WWI Digest 1840

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
	by Allan Wright <aew>
  2) Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
  3) Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
	by "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
  4) Re: Death of Alan Clark
	by "Steve" <steve_schofield@ndirect.co.uk>
  5) Eduard released
	by "Lubos Vinar" <vinar@atlas.cz>
  6) Re: Eduard released
	by Matthew E Bittner <mbittner@juno.com>
  7) Rigging - Getting the Angle Right
	by Jack Berlien <JBerlien@TaosInc.com>
  8) Re: Ansaldo A.1 Ballila Fuselage artwork
	by bucky@ptdprolog.net
  9) RE: Breguet 14 review
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 10) RE: Death of Alan Clark
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 11) RE: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 12) Re: Rigging - Getting the Angle Right
	by smperry@mindspring.com
 13) Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
	by smperry@mindspring.com
 14) Wright/Hisso
	by "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
 15) Yellow Sworl Decals in 1/72
	by bucky@ptdprolog.net
 16) Re: Yellow Sworl Decals in 1/72
	by Sixmilfigs@cs.com
 17) Gotha WD.7  Questions
	by "richard eaton" <eatons@onr.com>
 18) Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
	by Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@OregonVOS.net>
 19) Old Rhinebeck
	by "Douglas R. Jones" <aeroc@flash.net>
 20) RK be returned
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 21) RE: Death of Alan Clark
	by "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
 22) Re: Ansaldo A.1 Ballila Fuselage artwork
	by "Sam Norgren" <starfusion@earthlink.net>
 23) Re: Death of Alan Clark
	by Albatrosdv@aol.com
 24) Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling
	by "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
 25) RE: RK be returned
	by "John C Glaser" <JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net>
 26) RE: Eduard released
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 27) Re: Yellow Sworl Decals in 1/72
	by bucky@ptdprolog.net
 28) Re: Death of Alan Clark
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 29) Thomas Morse MB3A
	by "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
 30) Re: Thomas Morse MB3A
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 31) All Quiet on the Western Front
	by "d mather" <dlmathe@hotmail.com>
 32) Re: All Quiet on the Western Front
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 33) Re: Thomas Morse MB3A
	by "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:25:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
Message-ID: <199909081725.NAA01644@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Hi all,

   Someone off list wants to know who makes detail parts for the 1/48 
Nieuport 17 from Testors. Suggestions?

-Allan

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:57:56 -0500
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
Message-ID: <s7d65d70.009@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Tom's Modelwork's has etched details in that scale.

>>> Allan Wright <aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu> 09/08 12:26 PM >>>
Hi all,

   Someone off list wants to know who makes detail parts for the 1/48 
Nieuport 17 from Testors. Suggestions?

-Allan

===============================================================================
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University of New Hampshire+---------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:03:26 -0500
From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
Message-ID: <s7d65eb7.060@transcrypt.com>

Eduard sells the PE parts for their Nieuport 17 seperately--should fit the Testors OK IMHO.

Paul A. Schwartzkopf

>>> Allan Wright <aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu> 09/08/1999 12:26:05 PM >>>
Hi all,

   Someone off list wants to know who makes detail parts for the 1/48 
Nieuport 17 from Testors. Suggestions?

-Allan

===============================================================================
Allan Wright Jr.           | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ
University of New Hampshire+---------------------------------------------------
Research Computing Center  | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu 
Internet: aew@unh.edu      | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu 
===============================================================================


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:40:49 +0100
From: "Steve" <steve_schofield@ndirect.co.uk>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Death of Alan Clark
Message-ID: <005701befa42$d1d475a0$26e107c3@oemcomputer>


> >
> >So, would you in-group Poms like to fill in the Inquiring Minds on this
> side
> >of the pond, hmmmm???  Who is this Alan Clark person?  Why is he
> >objectionable?  We want to participate in the lynching!
> >
> >Tom C
> >
> You lot, honestly. The man's already dead and you want to lynch him?
Scho


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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:02:09 +0200
From: "Lubos Vinar" <vinar@atlas.cz>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Eduard released
Message-ID: <199909082201.SAA02740@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Hi all,
today I receive Eduard's bulletin for business partner.This is a news 
for WWI modelers.

Eduard released

Nieuport Ni-23 in 1/48 scale
WWI wheel discs Express Mask (1/48)

and announced

WWI instruments (PE) 1/48
Albatros DVa 1/72 - will be avail. probably 10/1999
Pfalz D.IIIa 1/48 - will be avail. probably 10/1999



Lubos Vinar
vinar@atlas.cz
http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service
http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:36:45 -0500
From: Matthew E Bittner <mbittner@juno.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Eduard released
Message-ID: <19990908.173815.-4763.1.mbittner@juno.com>

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:03:08 -0400 (EDT) "Lubos Vinar" <vinar@atlas.cz>
writes:

> Albatros DVa 1/72 - will be avail. probably 10/1999

Awesome!  Maybe I won't have to pull out the Pegasus kit afterall... :-)


Matt Bittner
http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:23:43 -0500 
From: Jack Berlien <JBerlien@TaosInc.com>
To: "WWI (E-mail)" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Rigging - Getting the Angle Right
Message-ID: <B1664C65FEDCD211897C0090272EA807046E03@mail.taosinc.com>

When rigging with stiff wire or, I would guess, ceramic wire, I have
trouble with the
"drape" of the wire if the holes are not drilled at an angle.  In other
words, it doesn't
work just to try to pull the wire through a vertical hole, and angle it
off to it's
destination.  I get a curve in the wire.  I guess with some planning I
could drill most
of the holes at an angle, but there are certain locations, such as on
the rear
fuselage of a DR1, where the elevator control cables come out nearly
parallel
with the sides of the fuselage, where I can't get a drill at the proper
angle to drill
the hole.

I don't have this problem of course with nylon thread.  Any suggestions
from those
who use various types of wire for rigging?

Thanks in advance,

Jack

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 20:17:20 -0400
From: bucky@ptdprolog.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Ansaldo A.1 Ballila Fuselage artwork
Message-ID: <37D6FC90.6E9D34EB@ptdprolog.net>

Sam
    I think I found what you want in a book that's all in Polish.  It has a
bunch of b&w profiles of the Balilla and one of then is a kind of shield with
all sorts of scrool work around it. On the shield is a knight on a white
winged horse stabbing some sort of gragon. The serial # is A1  16552. If this
sounds like what you were looking for, contact me off list.
Mike Muth

Sam Norgren wrote:

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:33:48 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Breguet 14 review
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475AE9@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

EtH

> I'd just be interested in seeing what you get for $800.00
> bucks.

Forty Eduard Albatrossen.

Shane
(Enough for Jasta 5 and money over to buy a cow ;-)
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:43:46 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Death of Alan Clark
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475AEA@mimhexch.mim.com.au>


> Love him or loathe him, he was his own man.
> Sandy

> > Who is this Alan Clark person?  Why is he
> >objectionable?  We want to participate in the lynching!
> >
> >Tom C

Also a member of the school of history which asserts that Great Britain had
no business joining into WW1 *OR* WW2, and that the outcome was political
and financial ruin for the old empire for no good reason - a line of thought
supported by the likes of John Charmley and more recently Niall Ferguson. 

"In their view, Britain should have responded enthusiastically in 1940 or
1941 to Adolf Hitlers entirely genuine offer of a negotiated peace,
permitting Britain to retain its empire, and telling Franklin Roosevelt (the
empires great adversary) to jump in the lake. Only the deplorable actions of
the vainglorious Churchill, determined to prolong the war for selfish ends,
robbed England of this happy denouement"

...not my sort of person, but undeniably his own man

Shane
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:46:08 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475AEB@mimhexch.mim.com.au>


Al,

>    Someone off list wants to know who makes detail parts for the 1/48 
> Nieuport 17 from Testors. Suggestions?
> 

Eduard. They even replace the airframe ;-)

Shane
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:58:05 -0400
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Rigging - Getting the Angle Right
Message-ID: <000f01befa5e$60874460$da2c45cf@default>


but there are certain locations, such as on
>the rear
>fuselage of a DR1, where the elevator control cables come out nearly
>parallel
>with the sides of the fuselage, where I can't get a drill at the proper
>angle to drill
>the hole.

Jack:
I use a pin vise and start at right angles to the surface. Once started, I
begin angling the hole. It's about half the required angle by the time it's
through. Then I spin the bit and work the angle down trying not to waller
out the hole too much.

You don't have to drill much of a hole at right angles, just enough to keep
the bit from skittering when you begin to angle it. A delicate manouver with
a #80 bit, but go slow and you'll get that wire in at an angle that looks
right.

hth
sp
sp


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:04:08 -0400
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
Message-ID: <001601befa5f$38c31a20$da2c45cf@default>



>Hi all,
>
>   Someone off list wants to know who makes detail parts for the 1/48
>Nieuport 17 from Testors. Suggestions?
>
>-Allan


The engine on the Testor's Nie 17 is in dire need of replacement. Barry
provided me with an excellent Atlee resin engine.  It's a bit of a bother to
remove the molded in one, but replacement really adds to the model.

sp


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:31:17 -0400
From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
To: "WWI Mailing List" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Wright/Hisso
Message-ID: <001201befa63$118e5740$0a7433cf@Pvosburg>

Can any of you eagle-eyes tell me if there were any *external* differences between the
US-made 180 hp Wright E-series V-8s and the original Hispano-Suizas?

Also, are there any resin/metal/styrene versions of either motor available in 1:32? I know
the Revell SPAD had one in 1:28, but neither Aeroclub or Engines N' Things seems to make
one in the size I'm looking for.

TIA,

DV






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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:58:30 -0400
From: bucky@ptdprolog.net
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Yellow Sworl Decals in 1/72
Message-ID: <37D71446.933D8DAB@ptdprolog.net>

Hey Guys,

    I'm in the middle of Linke-Crawford's D-III in 1/72 and realized I
don't have enough of the yellow sworl decal that came in the HitKit
Albatros D.III (Offag) kit  that goes on top of the dark green. Anyone
out there give up on this kit and willing to part with the decal? Or
swap for something? Any help greatly appreciated.
tia
Mike Muth
NB: Pfalz almost done. Just the radiator hose to be connected and the
wheel to be glued. Savoring the moment for tomorrow. & in 1/72 Albatros
D-III for Linke-Crawford
NU: Still an open question...one to be answered tomorrow night, with
luck. I think that is one of my favorite parts....deciding what's next
after finishing one.
NL: NPR Bruce Colburn's new album.


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:04:14 EDT
From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Yellow Sworl Decals in 1/72
Message-ID: <592c940f.25086f9e@cs.com>

I don't have anything to help you out, but I just picked up a couple of 
HitKit's last week and would be interested in any comments you might provide 
as to their accuracy and construction.
Shawn

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:27:14 -0500
From: "richard eaton" <eatons@onr.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Gotha WD.7  Questions
Message-ID: <199909090226.VAA27225@sierra.onr.com>

Well I'm working on birds again. Any of you learned
scholars have any drawings of this late war floatplane?
I am doing the Sierra kit and would appreciate any assistance
off list.

Thanks, and Regards,

Richard









ps. Happy Birthday Dennis



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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:14:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@OregonVOS.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: detail parts for Testors 1/48 N-17
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.990908201054.4566A-100000@compass.OregonVOS.net>


On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 smperry@mindspring.com wrote:

> >Hi all,

> >   Someone off list wants to know who makes detail parts for the 1/48
> >Nieuport 17 from Testors. Suggestions?

> The engine on the Testor's Nie 17 is in dire need of replacement. Barry
> provided me with an excellent Atlee resin engine.  It's a bit of a bother to
> remove the molded in one, but replacement really adds to the model.

Don't remove the molded in engine - the cowling is too thick to accept
the separate replacement engine without -lots- of work.  Use the
existing cowling as a male mold to form a new cowling out of
sheet styrene with the ol' heat/plunge method.  

Cheers and all,




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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:01:11 -0500
From: "Douglas R. Jones" <aeroc@flash.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Old Rhinebeck
Message-ID: <199909090401.XAA27110@bunyip.flash.net>

Gentlefolk,
Tomorrow morning we begin the pilgrimage to Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome.
Unfortunately, I was unable to get the Pup shipped up in time to
participate. So I probably won't get any stick time this year :-( Will have
camera in hand and my flying partner is bring his video camera. Expect this
year will be as enjoyable as years past!

In any case I hope to see several list folks there. You will find me
Saturday wearing a black Polo shirt with "Texas R/C Modelers" on the front
pocket. Sunday...who knows. We will be there somewhere! When in doubt find
a fellow named George who is usually in possession of the microphone and
ask him to page me!

Doug
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:22:13 EDT
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RK be returned
Message-ID: <e11fa891.25088ff5@aol.com>

Well, shucks, I'm back. August 99 has come and gone. From Sweden to Arkansas. 
Got in touch with my "Inner Festus" along the way......and decided that 
Swedes and Arkies are the same folks, except that Swedes talk funny.( The 
wife has come to the same conclusion, except in her version, the Arkies talk 
funny)All went well on this last leg aside from a blown alternator outside 
Salisaw Oklahoma. I resubbed a couple of days ago and have been lurking...my 
brain wasn't ready to dive in just quite yet with any output 'cause we got 
home Sunday morning around 2:00 after a 19 hour drive home from 
Amarillo,Texas. No real modeling or aviation experiences to speak of.
 My only regret is that we didn't have time to stop and visit some of the 
list members who live within reasonable driving distance of our route.This 
was an unavoidably rushed trip- I would've loved to have stopped and met some 
of you!
I did a quick cruise through the archive... and to those who had a comment or 
two about my Fokker Spinne in the new Internet Modeler- thanks- I think... I 
also noticed a couple of new members...welcome to this assortment of 
escapees, loonys and all-round grand collection of Gentlemen and Ladies.
AND...noticing Cyg's presentation of some of the Rickenbacker book stuff, 
here's the name of the real author of Fighting the Flying Circus:     
Laurence LaTourette Driggs.
'Night all!
Robert K.

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:09:43 PDT
From: "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: Death of Alan Clark
Message-ID: <19990909050944.59074.qmail@hotmail.com>

One of the great minds of the century.....the nineteenth century

Peter Leonard

"Don't panic"
Douglas Adams

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:17:53 -0400
From: "Sam Norgren" <starfusion@earthlink.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Cc: <bucky@ptdprolog.net>
Subject: Re: Ansaldo A.1 Ballila Fuselage artwork
Message-ID: <003d01befa82$acec1c80$a1462126@vucqpqlj>


----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Ansaldo A.1 Ballila Fuselage artwork


>     I think I found what you want in a book that's all in Polish.  It has
a
> bunch of b&w profiles of the Balilla and one of then is a kind of shield
with
> all sorts of scrool work around it. On the shield is a knight on a white
> winged horse stabbing some sort of gragon. The serial # is A1  16552. If
this
> sounds like what you were looking for, contact me off list.
> Mike Muth

Actually, I think I have this book...looking, looking, looking. Ha! under my
nose all this time. Yes, it's right here. Thanks for the reminder.

Bob Norgren
Sierra Scale Models


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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:04:59 EDT
From: Albatrosdv@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Death of Alan Clark
Message-ID: <153e42af.2508a80b@aol.com>

In a message dated 99-09-09 01:12:16 EDT, you write:

<< 
 One of the great minds of the century.....the nineteenth century
  >>

Actually, he sounded so obtuse, I was suspecting he was one of the Norman 
ex-Viking scum who came over with Willy.

Tom C

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:53:24 PDT
From: "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling
Message-ID: <19990909065325.13754.qmail@hotmail.com>

Some of you will remember Graham Nash posting a heads up on a copy of "Scale 
Model Aircraft in Plastic Card" about a week ago. Guess who won the race for 
that one :¬b

A mint second edition copy is now on it's way to Nexus, what they are going 
to do with it heaven only knows, while I can still sleap peacefuly with my 
dog-eared first edition under the pillow

I remain doubtful that it will come to anything, but let's see just how far 
I can pedal this thing


Peter Leonard
IPMS UK
Lancashire & Cheshire Branch
http://www.storks.cwc.net
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:46:49 -0500
From: "John C Glaser" <JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: RK be returned
Message-ID: <NCBBIGELEDFOEIAFMCDDAECICOAA.JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net>

Man, its good to have you back.  Things just haven't been the same without
you.  Welcome back.

- JG



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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:56:35 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Eduard released
Message-ID: <007d01befab1$fc5a8a20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Hi Lubos
I didn't understood completely. Eduard will release an AlbDVa 1/72 kit or a
PE set for it, or both? In any case: Yipeeeeeeee!
Hey, they should do a Pfalz DIII and a Halb. DII in 1/72 as well!
D.


----- Original Message -----
From: Lubos Vinar <vinar@atlas.cz>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 7:03 PM
Subject: Eduard released


> Hi all,
> today I receive Eduard's bulletin for business partner.This is a news
> for WWI modelers.
>
> Eduard released
>
> Nieuport Ni-23 in 1/48 scale
> WWI wheel discs Express Mask (1/48)
>
> and announced
>
> WWI instruments (PE) 1/48
> Albatros DVa 1/72 - will be avail. probably 10/1999
> Pfalz D.IIIa 1/48 - will be avail. probably 10/1999
>
>
>
> Lubos Vinar
> vinar@atlas.cz
> http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service
> http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage
>


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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 07:36:28 -0400
From: bucky@ptdprolog.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Yellow Sworl Decals in 1/72
Message-ID: <37D79BBC.6815212@ptdprolog.net>

Shawn
    The kits have a lot of flash. The decals are the best thing about the kits.
I haven't tried to scale them out and the Albatros I'm building is a Revel in
1/72. I'm just using the HitKit for decals.
Mike Muth

Sixmilfigs@cs.com wrote:

> I don't have anything to help you out, but I just picked up a couple of
> HitKit's last week and would be interested in any comments you might provide
> as to their accuracy and construction.
> Shawn




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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:17:45 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Death of Alan Clark
Message-ID: <004401befad7$ce420b60$6a81aec7@dora9sprynet.com>

By any chance, did he have a life-size picture of Neville Chamberlain over
his bed?

                                                    DB



>In a message dated 99-09-09 01:12:16 EDT, you write:
>
><<
> One of the great minds of the century.....the nineteenth century
>  >>
>
>Actually, he sounded so obtuse, I was suspecting he was one of the Norman
>ex-Viking scum who came over with Willy.
>
>Tom C


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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:31:44 PDT
From: "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Thomas Morse MB3A
Message-ID: <19990909153144.99078.qmail@hotmail.com>

Just, and only just, on topic, I have dredged up a 1976 Aviation News which 
has the Morse/Boeing MB3A as it's warpaint feature. I have the Wylem 
drawings in 1/48, one of his better efforts, but until now the only colour 
ref I had was for a couple of movie ships. I'm tempted to have a go at a 
94th pursuit machine in cereal packet scale, but there is something on the 
drawing I can't quite figure out. Behind the indian head there is a coloured 
band and the fin appears to be the same colour. Anybody have a good guess 
what colour this might be?

Peter Leonard
IPMS UK
Lancashire & Cheshire Branch
http://www.storks.cwc.net
http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com
PeterL@cwcom.net

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:43:22 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Thomas Morse MB3A
Message-ID: <005701befada$0da9d100$6a81aec7@dora9sprynet.com>

Hi Peter,

    Allow me to conjecture a little bit - I'd have to see the photo you are
looking at to be really accurate, but it was standard practice for each
flight in a squadron to have a different color.  Standard colors would be
white, red, blue, green, black, yellow, etc.  There would be a colored band
on the fuselage, and the tail or other surfaces of the A/C (such as the
spinner or cowl) could have this color on them.  It was merely for aerial
ID.  It also gave rise to the really colorful planes that had numerous
colored stripes on them - the squadron leadrer's A/C.  Is the plane you are
doing USAAC, USN, or USMC?  I believe that I have a color guide for the USMC
ID bands around here somewhere....

                                       I hope I'm correct about this....

                                                            DB
-----Original Message-----
From: PETER LEONARD <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:36 AM
Subject: Thomas Morse MB3A


>Just, and only just, on topic, I have dredged up a 1976 Aviation News which
>has the Morse/Boeing MB3A as it's warpaint feature. I have the Wylem
>drawings in 1/48, one of his better efforts, but until now the only colour
>ref I had was for a couple of movie ships. I'm tempted to have a go at a
>94th pursuit machine in cereal packet scale, but there is something on the
>drawing I can't quite figure out. Behind the indian head there is a
coloured
>band and the fin appears to be the same colour. Anybody have a good guess
>what colour this might be?
>
>Peter Leonard
>IPMS UK
>Lancashire & Cheshire Branch
>http://www.storks.cwc.net
>http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com
>PeterL@cwcom.net
>
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:51:42 PDT
From: "d mather" <dlmathe@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: All Quiet on the Western Front
Message-ID: <19990909155142.8254.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hey list,
What happened? I havent seen a post since Wednesday morning. Granted, I 
chose to go to Digest mode because of all the chatter, but still - is there 
anybody out there?
I did verify thru review wwi that Im still on the list - - -
doug
nb: AEG C.IV (getting close!)

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:58:46 -0500
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: All Quiet on the Western Front
Message-ID: <s7d792f2.040@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

You're still there, no problem.

>>> "d mather" <dlmathe@hotmail.com> 09/09 10:51 AM >>>
Hey list,
What happened? I havent seen a post since Wednesday morning. Granted, I 
chose to go to Digest mode because of all the chatter, but still - is there 
anybody out there?
I did verify thru review wwi that Im still on the list - - -
doug
nb: AEG C.IV (getting close!)

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:10:42 PDT
From: "PETER LEONARD" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Thomas Morse MB3A
Message-ID: <19990909161043.45368.qmail@hotmail.com>

David,
       you make a heap of sense. This is in fact a drawing not a photo, but 
although the draughtsman indicates that there is a band he gives no clues 
what colour it is. He does use a different hatching to some of the other 
colours though, from which I infer that it is not red blue or black. Yellow 
or green would be nice. This is an army machine, would the green likely be a 
bright emerald or something less garish?

Peter Leonard
IPMS UK
Lancashire & Cheshire Branch
http://www.storks.cwc.net
http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com
PeterL@cwcom.net


>From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
>Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
>Subject: Re: Thomas Morse MB3A
>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:48:52 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Hi Peter,
>
>     Allow me to conjecture a little bit - I'd have to see the photo you 
>are
>looking at to be really accurate, but it was standard practice for each
>flight in a squadron to have a different color.  Standard colors would be
>white, red, blue, green, black, yellow, etc.  There would be a colored band
>on the fuselage, and the tail or other surfaces of the A/C (such as the
>spinner or cowl) could have this color on them.  It was merely for aerial
>ID.  It also gave rise to the really colorful planes that had numerous
>colored stripes on them - the squadron leadrer's A/C.  Is the plane you are
>doing USAAC, USN, or USMC?  I believe that I have a color guide for the 
>USMC
>ID bands around here somewhere....
>
>                                        I hope I'm correct about this....
>
>                                                             DB
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PETER LEONARD <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
>Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:36 AM
>Subject: Thomas Morse MB3A
>
>
> >Just, and only just, on topic, I have dredged up a 1976 Aviation News 
>which
> >has the Morse/Boeing MB3A as it's warpaint feature. I have the Wylem
> >drawings in 1/48, one of his better efforts, but until now the only 
>colour
> >ref I had was for a couple of movie ships. I'm tempted to have a go at a
> >94th pursuit machine in cereal packet scale, but there is something on 
>the
> >drawing I can't quite figure out. Behind the indian head there is a
>coloured
> >band and the fin appears to be the same colour. Anybody have a good guess
> >what colour this might be?
> >
> >Peter Leonard
> >IPMS UK
> >Lancashire & Cheshire Branch
> >http://www.storks.cwc.net
> >http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com
> >PeterL@cwcom.net
> >
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