WWI Digest 1804 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Newbie by smperry@mindspring.com 2) List member meeting by smperry@mindspring.com 3) RE: Wood grain by Dennis Ugulano 4) Re: Wood grain by Dennis Ugulano 5) Re: Newbie by Dennis Ugulano 6) Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! by Dennis Ugulano 7) Re: List member meeting by Ernest Thomas 8) RE: List member meeting by Shane Weier 9) Clearwater Florida by "PETER LEONARD" 10) Re: List member meeting by smperry@mindspring.com 11) Re: Wood grain by Brent & Tina Theobald 12) Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! by DWa7000007@aol.com 13) Re: Clearwater Florida by smperry@mindspring.com 14) RE: List member meeting by Shane Weier 15) Re: List member meeting by smperry@mindspring.com 16) Re: List member meeting by Ernest Thomas 17) Re: List member meeting by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Beaaonneau Hangar by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: List member meeting by Ernest Thomas 20) Re: List member meeting by Albatrosdv@aol.com 21) Re: Beaaonneau Hangar by DWa7000007@aol.com 22) Fw: VIRUS ALERT by "Sandy Adam" 23) Re: Newbie by Suvoroff@aol.com 24) Re: Gazzetted? by "Sandy Adam" 25) Re: Parlez Vous Americaine? - Lead wire by "Sandy Adam" 26) Re: New Udet Info by "Sandy Adam" 27) RE: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! by "dfernet0" 28) Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! by Matthew E Bittner 29) RE: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! by "dfernet0" 30) Extranjeros WAS: Alberto Rada....Venezolano en Jasta 11 by "dfernet0" 31) RE: Newbie by "dfernet0" 32) Taube book by "dfernet0" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:04:00 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Newbie Message-ID: <005701beeeae$dd37e2a0$a62845cf@default> >Greetings From a Newbie, Welcome to the List Craig. You'll find this is just the place to be if you're getting back into the hobby. Many of those kits remembered from years ago are still around and some of the recent stuff is exquisite. Regards sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:20:59 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: List member meeting Message-ID: <007101beeeb1$3c9b8600$a62845cf@default> I received a call this afternoon from John Cyganowski. He was going to be traveling through Tampa on his way to a job site. The airport being only 30 minutes from the house, we made arrangements to meet. I printed up the List Button graphic into a 6.5" disc and he had no trouble identifying me. After contacting his coworker, we retired to a local resturant for some beer and some WWI aviation & modeling talk. To those of you speculating on the Passchendaele Halberstadt kit......do not worry, your investment in patience will likely be handsomely rewarded :-) John asked me to pass on to the list that he will be home near the end of the week. Always a pleasure to meet other list members, never pass up the opportunity should it come your way. sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:29:25 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Wood grain Message-ID: <199908250029_MC2-8245-C9DF@compuserve.com> Shane, >> but my intention is to make the grain as near invisible as possible, in keeping with *my* perception of what I like at the scale of the model - but given that this hobby is a matter of impressions as well as reproduction YMMV My compliments on your patience, and on the model, which looks damned fine << Thank you very much for your compliment. I agree on the wood grain. I like the maple grain and cut into small pieces on a 72nd scale kit, should not be that visible. But there are so many different types of wood and I will slowly try several. Of course the piece of maple I have will last about 5 years with the amount of wood it takes to cover a WW1 plane. :-) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/DJU.HTM Page Revised 8/16/99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:29:23 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Wood grain Message-ID: <199908250029_MC2-8245-C9DD@compuserve.com> Pedro, >> do you leave the wood soaking in undiluted ammonia? << Yes, I have a little metal egg cup that I put the ammonia in and soak the wood. There's not a lot of it so the fumes won't get you. I soaked mine just a few minutes. Remember, the wood is about as thick as a sheet of paper. Just experiment. I have very little knowledge to pass on to you because my wood grain experience is about 1 hour. I will experiment with different woods. Right now my next piece is maple. Shane is using bass wood. The Cedar I used is natural and to me looked exactly like the A-H plane finish. The Albatros wood is lighter and a slight yellow stain should give it the natural look of varnished, yellowed wood. I gave you all of my secrets. From here we can build a very nice library of wood secrets for the video that we are talking about making. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/DJU.HTM Page Revised 8/16/99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:29:22 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Newbie Message-ID: <199908250029_MC2-8245-C9DC@compuserve.com> Craig, Welcome to the group. You are going to find one of the strangest group of people you have ever met. And they will ruin you for life. I know. I came here in January, innocent, naive, just wanted some information on how to build my models better. 8 months later I have my own web site and am putting things into my models that people can't see, even me. Seriously, this is one knowlegable group of people. Just this noon I asked about information of the Taube. So far I have four replies. That's how it is with almost everything. Ask and some one will know the answer or will direct you to someone who does. Welcome to the group. You are going to enjoy it here. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/DJU.HTM Page Revised 8/16/99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:29:24 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! Message-ID: <199908250029_MC2-8245-C9DE@compuserve.com> Matt, >> > Correction: a good 1/72 Halb DII. ;-) Hear, here! Speak it, D! << I have a Halberstadt D.II that is pretty decent. It was Merlin's first offering about a hundred years ago. Not a bad kit. Of course it been out of production for about 99 of those years. But I could use another Halberstadt. A hundred is years is a long time to wait. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/DJU.HTM Page Revised 8/16/99 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:30:02 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List member meeting Message-ID: <37C3714A.507A@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > To those of you speculating on the Passchendaele Halberstadt kit......do not > worry, your investment in patience will likely be handsomely rewarded :-) > That sounds great, but what's up with your Udet page? All I get is a headline about how U hacked off the nazi's and a big blank white screen. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:30:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: List member meeting Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475A64@mimhexch.mim.com.au> SP says: > Always a pleasure to meet other list members, never pass up > the opportunity should it come your way. SP is right. I have been able to meet 9 face to face so far, an excellent record spoiled slightly by the fact most of them live in the same city as me anyway. I have also had the pleasure of chatting by phone with a number of members in the US. Given that telephone calls are getting cheaper and cheaper - A$6 == US$4 for 30 minutes from Australia to the United States, I am occasionally able to have the pleasure of hearing how other members *sound* Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:35:29 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Clearwater Florida Message-ID: <19990825043530.95656.qmail@hotmail.com> A little while ago someone posted an item about a resin Farman which he had bought at a hobby shop in Clearwater Florida.I hope to be in Orlando in October. Is Clearwater anywhere near Orlando? Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:53:20 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: List member meeting Message-ID: <008001beeeb5$c1502960$a62845cf@default> >smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > >> To those of you speculating on the Passchendaele Halberstadt kit......do not >> worry, your investment in patience will likely be handsomely rewarded :-) >> >That sounds great, but what's up with your Udet page? All I get is a >headline about how U hacked off the nazi's and a big blank white screen. >E. Gee Ernie, I don't know, it works for me and several others, but you & Tom S. had problems. I don't know HTML enough to know why some and not others. I just deleted the files in my Temporary Internet Files folder and re logged on to the site. I got the headline, the thumbnail and the photo just fine. sorry sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:51:01 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Wood grain Message-ID: <37C39255.D8EA7332@airmail.net> Greetings gang! I have a large slice of walnut veneer. Anyone interested in trading some other veneer for pieces of walnut? I'd like to try some other kinds of wood myself. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:54:50 EDT From: DWa7000007@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! Message-ID: <2a319e8a.24f4d11a@aol.com> You know, coming to think of it, I believe there was a crude limited run injection molded Halberstad D-II produced in 1/48 at one time. not for sure. Can't think of the name manufacture. Yeah, I't was at Aviation USK is where I seen it. But my mind was on 1/48th Gotha bombers at the time. Dose kit sound familiar? Danny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:56:50 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Clearwater Florida Message-ID: <008701beeeb6$3e81b8e0$a62845cf@default> >A little while ago someone posted an item about a resin Farman which he had >bought at a hobby shop in Clearwater Florida.I hope to be in Orlando in >October. Is Clearwater anywhere near Orlando? > >Peter Leonard Hi Peter: That was me. Clearwater is on the Gulf Coast of central Florida. Orlando near the center of the penninsula about an hour and a half drive east of Clearwater. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:57:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: List member meeting Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475A65@mimhexch.mim.com.au> SP, Ern, > >That sounds great, but what's up with your Udet page? All I get is a > >headline about how U hacked off the nazi's and a big blank > white screen. I had trouble too, using an old version of Nutscrape on my laptop, but it came up just fine using IE4 on the desk. May be an issue with facilities not available in your browser Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:02:37 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: List member meeting Message-ID: <009001beeeb7$0d712fa0$a62845cf@default> >SP, Ern, > >> >That sounds great, but what's up with your Udet page? All I get is a >> >headline about how U hacked off the nazi's and a big blank >> white screen. > >I had trouble too, using an old version of Nutscrape on my laptop, but it >came up just fine using IE4 on the desk. May be an issue with facilities not >available in your browser I use IE4 and had no problem. Here is the URL of the photo. LMK if that works sp http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/ernst2.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:06:51 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List member meeting Message-ID: <37C379EB.674B@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > I had trouble too, using an old version of Nutscrape on my laptop, Nutscrape? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! E. But I still want to see the finished product, Steve. Send me the image off list, would ya please? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:09:39 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List member meeting Message-ID: <37C37A93.2B14@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > Gee Ernie, I don't know, it works for me and several others, but you & Tom > S. had problems. It's a plot against me. I know it is, so don't tell me it isn't. The $&%^$*#$ black helicopters just went over the house. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:12:20 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Beaaonneau Hangar Message-ID: <37C37B33.93F@bellsouth.net> Tom Solinski wrote: > > Ever need any assistance on a project drop me an e-mail. > > Dittos again! > Well, if one of y'all could help me figger out why my truck won't start. Contact me off list, as it's a '91 and therefore off topic. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:16:12 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List member meeting Message-ID: <37C37C1C.6317@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/ernst2.jpg Yup, that worked. Funny thing though, I had no trouble with the rest of your site. Except for some of the models being too small. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:32:04 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List member meeting Message-ID: <830c54fb.24f4d9d4@aol.com> In a message dated 99-08-25 00:59:52 EDT, you write: << I had trouble too, using an old version of Nutscrape on my laptop, but it came up just fine using IE4 on the desk. May be an issue with facilities not available in your browser Shane >> Even using AOL3 on the coal-fired computer I have, I had zip trouble getting to see that very funny joke. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:33:37 EDT From: DWa7000007@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Beaaonneau Hangar Message-ID: <3ab72a91.24f4e841@aol.com> Can't help you there Tom . . .sorry Danny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:14:01 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Fw: VIRUS ALERT Message-ID: <001201beeed1$cb10bd40$3ae8b094@sandyada> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Forsyth To: Everyone Date: 25 August 1999 09:07 Subject: FW: VIRUS ALERT >FW: VIRUS ALERT >>> >>"We have been informed of a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive >>one-mail titled CALIFORNIA. IBM and AOL have announced that it is very >>powerful, more so than Melissa, there is no remedy. It will eat all your >>information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape Navigator and >>Microsoft Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title. Not >>many people know about this yet so propagate it as fast as possible." >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:48:59 EDT From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Newbie Message-ID: <1715cbcd.24f507fb@aol.com> "Craig Goebel Everett, WA" Welcome! Another Northwest Modeller! Spiffy! Yours, James D. Gray Bremerton, WA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:55:13 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Gazzetted? Message-ID: <00ce01beeed7$ac19bda0$3ae8b094@sandyada> A Gazette is an official document containing public notices, appointments etc.(Collins Dictionary) When an officer was commissioned in the field, the announcement was made official by appearing in that day's gazette. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:35:57 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Parlez Vous Americaine? - Lead wire Message-ID: <00cd01beeed7$aaf4c5a0$3ae8b094@sandyada> Peter up't north and Len dahn sarf Why bother with either? - you just wade into the burn until you feel that cooling sensation under the kilt, then tickle the salmon's belly till it leaps into your sporran don't you? That's how we fish up here anyway. Sandy frae bloody miles up North (Where the men are men and the sheep are scared!) -----Original Message----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 24 August 1999 21:41 Subject: Re: Parlez Vous Americaine? - Lead wire >Len dahn sarf, the soft wire now used by anglers has had the lead content >reduced or eliminated, but it's still up to the job and a third the price >asked by the model trade. > >Peter up't'North > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:00:30 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: New Udet Info Message-ID: <00ec01beeee0$aba8bd40$3ae8b094@sandyada> Nice one! Sandy -----Original Message----- From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 25 August 1999 00:30 Subject: New Udet Info >Research into documents recently unearthed in eastern Germany has indicated >the real reasons behind why Ernst Udet ran afoul of the Nazis during WW >whatever the other one was. > >Check my web site at the link below. Bet this gets Joey out of lurk for a >bit . > >sp > >E-mail smperry@mindspring.com >Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:18:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! Message-ID: <002e01beeee3$2831ece0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Danny You're welcome. As a matter of fact, reviewing the Halberstadt special I got this crazy idea of scratchbuilding one in 1/72. The slab sides aren't difficult to replicate. I tried a surplus Albatros fuselage over the plans but the curve of the turtledecks isn't too alike. So this would be heath formed from plastic sheet. I might do a couple of kits more before I try to do a plane from the raw materials. Or wait until the Passchendaele kit appears and change my scale! ;-) Who knows... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! > Diego, > That's sounds really grate, but I'm into 1/48 & 1/28 scale. But thanks > anyway:) > > Danny > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:33:48 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! Message-ID: <19990825.053536.-193755.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:20:46 -0400 (EDT) "dfernet0" writes: > Or wait until the Passchendaele kit > appears and change my scale! ;-) NNNNNNOOOOO!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:53:34 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! Message-ID: <00ad01beeee8$14169440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt Shhhhhh! Don't worry, I was giving some hopes to the poor boy.... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 7:49 AM Subject: Re: Cramer Halberstadt kit: A plane wreck in a plastic bag! > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:20:46 -0400 (EDT) "dfernet0" > writes: > > > Or wait until the Passchendaele kit > > appears and change my scale! ;-) > > NNNNNNOOOOO!!!! > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:03:52 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Extranjeros WAS: Alberto Rada....Venezolano en Jasta 11 Message-ID: <00ae01beeee9$8525f300$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Alberto & Fernando We spanish speakers must be united! In the last months I've been doing research for some members of the list about airplanes found in Argentina. As supposed, I didn't find anything about what I was looking for, but I've found that some argentinians flew in WW1, instead. One of them, maybe the most famous, was Vicente Almonacid, who flew for the french and was awarded (among others) with the "Croix de Guerre" and promoted to captain, even when this wasn't allowed to foreigners in the legion. He was the most condecorated argentinian in all our history. Another one flew with Baracca in his squadriglia. A third one moved to Germany before the war, and after graduating as a pilot in 1913 designed the airplanes for AGO Werke (yes, the strange lines of the AGO CII were born in the mind of and argentinian, predictable, wasn't it?). That's all that I know about our contribution in the first air war, maybe there's more. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Fernando Lamas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:20 AM Subject: Alberto Rada....Venezolano en Jasta 11 > At 10:48 PM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Dennis......... > >>SALUDOS > >Alberto > > > Hola Alberto, > > Parece que volvistes a la Lista. Mira lo que me encontre en mis > estudios.... Un Venezolano en Jasta 11. :-) > > Saludos, > Fernando > > >Estimado Fernado: > >Gracias por la informacion sobre "Meyer"por desgracia no tengo esos > libros,pero si > >agrdeceria > >mucho las foto copias del libro "Hunting with Von Richtoffen".Mi dirrecion > es: > > > >Sr.Santiago A.Flore > >P.O.Box 430910 > >San Ysidro.CA.92143-0910 > >USA > > > >en cualquier cosa que lo pueda ayudar,por favor digame > > > >Santiago > > > >Fernando Lamas wrote: > > > >> Hola Santiago, > >> > >> Para los pilotos de Jastas Alemanes que no son "aces", se necesita el > >> libro de Grub Street, "The Jasata Pilots". Parece que a Meyer nada mas que > >> le dieron 4 victorias. > >> > >> Tienes el libro de Grub Street, "Hunting With Richthofen"? Este libro > >> es la traduccion del "diary" de Karl Bodenschatz, "adjutant" de Jasta 11. > >> Busque a Meyer en el indice de este libro y esta en 20 paginas. Al > >> principio del libro, Bodenschatz escribe de Meyer, "Leutnant Meyer, also a > >> cavalryman, brown face, black hair, like a portrait of a boy from the brush > >> of a Spanish painter." > >> > >> Si me mandas tu direccion de correo, te puedo enviar fotocopias de las > >> paginas de Meyer en el libro de Bodenschatz. > >> > >> "The Jasta Pilots" dice esto de Meyer: > >> > >> MEYER, Karl Ltn. > >> > >> FA 201A 1 FEB 1917 - 14 Jul 1917 > >> Jasta 11 14 JUL 1917 - 6 SEP 1917 > >> Jasta 4 6 SEP 1917 - 19 SEP 1918 > >> > >> Served in 8th Cuirassier Rgt. Wounded in action 17 JUL 1917, at 2055 > >> hours near Ypern, possibly by Capt. N. W. Webb, No. 70 Squadron, RFC. OzbV > >> for Jasta 4. Transferred to Jastaschule II as an instructor 19 SEPT 1918. > >> > >> Victories: > >> > >> 1. 31 JUL 1917 RE8 1300 HRS Diemlingseck ( RE8 A4724, A Sqn, RFC, Lt. > >> J. Longton ans 2ndLt. T.L. Carson. > >> > >> 2. 28 JUN 1918 SPAD 0950 HRS Corcy > >> > >> 3. 15 JUL 1918 SPAD 1640 HRS N Fossoy > >> > >> 4. 18 JUL 1918 Camel 0930 HRS Marsuil > >> > >> > >> Saludos, > >> Fernando Lamas > >> > >> > >> > >> At 02:09 PM 7/24/99 -0700, you wrote: > >> >Sr.Lamas: > >> >Si hable espanol I agradeceria mucho cualquier informacion sobre Karl > >> Meyer,si es > >> >el,porque > >> >Karl es Carlos Meyer su apellido Paterno y Baldo su mama,en ese mismo > >> libro sobre > >> >la Historia > >> >de la Fuerza Aerea Venezolana,lo mencionan que fue acreditado con 5 > victorias > >> >aereas,pero > >> >revisando los libros que tengo sobre los Aces de la Primera Guerra Mundial > >> de la > >> >Serie de > >> >Grub street,Londres,Inglaterra.No lo encuentro. > >> > > >> >Que me hace sospechar que quizas una de sus victorias no fue confirmada,y > >> quizas > >> >tenga 4 victorias > >> >oficiales,despues de la Guerra este piloto regreso a Venezuela,pero no > >> volvio a > >> >la aviacion hasta > >> >en los principios de los 1930's y por desgracia se mato en un accidente > aereo > >> >como lo mencione > >> >en mi nota en el WWI Aviation Discussion Board. > >> > > >> >El es el tercero que encuentro,hay un Ecuatoriano que volo con los > >> Italianos y > >> >hubo un Mexicano > >> >que volo con los Americanos y otro con los Franceses, estoy al tanto de > >> otros que > >> >allan prestado sus servicios en la aviacion,la mayoria eran de padres > >> Europeos > >> >nacidos en American latina. > >> >Agradeceria mucho su ayuda en este tema. > >> > > >> >Atentamente > >> > > >> >Santiago A.Flores > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:09:19 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Newbie Message-ID: <030301beeef2$ab7f5e20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Welcome Craig! You'll find lots of useful information here, as well as lots of unuseful, but funny anyway. Diego F. southerner modeler of the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Goebel Family To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 8:47 PM Subject: Newbie > Greetings From a Newbie, > > I have been following the archived daily postings for a week or so > now and have finally gotten up the resolve to subscribe. I have been > interested in WWI aviation since I was a kid and have recently gotten > back into modeling after a long absence. I am anticipating rebuilding > all those 1/48 kits that I'd built as a kid. I think now I've a much > better chance of them coming out like I imagined they would back then. I > have been visiting this site since I first got on the internet and did a > search for WWI aviation and have been impressed with the quality and > quantity of information and entertainment that is present. > > Many thanks, > Craig Goebel > Everett, WA > USA > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:16:49 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Taube book Message-ID: <038d01beeef3$b5da5180$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Dennis I've found this in http://www.bibliofind.com/ , a very useful site to thin your wallet: de Vries, John A.: Taube, Dove of War ; Historical Aviation Album, 1978. First Edition, Soft Cover, Very Good, VG 1st Edition Softbound, Photographs, World War I AVIATION WORLD WAR I AIRPLANES (UR#:Av000148) Offered for sale by Altair-4 Books & Collectibles at US$20.00 HTH D. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1804 **********************