WWI Digest 1845 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Big DVa by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: Young Indy by Scottfking@aol.com 3) Re: Judging by Fernando Lamas 4) Re: Davilla's French ac book by "Len Smith" 5) Re: Davilla's French ac book by "PETER LEONARD" 6) Re: Davilla's French ac book by "WALTER H. APPEL" 7) Re: Davilla's French ac book by "PETER LEONARD" 8) MvR's SPANDAUs by Dave Watts 9) I'lya advice sought by smperry@mindspring.com 10) The Bog Standard Kit by "PETER LEONARD" 11) RE: Big DVa by "John C Glaser" 12) RE: Big DVa by "John C Glaser" 13) Re: Big DVa by Michael Kendix 14) Stuck to the ceiling (was BIG Alb) by "PETER LEONARD" 15) Re: Davilla's French ac book by Matthew E Bittner 16) Re: Big DVa by BEN8800@aol.com 17) Re: Davilla's French ac book by Zulis@aol.com 18) Ceiling mounted aircraft (was Re: Big DVa) by "Bob Pearson" 19) Re: Big DVa by "Bruce Kauffman" 20) Re: Ceiling mounted aircraft (was Re: Big DVa) by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Davilla's French ac book by "Len Smith" 22) Re: Davilla's French ac book by "Len Smith" 23) RE: Eduard released by "Lubos Vinar" 24) Re: Davilla's French ac book by Matthew E Bittner 25) Blue Max's SE5a and Bristol Fighter by CTJDavies@aol.com 26) printers wasRe: Davilla's French ac book by KarrArt@aol.com 27) Re: Blue Max's SE5a and Bristol Fighter by Albatrosdv@aol.com 28) Re: I'lya advice sought by roguerpj ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:49:28 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Big DVa Message-ID: <37D9ED68.4B45@bellsouth.net> Bruce Kauffman wrote: > If you have any questions about the model airways DVa I'll do my best to > answer them. Was it fun? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:16:08 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Young Indy Message-ID: In a message dated 9/10/99 5:36:31 AM EST, mbittner@juno.com writes: << ! BTW, was that monster 3 > winged bomber > just a wet dream or what? >> Yeah, I thought about it again today. Looked kinda like a Lloyd triplane (40.15) on steroids, except I couldn't figure out how many engines it had (6?). That young Indy was a heck of a man, single handedly wiped out the Kriegsmarine and Luftstreitkrafte's Zeppelins and Riesenflugzeuge. And under the noses of MvR and A. Fokker, too! (I only saw the last five minutes or so) Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:36:55 -0700 From: Fernando Lamas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Judging Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990910233655.00937100@olympus.net> At 02:18 AM 7/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >"So you guys in CA come up, everyone at points north come down, and we all >make Seattle wish Mt. Rainier erupted instead." > >Yeah! > >James D. Gray >Bremerton, Washington > I've lived in California and I now live in Washington. It's a lot prettier up here. Besides, Seattle is a one hour drive and a 30 minute ferry ride from my house. And, if I go to California, my wife will make me visit my in-laws. Fernando Lamas Port Townsend, Washington ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 07:51:02 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <000e01befc22$272cfd20$275c08c3@default> Dave, When this book first came out it received rave reviews from everyone, a truly massive tome. But in my experience it should be treated with a great deal of reserve. I like building models of French aircraft, the more unusual the better, so I bought it . So far I have built a Ponnier M1 and a Morane Saulnier BB, using the book as one of my references. The Ponnier is stated to have as its most noticeable feature >an immense cone de penetration<, but the photos clearly show that this is a spinner instead. The BB is stated to have unequal span wings, although the photos do not bear this out. Even worse is the drawing, showing the cabane struts being almost vertical when in fact they shoud be a further rib bay out on each side, as shown in the photos. Nit picking ? I don't think so, in my opinion a book costing £60 over here should be a more reliable source of reference and should not contain such errors. I don't know whether these are the result of sloppy research or sloppy editing, but in either case I am disappointed. I think the book is useful, providing you have a sufficiently large library to back it up, and a wide enough experience to spot the errors. Apologies for going on a bit. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 4:43 AM Subject: Davilla's French ac book > > For those who are still without this one, Davilla's book on French aircraft > is being sold on ebay, currently the price is at $29 with 16 hours to go in > the auction. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=157922669 > > Of course, I would be bidding - but I ordered this thing from FMP almost two > months ago, they still havent got around to sending it to me, but I can > safely assume that 15 minutes after picking up the ebay book the one I > ordered from them would arrive at my door. > > Regards, > > Dave Z > Grumbling in Toronto > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:26:35 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <19990911072635.65182.qmail@hotmail.com> Len, I'm with you on most of that, but I still wouldn't be without my copy. The problem with some of the drawings, I think, is that they come from such a wide range of already existing sources and few were actualy commissioned for the book. As a result the drawings are of variable quality and accuracy and, as you say, this is a dissappointment in view of the price. However, I'd still rather have a drawing which I know to be innaccurate and can correct than no drawing and no model. I based my Caudron on a rework of the FMP drawing, and I know I'll get a load more models out of it before I'm done. Peter Leonard IPMS UK (up t'North) Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:06:02 -0400 From: "WALTER H. APPEL" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <37D8BBEA.6E30@erols.com> Jeez folks... Why are you waiting for a publisher to send a book in a timely manner (three months is the norm) when you can save the same money by going to http://www.scholarsbookshelf.com and pay the same sales price, for which it has been since, like, February and get it in about a week? For anyone who has bothered to read this far before hitting the delete button, I picked up Austro-Hungarian Aircraft at that site for thirty bucks less than list price about four months ago before the publisher even thought about a sale. You can also try http://www.Hamiltonbooks.com They have also had it at a reasonable price since last year. Sorry to jump back into the star chamber uninvited. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:19:02 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <19990911081902.89609.qmail@hotmail.com> >>Sorry to jump back into the star chamber uninvited.<< Shoot! I never had an invite either! Do I have to turn in my keyboard? You're not getting my twirly chair, no way no how! Thanks for thos URL's Walt, two more for my little black book. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:46:04 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: MvR's SPANDAUs Message-ID: <199909110949.EAA25878@ind.cioe.com> Hi all, If anyone could be kind enough to give me the serial numbers for MvR's Spandau guns from 425/17, it would be most appreciated. I have made up a paper on the Spandau guns, (which I've sent to those of you who have requested it), and it's going to printed in WW1 Aero, but I want to be sure of the serial numbers I listed for 425/17. Here are some sources that I can quote, which put me into this dilemma. In the paperback copy of, "Who Killed The Red Baron" by Carisella & Ryan, and on page 209 it states; "Carisella says that parts of the Spandaus (#695 & #1795) are in Australia and Canada. He possesses one of the locks from the #1795 weapon. Its firing pin is broken." In Cross & Cockade Great Britain Journal Vol.6 No.3 1975, and it contains conflicting information. On page 111 and 113, "TRANSCRIPT 2", it states that the gun numbers are, "Spandau 650 @ 1795". Then on page 117, "TRANSCRIPT 6", it states, "GUNS. Two Spandau, nos 1795 and 659,". This gives me gun number 1795 and for the second gun I have the choices of either 650, 659, or 695. I tend to believe TRANSCRIPT 6, but was thrown off when the Carisella book stated 695. I'm sure if it was a case of simply transposing the numbers, but then who is transposing the numbers?....Carisella, or the person who type set the information for the Cross and Cockade article, or is it a typo in the Carisella book, or did Carisella find a second more reliable source? Maybe I'm giving Carisella too much credit. I tended to believe his data since he was a real student of Richthofen, but on second thought he probably made the error. What's your opinion? If you can assist in confirming what the correct numbers are, I would be most appreciative, and if you could quote the other sources for the gun numbers. Very Best Wishes, Dave Watts PS: As I stated in my paper, I believe that both of these gun numbers would have had a small italics "a" following the serial number, signifying an abbreviation for 10,000. So that gun number 11,795 would be abbreviated to "1795a". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 06:45:22 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: I'lya advice sought Message-ID: <000501befc42$c093b7e0$d82c45cf@default> On an I'lya Type B, there is a structure atop the fuselage and immediately ahead of the rudder. It is a square frame mounted on four vertical posts and apparentlly used as a kingpost for much of the horizontal tailplane rigging. What color is this thing supposed to be? It appears from photos that it is steel tube, as there is one shot of it with 3 men standing in/around it. One fellow is half perched on it and doesn't look the least bit woried about it breaking. It looks about the same gray tone as the 3 officer's boots. Would this have been black or dark brown? Does anyone know if Igor had metal parts Japanned or otherwise treated with a substance of known color? Any help will be appreciated. sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:43:06 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The Bog Standard Kit Message-ID: <19990911114306.40912.qmail@hotmail.com> Sandy wrote: "..... Aeroclub who, he gleefully informed me worked out of a converted public toilet!!" Next time I build an Aeroclub kit I'll be sure to wash my hands afterwards :¬) Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 07:14:57 -0500 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Big DVa Message-ID: Shoot! I figured you'd be the guy to convert it to a D.II and half cover it! Or better yet, a D.IV! (yes, I did write D.IV - 160 hp geared Mercedes) And when it comes to Southern insect bites, chiggers and ticks are far preferable to fire ants. Nasty little creatures now heading north to avenge the lost cause of 1861 - 1865. Sorry, way OT but many of the great war tactics and innovations had their start in the war between the states. - JG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of KarrArt@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 12:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Big DVa In a message dated 9/10/99 8:47:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cnlduckwor@ninenet.com writes: << Peter Fedders brought his (unfinished) D.a over several months ago and the engine alone was enough to temp me but I've remained strong (so far)....... Actually given the amount of parts, laser cut, metal etc and the large size of the a/c model $119 seems like a bargin, I just can't see my wife letting me hang it over my bed like I did when I was 11 years old with my Aurora kits (dog fighting), Hey they looked great except the Scotch tape and sewing thread didn't hold them on the ceiling too long 8^). >> Oooooohhhhh this one has tempted me.......I'd probabaly waste a year sheeting up the fuselage, stitching the wings and then flying it around the room making "thbp thbpmthbp" noises before I hung it up in the ceiling. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 07:22:02 -0500 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Big DVa Message-ID: Actually, mine were suspended from a network of threads running from door jambs to window frames. Later replaced on ceiling during teenage (read testosterone) years with poster of Julie Christie followed by the fully naked Jane Fonda on the beach. I shoulda stuck with the airplanes! How many others had a Great War diorama on the bedroom ceiling? - JG In a message dated 9/10/99 8:47:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cnlduckwor@ninenet.com writes: Actually given the amount of parts, laser cut, metal etc and the large size of the a/c model $119 seems like a bargin, I just can't see my wife letting me hang it over my bed like I did when I was 11 years old with my Aurora kits (dog fighting), Hey they looked great except the Scotch tape and sewing thread didn't hold them on the ceiling too long 8^). >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:30:55 EDT From: Michael Kendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Big DVa Message-ID: <19990911.082628.4455.2.mkendix@juno.com> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:45:29 -0400 (EDT) "Charles and Linda Duckworth" writes: >I just can't see my wife letting >me hang it over my bed like I did when I was 11 years old with my >Aurora kits (dog fighting), Hey they looked great except the Scotch tape and >sewing thread didn't hold them on the ceiling too long 8^). Charlie: I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one. Once the shelves were covered with kits, I too resorted to this method of display in my 7'6" square bedroom (at least I had my own room). After the Short Sunderland fell down on me one night, I was more circumspect about where I placed these kits on the ceiling relative to my bed. Michael ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 05:36:19 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Stuck to the ceiling (was BIG Alb) Message-ID: <19990911123620.84232.qmail@hotmail.com> Who hung models from the ceiling? Didnt we all? My pride and joy was a UPC (I think) Martin M1, with the engines reversed and a single fin, painted to represent a Gotha. A similar fate befell the Frog DH60 Moth which, with a Camel undercarriage and a gun ring, was my German two seater. Ah the innocence of youth, but wasn't it fun? The question "what did you use to stick Jane Fonda to the ceiling?" will remain un-asked :) Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net >From: "John C Glaser" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: Big DVa >Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:21:48 -0400 (EDT) > >Actually, mine were suspended from a network of threads running from door >jambs to window frames. Later replaced on ceiling during teenage (read >testosterone) years with poster of Julie Christie followed by the fully >naked Jane Fonda on the beach. I shoulda stuck with the airplanes! > >How many others had a Great War diorama on the bedroom ceiling? > >- JG > > > >In a message dated 9/10/99 8:47:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >cnlduckwor@ninenet.com writes: > > Actually given the amount of parts, laser cut, metal etc and the large >size > of the a/c model $119 seems like a bargin, I just can't see my wife >letting > me hang it over my bed like I did when I was 11 years old with my Aurora > kits (dog fighting), Hey they looked great except the Scotch tape and >sewing > thread didn't hold them on the ceiling too long 8^). >> > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 07:51:17 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <19990911.075339.-70827.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:51:41 -0400 (EDT) "Len Smith" writes: > When this book first came out it received rave reviews from > everyone, a > truly massive tome. But in my experience it should be treated with > a great > deal of reserve. I like building models of French aircraft, the > more > unusual the better, so I bought it . So far I have built a > Ponnier M1 and > a Morane Saulnier BB, using the book as one of my references. The > Ponnier > is stated to have as its most noticeable feature >an immense cone de > penetration<, but the photos clearly show that this is a spinner > instead. > The BB is stated to have unequal span wings, although the photos do > not bear > this out. Even worse is the drawing, showing the cabane struts > being almost > vertical when in fact they shoud be a further rib bay out on each > side, as > shown in the photos. I for one would like to see pics of your French models!!! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:51:49 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Big DVa Message-ID: <61d0afe6.250bb875@aol.com> In a message dated 9/11/99 1:34:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kauffman@aone.com writes: << If you have any questions about the model airways DVa I'll do my best to answer them. Regards, Bruce Kauffman >> Since I wrote the instructions for the MA DVa, translating from terrible english translation (almost as bad as the Italian version), I would welcome any comments on the instructions as I am about to start the instructions for the new Nieuport 28 from the same guy in Italy. Mostly, I just ignored the original version since it was so bad and just wrote the instructions based on my review of the drawings and my experience building models. It is somewhat a difficult job because I don't have control of the drawings or drawings shown in the manual. They are all done when I get the thing. So I have to refer to whats there. On the DVa, Luigi the designer used different part numbers for the same part used in different locations. A little confusing. I asked that he not do that for the Nieuport, but I really don't know what he has done. The plans, etc. are coming to me this week hopefully. It comes at a time where I am in the middle of the Jenny, but have to take time out to do the Nieuport ass it has priority on the production schedule. Ben Lankford Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:45:19 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <8c481ab9.250bc4ff@aol.com> Cool! My little grumble actually led to something useful. Thank you, Len for your comments and Walter for the urls. Amazing how one can wander around the net for years and still not find everything. Regarding the inaccuracies in the book, I will print out Len's comments and put them inside the front cover, which is what I usually do with these little gems from list members. (You should see the wad of notes inside the cover of some Nowarra books and particularly the Longstreet book). However, there has long been such a lack of material about the French aircraft that I do not regret having ordered it (only the price). Now, to see what price those dealers Walt told us about have on the Imperial Russian book.... Thanks again, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:18:43 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Ceiling mounted aircraft (was Re: Big DVa) Message-ID: <199909111628.JAA03304@mail.rapidnet.net> Until I had to move about 5 years ago my bandroom ceiling had 40 1/72 aircraft on it .. the worst accident was my fully riggedy AIrfix/Blue Rider DH9 being shot down by an errant drum stick .. it would be the only fully rigged 1/72 aircraft I had. The fall from 7 feet up only cost the u/c which 7 years on still neds repair For anyone thinking about doing their own ceiling I recommend invisible thread CAed to normal pins. .. many hours of fun rearranging them I know have a bedroom of half again the square footage and am sorely tempted to put them up again. . however doing so may doom me to bachelorhood . . .. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:02:39 -0700 From: "Bruce Kauffman" To: Subject: Re: Big DVa Message-ID: <007001befc77$75032240$b7a0ded1@kauffman> I did enjoy building this model. Building the wings, fuselage and engine were alot of fun, putting on the top wing was kind of a pain in the ass. The N struts that attached to the fuselage were not the best castings. Getting the proper angle and symmetry of both of them (as viewed from the front as well as getting the proper angle of attack) required about fifty events of attaching them to the wing, putting them on the model, checking, bending just a smige, and repeating the process. It was such a critical part of the whole model that I let the model sit for a few weeks before I had to nerve to do the final epoxy job. But all-in-all, it results in a very satisfying model. If you enjoy working with wood you will enjoy this model. At least with shaping wood parts if you screw up you can start over with new wood, easily obtainable. What I'm finding with plastic models is, well its best to do it right the first time, unless you want to buy a whole new kit. BK ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:50 PM Subject: Re: Big DVa > Bruce Kauffman wrote: > > > If you have any questions about the model airways DVa I'll do my best to > > answer them. > > Was it fun? > E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:51:25 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ceiling mounted aircraft (was Re: Big DVa) Message-ID: <37DA969D.3298@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > I know have a bedroom of half again the square footage and am sorely tempted > to put them up again. . however doing so may doom me to bachelorhood . You mean I could have avoided all this by just hanging the models from the ceiling? damn. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:52:59 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <002f01befc7e$9ef3a8c0$eb5c08c3@default> Matt, most of my French aircraft are in the service of other countries, because of the lack of suitable Escadrille markings. However, the recent string on Alps printers has started me investigating if they are available over here. If they are then a rapid return to the Museum at Le Bourget is on the cards, for unless my failing memory deceives me the end wall of the Grand Gallery is covered with paintings of the markings. Watch this space. Regards Len.. PS. Before you ask E, Matt is refering to AIRCRAFT models. (I think) lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book > I for one would like to see pics of your French models!!! > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:53:05 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <003001befc7e$a05bc440$eb5c08c3@default> Peter, I agree with you, I wouldn't be without my copy now. Once I realised it was not as accurate as it should be I know to take extra care when using it. It still annoys me however!. Regards Len dahn sarf. PS love that bog standard kit. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book > Len, I'm with you on most of that, but I still wouldn't be without my copy. > The problem with some of the drawings, I think, is that they come from such > a wide range of already existing sources and few were actualy commissioned > for the book. As a result the drawings are of variable quality and accuracy > and, as you say, this is a dissappointment in view of the price. > > However, I'd still rather have a drawing which I know to be innaccurate and > can correct than no drawing and no model. I based my Caudron on a rework of > the FMP drawing, and I know I'll get a load more models out of it before I'm > done. > > Peter Leonard > IPMS UK (up t'North) > Lancashire & Cheshire Branch > http://www.storks.cwc.net > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > PeterL@cwcom.net > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:59:39 +0200 From: "Lubos Vinar" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Eduard released Message-ID: <199909111821.OAA17186@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi Diego, Alb. D.Va in 1/72 is a kit. Lubos > Hi Lubos > I didn't understood completely. Eduard will release an AlbDVa 1/72 kit or > a PE set for it, or both? In any case: Yipeeeeeeee! Hey, they should do a > Pfalz DIII and a Halb. DII in 1/72 as well! D. > Lubos Vinar vinar@atlas.cz http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 15:04:11 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <19990911.151138.-26035.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:54:23 -0400 (EDT) "Len Smith" writes: > Matt, most of my French aircraft are in the service of other > countries, > because of the lack of suitable Escadrille markings. However, the > recent > string on Alps printers has started me investigating if they are > available > over here. If they are then a rapid return to the Museum at Le > Bourget is > on the cards, for unless my failing memory deceives me the end wall > of the > Grand Gallery is covered with paintings of the markings. > Watch this space. Well, for all of those wanting to go the ALPS route, check out the new Epson printer: http://www.epson.com/printer/inkjet/styphoto1200/ Believe it or not, it's evern better than ALPS. This is what I was talking about when the thread was running about buying "The Artists" (as opposed to "The Artist") a printer. > PS. Before you ask E, Matt is refering to AIRCRAFT models. (I > think) Why, do you have more? ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:36:40 EDT From: CTJDavies@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Blue Max's SE5a and Bristol Fighter Message-ID: Have dug them both out of the closet as possibles for my next project (Aviatik D1 just about done). Any comments and input is appreciated. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:38:15 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: printers wasRe: Davilla's French ac book Message-ID: <660b2055.250c17b7@aol.com> In a message dated 9/11/99 1:16:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mbittner@juno.com writes: << Well, for all of those wanting to go the ALPS route, check out the new Epson printer: http://www.epson.com/printer/inkjet/styphoto1200/ Believe it or not, it's evern better than ALPS. >> I went to the site and looked it over- it still doesn't look like it's suitable for decals, seeming to print with the same old water soluable ink, plus no white. Am I missing something? Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:08:00 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max's SE5a and Bristol Fighter Message-ID: In a message dated 99-09-11 16:39:26 EDT, you write: << Subj: Blue Max's SE5a and Bristol Fighter Have dug them both out of the closet as possibles for my next project (Aviatik D1 just about done). Any comments and input is appreciated. Chris >> Watch out for the "wing ripple." 4 of the 5 S.E.5a's I have seen had it in upper or lower or both. I have yet to see a Bristol fighter that doesn't have it. You end up having to sand off that nice surface detail to get rid of it. If you lucked out, they will make up to look good. HTH Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:09:27 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I'lya advice sought Message-ID: <37DAD317.B4AABF10@black-hole.com> I have looked at the photo. Thank god one exists. I would say that it is a metal frame of some kind. Welded box tube?? this opens the gambit of possibilities. Interesting that the profiles in the book show brown (???). I would also guess they are part of the fuselage structure maybe the same color as these? Notice that the middle of the runs has a curious shape. Could the structure be wood runs with metal fittings to make to corner units. Similar to the corners on lg. moving trunks. I may not be any help but I am in the same dilemma:) Happily I might add. rob johnson smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > > On an I'lya Type B, there is a structure atop the fuselage and immediately > ahead of the rudder. It is a square frame mounted on four vertical posts and > apparentlly used as a kingpost for much of the horizontal tailplane rigging. > What color is this thing supposed to be? > > It appears from photos that it is steel tube, as there is one shot of it > with 3 men standing in/around it. One fellow is half perched on it and > doesn't look the least bit woried about it breaking. It looks about the same > gray tone as the 3 officer's boots. Would this have been black or dark > brown? Does anyone know if Igor had metal parts Japanned or otherwise > treated with a substance of known color? > > Any help will be appreciated. > > sp > > E-mail smperry@mindspring.com > Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1845 **********************