WWI Digest 1781 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Glencoe Albatross "D'OH"!! by "WALTER H. APPEL" 2) Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by David & Carol Fletcher 3) Re: Speaking of Junkers... by David & Carol Fletcher 4) Re: New Workbench Photo by Matthew E Bittner 5) Re: New Workbench Photo by Matthew E Bittner 6) Re: New Workbench Photo by roguerpj 7) Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list by Dave Berry 8) Re: New Workbench Photo by roguerpj 9) Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by "DAVID BURKE" 11) Re: New Workbench Photo by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by Ernest Thomas 13) Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list by Mike Fletcher 14) Re: Rhinebeck Reminder by "David Vosburgh" 15) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by "Eli Geher" 16) Re: was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc by Ernest Thomas 17) Re: New Workbench Photo by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: New Workbench Photo by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: New Workbench Photo by "Bob Pearson" 20) Re: New Workbench Photo by Zulis@aol.com 21) RE: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by Shane Weier 22) Control Horns by smperry@mindspring.com 23) Re: Control Horns by "PETER LEONARD" 24) Re: New Workbench Photo by Matthew E Bittner 25) Re: New Workbench Photo by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 26) Re: Torque question by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 27) Web Site Maintenance by Allan Wright 28) Re: New Workbench Photo by Matthew E Bittner 29) 1/72 Eduard 1-seat Strutter/ was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc by "Michael Kendix" 30) Salmson 2A2 by "PETER LEONARD" 31) Re: Torque question by "Sandy Adam" 32) Re: Salmson 2A2 by "Sandy Adam" 33) Lonestar J.I (was Re: Speaking of Junkers...) by Jesse Thorn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:26:16 -0400 From: "WALTER H. APPEL" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Glencoe Albatross "D'OH"!! Message-ID: <37B8AC28.2DF7@erols.com> I will not mention that name again I will not mention that name again I will not mention that name again ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:38:31 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <37B8A0F7.69A9@mars.ark.com> "Also, do you know of a good match for PC-12 (an FS number or ModelMaster/PollyS/Floquil equivalent)?" FWIW, Dave Klaus gives it as FS10166 in "IPMS Color Cross-Reference Guide" and credits Ian Huntley with the information from British Spec. D103. However, I can only find 30166 in my FS595 (which is lusterless and probably more correct, but you can always gloss it if you want). That should be enough for the Colour Cops... Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:38:38 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Speaking of Junkers... Message-ID: <37B8A0FE.3ED9@mars.ark.com> richard eaton wrote: "Has anyone mentioned the Czech Masters J I?..." Nobody ever answered my question about the "Fun Model" 1/48th D-1; how does it stack up, bearing in mind Lenin's dictum, "Best is the enemy of good enough"? Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:59:08 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <19990816.200829.-69489.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:05:47 -0400 (EDT) lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) writes: > Actually Matt, he's less sloppy than I am at times. Hope you took no offense. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:58:34 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <19990816.200829.-69489.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:53:24 -0400 (EDT) "Bob Pearson" writes: > Matt reveals himself to be a man of fine tastes . . . the Tick Rules > !!!!!! The correct scale *and* The Tick. Oh, and Pinky & The Brain. I'm just too wonderful. :-{]~~ > PS E, Where did you find the figure of "the Tick"? and lets see > that > bench when a project is underway They used to be available at toy/comic stores. FWIW, I have the figure of The Mucous Tick. Cool! and gross... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:33:51 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <37B8BBFF.4711485A@black-hole.com> Ernest, Somehow I knew you were a Tic fan:) For those who don't know that is the Blue man in the center of the bench. rob johnson Leonard Endy wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've added Ernest Thomas' workbench photo to the site along with some > recent photos of my Grandson who recently turned one. They can be seen > at: www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm > > Also the "Four Rogues" and the "Alberto Off-Topic" pics, along with > some from the Nats, should be in Allan's hands by the time you read > this. > > Len > -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:44:57 -0400 From: Dave Berry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list Message-ID: <37B8BE99.77301666@total.net> I hope it doesn't mean that it is cylinders only. The kit was such a mess in the nose that I cut out the engine area out and reworked the whole front end. Hence the engine problem. Dave Berry PETER LEONARD wrote: > Mike, what ARE you suggesting?? > > >From: Mike Fletcher > >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list > >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:34:52 -0400 (EDT) > > > >The aeroclub RAF looked like a casting from the Airfix RE8 kit to me... > >-- > >Mike Fletcher ___ ., > >mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; > >mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" > >icq=19554083 @ > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:42:02 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <37B8BDEA.BC720A8C@black-hole.com> Pleas tell me that the Mucous Tick is not made of that slime stuff they had when I was younger;) rob Matthew E Bittner wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:53:24 -0400 (EDT) "Bob Pearson" > writes: > > > Matt reveals himself to be a man of fine tastes . . . the Tick Rules > > !!!!!! > > The correct scale *and* The Tick. Oh, and Pinky & The Brain. I'm just > too wonderful. :-{]~~ > > > PS E, Where did you find the figure of "the Tick"? and lets see > > that > > bench when a project is underway > > They used to be available at toy/comic stores. FWIW, I have the figure > of The Mucous Tick. Cool! and gross... > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:49:14 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <003001bee852$e43e4100$b386aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Thanx! Dave -----Original Message----- From: David & Carol Fletcher To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... >"Also, do you know of a good match for PC-12 (an FS number or >ModelMaster/PollyS/Floquil equivalent)?" > >FWIW, Dave Klaus gives it as FS10166 in "IPMS Color Cross-Reference >Guide" and credits Ian Huntley with the information from British Spec. >D103. However, I can only find 30166 in my FS595 (which is lusterless >and probably more correct, but you can always gloss it if you want). >That should be enough for the Colour Cops... > >Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:50:29 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <003101bee852$e5187460$b386aec7@dora9sprynet.com> I just hope that this jerk tries this in an Islamic country :). DB -----Original Message----- From: ERIC HIGHT To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! >dear mike, >these are not idle accusations. buzz took decals off my table without my >permission and then sold them to ernie(whom i didn't know untill after this >happened), he collected funds via ernies credit card and put the proceeds >in his pocket. i have a copy of the credit card slip and it is not mine. >i did not get paid for the decals. what he charges for things may be >"criminal"(some people think my prices are "criminal") but that's not the >beef here. i had about 20 vendors come up to me after this happened and >say that he has been stealing off of other vendors tables for years and no >body has been able to catch him. i can't speak to these but he did steal >off my table and sell what he stole, THAT IS A FACT! my warning is to >other vendors that may have the misfortune to be next to him at show. i >personally would like to see him banned for any show. as a vendor working >alone you got to be able to trust the vendor next to you when he/she says >i'll watch your table while your gone. as to ripping off his customers i >have heard nothing on that. i filed a police report. the authorities do >not seem to want to do anything about this petty theft(20.00). i would >warn any one putting on a vending event to beware of this guy. there is >not much else i can do but put out the word. i have the proof and i am >sure ernie will back me up. >eric > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:52:39 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <005201bee853$312524c0$b386aec7@dora9sprynet.com> I picked up a resin kit of 'Little Wooden Boy' (from 'The Tick' for those of you not in the know) at the Nats. Finally, a new friend to go on patrol with! Spoooooon! DB -----Original Message----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 8:14 PM Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo >On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:53:24 -0400 (EDT) "Bob Pearson" > writes: > >> Matt reveals himself to be a man of fine tastes . . . the Tick Rules >> !!!!!! > >The correct scale *and* The Tick. Oh, and Pinky & The Brain. I'm just >too wonderful. :-{]~~ > >> PS E, Where did you find the figure of "the Tick"? and lets see >> that >> bench when a project is underway > >They used to be available at toy/comic stores. FWIW, I have the figure >of The Mucous Tick. Cool! and gross... > > >Matt Bittner >http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook >http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:01:54 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <37B8D0A2.2A2D@bellsouth.net> ERIC HIGHT wrote: > i have the proof and i am > sure ernie will back me up. I'm covering your six Eric. Sorry for the delay, but I was working too damned late. But hey, I gotta recover from the nats somehow. It's pretty much just like Eric described it. In fact, it just like Eric described it. Don't see how I could add to it. I do have to say this though. I consider it a blessing in disguise. I know that's easy for me to say seeing as how I wasn't the actual victim here. But this unfortunate incident is how Eric and I met, and after lots of indignant cursing and several drinks, I was able to convince Eric to join our little band. And I think that was a real good thing. We now have a manufacturer of our favorite subjects who works in our favorite scale on this list who's also all ears when it comes to suggestions on what we want. And Eric is now in daily contact with almost 200 people who are most likely to buy his products. None of this justifies Buzz's actions, but I doubt I would have met Eric if it hadn't happened. Funny how the Tao just works sometimes. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:07:11 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list Message-ID: <37B8D1DF.66552936@mars.ark.com> It may have included a cylinder block - but the cylinders looked the same as from the kit with that weird threaded look (much like a casting of a bolt). I don't have much on the RAF engines but I doubt they have threaded cylinders -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:12:06 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Re: Rhinebeck Reminder Message-ID: <001101bee85e$4a058c40$287433cf@Pvosburg> Brad, in re: the Rhinebeck trip, I'll definitely be there. I'm still trying to figure out how Cam and I missed you and Kevin back in June... maybe we can actually hook up this time. Anybody else game? Regards, DV ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:45:23 -0500 From: "Eli Geher" To: Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <00f101bee863$04d18980$846186d0@eligeher> I'm afraid this is an old story. We had complaints about this guy from other vendors at our show in Poughkeepsie, NY around '92 or thereabouts. The next year, when he called to reserve tables, we just told him we were sold out. He told us he'd come anyway and set up in the parking lot, but he never showed as far as I can recall. I don't know if he's ever been there since, because that was just about the time I left the area. Its one of those problems that no one seems to know how to deal with. Eli -----Original Message----- From: ERIC HIGHT > i had about 20 vendors come up to me after this happened and >say that he has been stealing off of other vendors tables for years and no >body has been able to catch him ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:04:29 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc Message-ID: <37B8DF4D.2B25@bellsouth.net> Michael Kendix wrote: > Yes, I had a problem with the Eduard, 11/72 Sopwith Strutter single > seater's cabane "W" struts, but that may have been due to incompetence on > my part. It's still a great kit. Do tell! I also have two of those in this pile of kits I'm building. What exactly was the problem you ran into? E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:10:48 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <37B8E0C8.3F9A@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > PS E, Where did you find the figure of "the Tick"? and lets see that > bench when a project is underway Iirc, I got that figure at Wally World(Walmart), or maybe Toy-r-Us And there is a project underway on that bench. Look close and you'll see the fuselage with bottom wing of my AWARD WINNING! :) N.17 sitting on the black punch pad. But, yeah, you found me out. That pic was taken after I just got that bench and it hasn't been that neat and organized since that picture was taken. E. Btw, I also have an Arthur figure, but my daughter pulled his wings off(OUCH!!!) and I haven't been able to find the port side yet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:22:52 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <37B8E39C.22A1@bellsouth.net> roguerpj wrote: > > Ernest, > > Somehow I knew you were a Tic fan:) For those who don't know that is the > Blue man in the center of the bench. That would be the 'Neigh Invulnerable' blue man in the center of the bench. He keeps all the evil away, btw. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:02:09 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <199908170512.WAA21917@mail.rapidnet.net> Oh the feindish child. ... the bunny-guy without his wings . . .. .. to get us on-topic: FLASH QUIZ: What is the term for a wingless aircraft used in training .. both the English and the French terms please. Bob (who has 12 hours of "the Tick" on tape and regularily watches it thanks to the excellent taste of a four year old in prefering that to Star Wars) ---------- >From: Ernest Thomas >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo >Date: Mon, Aug 16, 1999, 9:10 PM > > Bob Pearson wrote: > >> PS E, Where did you find the figure of "the Tick"? and lets see that >> bench when a project is underway > > Iirc, I got that figure at Wally World(Walmart), or maybe Toy-r-Us > And there is a project underway on that bench. Look close and you'll see > the fuselage with bottom wing of my AWARD WINNING! :) N.17 sitting on > the black punch pad. > But, yeah, you found me out. That pic was taken after I just got that > bench and it hasn't been that neat and organized since that picture was > taken. > E. > Btw, I also have an Arthur figure, but my daughter pulled his wings > off(OUCH!!!) and I haven't been able to find the port side yet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:21:40 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: Bob asks: <> That would be the penguin (my absolute favorite animal) and the roullers (forgive the terrible spelling...'tis late). Now... off to get some sleep... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:47:49 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475A13@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dave, > "Also, do you know of a good match for PC-12 (an FS number or > ModelMaster/PollyS/Floquil equivalent)?" > > FWIW, Dave Klaus gives it as FS10166 in "IPMS Color Cross-Reference > Guide" and credits Ian Huntley with the information from British Spec. > D103. However, I can only find 30166 in my FS595 (which is lusterless > and probably more correct, but you can always gloss it if you want). > That should be enough for the Colour Cops... Acetate dopes start out extremely glossy. How long they stay that way in service is a matter of conjecture (though mirror finishes on in service aircraft are easy to find) but I'd say that the call for gloss on *new* paint is absolutely correct Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:05:12 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Control Horns Message-ID: <19990817100513.65935.qmail@hotmail.com> Whatever it is I'll take a dozen Peter >From: smperry@mindspring.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Control Horns >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:42:00 -0400 (EDT) > >What's a reasonable size (in 1:1) for a typical control horn? 4 - 5 inches >long by 11/2 - 2 at the base? > >I have a posssibility to get some etched brass made and I need to get an >idea before I draw up the art work. > >TIA >sp > >E-mail smperry@mindspring.com >Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:24:18 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <19990817.053122.-84611.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:30:28 -0400 (EDT) roguerpj writes: > Pleas tell me that the Mucous Tick is not made of that slime stuff > they > had when I was younger;) No, just clearish, pliable rubber. Still gross feeling... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:16:34 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: Ah, yes, but when are you going to finish those scratch built figures of Die Fleidermaus and El Seed? (Not in the face, not in the face!) Paul A. Schwartzkopf >>> Ernest Thomas 08/16/1999 11:10:41 PM >>> Bob Pearson wrote: > PS E, Where did you find the figure of "the Tick"? and lets see that > bench when a project is underway Iirc, I got that figure at Wally World(Walmart), or maybe Toy-r-Us And there is a project underway on that bench. Look close and you'll see the fuselage with bottom wing of my AWARD WINNING! :) N.17 sitting on the black punch pad. But, yeah, you found me out. That pic was taken after I just got that bench and it hasn't been that neat and organized since that picture was taken. E. Btw, I also have an Arthur figure, but my daughter pulled his wings off(OUCH!!!) and I haven't been able to find the port side yet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:24:14 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Torque question Message-ID: I seem to remember reading that the Camel's fuselage was too short. Everything of mass was up in the front 6 feet or so, presenting the airframe with an "unusual" forward center of gravity. This caused it to fly just barely this side of stable. This instability is what allowed it to be an excellent fighter, but it also had the drawback of being unforgiving to pilots who were not on top of it. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >>> Mike Fletcher 08/16/1999 7:25:06 PM >>> They were no more closely grouped than on any of the Nieuports (whose grouping it copied) - though there was more mass there (2 guns vs 1 etc). Early Camels had similar power to the late Nieuports so that common effect on control is not a factor. Neither is ground sit as the Nieuports seem to sit at a higher angle. The thrust line in relation to the centres of lift/weight and drag may be the cause - a too small or large metacentric height could account for its dangerous behaviour. FWIW it seems that there is evidence to suggest the Camel killed more British pilots than German... -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ Shane Weier wrote: > > Tom, > > > Anyone else given any though as to why the Camel is apparently singled > > out as to being difficult to control due to the torque due to > > the rotary engine? > > Clearly it seems odd given that there were many other rotary powered > aircraft. > > In fact, the Camels problem (and strength) arose form the combination of a > relatively powerful rotary with an airframe in which all the heavy items - > engine, fuel, guns, ammo, pilot - were closely grouped. The consequence is > that the engine torque effect is greater than in an aircraft where this is > not the case. > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:15:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Web Site Maintenance Message-ID: <199908171315.JAA14826@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi Everyone! I've added 2 new items to the website, a page of photos from the 99 Nationals and some more models on Courtney Allen's page. I have also re-formatted the News page on the site. I grouped past months updated by month. As some of you may have noticed, the maintenance of the site has increased in workload for me in the past couple of months, essentially doubling from earlier months (compare June & July to April & May). While this is good, I also have had to recently turn away material for the site, something I hoped I never would have to do. I will not ever turn down model images, articles on building techniques or similar material. Sometimes I may have to turn away reference material such as photos of aircraft already well represented on the site. If I do so I will always be willing to link to pages others create with this material. This is a great site to run, and you're all great people to work with. I just have to balance this with ACTUAL modeling, work, etc. Enjoy the new material, and keep it coming! Thanks, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:29:25 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Workbench Photo Message-ID: <19990817.053122.-84611.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:03:16 -0400 (EDT) "Bob Pearson" writes: > Oh the feindish child. ... the bunny-guy without his wings . . .. .. "I am NOT a bunny!" Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:22:46 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: 1/72 Eduard 1-seat Strutter/ was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc Message-ID: <19990817132247.34822.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: Ernest Thomas >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:06:03 -0400 (EDT) > >Michael Kendix wrote: > > > Yes, I had a problem with the Eduard, 11/72 Sopwith Strutter single > > seater's cabane "W" struts, but that may have been due to incompetence >on > > my part. It's still a great kit. > >Do tell! I also have two of those in this pile of kits I'm building. >What exactly was the problem you ran into? >E. Ernest: Well, as I said, the "W" cabane struts didn't fit when I had glued on the top wing to the interplane struts. I tried hard to ensure the correct angle by looking at it sideways and from the top view looking down, but still the "W" struts didn't reach or were too long (depending on whether it was the fore or aft set). I'm not blaming Eduard. Aside from possibly getting the angle of the interplane struts wrong, another opportunity for error is the dihedral angle of the lower wings. With the TOKO kits, the lower wing is in 1 piece and contains a bit of the lower fuselage and cockpit floor, so you can't mess up the dihedral. With the Eduard kit, if you get the dihedral wrong by only 2 degrees, the fit goes out the window. The solution is, however, simple. I just used some thin plastic rod, which I fitted and trimmed until it fit right. Of course, it takes 4 pieces of rod per "W" strut - 8 for the entire kit - and this takes time but I'm not concerned about that. If you want to get really fancy, you can sand down the rod into the elipse shape it is supposed to be for those struts (I didn't do it because I was afraid it' break). Or, if you can find some thin enough Strutz" material, use that. In reality (pictures in the Datafile), those struts are separate pieces. Michael _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:44:07 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Salmson 2A2 Message-ID: <19990817134408.90900.qmail@hotmail.com> I keep gravitating to the VAMP models page to see if he's posted a picture of the Artur Salmson yet, no luck so far. I'll have to bite the bullet soon though. Anybody know the kit? If not, what's the opinion Artur kits in general. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:04:23 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Torque question Message-ID: <00e401bee8b8$74d9a640$08e8b094@sandyada> >They were no more closely grouped than on any of the Nieuports (whose >grouping it copied) You're maybe omitting the heaviest item of all here though - the pilot - I'd have to check, but from memory he's quite a bit further back in a Nie than a Camel isn't he? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:01:27 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Salmson 2A2 Message-ID: <00f601bee8b9$01c90e60$08e8b094@sandyada> I've asked the same question Peter but no reply either. I have however got a very nice 1/48 vac from Wings48 which is unstarted as yet. I got this from AviationUSK via the Internet - can't remember cost but it was not too dear. Kit comes with metal parts and a really comprehensive transfer sheet for every US 2A2 Squadron. I doubt the Artur will be as good as I infer from price etc that it is an old kit? The Wings vac is crisp and looks good. HTH Sandy -----Original Message----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 17 August 1999 14:49 Subject: Salmson 2A2 >I keep gravitating to the VAMP models page to see if he's posted a picture >of the Artur Salmson yet, no luck so far. I'll have to bite the bullet soon >though. Anybody know the kit? If not, what's the opinion Artur kits in >general. > >Peter Leonard >IPMS UK >Lancashire & Cheshire Branch >http://www.storks.cwc.net >http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com >PeterL@cwcom.net > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:43:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Jesse Thorn To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Lonestar J.I (was Re: Speaking of Junkers...) Message-ID: I made the Lonestar 1/48 kit. The vac currugated skin was OK, but required a bit of cleanup with some jewelers files. Not that much work IMHO. I really liked the way the kit came out - it is big and impressive when placed next to a single seater! One of these days I will borrow a camera and get some pix. --Jesse >Lonestar's kit is a J.I, the "furniture van", right? > >Seems like vacuform is a poor medium for the corrugated skin.... > >Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1781 **********************