WWI Digest 1869 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by "DAVID BURKE" 2) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by Albatrosdv@aol.com 4) Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? by "Mike" 5) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? by Albatrosdv@aol.com 7) RE: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by Shane Weier 8) RE: Words of wisdom from Sir Ross Smith by Shane Weier 9) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by "Sandy Adam" 10) New WS & DF by "Sandy Adam" 11) Re: New WS & DF by "PETER LEONARD" 12) Re: New WS & DF by Matthew E Bittner 13) Re: New WS & DF by "Bob Pearson" 14) Re: New WS & DF by "PETER LEONARD" 15) Re: New WS & DF by "Sandy Adam" 16) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by Michael Kendix 17) Re: New WS & DF by "Lance Krieg" 18) Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? by Sharon Henderson 19) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by "Sandy Adam" 20) Re: New WS & DF by KarrArt@aol.com 21) Good Service or What? by "PETER LEONARD" 22) Re: Good Service or What? by "Lance Krieg" 23) Re: Good Service or What? by "PETER LEONARD" 24) Tootsie Roll?????? by "dfernet0" 25) Re: Tootsie Roll?????? by Allan Wright 26) Re: Tootsie Roll?????? by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: Tootsie Roll?????? by "Lance Krieg" 28) RE: Tootsie Roll?????? by "dfernet0" 29) Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? by "DAVID BURKE" 30) Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:16:31 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: <004401bf0327$e5a70780$1b82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >Before you go spending extra time or money replacing these bits, why not >e-mail Pegasus and say, "Hey Jamoke, send me these bits!" Pegasus? Are they the importer? I got 'em from Squadron. DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:33:21 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: <37E5C721.77C4@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > Pegasus? Are they the importer? I got 'em from Squadron. Pegasus is the mfg. Try this; http://www.pegasusmodels.com/ Bon apetit` E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:43:52 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: <991b7a58.25172398@aol.com> In a message dated 99-09-20 01:34:08 EDT, you write: << DAVID BURKE wrote: > Pegasus? Are they the importer? I got 'em from Squadron. Pegasus is the mfg. Try this; http://www.pegasusmodels.com/ Bon apetit` E. >> Or e-mail Chris Gannon direct at: chris@pegasusmodels.com Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:46:21 -0700 From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? Message-ID: <004001bf0344$9e0a5540$548c3ace@default> This might be the reason for the yellow tail as on LvR's Dr.1.... I bet it really got a bug up ole' fat boy's behind flying something that was not "pimpmobile" white.... have to check into this aircraft further, might want to do one someday.... Mike Dicianna "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > Also supposedly earmarked for LvR, but he retired hurt. > > > Peter Leonard > > > > >Supoosedly that is Goering's aircraft while OC of JG.I > > > >Bob > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:53:56 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/19/99 10:06:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, peter_leonard@hotmail.com writes: << As I recall BOTH lower wings SHOULD have a twist at the root. >> yep- the ol' extreme Halb warpy warpy washout. Trailing edge like a goat belly full of kittens. (I mean it "sags" in the middle) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:22:07 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? Message-ID: <5c6e88cc.25172c8f@aol.com> In a message dated 99-09-20 01:48:56 EDT, you write: << This might be the reason for the yellow tail as on LvR's Dr.1.... I bet it really got a bug up ole' fat boy's behind flying something that was not "pimpmobile" white.... >> You are looking at Hermann Goering with 20-20 hindsight. At the time, he was a respected officer, who was viewed by some as a bit of a martinet, but no one doubted his skill at his job. And in those days, he wasn't even slightly over-weight, so "fat boy" doesn't apply - that didn't happen until he became a drug addict after the crash in Sweden in 1924. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:11:05 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475B68@mimhexch.mim.com.au> David, > Also, not only is there a wing ripple on the Halberstadt's > wings, but one > wing root has a twist near the trailing edge. That's a problem. *Both* wings should have a twist in the TE near the root. FWIW my BM kits - two Camels, SPAD 7, Nie-28 and Pfalz D.XII are all complete and warping, ripples etc are absent. Since I buy direct I had no chance to shop around for "good" copies so must just be lucky. 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E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:02:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Words of wisdom from Sir Ross Smith Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475B67@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom, > The aeroplane is the nearest thing to animate life that man > has created. > In the air a machine ceases indeed to be a mere piece of > mechanism; it > becomes animate and is capable not only of primary guidance > and control, > but actually of expressing a pilot's temperament. > > -- Sir Ross Smith, K.B.E., 'National Geographic Magazine,' March 1921. So was he talking about the Vimy, or his Biff (the one mine is modelled on ;-) or or another aircraft altogether? 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Any problems, missing bits etc - mail CG direct on chris@pegasusmodels.com He will send replacement bits out asap, free, internationally. 2 - One of my Camels also had the wrong crankcase - from a Dr1 or Nie11 or something. I spoke to CG at last years Nats and had new 9cyl crankcase in the post within a few days. 3 - What's wrong with the Camel cowling? Or the props? They look OK to me. 4 - Seems to be kick Chris Gannon day today. I have no reason to support the guy particularly, except as a happy customer. He is a bit too sure of his own opinion sometimes but I'm not perfect either. The wing ripples are a pain in the bum, but you cannot complain about a Camel kit that gives you enough bits to let you build terrific models of both an F.1 and a 2F.1 with only a few extra bits from the spares box. 5 - Mould -gates and Ripple apart, I think the quality is pretty good and the range of subjects excellent. His ability to actually get the kits out is pretty impressive too. While Aeroclub, Glencoe or Sierra announce kits five years before they actually appear (if they ever do!), BM actually make the damn things they say they will make, when they said they would make them! 6 - Price - You can buy BM kits in the US for exactly the same price as I do here in the UK - post free - see the BM web page. How Squadron justify "imported" prices on BM I have no idea - presumably they buy at same trade price as UK dealers, but choose to slap on a higher markup. Don't blame Chris Gannon for that. I've seen so much slagging over the cost of BM kits but none about other, dearer, kits such as CSM. All you guys who say you will buy the CSM Gotha - I suggest you get an idea of the price first - at $75 for a scout, I fear $200 for a Gotha. Forgive me Eric I do not wish to insult you or the fine kits you make - and I speak as a happy CSM customer too - but the BM SE5a, Snipe, Dolphin, etc will/do cost $36 each (CG ships direct worldwide post free at that price) - the CSM equivalents cost either $65 or $75 each. Now CSM are fine kits and include PE - but they are no more perfect than BM. (I spent $99 on the big HB floatplane and it has severe warping problems on wings and tail. The fuselage has some minor mismoulding too.) BUT...I expect this of short run kits - and will buy more CSM, TC, Tom's, Sierra and BM kits to get the subjects. We can't hold CSM (nice - with faults, but very expensive) up as a paradigm though while crucifying BM (nice - with faults, but moderately expensive) in the same breath! FWIW Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:48:07 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: New WS & DF Message-ID: <005801bf034d$578bad40$05e8b094@sandyada> While typing my tirade about BM (in my home office), my wife came up the stairs and handed me a mail package with the latest WS 15/5 and DF - 77 Albatros C.VII - end of work for rest of morning! The Brian Knight painting on the DFcover will cause comment I'm sure - three colour camouflage on a C.VII. DF is up to usual standard - no interiors unfortunately though. WS has interesting article that appears to prove Pfalz logo as generally interpreted - and used on Canberra Pfalz, is actually wrong - seems to have a swooping bird in background rather than houses. Lots of product reviews, Build of Toko Pfalz, plans for Curtiss MF flying boat and Archive on Br14. But - the point of this message - DF announcements for next year - 79 - Rumpler C.I 80 - Sopwith LCT (single seat bomber Strutter) 81 - Albatros C.V 82 - Felixstowe F2a 83 - Gotha G.I 84 - Short 184 Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 03:09:47 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New WS & DF Message-ID: <19990920100948.21922.qmail@hotmail.com> Sandy, if you have yours mine must be waiting for me at home. Yum-yum! I had thought that RR was running out of really sexy subjects, he did the Camel, SE5/5a and every Fokker or Albatros known to man in the first 30 or so, but I'll not complain at a Felixtowe, a 184 and a G1 all in the same year. Payback for this year when the DH9 is the only one that blows my skirt up. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:20:09 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New WS & DF Message-ID: <19990920.052328.-194087.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:50:21 -0400 (EDT) "Sandy Adam" writes: > But - the point of this message - DF announcements for next year - > 79 - Rumpler C.I > 80 - Sopwith LCT (single seat bomber Strutter) > 81 - Albatros C.V > 82 - Felixstowe F2a > 83 - Gotha G.I > 84 - Short 184 I'm just ranting here. The only title with anything French *could be* the LCT. Grrr... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 03:36:45 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New WS & DF Message-ID: <199909201045.DAA28864@mail.rapidnet.net> Sandy writes . .. > But - the point of this message - DF announcements for next year - > 82 - Felixstowe F2a Geez, we better hurry up and get the FMP British books out so my profiles of it are published first. ... but in case we don't, I did 12 of them almost 2 years ago ..... Bob (shivering in his boots .. uh shorts ...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 03:43:21 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New WS & DF Message-ID: <19990920104323.38732.qmail@hotmail.com> Calm yourself Matt. French subjects ARE a bit of a bindspot when it comes to Datafiles (as they are with mainstream manufacturers outside of SPADs an Nieuports)but at least we have a Breguet special to look forward to. 'Till then, you really should try de-caf Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:16:52 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: New WS & DF Message-ID: <00b601bf0359$a5268140$05e8b094@sandyada> Oh yes - Specials next Year brings Fokker D.VII part II (YAAAAAAWWWNNNNNNNNN!!!) DH4 (Yippee!) and Sikorsky "Veh" (Hurrahhhhhh!) Sandy -----Original Message----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 20 September 1999 11:47 Subject: Re: New WS & DF >Calm yourself Matt. French subjects ARE a bit of a bindspot when it comes to >Datafiles (as they are with mainstream manufacturers outside of SPADs an >Nieuports)but at least we have a Breguet special to look forward to. 'Till >then, you really should try de-caf > >Peter Leonard >IPMS UK >Lancashire & Cheshire Branch >http://www.storks.cwc.net >http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com >PeterL@cwcom.net > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:09:27 EDT From: Michael Kendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: <19990920.100424.7367.2.mkendix@juno.com> On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:49:56 -0400 (EDT) "Sandy Adam" writes: > >6 - Price - You can buy BM kits in the US for exactly the same price as I do >here in the UK - post free - see the BM web page. How Squadron justify >"imported" prices on BM I have no idea - presumably they buy at same trade >price as UK dealers, but choose to slap on a higher markup. Don't blame >Chris Gannon for that. > Sandy: Please can you clarify something for me. Does the same price apply to non-European Union (EU) countires despite the absence of the 17% VAT on these sales? If so, he's charging 17% for Shipping and handling to non-EU locations. Michael ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:35:46 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: New WS & DF Message-ID: Sandy and the rest of the UK crowd got: "... a mail package with the latest WS 15/5 and DF - 77 Albatros C.VII" while those of us in the hinterlands of North America only got WS 15/4 within the last two weeks. Maybe I should have paid for the airmail.... While I'm bitching about the post, I've been waiting over a month for the large order I'm expecting from FMP, and over two months for my MasterClub Voisin LAS. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:40:10 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? Message-ID: Hi folks, two thoughts on this: 1) LvR didn't retire injured. He flew injured, like so many of them on both sides. The Air Service, regardless of side or country, was pretty much seen as a place where otherwise excellent officers with some kind of physical disability, who in other days would have been sent home to recuperate and later, if lucky, command home guard units. Lothar was in command of J. 11 until the end of the war, excepting those times when he was in hospital or home on leave. But he did have phenomenally bad luck with crashes, I must say.... > This might be the reason for the yellow tail as on LvR's Dr.1.... > I bet it really got a bug up ole' fat boy's behind flying something > that was not "pimpmobile" white.... > >You are looking at Hermann Goering with 20-20 hindsight. At the time, >he was a respected officer, who was viewed by some as a bit of a >martinet, but no one doubted his skill at his job. And in those days, >he wasn't even slightly over-weight, so "fat boy" doesn't apply - that >didn't happen until he became a drug addict after the crash in Sweden >in 1924. > >Tom Cleaver Yes, all true, but we also need to be careful not to apply 20-20 sidesight to Goering, either. When he took command of JG 1, everyone was surprised, and only a few were pleased. He had a small victory list, and little higher command/ace notoriety experience, and there were at *least* a handful of folks in the JG itself who would have been MUCH better choices. But Goering had the patronage of Bruno Loerzer and Lowenhardt, and that is perhaps why he got the job more than anything else. There were lots of folks more skilled at the whole piloting thing, much less the command-of-multiple-units thing. As for his being liked, I offer this interesting example: in the postwar years, Goering was not allowed to join the officer's organization of veterans of the JG, until after Lothar was dead in 1922. Bodenschatz and Udet both tried to change LvR's mind -- but Lothar intensely disliked Goering, and blackballed him. The dislike between them stems from the wartime era, too, not Goering's infant political leanings in the early '20's So we need to be careful all around, because the interpretation of fact is a dicey thing. :-) Also -- just to be really anal retentive about it all -- "pimp white" would not have been a concept back then. Pimps were not flashy people in those bad old days -- quite the opposite. Goering more than likely chose white as his color for a couple of reasons -- visibility, panache, and the association of white with heroes and valiant knights. Meine zwei Pfennig.... Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:38:43 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: <011401bf037e$3cbf5d00$05e8b094@sandyada> Hi Michael I believe CG offers to send BM or Pegasus kits anywhere in the world, shipping inclusive, for the equivalent of the UK VAT-inclusive price. You can regard this as post-free, or as setting the 17.5% VAT against shipping. Either way you pay the exact dollar equivalent that I pay here, to get any number of kits or decals sent door-to-door (as long as your Customs don't take their bite). If anybody feels that CG is making an unfair profit by charging the VAT price everywhere, then don't buy direct. Buy from Squadron and pay them a 50% markup instead. Sandy > >Please can you clarify something for me. Does the same price apply to >non-European Union (EU) countires despite the absence of the 17% VAT on >these sales? If so, he's charging 17% for Shipping and handling to >non-EU locations. > >Michael > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:42:54 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New WS & DF Message-ID: In a message dated 9/20/99 7:37:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lance.krieg@amerus.com writes: << Sandy and the rest of the UK crowd got: "... a mail package with the latest WS 15/5 and DF - 77 Albatros C.VII" while those of us in the hinterlands of North America only got WS 15/4 within the last two weeks. Maybe I should have paid for the airmail.... Lance >> I haven't subscribed to WS or the DF series in over ten years, but I haven't missed a one. I get mine at a local shop- the guy holds 'em back for me- he's happy, I'm happy...but I tend to get my hands on 'em a bit later than everybody- the shop gets them pretty early- it's just me that dawdles about getting myself to the shop. Anyway- I'm still digesting 15/4- what's grabbed my attention so far is the piece about the Fokker D.VII dissected by Boeing- here's a plane that's become so omnipresent and almost boring, it's difficult to see anything new- but along comes this short article........... The plane in question is a late production example and among features I've never been aware of are double rudder cables and horns- a few other details are different also. It just goes to show that even stuff you thought you knew is subject to change. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:07:57 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Good Service or What? Message-ID: <19990920180757.80980.qmail@hotmail.com> As well as finding my Windsock and Datafile waiting for me when I got home there was also my package from Aviation Usk. It contained, Wings 48 Salmson 2A2, Wings 48 Tommy, current Aviation Usk catalogue....... and a Tootsie Roll!!!! This is a level of service other suppliers would do well to emulate ;�) Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:34:27 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Good Service or What? Message-ID: Peter got: " Wings 48 Tommy.......and a Tootsie Roll!!!!" There's probably some arcane restrictions on the Tootsie Roll, and Her Majesty's customs people are closing in on you now. Before they haul you off to Dartmoor or wherever they send you malefactors these days, is the Tommy as nice as the Salmson? That Salmson decal sheet is worth the price of the kit... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:42:16 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Good Service or What? Message-ID: <19990920184216.90759.qmail@hotmail.com> Lance, both look V-good, and you're right about the decals. If I didn't have so much on my plate already I'd be at one or other of 'em. HM Customs and Excise blew it, I hid the evidence somewhere they'll never find it, not without an endescope anyway. Peter Leonard >From: "Lance Krieg" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Good Service or What? >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:34:44 -0400 (EDT) > >Peter got: > >" Wings 48 Tommy.......and a Tootsie Roll!!!!" > >There's probably some arcane restrictions on the Tootsie Roll, and Her >Majesty's customs people are closing in on you now. > >Before they haul you off to Dartmoor or wherever they send you malefactors >these days, is the Tommy as nice as the Salmson? > >That Salmson decal sheet is worth the price of the kit... > >Lance > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:45:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Tootsie Roll?????? Message-ID: <003901bf0398$4468e2a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sorry folks, but what's a "Tootsie roll"? having seen a movie called "Tootsie" of a guy who wears a costume and considering the roll shaped attributes of mr. Dustin Hoffman, such an object must be a very rare piece of Hollywood memorabilia... or I'm wrong? D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:48:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tootsie Roll?????? Message-ID: <199909201848.OAA08680@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Sorry folks, but what's a "Tootsie roll"? having seen a movie called > "Tootsie" of a guy who wears a costume and considering the roll shaped > attributes of mr. Dustin Hoffman, such an object must be a very rare piece > of Hollywood memorabilia... or I'm wrong? > D. A "Tootsie roll" is a chocolate candy, cylendrical in shape, about 2cm in diammeter and 5-7cm in length. The consistency is chewey, not like regular chocolate. They're rolled up in wax paper, maybe the source of the name. -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:52:45 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tootsie Roll?????? Message-ID: <45f535f1.2517dc7d@aol.com> In a message dated 99-09-20 14:47:19 EDT, you write: << Sorry folks, but what's a "Tootsie roll"? having seen a movie called "Tootsie" of a guy who wears a costume and considering the roll shaped attributes of mr. Dustin Hoffman, such an object must be a very rare piece of Hollywood memorabilia... or I'm wrong? D. >> It is a *very* chewy chocolate candy bar - the kind that can easily remove teeth while masticating. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:53:05 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Tootsie Roll?????? Message-ID: Diego inquires: "...but what's a "Tootsie roll"?" Good heavens, the Argentines are deprived! A small chocolate-flavored candy costing a few American cents. You're not missing much... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:58:16 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Tootsie Roll?????? Message-ID: <00ed01bf039a$19735920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Allan, Tom, Lance thanks! that expression frightened me for a while. Oh the disadvantages of being a non-english speaker and having a crooked imagination! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:44:52 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? Message-ID: <005c01bf039a$0709e880$2062c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 1:23 AM Subject: Re: print on ebay....who's aircraft? >In a message dated 99-09-20 01:48:56 EDT, you write: > ><< > This might be the reason for the yellow tail as on LvR's Dr.1.... I bet it > really got a bug up ole' fat boy's behind flying something that was not > "pimpmobile" white.... >> > >You are looking at Hermann Goering with 20-20 hindsight. At the time, he was >a respected officer, who was viewed by some as a bit of a martinet, but no >one doubted his skill at his job. And in those days, he wasn't even slightly >over-weight, so "fat boy" doesn't apply - that didn't happen until he became >a drug addict after the crash in Sweden in 1924. > >Tom Cleaver Perhaps this is true, and I agree that Goering was viewed as a capable officer, but the recent Military Illustrated issue on his victory claims raises some interesting questions, especially when one considers that Germany's air forces have ALWAYS been the most difficult when it comes to proof of victories - IIRC, at least two of three conditions must be met to warrant a confirmed victory. Several of his claims can be directly disputed as either no Allied A/C were in the sector in question, or that no Allied A/C were lost on that day. Obviously there would have to be some collusion with other officers in the system, and apparently this did happen. In short, at the time of the Great War, Goering had yet to become fat, dope addicted, or affect the mannerisms of dress and behavior suitable to the greatest of drag queens - but he apparently was a liar, and that's usually how evil begins.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:54:35 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? Message-ID: <005d01bf039a$0a266ac0$2062c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Sandy, O.K. Point well taken. And I had no Idea that I could get 'em direct from Pegasus at a cheaper rate. I like the subjects too (although something a little clearer than an exploded diagram would be nice for the Camel, it's hard to see some of the stuff). I'll tell you what: I'll save the rest of my bitching until I either A: Contact Mr. Gannon, or B: finish the kit (and the kit generally does look good - no ripples). I like the surface detail and I got the fuselage together and it lined up very nicely. I have yet to worry about the engine, and I still wonder what was inferred about the cowl. If anyone can elaborate on that, please do. DB -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:51 AM Subject: Re: Blue Max, proof of drugs in the workplace? >1 - Blue max have as good an after-sales service as any company I have ever >dealt with - and considerably better than most. Any problems, missing bits >etc - mail CG direct on chris@pegasusmodels.com He will send replacement >bits out asap, free, internationally. > >2 - One of my Camels also had the wrong crankcase - from a Dr1 or Nie11 or >something. I spoke to CG at last years Nats and had new 9cyl crankcase in >the post within a few days. > >3 - What's wrong with the Camel cowling? Or the props? They look OK to me. > >4 - Seems to be kick Chris Gannon day today. I have no reason to support the >guy particularly, except as a happy customer. He is a bit too sure of his >own opinion sometimes but I'm not perfect either. The wing ripples are a >pain in the bum, but you cannot complain about a Camel kit that gives you >enough bits to let you build terrific models of both an F.1 and a 2F.1 with >only a few extra bits from the spares box. > >5 - Mould -gates and Ripple apart, I think the quality is pretty good and >the range of subjects excellent. His ability to actually get the kits out is >pretty impressive too. While Aeroclub, Glencoe or Sierra announce kits five >years before they actually appear (if they ever do!), BM actually make the >damn things they say they will make, when they said they would make them! > >6 - Price - You can buy BM kits in the US for exactly the same price as I do >here in the UK - post free - see the BM web page. How Squadron justify >"imported" prices on BM I have no idea - presumably they buy at same trade >price as UK dealers, but choose to slap on a higher markup. Don't blame >Chris Gannon for that. > >I've seen so much slagging over the cost of BM kits but none about other, >dearer, kits such as CSM. All you guys who say you will buy the CSM Gotha - >I suggest you get an idea of the price first - at $75 for a scout, I fear >$200 for a Gotha. > >Forgive me Eric I do not wish to insult you or the fine kits you make - and >I speak as a happy CSM customer too - but the BM SE5a, Snipe, Dolphin, etc >will/do cost $36 each (CG ships direct worldwide post free at that price) - >the CSM equivalents cost either $65 or $75 each. Now CSM are fine kits and >include PE - but they are no more perfect than BM. (I spent $99 on the big >HB floatplane and it has severe warping problems on wings and tail. The >fuselage has some minor mismoulding too.) > >BUT...I expect this of short run kits - and will buy more CSM, TC, Tom's, >Sierra and BM kits to get the subjects. We can't hold CSM (nice - with >faults, but very expensive) up as a paradigm though while crucifying BM >(nice - with faults, but moderately expensive) in the same breath! >FWIW >Sandy > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1869 **********************