scales. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:52:21 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Seat Materials Message-ID: <000301bf1770$cc571ba0$4673ba8c@Pvosburg> Hi All Does anyone know what the seat bodies were made of on the Avro 504? None of the interior photos I have actually show the seat backs; the cutaway from Flight seems to indicate thin ply (steamed and formed?)... but I'm open to suggestions. TIA, DV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:12:36 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: One more web update Message-ID: <3807D104.5DEADAEC@mail.telepac.pt> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > Okay. It's here. First I would publicly thank Bob Pearson. You'll see > why. Matt and Bob, Excellent job. A truly first class reference site. Thanks for sharing such a wonderful piece of work. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:37:18 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko Berg advice Message-ID: <19991015.203751.-67953.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:18:56 -0400 (EDT) smperry@mindspring.com writes: > Thanks Matt, but I was assembling a kit, you were building a model. Is that it? :-) > And to think I read the phrase, "In 1/72nd, why? " in a Matt > Bittner post. > ;-) > > Come on y'all quarter scalers. Doesn't that statement imply > something about > 1:72? Perhaps something less? > > I bet he already has his order in to Barry for that 1:48 Taube. Grrr...you're reading more into it, and themsrfightinwords... > sp diving for cover behind a pile of kits in both scales. You should be! You should be... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:46:05 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: SPAD 11 Message-ID: <19991015.204606.-87761.0.mbittner@juno.com> Don't know if anybody else has seen it, but NKR lists a new Planet Models release as a 1/72nd SPAD 11. Cool! But not cool. It's great to see a new company tackle WW1, but I have my reservations. It's injected. Which means the flying surfaces *may be* to thick. From the looks of the decals, I'm guessing that it's based on the FMP drawings. Which is bad, because the FMP SPAD 11 drawings are *not* accurate. Plus it's bloody expensive! At Aus$42 that comes out to about US$28. Which means maybe less if ordering from NKR (but how much less) and more if you'll be buying it from someone in the US. Rosemont's vac is $17. Am I interested? You bet! I want to see if my thoughts are true about it being based on the FMP drawings. Don't get me wrong. If you want to buy it go ahead. Me, I like my Roseplane's... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:51:19 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Seat Materials Message-ID: <0.9cb3662e.25393417@aol.com> In a message dated 10/15/99 8:55:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dave@vga-graphics.com writes: << Does anyone know what the seat bodies were made of on the Avro 504? None of the interior photos I have actually show the seat backs; the cutaway from Flight seems to indicate thin ply (steamed and formed?)... but I'm open to suggestions. >> The photo in the Windsock Datafile sure looks like metal to me. There are signs of some dents in the back which you would not see in plywood. Also, the bead around the edge of the back is a small round bar which looks as if it were metal molded in with the back. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:12:07 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. Message-ID: <001201bf177b$da892320$0d51c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Feels good, don't it Brother? That's exactly what I thought about a built vac fuselage - that it was surprisingly strong. It's thin, it's easier to detail, and when it comes down to it, it is a great way to get a model of an obscure type, and with ingenuity, skill, patience, and other qualities that none of us actually have, a stunning piece can be built. It's just a little different. That's all. I'm happy that you're scratching the C.I. Lemme know if you have any trouble - I used to do that for a job - scratchbuilding. I have the Sierra kit, and I actually started pulling parts out of the sheet the other night. And the news that the Taube is almost here..... Dave n.b. The 1/48 1 1/2 Strutter is nearly done - pics upon completion. n.p. The Fall - the A Sides N.W. breaking in some motorcycle chaps - no giggling!! -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 7:16 PM Subject: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. >Hi All, > >Last night, I wasn't in the mood to work on the 28, since it decided it >was going to start fighting back at the end. And I didn't want to work >on the HB fuselage and get too far ahead of myself before I got some >better references. >So not to be idle, I decided to just go ahead and put the Sierra vac >fuselage together. I figured since I wasn't going to be using it, it >would serve as a guinea pig for things I may want to try on the >scratched fus. And it would also give me my first taste of putting >together vac parts without having to worry about ruining a model kit.. >Here's a few observations I'm willing to share with those uninitiated. >First of all, if it's a basic slab sided fuselage, scrating one from >card and strip is faster than assembling the vac parts. By as much as >several hours possibly. Aside from not having all that prep sanding with >a scratch built, the scratch built doesn't have the seam down the >middle. It also comes into being with nicely defined corners, thus >saving the added steps of refining the corners. As for refining the >corners, I tried JV's method with plastic strip, and I tried someone >else's? method of CAing a strip of brass wire(1/32?) along the corner >and filling and sanding that. Imho, the wire method is far superior, as >it starts out with less to sand to shape, and the brass provides a hard >edge that shapes well with less chance of getting a wavy corner. > >In favor of vacs, I found that putting those fuselage halves together >not as hard as I thought it would be. I also found the vac shell, once >assembled, is a very sturdy assembly. Possibly as strong, or even >stronger, than an injected fuselage. I'm no longer intimidated by vacs. >Has anyone else come to these conclusions? For those whove never tried >vacs or scratch building, I must say, Come on in, the water's fine. >E. >Who's modeling future is suddenly a whole lot brighter. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:30:01 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. Message-ID: <003401bf177e$595f5000$8e2e45cf@default> I'm no longer intimidated by vacs. >Has anyone else come to these conclusions? For those whove never tried >vacs or scratch building, I must say, Come on in, the water's fine. >E. >Who's modeling future is suddenly a whole lot brighter. That's been my experience . sp With 5 vacs built. Hey I'm a vac Ace... Not! But I ain't 'fraid of 'em neither. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:43:18 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. Message-ID: <3807F455.C68A7505@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > > I'm happy that you're scratching the C.I. Well, I'm scratching the fuselage. I plan on using the kit wings and maybe the kit tail. The problem I'm having today is that I don't know what the rudder bar looked like or how the control wires are arranged in the cockpit. I also would like to see inside the engine compartment, but considering the cowling, that's probably not really necessary. If I can't find anything, I may just have to have a guess at it. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:36:37 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. Message-ID: <199910160036_MC2-8930-BF07@compuserve.com> E, Welcome to the fold. >> For those whove never tried >vacs or scratch building, I must say, Come on in, the water's fine. << My collection has 24 vacs in it and there is no way I could have the numbers or variety of kits without vacs. And once you get over the initial fear, they are not that much harder to build than an injection. Especially with the aftermarket products that dress them up so nice. Glad to have you with us. Keep up the good work and send pictures. :-) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/12/99 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:08:31 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Oh Crap! Message-ID: <3808246E.FB8BB38F@airmail.net> I was just poking thru my Eduard Hannover C.III kit when I realised the lozenge camo is just for the wings! Crap! I have to paint that fancy lozenge fuselage myself! I really like this aircraft, but I don't know if I am up to this paint job just yet. Any tips on how to paint the lozenge pattern? Americal won't help out here will they? The Flashback Aviatik looks awfully interesting all of the sudden... Later! Brent -- ************************************* They’ve got us surrounded, the poor bastards! ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:23:32 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Oh Crap! Message-ID: <19991016052332.20438.qmail@hotmail.com> Brent, the Hannover fuselage is painted only in an "approximation" of the printed fabric. Don't let it intimidate you, just express yourself Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:41:14 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Oh Crap! Message-ID: <38080FF9.567C470E@bellsouth.net> Brent & Tina Theobald wrote: > Americal won't help out here will they? > Actually, they will. AG makes a bunch of different bomber loz patternes which are oversized and come in nice dark blue tones with bits of pink thrown in. I've got a partial sheet of Freidrichshaffen loz tucked away for my Hannover. However, it's not perfect. The lozs don't taper down in size like you would need for the rear section of the fus.. But that's not that big a deal imo. And don't forget to spray a transparent blue or green over the bomber loz. Either that or start cutting frisket. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:49:43 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. Message-ID: <380811F6.242E95B7@bellsouth.net> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > Welcome to the fold. > Thank you. It's a good company. And a couple years from now, when I put this bird on the shelf, I'll climb Mt.Styrene and take my place at the hobby bench of the immortals. And there, live as happy as the day is long. > Glad to have you with us. Keep up the good work and send pictures. > :-) But of course. Thank you. Prometheus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:55:48 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: a few observations made on the HB C.I project. Message-ID: <38081364.BD3D9FA1@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > It's thin, it's easier to detail, Yeah, I noticed that the cockpit looked pretty roomy. The SB should look even better, cause it'll be thinner than the vac. > N.W. breaking in some motorcycle chaps - no giggling!! hee hee hee! E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 05:48:37 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: H-B C.I Message-ID: <19991016.054838.-26319.0.mbittner@juno.com> Ernest's scratchbuild project brought a question to mind. Is there any kit in 1/72nd of the Brandenburg C.I? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 04:22:34 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: H-B C.I Message-ID: <19991016112234.65341.qmail@hotmail.com> http://207.82.250.251/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=&lah=ab6590cc694899286f2f7428bb8df5aa&lat=940072727&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ehannants%2eco%2euk Matt, you'll find a 1/72 resin at the URL above Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1923 **********************