WWI Digest 1779 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by Shane Weier 2) Tires & Glencoes by "David Vosburgh" 3) Re: Rubber Tires (was: Tires & Glencoes) by "Allan Wright" 4) Re: Tires & Glencoes by "PETER LEONARD" 5) Nieuport 17 replica in Pilot magazine by "Knasinski, Joseph" 6) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by Jesse Thorn 7) Re: RE: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by GRBroman@aol.com 8) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by "Michael Kendix" 9) Shark Infested Waters (was Thief....etc) by "PETER LEONARD" 10) Re: Tires & Glencoes by "DAVID BURKE" 11) Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by ERIC HIGHT 13) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by "DAVID BURKE" 14) Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Alphabeti Spaghetti by "PETER LEONARD" 16) Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti by "DAVID BURKE" 17) Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti by "Courtney Allen" 18) New photos by Jim Landon 19) Re: Tires & Glencoes by bucky@ptdprolog.net 20) Re: Junkers J I by "Sandy Adam" 21) Re: Shark Infested Waters (was Thief....etc) by "Sandy Adam" 22) Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti by Allan Wright 23) Speaking of Junkers... by Allan Wright 24) Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti by "PETER LEONARD" 25) Re: Speaking of Junkers... by "Lance Krieg" 26) Re: Speaking of Junkers... by "Courtney Allen" 27) Re: Speaking of Junkers... by "Courtney Allen" 28) Re: Speaking of Junkers... by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:48:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475A0B@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Glens comments: > I know this is heresy, but I picked up some photos at theRIA > museum for a > project I'm building for the Rock Island Arsenal display > later this year. > It's an HP 0/400 in US service postwar. It has an Arsenal > designed bomb rack > for a whacking great bomb used during the period of the > Mitchell bombing > trials. A bit off topic, as it is all QMC OD, but not PC-10 > nonetheless. > The last one I did was overall NIVO. I'm afraid there is no > way getting > around the PC -10 thing for the Comic though :). I have a lengthy article somewhere by Ian Huntley in which he traces the evolution of US OD from PC.10 IIRC in the early post WW1 period there was no difference whatever, and this may well apply to the HP in question - in which case it's PC.10 after all. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:46:13 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Tires & Glencoes Message-ID: <001501bee7ed$c8bc4680$79d690d0@Pvosburg> Hello All, Last night Walter wrote: "Last, just what is wrong with the Glencoe Albatros DIII? I'm curious"... which brought to mind what I consider to be the single funniest post I've seen on the list. Somebody last winter posted a request for a "brief review" of the Glencoe D.III, and James D. Gray sent back a classic two-word reply: "Nothing fits." Anyway, I'm de-lurking long enough to ask if anyone has any suggestions on how to deal with the soft rubber tires on a 'tween-wars Polish armored car (o/t, but I'm using it to warm up for the A7V I got from Gerry's closet-cleaning sale). It's been about twenty years since I did armor... what does one use to prep them for paint, and is there in fact any paint that will stick to them? TIA, DV nb: still that stupid Airfix Pup nu: Encore wz.34/Maquette D.H.9a nl: Angelo Badalamenti's creepy soundtrack to 'Twin Peaks' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:51:30 -0400 From: "Allan Wright" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rubber Tires (was: Tires & Glencoes) Message-ID: <9908160951.ZM8894@pease1.sr.unh.edu> On Aug 16, 9:42am, David Vosburgh wrote: > Anyway, I'm de-lurking long enough to ask if anyone has any suggestions on how to deal > with the soft rubber tires on a 'tween-wars Polish armored car (o/t, but I'm using it to > warm up for the A7V I got from Gerry's closet-cleaning sale). It's been about twenty years > since I did armor... what does one use to prep them for paint, and is there in fact any > paint that will stick to them? For Barry's Rubber O-ring tires I wash them with rubbing alcohol and then after it dries I just give them a quick blast with Dullcote, which is flat clear laquer for those outside the U.S. after that any paint will stick, although sometimes I just leave them natural with the flat, sometimes a little drybrush of earthtones to denote mud and grime..... -Al ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:08:20 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tires & Glencoes Message-ID: <19990816140831.62009.qmail@hotmail.com> Are we talking abou PVC tyres? Back when Pontious was a pilot, and I dabbled in war games figures, we used to give Airfix OO figures a coat of Copydex before painting. Seemed to work. On the Glencoe Albatros, when it first appeared in my local model shop the proprietor said, "This is a new mold, none of that re-tread Aurora rubbish". On the strength of which recomendation I bought two. Yes I know, he's not stopped laughing yet either. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net >From: "David Vosburgh" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Tires & Glencoes >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:42:02 -0400 (EDT) > >Hello All, > >Last night Walter wrote: "Last, just what is wrong with the Glencoe >Albatros DIII? I'm >curious"... which brought to mind what I consider to be the single funniest >post I've seen >on the list. Somebody last winter posted a request for a "brief review" of >the Glencoe >D.III, and James D. Gray sent back a classic two-word reply: "Nothing >fits." > >Anyway, I'm de-lurking long enough to ask if anyone has any suggestions on >how to deal >with the soft rubber tires on a 'tween-wars Polish armored car (o/t, but >I'm using it to >warm up for the A7V I got from Gerry's closet-cleaning sale). It's been >about twenty years >since I did armor... what does one use to prep them for paint, and is there >in fact any >paint that will stick to them? > >TIA, > >DV >nb: still that stupid Airfix Pup >nu: Encore wz.34/Maquette D.H.9a >nl: Angelo Badalamenti's creepy soundtrack to 'Twin Peaks' > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:35:22 -0400 From: "Knasinski, Joseph" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Nieuport 17 replica in Pilot magazine Message-ID: In the magazine aisle of my local hobby shop this weekend, I came across the British magazine called Pilot. It was the July issue. On the cover was a photo of a Nieuport 17 in flight. I bought the magazine and it contains a nice article about a full-size Nieuport 17 replica that took 5 years and 5000 hours to build. Some changes from the original such as the use of a radial engine instead of a rotary some lower wing strengthening were made but it looks good overall. The article has some very good photos of the craft in flight and well as some nice shots of the cockpit. If you can find the magazine, I'd recommend you take a look. Joseph Knasinski "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, 'cuz you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup." - Anon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jesse Thorn To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: Are you refering to Buzz of Land Sea and Air Hobbies in Arlington VA? The fellow in the black leather fisherman's cap? As with all merchants, CAVEAT EMPTOR! Especially with Buzz. He has something of a bad reputation in the Carolinas. --Jesse >ERIC HIGHT wrote: > >> ernie, >> no i did not. hell i did not have time to look at the contest models. my >> only real regret, besides the minor problem we had with you know who. >> eric > >Why so discreet? I say we rat him out. >Hey everybody, the guy at Land Sea and Air hobbies is a thief. Don't do >business with him. >At least I think it's Land Sea and Air. It could be Air Land and Sea. >Faq it. It something to do with three elements hobbies. But the guy's a >thief all the same. >There, how's that? >E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:41:01 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: RE: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <25107e5f.24e97cfd@aol.com> In a message dated 8/16/99, 8:50:51 AM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: <> Shane, why ya wanna do this to me :). Actualy, the US OD shade from this period does not look like the same shade we all equate with WW II OD so it really isn't that far off PC-10. At least I don;t have to mask off and do CDL on the undersides ads the photos show the underside and it's all one color. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:08:13 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <19990816150817.29787.qmail@hotmail.com> Folks: In all my "experiences" with "Air Land & Sea", I cannot claim that Buzz Polistock is a thief, so when you write stuff like that, you need to have substantive evidence of any wrongdoing. I've, however, seen one or two adverse comments in the past but have refrained from adding to these. I know that some people, including myself, regard his prices as excessive, however, that's his own business, both literally and figuratively. The only time that he has really upset me was when I was at the Northern Virginia "Model Classic" show in Fairfax, VA. He was one of the vendors present. I was looking through APC Hobbies' stack of old kits and noticed someone had "pulled" a stack of kits including an 1/72nd Airfix DH-2. When I touched said box, Mr. Polistock said something like "Those are mine". I resented vendors being permitted to sort through some of these bargains since I had paid an entry fee etc., and I knew that Mr. Polistock was going to turn around and sell this kit for at least double the $4 it was priced. I realize that Mr. Polistock's activities did not actually break any rules but I still think his behaviour on that occasion was mildly reprehensible. I complained to the contest organizers (after congratulating them first on an excellent show, of course). The man at the APC table was most kind when I expressed my dismay, and he let me have a couple of dollars off my purchase. I can only speculate on the source of Mr. Polistock's somewhat bizarre behaviour but suffice to say that it and his prices have been the source of some aggravation to me and some of my acquaintances. All this would not stop me from buying from Mr. Polistock were he to sell at prices I thought reasonable; for example, I purchased two 2nd hand Datafiles for $5 each. Michael >From: Jesse Thorn >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:40:32 -0400 (EDT) > >Are you refering to Buzz of Land Sea and Air Hobbies in Arlington VA? The >fellow in the black leather fisherman's cap? > >As with all merchants, CAVEAT EMPTOR! Especially with Buzz. He has >something of a bad reputation in the Carolinas. > >--Jesse > > >ERIC HIGHT wrote: > > > >> ernie, > >> no i did not. hell i did not have time to look at the contest models. >my > >> only real regret, besides the minor problem we had with you know who. > >> eric > > > >Why so discreet? I say we rat him out. > >Hey everybody, the guy at Land Sea and Air hobbies is a thief. Don't do > >business with him. > >At least I think it's Land Sea and Air. It could be Air Land and Sea. > >Faq it. It something to do with three elements hobbies. But the guy's a > >thief all the same. > >There, how's that? > >E. > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:26:46 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Shark Infested Waters (was Thief....etc) Message-ID: <19990816152648.87517.qmail@hotmail.com> So it's not ony in the UK then. One I recall at our nationals. It was just as the Eduard EIII was announced as OOP, the importer (FourPlus) had lots on the stand and was selling them at the original asking price. In the same hall other dealers had them marked "OOP Collectors item" at twice the price. Guess where I bought mine. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:11:48 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Tires & Glencoes Message-ID: <007401bee7fb$6614cf80$ae87aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >nl: Angelo Badalamenti's creepy soundtrack to 'Twin Peaks' > > Julee Cruise! Yeah Baby! DB (Hammering out the Albatros D.V with great gusto) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:23:29 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <007601bee7fb$67a7a480$ae87aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Shane, Where can I find a copy of this article? Also, do you know of a good match for PC-12 (an FS number or ModelMaster/PollyS/Floquil equivalent)? DB >I have a lengthy article somewhere by Ian Huntley in which he traces the >evolution of US OD from PC.10 IIRC in the early post WW1 period there was >no difference whatever, and this may well apply to the HP in question - in >which case it's PC.10 after all. > >Shane >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. >E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:27:13 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990816082713.007170d8@pop.amug.org> erinie, while we are at it here's his name buzz polistock. eric jesse, yes, we are talking about buzz he has that same rep up and down the east coast. it's bad enough that people steal from your table, you expect it from some participants at a show, but not to have the vendor next to you steal off your table and then sell it to someone else and put the money in his pocket. if he has burned you as a customer then you need to make fsm aware of this and if they get enough complaints they will pull his ad and ban him from any more ads. there you got me all riled up! thanks. eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:30:22 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <007b01bee7fc$42de6ac0$ae87aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >Folks: > >In all my "experiences" with "Air Land & Sea", I cannot claim that Buzz >Polistock is a thief, so when you write stuff like that, you need to have >substantive evidence of any wrongdoing. I am, as usual, sticking my big schnozz in something that doesn't concern me personally, but seeing as how I was there and heard the whole story firsthand from Eric and Ernie on the night that this happened, let me assure all that there is evidence of wrongdoing, and that it does not relate to prices, service, or anything that a sorehead might gripe about. Actually, the assertions made are more of a criminal nature, and I'll leave it at that. Elaborate, Ernie. Otherwise Michael, I commend your advice, as it is always prudent to make sure that there is no slander before deserved mud is slung. But in this case..... DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:32:51 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <008501bee7fc$9b971fe0$ae87aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >jesse, >yes, we are talking about buzz he has that same rep up and down the east >coast. it's bad enough that people steal from your table, you expect it >from some participants at a show, but not to have the vendor next to you >steal off your table and then sell it to someone else and put the money in >his pocket. Yeah Eric, but at least you have the dope on him - I say NAIL HIS ASS TO THE WALL! Whatta Putz! DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:37:42 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Alphabeti Spaghetti Message-ID: <19990816153743.60369.qmail@hotmail.com> erm....as the new kid on the block I'm slightly puzzled by these algebraic bits'n'bobs tacked on to the end of some messages. nl, nb, naacp and so on. Wozzat? Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:39:21 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti Message-ID: <000601bee7fd$853d93e0$ae87aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Peter, Try the FAQ section of the WWI page and it will give you a guide to alot of these anagrams. It does take a bit to get used to them! Cheers! DB -----Original Message----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 10:39 AM Subject: Alphabeti Spaghetti >erm....as the new kid on the block I'm slightly puzzled by these algebraic >bits'n'bobs tacked on to the end of some messages. >nl, nb, naacp and so on. Wozzat? > >Peter Leonard >IPMS UK >Lancashire & Cheshire Branch >http://www.storks.cwc.net >http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com >PeterL@cwcom.net > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:47:55 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti Message-ID: <001501bee7fe$b605dea0$2666480c@courtney> Peter I'm fairly new as well. Go to the WWI Modeler Page and click on FAQ. The abbreviations are listed there. Courtney Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 8:38 AM Subject: Alphabeti Spaghetti > erm....as the new kid on the block I'm slightly puzzled by these algebraic > bits'n'bobs tacked on to the end of some messages. > nl, nb, naacp and so on. Wozzat? > > Peter Leonard > IPMS UK > Lancashire & Cheshire Branch > http://www.storks.cwc.net > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > PeterL@cwcom.net > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:02:36 -0700 From: Jim Landon To: smperry@mindspring.com Cc: WWI List , Jim Landon Subject: New photos Message-ID: <37B84427.76BA4757@lmco.com> Just checked to see if there were any new pictures on the wwi site, and discovered Steven Perry's I'lya "details under construction" pics. Thanks for posting them Steven and Allan. I for one enjoy seeing "under construction" pics. And I appreciate seeing the "Lessons Learned" ... like don't try to use copper armature wire for rib battens. The other shots look like you're doing a super job. Keep up the good work and keep showing us the progress shots. - Jim Landon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:28:03 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tires & Glencoes Message-ID: <37B83C13.2A4DCF6B@ptdprolog.net> That's here name. It's been driving me nuts trying to remember. Off to the record stoe to see if they have her old CD. Mike Muth DAVID BURKE wrote: > >nl: Angelo Badalamenti's creepy soundtrack to 'Twin Peaks' > > > > > Julee Cruise! Yeah Baby! > > DB > > (Hammering out the Albatros D.V with great gusto) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:10:57 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Junkers J I Message-ID: <005e01bee80b$a4d72500$2fe8b094@sandyada> I did the BM one Courtney, I'll look back at the refs I used. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Courtney Allen To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 16 August 1999 05:51 Subject: Junkers J I >I am currently working on the 1/48 scale Junkers J I by Lone Star. Although >there is a photo copy of the cockpit, it's not very clear or complete. Does >any one know of additional cockpit details for the Junkers? I have the Data >File on the aircraft but there are no cockpit photos. > >Courtney Allen > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:14:42 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Shark Infested Waters (was Thief....etc) Message-ID: <006001bee80b$a67ac2e0$2fe8b094@sandyada> And Geoff Stanley was selling them at half price - I bought too many (too many to carry that is!) Sandy -----Original Message----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 16 August 1999 16:34 Subject: Shark Infested Waters (was Thief....etc) >So it's not ony in the UK then. One I recall at our nationals. It was just >as the Eduard EIII was announced as OOP, the importer (FourPlus) had lots on >the stand and was selling them at the original asking price. In the same >hall other dealers had them marked "OOP Collectors item" at twice the >price. Guess where I bought mine. > >Peter Leonard >IPMS UK >Lancashire & Cheshire Branch >http://www.storks.cwc.net >http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com >PeterL@cwcom.net > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:27:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti Message-ID: <199908161727.NAA10411@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > erm....as the new kid on the block I'm slightly puzzled by these algebraic > bits'n'bobs tacked on to the end of some messages. > nl, nb, naacp and so on. Wozzat? >From the FAQ: >From time to time, you may see the following acronyms floating around the list. While most are considered "internet in general", there are a few that are list specific. AFAIK: As Far As I Know BTW: By The Way FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions FWIW: For What It's Worth IIRC: If I Recall Correctly IMHO: In My Honest Opinion, or In My Humble Opinion IMNSHO: In My Not So Honest Opinion ROTFL: Rolling On The Floor Laughing RTFD: Read The F Directions RTFM: Read The F Manual RTMS: Read The Manual Stupid SMBIKA: Stop Me Before I Kill Again SWBU: Shake Well Before Using SWMBO: She Who Must Be Obeyed TETE: This End Towards Enemy TIA: Thanks In Advance TTFN: Ta Ta For Now WTFDTM: What The FAQ Does That Mean YMMV: Your milage may vary In the same vein, there are a few abbreviations that should be explained: A-H: Austro-Hungary/ian AEG: Allgemeinen Electrizitats Gesellschaft (Berlin, Germany) Alb: Albatros B.E.: Bleriot Experimental C: French: Chasse or Pursuit (single-seat fighter)/ German: two-seat recc. CA: Crazy Glue (i.e. cyanoacrylate) D: Doppledecker (German Biplane) DFW: Deutsch Flugzeug Werke Dr: Dreidecker (German Triplane) E: Eindecker (German Monoplane) Esc: Escadrille F.E.: Farman Experimental Fok: Fokker G: Grossfleugzeuge (German Large airplane) LFG: Luftfahrzeug Gesellschaft LVG: Luft-Verkehrs Gesellschaft LWF: Lowe, Willard, and Fowler (USA) MS: Morane Saulnier MoS: Morane Saulnier N: Nieuport Nie: Nieuport P/E: Photoetched RAE: Royal Aircraft Establishment RAF: Royal Air Force R.E.: Recconaissance Experimental RFC: Royal Flying Corps RNAS: Royal Naval Air Service S.E.: Scout Experimental (originally Santos-Dumont Experimental) SSW: Siemens-Schukert Werkes T-M: Thomas Morse In addition, the list has come up with some abbreviations to show what one is currely working on. These are: nb: Now Building, i.e. what is currently on the bench, and actively being worked on nu: Next Up; this shows what the next model is after the nb is complete. sitnf: Sometime In The Near Future; you see yourself working on this model at some forseable future point. fdtr: Further Down The Road; another model that you see yourself working on, after the sitnf one. np: Now Playing; some members are avid music listeners, sometime listening to music while they build. This is what they are currently listening to. nr: Now Reading; this is the current book, article of periodicle one is currently reading. =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Speaking of Junkers... Message-ID: <199908161729.NAA10456@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Speaking of Junkers, I think I've mentioned this before, but any options to do the Junkers D-I othere than the Warbirds Vac? I've already ruined one of these - the gull wings kicked my ass..... Never got the parts cut off the sheet properly..... -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:42:11 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alphabeti Spaghetti Message-ID: <19990816174211.55605.qmail@hotmail.com> Thanks Alan, been there, done that, bought the tee-shirt ;¬) Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:28:26 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Speaking of Junkers... Message-ID: You guys are confusing me... Lonestar's kit is a J.I, the "furniture van", right? Blue Max did the D.I, the single seater that's in Sandy's gallery on the Web page. Now Allan's asking about the Warbirds' vac, which must be 1/72 to have escaped my attention. Seems like vacuform is a poor medium for the corrugated skin.... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:43:16 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Speaking of Junkers... Message-ID: <000901bee817$34ea1340$e805480c@courtney> Al I have the CZECH MASTER all resin Junkers D I kit. Although I haven't built it as yet, it looks pretty good. Adding some after market parts (ie. engine, photo guns, etc.) would be of help. Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 10:30 AM Subject: Speaking of Junkers... > Speaking of Junkers, I think I've mentioned this before, but any options > to do the Junkers D-I othere than the Warbirds Vac? I've already ruined > one of these - the gull wings kicked my ass..... Never got the parts cut > off the sheet properly..... > > -Al > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! > University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > ============================================================================ === ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:48:38 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Speaking of Junkers... Message-ID: <001101bee817$f455ad20$e805480c@courtney> You are correct in all counts. CZECH MASTER has a 1/48 scale kit of the D-I that's pretty good. I haven't seen a copy of the Blue Max. It came out before I got back in the hobby. Vacuform is a pain for corrugation. Lone Star is thinking about making the Junkers J-I totally out of resin. Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Speaking of Junkers... > You guys are confusing me... > > Lonestar's kit is a J.I, the "furniture van", right? > > Blue Max did the D.I, the single seater that's in Sandy's gallery on the Web page. > > Now Allan's asking about the Warbirds' vac, which must be 1/72 to have escaped my attention. > > Seems like vacuform is a poor medium for the corrugated skin.... > > Lance > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:06:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Speaking of Junkers... Message-ID: <199908161906.PAA10916@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > I have the CZECH MASTER all resin Junkers D I kit. Although I haven't built > it as yet, it looks pretty good. Adding some after market parts (ie. > engine, photo guns, etc.) would be of help. > > > Speaking of Junkers, I think I've mentioned this before, but any options > > to do the Junkers D-I othere than the Warbirds Vac? I've already ruined > > one of these - the gull wings kicked my ass..... Never got the parts cut > > off the sheet properly..... Oh, I forgot to mention I'm only really interested in 1/72 scale..... =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1779 **********************