WWI Digest 1887 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: FSM by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM by KarrArt@aol.com 3) FSM Ambivalence by John & Allison Cyganowski 4) Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM by Albatrosdv@aol.com 5) Re: FSM by Albatrosdv@aol.com 6) Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM by Zulis@aol.com 7) RE: Another dud(sorta) from FSM by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 8) Electronic Paper - was Another dud(sorta) from FSM by "Andy Kemp" 9) Hello by Jim Landon 10) RE: Another dud(sorta) from FSM by "John C Glaser" 11) Re: Dennis U - The Challenge! by "Steve" 12) Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III by "Steve" 13) I ONLY ORDERED ONE! by "DAVID BURKE" 14) Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III by "Todd Hayes" 15) Re: Dennis U - The Challenge! by Tom Solinski 16) Re: I ONLY ORDERED ONE! by Albatrosdv@aol.com 17) Re: I ONLY ORDERED ONE! by Tom Solinski 18) RE: Modeling in a Wierd Place by Shane Weier 19) RE: Modeling in a Wierd Place by Shane Weier 20) Re: FSM Ambivalence by Tom Solinski 21) Re: Modeling in a Wierd Place by Matthew E Bittner 22) Re: WW1 mailing list by Matthew E Bittner 23) RE: Another dud(sorta) from FSM by Shane Weier 24) Re: Web page ideas by Matthew E Bittner 25) Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM by Matthew E Bittner 26) Re: FSM Ambivalence by Matthew E Bittner 27) Re: Dennis U - The Challenge! by bucky@ptdprolog.net 28) Reference book technology, was: Another dud(sorta)... by Zulis@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:02:37 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FSM Message-ID: <75bf06db.25226acd@aol.com> In a message dated 9/28/99 10:34:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << As with SAMI in the past 18 months for contributors other than David Batt, the models are not models I would want to be associated with in IM - at least in large part. To me, the model on the cover of something should be incredible, fantastic, should make me say "how did they *do* that?!!" It should *not* be "how did that get up there, is he related to the editor or something?" >> It's not just FSM- it's a general decline in magazines- a lot of the models in SAMI are just plain laughable- they're provide "anti-inspiration"- a waste of a fine paper and printing ( an area where FSM has really went downhill). I also question some of their research articles, plus an overall pomposity that's at times laughable. As for news of the latest products- that's where all this internet stuff is proving itself. It really is possible to read a good review of a kit within days of it hitting the street. FSM HAS declined- I have every issue, including the pre-vol1 no1 test edition- and it seemed like they would go on forever. Tom mentions Boksanski- a true great! Guys like him and Shep Paine, Steve Zaloga- they made early FSM great. Off-topic stuff doesn't really bother me (although one more sci-fi ship and I might gag). An early FSM had a great article about building the evil truck from the movie "Duel". I learned alot about weathering with subtlety from this- the article still sticks in my brain. I find the generalist approach refreshing- it's what I want in a "mass" market mag. Again, back to the old days- in the pre v1n1 edition-I'm not particularly interested in early 19th century British navy history, but Paine's shadowbox diorama of Nelson saluting his officers on board the Victory made me want to find out more. Part of the problem may be that guys like myself and alot of others who have been at this along time have gone beyond what's presented- no brag, just fact, ma'am. In my "elder" years, what do I want to see? MODELS. I like seeing MODELS. I like seeing what others have built- all kinds of MODELS. Reader's Gallery is my favorite part of the mag, but with the crappy printing FSM has now, even that's dimming. Mix that with what seems to be a general decline in the quality of photography and there's not much left.(except for the ads- I DO like those) Maybe it's just a natural cycle- it's time for FSM to die- or at least figure out what to do in the web-age. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:21:07 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: In a message dated 9/28/99 11:44:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca writes: << One major problem, though: It is awkward to take your computer with you to read in the john. Dave Z >> In all seriousness- this IS one problem that may have to be overcome for web-pubs! The portability of hard copy still can't be beat. Who knows- in 5 years or more- or less- technology may progress to the point of almost instantaneous downloading (I know it's here now, but most of us are still stuck with modi...I talking about an everyday standard everybody will be using) and instantaneous highquailty cheap printing. An average mag would be procured by clicking, followed by a 100 page download in .33 seconds and the whole mess printed in higher than modern magazine quality in 4.1 seconds using 50 cents worth of high quality ink. A dream now, but stranger things have happened. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:08:20 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: FSM Ambivalence Message-ID: <37F12034.358B@worldnet.att.net> I tend to agree with the prevailing opionions expressed here, but maybe not as strongly. I have quite a few of the issues between 1988 & 1996 and I still refer to these. I used to really enjoy the Bob Steinbrun aticles as they were what I was interested in (aircraft) and they contained tips that I could use immediately to improve my skills, ie no special (expensive) tools. There does seem to be fewer articles that interest me these days - whether because my own modeling skills have improved or that I have given up my off topic interests. I suspect that part of the problem might be a lack of good authors. A couple of years ago, FSM was begging for authors, promising substancial cash amounts for articles that were accepted. I don't want to commit the time to do such an article, so I don't want to criticize FSM too much. Of course one reason I have for hating them was an article I saw years ago about resin casting. I remember thinking, "Come on! How hard can this be? I think I'll give this a try one of these days and......" ;-) Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:18:34 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: <40aed104.25227c9a@aol.com> In a message dated 99-09-28 14:44:06 EDT, you write: << One major problem, though: It is awkward to take your computer with you to read in the john. Dave Z >> Wait till laptops come down in price the way PCs did. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:22:21 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FSM Message-ID: In a message dated 99-09-28 15:04:32 EDT, you write: << Robert K. >> Who currently has more covers of IM than any other individual. Need I say more about putting *inspiration* on the cover??? And no, Robert, you do not need to turn red with embarassment. Embarassment is necessary when one receives *unwarranted* praise. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:29:34 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: <33d085bd.25227f2e@aol.com> Robert K writes: << In all seriousness- this IS one problem that may have to be overcome for web-pubs! The portability of hard copy still can't be beat. >> Actually, though I sounded like I was kidding, this is something that often comes up when people discuss "books on the net". For research, I think the internet is, or soon will be, king. For novels, or anything that you might read in large chunks, it just isnt as good as having a good hard-bound book in your hands, a comfortable chair, and a cool drink by your side. We are probably more tactile-oriented than we realize - watch the hands of someone trying to give up smoking to know what I mean..... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:42:22 -0700 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: <000301bf09f1$f704abb0$618cded1@chris> Well, with the pace of technology the way it is, I can forsee "book computers" coming out, which incorporate a flat screen and a small processor in a book-sized form. Running on long-life batteries (current lithium ion technology can run laptops for up to 8 hours now), these would be able to connect wirelessly to the Internet and download books or magazines and store them in a solid state storage device. Turning the pages of the 'book' would be done through touch screen. This kind of setup is actually possible right now, but the costs are somewhat prohibitive. By the time flat screens are in every home computer, this will become more of a reality. Deluxe research tomes could become available, using a larger screen and be able to set upright on your desk. Then you can work on your latest model, and by touching the screen flip through an online version of a Datafile, viewing pictures of whatever. A simple zoom tool would zoom you in on that cockpit photo, or zoom you out for an all-around picture to help with rigging. A hard-copy printer could print out plans at whatever scale you choose to check for accuracy. This would render all of our research libraries obsolete, freeing up shelf space for all those Tamiya 1/48 Caproni bombers that will be due out in 2015 (after everything else has been done in injection plastic, including a separate mold for every one of the 30,000+ Bf1-Oh-Thingies). Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Editor Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Zulis@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 1:30 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM > > > Robert K writes: > > << In all seriousness- this IS one problem that may have to be > overcome for > web-pubs! > The portability of hard copy still can't be beat. >> > > Actually, though I sounded like I was kidding, this is something > that often > comes up when people discuss "books on the net". For > research, I think > the internet is, or soon will be, king. For novels, or > anything that you > might read in large chunks, it just isnt as good as having a good > hard-bound > book in your hands, a comfortable chair, and a cool drink by your > side. > We are probably more tactile-oriented than we realize - watch the > hands of > someone trying to give up smoking to know what I mean..... > > Dave Z > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:51:32 +0100 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Electronic Paper - was Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: <001501bf09f3$4dc62f40$03000004@675> Hey chaps! Watch out for Xerox's new "electronic paper" ... It's as thin as 120gsm paper (current version), and you can roll it up (but not fold it!). It plugs in to a PC to download documents, and uses Microsoft's new ClearType technology to present the text. When you've read your stuff, delete it and download the next chunk! A couple of years and this stuff will be available on the streets ... Someone once told me that "the paperless office is about as likely as the paperless toilet" - but I reckon he could be proved wrong soon :-) Andy K > Actually, though I sounded like I was kidding, this is something that often > comes up when people discuss "books on the net". For research, I think > the internet is, or soon will be, king. For novels, or anything that you > might read in large chunks, it just isnt as good as having a good hard-bound > book in your hands, a comfortable chair, and a cool drink by your side. > We are probably more tactile-oriented than we realize - watch the hands of > someone trying to give up smoking to know what I mean..... > > Dave Z > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:57:52 -0600 From: Jim Landon To: cazmodel@mindspring.com Cc: "Jim Landon @ lmco" , wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hello Message-ID: <37F12BD0.CB22CB77@lmco.com> Hi Caz, (and list) I haven't had time to read the wwi list digests that are piling up in my email "in basket" here at work, but I usually try to peek and see if there's anything new on Allan's web site news page at http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/news.html. Just now I stumbled onto your new photo gallery. Nice job on the "Snowbird". I always thought snowbirds were retired people who spent their summers in their original homes in the middle and northern parts of the United States, and then migrated to Arizona for the winter. ;-) The local people say "Here come the snowbirds." If you introduced yourself to the wwi list, I missed it. Tell me the date and I'll hunt for it. To introduce myself, I invite you to visit my various web sites. First, I do have a "gallery" if you can call it that (one unfinished model) on Allan Wright's wwi modeling web site at ... http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Landon/index.html The *ONE AND ONLY* WWI model airplane that I have ever built, which I have been working on for 9 or 10 months now, off-and-on, and have still not finished, begins at ... http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page6.html My very latest page about the model is at http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page53.html I have done more work on the model since that pic was taken. The engine, engine cowl, engine cowl latches, dashboard, the ___ (whatever you call the leather rim around the cockpit opening), and the headrest and windshield are done. Pictures in work. I am now working on scratch building and mounting the Marlin 30 cal machine gun because I know it will be harder to work on the fuselage after I have attached the bottom wing. Nice to "meet" you Caz, Jim Landon, wanabee WWI modeler In "Digest" mode and still way behind http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/landoni/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:03:27 -0500 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: OK! NOW WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!! I've been insulted before, but now you've really done it! I don't call it a DAVE - DO I???????? Uh-oh, time to take the old Armada notebook to the Dave & check the rest of my e-mail. - John One major problem, though: It is awkward to take your computer with you to read in the john. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:07:58 +0100 From: "Steve" To: Subject: Re: Dennis U - The Challenge! Message-ID: <002d01bf09f5$8b68c540$36e107c3@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Dennis U - The Challenge! > > How does anyone manage to find over 1,000 or even 600 WW1 kits worth buying? There's nearly 300 separate kits listed on the 1:72 scale database on my pages, but many of them are repeats or reboxings - I'd guess that there's only 250 distinct marques out there! However, the *original* database, available only in MS Works v.0.0001 (floppy disk only) lists over 700 marques of *possible* WW1 aircraft. I'm sure there were thousands of types constructed, most of which were factory prototypes, few of which actually flew, judging by the types designed here in Lincolnshire. Scho http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~scho.deni > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ > University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > ============================================================================ === > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:12:38 +0100 From: "Steve" To: Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III Message-ID: <004101bf09f6$323e1f00$36e107c3@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:16 AM Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III > On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:29:14 -0400 (EDT) mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes: > > > No one else noticed this in SAMI? > > Yea, right. Can you imagine those huge wings in resin? Sag city... > > Matt Bittner >Perhaps we could replace all the resin parts with plastic. Definitely a case of 'Trigger's Spade' :) lets see the US contingent figure that one out. Scho http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~scho.deni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:22:30 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: I ONLY ORDERED ONE! Message-ID: <002801bf09f7$93d14200$1185aec7@dora9sprynet.com> What's happening here? I'm getting doubled messages! Two of everything - and Cleaver in stereo scares the hell out of me! DB DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:33:35 PDT From: "Todd Hayes" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III Message-ID: <19990928213336.75693.qmail@hotmail.com> Check out TC Models of South Africa if you think this a/c in 1:72 will be big. How about a Gotha G.V or Felixstowe F2A in 1:48? Todd Hayes >From: "Steve" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:12:18 -0400 (EDT) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Matthew E Bittner >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:16 AM >Subject: Re: Chorozy Model Fdh. G.III > > > > On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:29:14 -0400 (EDT) mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes: > > > > > No one else noticed this in SAMI? > > > > Yea, right. Can you imagine those huge wings in resin? Sag city... > > > > Matt Bittner > > >Perhaps we could replace all the resin parts with plastic. Definitely a >case of 'Trigger's Spade' >:) lets see the US contingent figure that one out. >Scho >http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~scho.deni > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:24:45 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dennis U - The Challenge! Message-ID: <37F1402D.6B8F00D0@ionet.net> > On this subject, how big is the biggest known on topic collection? > Anyone know? > In the early eighties when I worked part time at a hobby shop my personal at home unbuilt collection hit around 1,400. Between 83 and 88 I managed to sell most of that off, except for the Auroras and some other ot stuff. Since 92 I have crept back up to in excess of 600 kits just before I started to sell off the 1/72 OT stuff to most of you on eBay before I found the list. I have been told that MR John Burns of the kit collector's clearinghouse numbered around 8,000 kits m2c Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:33:18 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I ONLY ORDERED ONE! Message-ID: In a message dated 99-09-28 17:29:06 EDT, you write: << and Cleaver in stereo scares the hell out of me! >> You mean *right* as well as left???? We'll have to fix that pronto! :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:37:27 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I ONLY ORDERED ONE! Message-ID: <37F14327.77809A56@ionet.net> --------------86104125868940486FDB3D7F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > << and Cleaver in stereo scares the hell out of me! >> > > You mean *right* as well as left???? We'll have to fix that pronto! :-) "CLEAVER STEREO" it ONLY comes from the right, regardless of how many speakers you have! 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Tom S --------------86104125868940486FDB3D7F-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:58:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Modeling in a Wierd Place Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475BA2@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dave, > >I have some pieces of basswood from which I'm carving masters,photos, > >drawings, knives and sandpaper in my laptop case - which, > >with me, is about 800' underground at the moment. When I'm finished > >I may have to wait an hour > >before I can get a lift to the surface, so I'll sit in the > >crib room and > >carve, and imagine being 800' *above* the ground > > > Be very careful as you ascend from your depths: stop > every 200' or so for an hour or you might get the bends! > Heehee. I couldn't get out fast enough - not really cut out for the heat dirt and claustrophobic confines of a coal mine. On which, several things. I had my laptop *case* not the PC with me since I'm allergic to loud bangs (I was using a sealed environment unit underground). Coal dust makes basswood a funny grey colour, approximately FS-16440 You don't want to know what FS you can make a handkerchief by blowing your nose afterwards. But....I have an acceptable LVG cowl shape to show for it Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:02:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Modeling in a Wierd Place Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475BA3@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Peter, > Shane...>> about 800' underground at the moment. << > > That seems rather a severe punishment Shane. What have you > been doing? I work for a mining company. For my sins, my masters have decided I should do a complete review of our data comms infrastructure. I am still trying to convince them this should include our German, UK, USA, and Argentine operations as well as all those deep dirty holes. Gravesend is a *lot* closer to Shuttleworth than the coal washplant I'm sitting in at the moment, and clearly I should need at least a week to acclimatise and learn the native dialects before travelling to deepest Kent! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:33:49 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FSM Ambivalence Message-ID: <37F1424D.BFE00910@ionet.net> John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > I suspect that part of the problem might be a lack of good authors. A > couple of years ago, FSM was begging for authors, promising substancial > cash amounts for articles that were accepted. I don't want to commit the > time to do such an article, so I don't want to criticize FSM too much. Finally someone else hit it on the head first. Guys and gals if you're not happy with what's in FSM SUBMIT SOMETHING BETTER!!! I agree that I'm disappointed in what they've been doing, and I was sceptical of most of the articles from the first issue. But unless YOU can do better don't slam too hard. The publishers bent over backwards to clean up edit and re-photograph my one small published article, and they still paid me $125.00 for it. "Making waves the easy way" FSM December 1996. Tom Solinski ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:37:08 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modeling in a Wierd Place Message-ID: <19990928.180756.-25637.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:27:25 -0400 (EDT) "dfernet0" writes: > Good point. Tomorrow I'll bring my modelling implements here in the > office. > Imagine how much can I do 8 hours a day! :-) Been there...done that...then they gave me a new job... :-( Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:44:34 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 mailing list Message-ID: <19990928.180756.-25637.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Mike Fletcher writes: > The Germans also did some excellent drawings of captured machines, > and 3 > of four panels of a set of drawings of the 17 exist - they may have > done > some of the 28 that haven't surfaced yet. Don't forget about the Hardesty drawings. From appearances they seem to be quite accurate for the Nie.17. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:10:46 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475BA4@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Peter, > It may be my imagination but I really think the modelling > community has > taken to the internet in a big big way. My first inclination was to say "imagination". Then I looked at my mail address list for Riverside Scale Model Club and note that 2/3 of the members are on the net. Given that I have read that Australia has the 2nd highest internet penetration in the world, I wonder why this should surprise me? Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:40:39 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web page ideas Message-ID: <19990928.180756.-25637.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Allan Wright writes: > Hmmmm - they seam great to me. It's the best non-image content added > to > the site in the last year. I'd say start on Spad now that you've > done > all those Nieuport pages..... You and Mike F. are on the same wavelength. I shall do so after... One item I am definitely adding. To each model on the model pages, I'm adding a review "link" if I know one exists. For example, I'm adding David S.'s Bre.14, Mike F.'s Hora Nie.24/27 "First Looks", etc. So, if anybody knows of a review for a kit, please send me the URL. If there are multiples, then I pick what I think is best and go from there. :-) Just about finished the Bre.14 differences, and have most of the pages up to HTML 4 standards. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:47:25 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another dud(sorta) from FSM Message-ID: <19990928.180756.-25637.5.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:55:20 -0400 (EDT) "DAVID BURKE" writes: > With the advent of SAMI and its increased prominence here in the > U.S., > FSM has out-lived its usefulness to me. I can think of at least two > reasons: 1) SAMI is British, and they actually used their own A/C in > the > Great War, and had their own territory attacked. Thus a more > comprehensive > understanding of involvement in the conflict (their writers are a > hell of a > lot better too and their build-up articles rule). WW1 is actually SAMI's weekest area. I don't like any of their WW1 reviews or build-ups. Two stand out in mind as horrid - the review of the Toko Nie.11 (why two of them?) and the build-up of the Eduard/Flashback MoS Type I. And we won't even get into their handling of GPW VVS... However, overall I do really enjoy SAMI more than FSM. I let my subscription lapse last year, and don't regret it at all. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:09:58 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FSM Ambivalence Message-ID: <19990928.181003.-25637.7.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Tom Solinski writes: > Finally someone else hit it on the head first. Guys and gals if > you're not > happy with what's in FSM SUBMIT SOMETHING BETTER!!! I agree that > I'm > disappointed in what they've been doing, and I was sceptical of most > of the > articles from the first issue. But unless YOU can do better don't > slam too > hard. The publishers bent over backwards to clean up edit and > re-photograph > my one small published article, and they still paid me $125.00 for > it. I have tried. I have a 'tweener article all ready to go, and they rejected it. :-P to them! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:14:28 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dennis U - The Challenge! Message-ID: <37F14BD4.FCDA743A@ptdprolog.net> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > On this subject, how big is the biggest known on topic collection? > Anyone know? > > I met a guy...name long forgotten at the OTF convention in Ottawa who > had over 1,000 if I remember correctly. He was a contractor and had built a > shed in the back yard to house all the unmade kits. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:27:01 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Reference book technology, was: Another dud(sorta)... Message-ID: <4f25908b.2522a8c5@aol.com> (Thought it was time to give FSM a break and change the name of this thread) << Well, with the pace of technology the way it is, I can forsee "book computers" coming out, which incorporate a flat screen and a small processor in a book-sized form. >> They are already working on an electronic portable book - looks sort of like those electronic report pads you see on Star Trek (for those who watch it). It still doesnt "feel" right in the hands, apparently, but it does address the portability problem. Another interesting aspect is that you would purchase the "book" and download it into the pad you already own, but early testing with human guinea pigs revealed that people want to actually obtain "something" tangible when they buy a book - they are left unsatisfied with paying their money and only getting a download in return. Again, probably just a case of getting people used to it. One fabulous advantage to this technology - if you have difficulty with small print, you can change the font size instantly and read the letters as large as you want them, you just turn "pages" more often that way. And I really like Chris's description of modelling and technical subjects on such technology.... zooming in..... enlarging.... Also, how about a link from the mention of a particular product (aftermarket wheels, for example) to a detailed description of the product used and where it might be obtained. Lots of commerical possibilities there and, if I see a model I would like to build, I dont mind having a link that will take me to the page where the aftermarket parts are being sold - my choice to click on the link or not. Still seems too high-tech to take to the john....er....dave, though. Dave Z. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1887 **********************