WWI Digest 1910 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Cramer Vacs by "David Vosburgh" 2) French WWI Naval Aviation book by "Sandy Adam" 3) Re: Vac kits comments by "Lance Krieg" 4) Re: Re: Vacs by GRBroman@aol.com 5) Re: Vac kits comments by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 6) first vac again by "d mather" 7) Re: VERSION 2.0 (short) by "Len Smith" 8) Re: Vac kits comments by "Len Smith" 9) Re: Version 2.0 by "Len Smith" 10) Re: VERSION 2.0 (short) by "Len Smith" 11) Re: Vacuform Kits and the Truth by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: Vac kits comments by "DAVID BURKE" 13) Re: First Vac by "DAVID BURKE" 14) Re: Decal paper by David & Carol Fletcher 15) Zen and the Art of Vac Building by " " 16) OT material at HyperScale by Albatrosdv@aol.com 17) Free Modeling!! by Albatrosdv@aol.com 18) Re: First Vac by Albatrosdv@aol.com 19) Re: Zen and the Art of Vac Building by Albatrosdv@aol.com 20) Re: First Vac by "Landon, James D" 21) RE: First Vac by Shane Weier 22) RE: First Vac by Shane Weier 23) RE: Version 2.0 by Shane Weier 24) Re: Web update, part 2 by "Landon, James D" 25) Re: Free Modeling!! by "DAVID BURKE" 26) Web update by Matthew E Bittner 27) Re: First Vac by Matthew E Bittner 28) Off topic help by Matthew E Bittner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:29:41 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Cramer Vacs Message-ID: <002601bf10d0$7c312220$7ed690d0@Pvosburg> I recently bought a couple of vac kits in 1:48 from someone's disposal list --- the Sierra H-B W.29 and Koster D.VIII/E.V, which are both excellent in their own ways. As a freebie, the guy threw in two old vac kits from someone apparently named Ken Cramer --- a Roland D.II and a Pfalz D.XII. Both are, err... shall we say, *very* basic. Anybody ever hear of him/them? DV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:21:52 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: French WWI Naval Aviation book Message-ID: <01bb01bf10d9$55206fc0$01e8b094@sandyada> Some of you may be interested in the following corespondence I had with MCP Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Midland Counties To: Sandy Adam Date: 07 October 1999 15:11 Subject: Author Lucien Morareau >Mr Adam - we have just received the following message from M Morareau, >which seems to answer your question. Our buyer tells me there will not be a >problem in obtaining this title from ARDHAN and he will follow it up. >Could you please help us to answer m Morareau's final question? Thank you! > >---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > >Right you are... I happen to be one of the authors. I was last week in >Tours >to have a last check on the manuscript before sending it to the printer. >This book is going to publish by the ARDHAN organization whith which you >have already been working I think. It will have over 500 pages, more than >400 pictures, numerous maps and aircraft plans and profiles. It will cover >everything concerning French Naval Aviation in WW1 : History, operations, >units, personnel, aircraft, armament, roll of honour, losses, victories, >etc... > >I think that the book which is entitled "L'aviation maritime pendant la >Grande Guerre", will be available by the end of October or begining of >November. > >What puzzles me is how the heck did you find that I was involved in that >book ? I am not angry at all, I just want to know... > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:47:50 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Vac kits comments Message-ID: Someone asked: > Question: Is it possible to strengthen built up vac fuselages by > filling/partially filling them with resin or ? I read somewhere that using an expanding insulating foam works quite well, but haven't tried it myself. In the US, at least, it is sold in cans at home improvement stores, and is used to squirt into cracks to block drafts. It is very sticky initially, but dries to a styrofoam-like consistency that is easily carved. WARNING: I haven't tried this, so I refuse to vouch for its efficacy! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:50:07 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Vacs Message-ID: <0.51e0a5b6.252e1b2f@aol.com> In a message dated 10/7/99, 1:57:59 AM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: <> Hey guys, If I can build a vacuform Modakit A7V, anybody can build a vacuform. :) Ask Matt, he's seen me and can vouch for my two left hands, approximately the size of hams with no opposable thumbs.... Glen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:03:05 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Vac kits comments Message-ID: Lance wrote: >>I read somewhere that using an expanding insulating foam works quite well, but haven't tried it myself. << I haven't tried it either, but know that if you over-fill the parts, like a completed wing, it can expand and distort the parts, or worst case, can actually tear it apart at the seams. I have always taken time to make bulkheads and added them where needed. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:04:32 PDT From: "d mather" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: first vac again Message-ID: <19991007160433.5692.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, I think it is important to realize the level of modeler on this list. I tried my first vac years ago - infact 2. I tried the LS Junkers D.1 and some other HB D.1. The Junker was a bust simply because I had no idea at the time how to deal with all those corregations. The HD was a flop because the instructions failed to mention anything about how to build the struts (imagine a starstrutter w/o any strut pattern!!) Anyway, I am building Sierra Scale now, and am very happy to say it will end up being a very acceptable model. it is a multi-bay, 2 seater. I think on this list it is overstated to build a monoplane, etc because... 1> SS (and others) give good detail instructions, and are high quality vacs! 2> I learned to build a simple jig for the wings from you guys. 3> I've lost the imtimidation of scratchbuilding interiors after a few decent injected kits - WW1 planes were so basic, and stretched sprue, plastic bits, and the basic interiors make an acceptable interior. In short, I dont think it is beyond anybody on this list's abilities to do a vac and have a great kit of an unusual subject - just gird up that loin, etc and start cutting! FWIW, doug PS - We're quickly approaching digest # 1914-1918 - any special stuff will really shine here! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:11:07 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: VERSION 2.0 (short) Message-ID: <000e01bf10e7$ae265220$224f08c3@lensmith> Matt, Blue Rider. They didn't do many kits, I have their Vickers Gun Busses FB5 and FB9, but the ones that made their name were the Farman MF11 with PE booms and landing gear and the Bleriot XI with PE fuselage and landing gear. In your word- awesome! BTW the Camel Comic was also a conversion kit. Eastern Star (not Models). As you say just the two, but very good quality. After these two the Owner did a runner, so no more kits. Formaplane. If they are in a plastic bag, forget them. If they are in a Pizza delivery box, buy them. Libramodels/Scaleplanes. Made by the same bloke (Les Cooper?). Mostly good quality, several years back ED Models bought them up and re issued some, but I think they have stopped now. Phoenix. Les Cooper again, very good quality. Issued twice, once without and once with metal parts. Veterans 72. Issued several vacforms before going on to resin. Mostly French a/c and fairly basic, their metal bits have to be seen to be believed, horrible. Having said that, I am trying to screw up my courage to build one of them. Slightly ot Ader's Eole from 1890something. Darn great thing even in the proper scale! Contrail. Did three OT, Blackburn GP Seaplane, Kangaroo and civil version. Need a lot of building, double surface wings and tailplanes and the tops don't match the bottoms. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:06 PM Subject: Re: VERSION 2.0 (short) > On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:13:23 -0400 (EDT) "dfernet0" > writes: > > > - Blue Rider: ? > > Decent. I have built the Oeffag vac fuselage conversion, and it does > take some work. However, the "older", full kits seem nice, like the > Camel Comic, etc. > > > -Eastern Models: (only two made that I know of - MoS Type BB and > > DH.10) What > > about them, Matt? > > I only have the BB, and it's a very nice vac with metal detail bits. > > > - Formaplane: ? > > As was already said, range from horrid to decent. > > > -Libramodels: ? > > The only one I have - the DH5 - is decent enough. > > > - Phoenix: ? > > Very good. While they have tackled a lot of "esoteric" stuff, the > execution is as good as you can get with vac. > > Also forgot to mention Wings 72. Very soft detail that will take some > work. > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:19:59 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Vac kits comments Message-ID: <001101bf10e7$b224a8e0$224f08c3@lensmith> Brent, you wrote > Scaleplanes: I consider these kits to vary from extremely difficult to nearly > impossible. Interesting. I have built many of these with no problems, I should be pleased to learn which are the nearly impossible. Unless, of course, you are referring to kits of German aircraft, which I find totally (almost) impossible to build. Possibly the fact that I only own the VLE Mars may have something to do with it. Regards Len. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:11:18 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Version 2.0 Message-ID: <000f01bf10e7$af86cc80$224f08c3@lensmith> Shane, Esoteric was not entirely ot, they did a Curtiss F Boat, a Curtiss N9H and a Parnall Panther. How you can call them odd ball I do not know, haven't you seen their Westland Walrus? On second thoughts I see what you mean! Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:39:31 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: VERSION 2.0 (short) Message-ID: <001301bf10e7$b4c28540$224f08c3@lensmith> Ken, snip > Having said that, I admit I have fond memories of Airframe kits, all > bought during various trips to Burnaby Hobbies in B.C. The first vac I > ever built was an Airframe Supermarine S.4, and the lack of surface > details was not a problem with this very streamlined racer. Most, if > not all, of their WWI kits have been replaced by newer resin, vac and > injected kits. If you don't mind a lot of scratchbuilding, they can > still be a source of modeling enjoyment. I too have memories of an Airframe kit. Probably the finest model I have ever seen (physically as opposed to electronically or photographically) was a Short 184. Absolutely fabulous build quality, the painting by artists oil paints was superb. In fact not so much a model, more of a miniature 184. And I have a kit of this which is horrendous, a real pig's ear! Yet someone, I can't remember his name, managed to turn this brute into a gem, Just goes to show what can be done when the will is there. Regards Len. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:35:21 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Vacuform Kits and the Truth Message-ID: <006801bf10ec$b83a0680$4381aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Just beer old man, just beer. In brewski veritas! DB -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Vacuform Kits and the Truth >Sometimes drunken southerners... > >tell the thruth! > >David is 100% right in his analysis of what a vaduform is/can do for the >modeler. > >(so, what kinda moonshine is it, DB, and can you send it through the US >Mule???) > >Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:51:18 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Vac kits comments Message-ID: <006c01bf10ec$bbdccfc0$4381aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >Question: Is it possible to strengthen built up vac fuselages by >filling/partially filling them with resin or ? I realize the heat >generated by the curing process would be a problem... I have a lovely >Rareplanes Gotha, but am hesitant to fool with it. DO NOT use the expanding insulating foam! If you do, you will find that the stuff continues to expand long after you want it to stop - and also it cures unevenly, so that while things look good one minute, turn your back and that nice fuselage is twisted and split like a sausage in a microwave! The best way to strengthen a vac fuselage is to add internal stringers and stiffeners, much like the real plane. If that isn't feasible, then 15-minute epoxy can be used - most of it, as it cures, generates very little, if any, heat. Don't try to fill the fuselage - rather run ribbons of epoxy throughthe fuselage. Or try epoxy putty. But stay away from that foam - it's murder! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:37:57 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: First Vac Message-ID: <006901bf10ec$b9037100$4381aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey, I'm Union on both halves of the tree! Good midwestern stock! I am a sleeper agent. n.b. Fokker D.VIII - done tomorrow, Camel, Pfalz D.III, 1 1/2 Strutter. If anyone is going to the contest in Fayetteville, GA on Saturday, I'll see you there! DB -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 1:42 AM Subject: Re: First Vac >In a message dated 99-10-07 02:16:38 EDT, you write: > ><< I reckon I ain't the dipstick that most > take me for - and I MOST HEARTILY recommend Koster to all vac novices! > >> > >In all truth, DB, at first I was thinking my Yankee ancestors had not been >diligent enough, but you grow on one like a southern vine. :-) > >It helps that you really do seem to have a committment to the "truths" that >modeling reveals. > >And those cats are the clincher. > >TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:51:57 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Decal paper Message-ID: <37FCCFAD.6832@mars.ark.com> Tom Werner Hansen wrote: "You ran the frisk film through the laser printer? That must be an excellent way of making masks for complex shapes." You may have to experiment first. Some frisk films have different glue compositions and the heat may set them. Try it with a small piece taped (from the back of course!) to a similar sized hole in a sheet of bond paper. If I ever get around to taking a photo of the ["ot" Alert!] Do17V1 "technology demonstrator", you can see that it works. I have three different kinds of frisk film and I can't remember which one I used. I think it may have been the Badger film, though. The frisk that came on a flat sheet (as opposed to a roll) is terrible even without heat setting - it sets up permanently in an hour or so - I know it wasn't that one! Are you going to do lozenge patterns??? Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:10:54 -0700 From: " " To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Zen and the Art of Vac Building Message-ID: I know others have weighed in on this same vein, but I couldn't resist adding my 2 cents worth. For anyone contemplating taking the advice to do an ID or Combat Go-229 as a first vac, unless it's your favorite airplane in the whole world, and you absolutely need it in 1/32, DON'T DO IT!!! A friend of mine is just finishing up the Combat 229. Whatever small and questionable advantages there may have been in having only 2 vac pieces to prepare were more than offset by the lack of ANY other parts, trench-like panel lines, a semi-opaque canopy, and even those 2 "simple" vac pieces didn't fit right anyway. Anyone interested in trying a vac would be far better served by choosing a high quality kit of an airplane you really like and want to add to your collection. Once the vac pieces are separated from the backing sheet and sanded, a high quality vac kit goes together just like any other kit. The separation and sanding process is really quite easy, doesn't take long, and there is no reason to be intimidated by it at all. Building a vac has a rythymn and pace altogether unique--it's rather zen-like, in the sense that the process, not the end product is the important thing. Having built all types of kits, including scratchbuilding, I find building a high quality vac the most relaxing, enjoyable, and rewarding modeling experience out there. Try it, relax and enjoy! Deal with each challenge as it comes up (no different from any other kind of kit), take your time and I think you will be very surprised and pleased with what you are capable of. My vote for an ideal first vac kit would be (ot alert!) the Dynavector Wyvern. It's about the closest thing to a perfect kit (vac or injection) I've ever encountered. HTH, Karl --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:07:34 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: OT material at HyperScale Message-ID: <0.79f0b0d9.252e4976@aol.com> Guys: Just to let you know, Brett Green of HyperScale is quite interested in publishing articles on OT models at the site. Also, your ot stuff is welcome there too. Candice Uhlir's AEG and a couple OT pieces by yrs trly will be there in the near future. If there is anyone who would like to contribute at HyperScale, but who is not sure their writing skills equal their modeling skills, you may avail yourselves of my assistance as an editor in preparing the copy for submission. If you haven't visited HyperScale, the URL is below. There is also a very decent discussion group, where - unlike the pre-school kindergarten sandbox that is r.m.s. - useful modeling information is actually exchanged, in a manner similar to this group, but without the joie de vivre of our banter. If any of you want to exercise your guilty participation in ot modeling, no one will "blow your cover" there. :-) Hyperscale is updated almost every day, and at least 2-3 times per week, so there is reason to become a "frequenter" if you want to. HyperScale: http://www.hyperscale.com Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:07:42 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Free Modeling!! Message-ID: <0.b148f357.252e497e@aol.com> Guys: Just wanted to let you know that there is an opportunity for you to do some "free" modeling, in either OT or "ot" topics - a chance to increase the stash without having the wife complain about where the money went! Jerry Campbell at Squadron has hired me to increase both the quantity and quality of the reviews he is setting up at the SMO webpage. (Don't even ask about the format - that is not a topic subject to modification.) Here's the deal: Jerry is looking for models in 1/72, 1/48 and 1/32, of the more "esoteric" kits available in the Squadron catalogue. As he put it "Tamigawa sells itself." The modeler doing the kit and review would also be able to obtain aftermarket items like TD/Aires cockpits, Squadron canopies, any decals carried by SMO, etc. In return you make the model and write a review which would be most likely one page, and with some models a maximum of two pages (we work this out before you start work). This is hopefully accomplished within two months of your receiving the kit from Squadron. In return, you get $10 and another model if you want. Jerry asks that you not post reviews to other companies like Squadron (i.e., Hannant's, HLJ, etc.), but the model can be the subject of a review at other modeling sites like HyperScale, Flights of Fantasy, and any others like that. He asks that at the end of such an article you say "thanks to Squadron for providing the review copy." I specifically asked him if WW1 models were part of the deal, and his answer was yes, so here is the chance for eensy-weensies to get Toko kits, etc., and some of the 1/48 folks to add a BM kit to their collection. One could also add the 1/28 Revells or the 1/32 Hobbycraft OT's this way. Those of you who are interested in this, please contact me privately off-list. Put "Free modeling for SMO" in the header. At present, I have been asked to limit this to North American modelers until he sees if the operation makes good business sense. Some non-North American modelers who have contacted me from other posts have indicated a willingness to forego the $10 and have it applied to their postage in return for being included in. I have asked Jerry about this but have not as yet received a reply. If you are interested and fall in this category, do let me know, but I can't promise anything futher until I know more. Looking forward to sharing the loot, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:12:14 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First Vac Message-ID: <0.301576a6.252e4a8e@aol.com> In a message dated 99-10-07 14:03:26 EDT, you write: << Hey, I'm Union on both halves of the tree! Good midwestern stock! I am a sleeper agent. >> Prepare to be awakened, Agent Burke. :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:15:45 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Vac Building Message-ID: <0.847920dc.252e4b61@aol.com> In a message dated 99-10-07 14:13:39 EDT, you write: << My vote for an ideal first vac kit would be (ot alert!) the Dynavector Wyvern. It's about the closest thing to a perfect kit (vac or injection) I've ever encountered. HTH, Karl >> Very definitely! And even if it is ot, it is "wierd enough" that there are many "experts" out there who will reveal the breadth of their ignorance in public by claiming it is as "imaginary" an airplane as its name implies. Anyone who does a combat model should be a regular at www.s-m.com :-) (and no, I have no idea if that is a "real" URL) Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:48:08 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'WWI modelers list'" Subject: Re: First Vac Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A4704A4D1BA@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> >> All this talk of Vacs has started the itch. Could anyone recommend a good first build? << Has anyone on this list built the Hanriot HD3 from RosePlanes? Barry Stettler sold it to me several months ago. Tiniest, most delicate little thing I've ever seen. It will be my first vac form and my first 1:72 plastic, so I need lots of advice. No rush, it'll be another 6 months before I'm done with the Tommy. Jim Landon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 06:47:00 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: First Vac Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475BE0@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dave says: > I reckon I ain't the dipstick that most > take me for Aww, come on now. Don't underestimate yourself! Shane ;-) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 06:50:03 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: First Vac Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475BE1@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dennis > The Sierra AEG IV for a customer. Its on my web site. A most beautiful kit, and model. I doubt I'd have been willing to wave it goodbye. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 07:23:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Version 2.0 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475BE2@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Len, > Esoteric was not entirely ot, they did a Curtiss F Boat, a > Curtiss N9H and a > Parnall Panther. How you can call them odd ball I do not > know, haven't you > seen their Westland Walrus? > On second thoughts I see what you mean! I'm getting old! My database says I built the Jenny in 1994 - just before I joined the list - which would be correct because I managed to trash it in a house move around then. The F boat goes back to the 80's - well into Alzheimer teritory. However - I have no recollection or record of the Panther, so I have to withdraw my assertion of having had all of them :-( What I *really* meant is that they covered a great many of those colourful and forgotten subjects from the silver wings/yellow wings era - ot here, but interesting enough if you don't have a real plane to build :-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:39:21 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'WWI modelers list'" Subject: Re: Web update, part 2 Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A4704A4D1B9@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> Matt said <> It sure is!! Incredible. I absolutely love checking out all the photo URL's and web sites you guys post on this list, when I get a chance to read a digest. Jim http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page53.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:35:39 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Free Modeling!! Message-ID: <002701bf1114$89624480$2a31c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Hell, tell the guy that I'll do a few write ups on stuff that I already have, and if he wants to shoot me a couple of kits - no problem! DB -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 2:11 PM Subject: Free Modeling!! >Guys: > >Just wanted to let you know that there is an opportunity for you to do some >"free" modeling, in either OT or "ot" topics - a chance to increase the stash >without having the wife complain about where the money went! > >Jerry Campbell at Squadron has hired me to increase both the quantity and >quality of the reviews he is setting up at the SMO webpage. (Don't even ask >about the format - that is not a topic subject to modification.) Here's the >deal: > >Jerry is looking for models in 1/72, 1/48 and 1/32, of the more "esoteric" >kits available in the Squadron catalogue. As he put it "Tamigawa sells >itself." The modeler doing the kit and review would also be able to obtain >aftermarket items like TD/Aires cockpits, Squadron canopies, any decals >carried by SMO, etc. In return you make the model and write a review which >would be most likely one page, and with some models a maximum of two pages >(we work this out before you start work). This is hopefully accomplished >within two months of your receiving the kit from Squadron. > >In return, you get $10 and another model if you want. Jerry asks that you >not post reviews to other companies like Squadron (i.e., Hannant's, HLJ, >etc.), but the model can be the subject of a review at other modeling sites >like HyperScale, Flights of Fantasy, and any others like that. He asks that >at the end of such an article you say "thanks to Squadron for providing the >review copy." > >I specifically asked him if WW1 models were part of the deal, and his answer >was yes, so here is the chance for eensy-weensies to get Toko kits, etc., and >some of the 1/48 folks to add a BM kit to their collection. One could also >add the 1/28 Revells or the 1/32 Hobbycraft OT's this way. > >Those of you who are interested in this, please contact me privately >off-list. Put "Free modeling for SMO" in the header. > >At present, I have been asked to limit this to North American modelers until >he sees if the operation makes good business sense. Some non-North American >modelers who have contacted me from other posts have indicated a willingness >to forego the $10 and have it applied to their postage in return for being >included in. I have asked Jerry about this but have not as yet received a >reply. If you are interested and fall in this category, do let me know, but I >can't promise anything futher until I know more. > >Looking forward to sharing the loot, > >Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:38:03 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Web update Message-ID: <19991007.173804.-142239.0.mbittner@juno.com> Guess! :-) I think I have all the 1/72nd done now for all pages. Still need to add the 1/48th SPAD decal bits; plus, if someone would like to provide me with 1/48th decal details for the other types (MoS, Nieuport, etc.). Actually, all of the 1/48th stuff I could use some help with. For example, do I have all the known kits in that scale, I'm missing all aftermarket items, the kits need to be rated, etc. It would be great if whomever does this for me provides it in the basic format I have outlined. If not, I will accept anything else, but be prepared to wait for the updates. As soon as I finish the 1/48th SPAD decal page, then I'll upload the lot to Al, and wait for another upload to him until I have more 1/48th info. In the meantime, still watch the sprintmail account: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:45:57 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: First Vac Message-ID: <19991007.174714.-142239.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:46:52 -0400 (EDT) "Landon, James D" writes: > Has anyone on this list built the Hanriot HD3 from RosePlanes? > Barry > Stettler sold it to me several months ago. Tiniest, most delicate > little > thing I've ever seen. It will be my first vac form and my first > 1:72 > plastic, so I need lots of advice. I have it sanded out, but not started unfortunately. Just take your time sanding, and all will be alright. For those who haven't seen it, the resin cowl is the most amazing piece of resin I have seen! Exquisite, perfect detail. Now to keep harrassing them to re-do the SPAD 11 nose... ;-) Oh, and hey Barry? Now that I have your attention, why not come out with a Breguet 5 and a Nieuport 14? ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:51:45 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Off topic help Message-ID: <19991007.175146.-142239.3.mbittner@juno.com> I'm trying to solve a dilemma. One of the "new" model manufacturers I really really like (off topic, of course ;-) really needs a decent distributor in the states. Notice I said "decent", which excludes MMD. If we found a distributor for that company, then the excellent kits this company puts out will be more readily available in the states. If you're curious, I'm talking about the company PST, which makes excellent 1/72nd Soviet GPW armor (see this month's IM for a First Look at two of them). I have been told by a list member that just came back from Moscow more of the PST kits are out, but they're having difficulty finding a distributor. I want to reiterate. I will *not* pass MMD's name to them. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1910 **********************