WWI Digest 1778 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Ilya Referances (Was Re: My day and decals for the taking) by roguerpj 2) Questions by "WALTER H. APPEL" 3) Lets try this again, Questions by "WALTER H. APPEL" 4) Re: Questions by bucky@ptdprolog.net 5) Re: Lets try this again, Questions by bucky@ptdprolog.net 6) Re: Lets try this again, Questions by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 7) Re: me am back by "DAVID BURKE" 8) Re: Lets try this again, Questions by Zulis@aol.com 9) Re: Ilya Referances (Was Re: My day and decals for the taking) by Matthew E Bittner 10) Re: Back On Line by Ernest Thomas 11) Re: me am back by Ernest Thomas 12) Re: Ilya Referances (Was Re: My day and decals for the taking) by roguerpj 13) RE: NEWS FLASH! by Shane Weier 14) RE: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! by Shane Weier 15) A/C hardware question by "DAVID BURKE" 16) Re: Lets try this again, Questions by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 17) Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by GRBroman@aol.com 18) Junkers J I by "Courtney Allen" 19) Re: A/C hardware question by Bill Shatzer 20) Re: A/C hardware question by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Hawker and Spins by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: Easy Cabane Struts was RE: was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc by Ernest Thomas 23) Thief, was Re: Gotha! by Ernest Thomas 24) Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by "PETER LEONARD" 25) Re: New original SPAD 13 pics by "Len Smith" 26) Re: NEWS FLASH! by "Len Smith" 27) Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list by "Len Smith" 28) Re: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted by "Marshall J. Curtis" 29) Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list by Mike Fletcher 30) Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list by "PETER LEONARD" 31) Dawn Of Aces - flight sim/game by "Kitsch design <\"Kitsch design\"" 32) Re: Easy Cabane Struts was RE: was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc by Matthew E Bittner 33) Re: Junkers J I by Matthew E Bittner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:07:07 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Ilya Referances (Was Re: My day and decals for the taking) Message-ID: <37B7562B.BC40D2CA@black-hole.com> The kit I have is by a company from the Ukraine call ICM. It came with a book (in russian) on the Ilya. I am not really building this at this time just collecting references. Steve Perry of this list is actively constructing this kit and was kind enough to send me several articles by Harry Woodman as well as the FSM article by Bob Rice you mentioned. I got the kit from NKR Models in Australia. The URL is http://www.ballarat.net.au/nkrmodels/. All captions for the pictures have english printing and it is published by a company call Amanda. I might be wrong about this. Can any one else help I don't have access to my copy at this time. There are at leas 5 maybe more people who are working on this plane on the list. Dave Berry wrote: > > You're Building the Ilya? I started to cut plastic on the Maquette kit a few > years ago but stalled for lack of reference. IIRC FSM featured a beautiful > scratchbuilt one with drawings some years back, but it was a different > variant.. Is there any decent reference material on it now? > > Dave Berry > > roguerpj wrote: > > > It is entirely possible. I am vary bad with names. I know he was there. > > I did meet John Roll. It was the only name I had herd before. > > > > Thanks for he phone numbers Brent. Jack was vary helpful and fun to talk > > with. I was wonderful to see the looks on their faces when I told them I > > was doing wwI and that my second plane was going to be the Ilya. It is a > > little like seeing deer caught in headlights :) I had a good time. > > > > rob johnson -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:01:50 -0400 From: "WALTER H. APPEL" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Questions Message-ID: <37B754EE.7EDB@erols.com> Hey guys ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:15:44 -0400 From: "WALTER H. APPEL" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Lets try this again, Questions Message-ID: <37B75830.108@erols.com> Hey guys, providing I hit the right key this time.... Any comments on the Hit Kit Albatros Offags? I've discovered one comes with K Squadron insignia and am interested in them. Also, I understand Insignia Magazine had an issue with Estonian markings in it. If someone could let me know which one that is I'd appreciate it. I was in Estonia, courtesy of the U.S. Army in May and became interested in their war with Russia from 1918-20. Last, just what is wrong with the Glencoe Albatros DIII? I'm curious. The Nieuports have been progressing nicely, though possibly too quickly. Hopefully as I get better at this I'll get slower. My first airbrush on the Testors was interesting. I haven't had that much fun since I rode a buffer across a barracks floor and down some steps during my first GI party. One of those hold the trigger down and try to figure out how to release it deals. The Eduard is a pleasure to work with and, so far, no big problems. I'm already stocking up on kits that I may, or may not, ever build, but somehow I think this is the norm. TIA Walt P.S. Fernando.... The book should actually go out tomorrow, it has been sitting in my briefcase all week. Sorry for the delay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:23:41 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Questions Message-ID: <37B75A0D.D009BC86@ptdprolog.net> Hey Walter. Right back at you. Mike WALTER H. APPEL wrote: > Hey guys ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:27:30 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lets try this again, Questions Message-ID: <37B75AF1.C23A86BC@ptdprolog.net> Walter I kinda like the HitKit models. Some flash to clean up and maybe an engine to replace. However, the decals are great. I think that some of the earlier run kits have less flash....of course there's no way of knowing when your kit was run. I ordered mine right after they came out and there wasn't too much flash to trim. As for the Glencoe Albatros....Nah, I'm not going to start that thread again! hth Mike Muth WALTER H. APPEL wrote: > Hey guys, providing I hit the right key this time.... > > Any comments on the Hit Kit Albatros Offags? I've discovered one comes > with K Squadron insignia and am interested in them. > > Last, just what is wrong with the Glencoe Albatros DIII? I'm curious. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:44:42 -0500 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Lets try this again, Questions Message-ID: <004c01bee780$893c1980$bb9259d8@q1p5x0> >Last, just what is wrong with the Glencoe Albatros DIII? I'm curious. Nice decals and box art...toss the plastic parts and buy the Eduard Albatros DIII. fuselage master appears to have been carved out of soap, wings need to be cut down, mega flash, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:57:59 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: me am back Message-ID: <008a01bee782$64ebeae0$3c51c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> The only remotely interesting >airplane was seen at a small airport along the E20 Thursday morning on our >drive into Gothenburg to return. It was an Antonov- I forget the number- you >all know the one- it's the big biplane that takes off in about 2' 3 1/2" of >runway Antonov An-2 'Colt'. They're EVERYWHERE. The Russian DC-3. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:07:52 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lets try this again, Questions Message-ID: Walt enquires: << Any comments on the Hit Kit Albatros Offags? I've discovered one comes with K Squadron insignia and am interested in them. >> Walt, I have never seen a model with as much flash as on my Hit Kit. Mike M. may be right - it may be related to where in the run the model was made - and then surely mine was the last one off the assembly line. Literally - without exaggeration - I cannot identify what 1/3 of the parts are, and the rest would be major jobs to make anything at all out of. I think they knew they were in trouble, though, because they loaded the kit with so many interesting decals that I look upon it as strictly a decal purchase and didnt return the kit. << Also, I understand Insignia Magazine had an issue with Estonian markings in it. If someone could let me know which one that is I'd appreciate it. I was in Estonia, courtesy of the U.S. Army in May and became interested in their war with Russia from 1918-20. >> Insignia magazine has published an Estonian markings special - a booklet on the subject. I have not yet had my hands on it - only seen pics, but I am sure it can be ordered from Insignia. Regarding your interest in Estonia, my parents are from Latvia and I have an interest in collecting anything at all that I can about that part of the world during WWI and right up to 1940. Some of my info overlaps into Estonia, of course, so feel free to write me off-list if there is anything I can help you with. Most of my material is about general history, but specific questions regarding the aircraft are probably answered by the Insignia book. Regards, Dave Zulis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:20:41 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ilya Referances (Was Re: My day and decals for the taking) Message-ID: <19990815.202046.-72279.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:56:18 -0400 (EDT) roguerpj writes: > All captions for the pictures have english printing and it is published > by a company call Amanda. When translated, it comes closest to "Armada", and not Apmaa - or whatever Squadron thinks it is. Awesome books. The ones on the I-16 and Il-2 are a dream... Crap, there I go again, thinking this is some kind of VVS list... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:32:48 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Back On Line Message-ID: <37B76A40.2377@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > and EtH's little escapade was covered heavily in the Swedish press, complete > with telephoto pics. That wasn't me. It was some other EtH. And I can prove it. Did the EtH in the Sweedish press pics have a tattoo on his butt that says, "please send our daddy home"? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:35:24 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: me am back Message-ID: <37B76ADC.394D@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Anyway- here I am! Welcome back Mr.Karr. Sorry to hear about your layover. I once spent eight hours in the Peoples Express terminal in Newark. I swear that place is purgatory. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:57:22 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ilya Referances (Was Re: My day and decals for the taking) Message-ID: <37B77002.97B93A59@black-hole.com> Thanks for putting that straight. It would seem that Squadron is mistaking the Cyrillic spelling of the company name. The letters printed in Cyrillic look like they would be "Apmaa" if you have a copy of the book look at the copy right page you will see what I mean. Go figure:) rob johnson Matthew E Bittner wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:56:18 -0400 (EDT) roguerpj > writes: > > > All captions for the pictures have english printing and it is published > > > by a company call Amanda. > > When translated, it comes closest to "Armada", and not Apmaa - or > whatever Squadron thinks it is. > > Awesome books. The ones on the I-16 and Il-2 are a dream... > > Crap, there I go again, thinking this is some kind of VVS list... > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:13:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: NEWS FLASH! Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475A06@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Len, > Due to Eeeenormous Public Demand the Sar-Feast Lundn has been > updated with new (well different models) > and a feature which may interest fans of the HiTech Br14.!!!!! > > (Now will both of you shut up and let me get on with some modelling! Hey, I know I've packed on a few kilos but calling me "both of you" is a bit much ;-) Aside from having to hock a child to afford the spare, and the Early Eduardian plastic parts I think everyone should be interested. Nice kit, colourful badges abound ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:17:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475A07@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Brad, > Sorry! Hands down winner of the ugliest airplane of all time is the > Linke-Hofmann R.1 .... (snip) >.... but must be viewed either through a mirror or a hole cut > out in a sheet of cardboard, one > small portion at a time, otherwise the viewer runs the risk > of being turned to stone. Nah, that can't be right. The R.1 is one of them invisible jobbies, so you can't see it at all, just Franz und Emil und Gustav hanging about in midair Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:20:53 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: A/C hardware question Message-ID: <002901bee796$5a4c19c0$0b32c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Gang, As my Albatros D.V (with those cool Jasta 5 markings) progresses with frightening pace, I have a question that has bugged me for a while, and over several aircraft. Most (if not all) fighters show various hand and footholds on the sides of the fuselage for the pilots' entry and exit from the A/C. How were these accomodated? Some pics seem to show them as holes in the fuselage, but I would think that they were recessed plates or metal stampings that kept the interior of the fuselage from being open to the weather. Did any have a spring-loaded cover plate like one finds on later A/C (like from another war?)? Mainly my questions apply to the Albatros D.V, but other types of foot and hand-hold approaches would be good to have for future reference. Thanks Dave Just Bought: 1/48 Eduard Sopwith Triplane "with Skies". Doesn't say whether the skies are sunny or overcast though. n.p. 'In Like Flint/Our Man Flint' soundtrack. Can't beat James Coburn for movie fun! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:15:25 -0700 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lets try this again, Questions Message-ID: <37B82B0D.6EC8@ricochet.net> WALTER H. APPEL wrote: > > I was in Estonia, courtesy of the U.S. Army in May and became > interested in their war with Russia from 1918-20. You probably already know this, but the Estonia v. Russia episode was part of a much larger and equally fascinating conflict known as the Russian Civil War. I used to have a web page partially devoted to its aerial campaigns, which includes some information on the Estonians and their sorties against the Bolshies in the Baltic. HTH, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:26:25 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: In a message dated 8/15/99 4:18:56 PM EST, KarrArt@aol.com writes: > It may sound odd coming from me, but I agree- the 0/400 is more like a > building than an airplane! I know this is heresy, but I picked up some photos at theRIA museum for a project I'm building for the Rock Island Arsenal display later this year. It's an HP 0/400 in US service postwar. It has an Arsenal designed bomb rack for a whacking great bomb used during the period of the Mitchell bombing trials. A bit off topic, as it is all QMC OD, but not PC-10 nonetheless. The last one I did was overall NIVO. I'm afraid there is no way getting around the PC -10 thing for the Comic though :). Glen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:47:05 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Junkers J I Message-ID: <000f01bee7a2$64b738c0$b904480c@courtney> I am currently working on the 1/48 scale Junkers J I by Lone Star. Although there is a photo copy of the cockpit, it's not very clear or complete. Does any one know of additional cockpit details for the Junkers? I have the Data File on the aircraft but there are no cockpit photos. Courtney Allen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:14:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Shatzer To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A/C hardware question Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, DAVID BURKE wrote: > Hey Gang, > As my Albatros D.V (with those cool Jasta 5 markings) progresses with > frightening pace, I have a question that has bugged me for a while, and over > several aircraft. Most (if not all) fighters show various hand and > footholds on the sides of the fuselage for the pilots' entry and exit from > the A/C. How were these accomodated? Some pics seem to show them as holes > in the fuselage, but I would think that they were recessed plates or metal > stampings that kept the interior of the fuselage from being open to the > weather. Did any have a spring-loaded cover plate like one finds on later > A/C (like from another war?)? Mainly my questions apply to the Albatros > D.V, but other types of foot and hand-hold approaches would be good to have > for future reference. My references indicate the Albatros D.V had a retangular entry step which was covered by a spring loaded 'kick' plate. The step itself would have been a metal apparantus set into the fuselage side. I would assume that the step would have had a solid backing behind it (i.e., even pushing aside the cover plate, one couldn't see into the fuselage interior) but that's just a surmise. These types of inset metal entry steps - both retangualar and (roughly) semi-circular and with and without the cover plate seem to be pretty standard on most German aircraft although the Fokker Dr.I and D.VII (for instance) dispensed with the inset steps altogether and just kinda dangled a step down below the fuselage. Someone else will have to take on the British and French aircraft but, AFAIK, they all used similar systems. Cheers and all, Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:23:54 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A/C hardware question Message-ID: <37B7A06A.742C@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: I have a question that has bugged me for a while, and over > several aircraft. (snip) Well.... On the Jenny parked at Pensacola NAS, it's just a reinforced hole in the fabric which would have the crew stepping on the lower longeron. On the pictures in my D-III Profile, it looks to be a spring loaded metal plate. I would guess that the steps on the D-V would be the same. Hth, E. JGFW(just got finished watching) 'The Incredible Mr.Limpet' and 'October Skies' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:39:01 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hawker and Spins Message-ID: <37B7A3F5.817@bellsouth.net> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > Too bad the FAA today doesn't still require pilots to do the real thing > during training, That doesn't mean the student can't demand spin training from his instructor. I had at least two hours of it before my practical. I also had an instructor who would put me in a spin or half way through a roll for my unusual attitude practice. Lot's of FUN! > Had a certain well-known young pilot had to do that, perhaps there > might not have been the tragedy that happened last month. > Being the heretic that I am, all I can say is,'Who cares!'. And since you brought it up, did you hear what the made for tv mini-series about John John is gonna be called? 'Three Funerals and a Wedding'. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:43:02 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Easy Cabane Struts was RE: was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc Message-ID: <37B7A4E6.11AF@bellsouth.net> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > I'm presently working on the TOKO Hansa Brandenberg D.I and the > cabanes are going to be a monster. In fact, they don't even provide or > show the rear cabanes. And that Star strut system is going to be very > interesting. The wings have holes for locating pins but there are no pins > on the struts. mmmm... I'm begining to see a pattern here. The TOKO Snipe had problems with the LG struts. The Strutter has problems with the cabanes. Now you're reporting trouble with the struts on the HB D-I. Any other problems with the struts on any other TOKO kits that anyone knows about? E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:53:36 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thief, was Re: Gotha! Message-ID: <37B7A760.7218@bellsouth.net> ERIC HIGHT wrote: > ernie, > no i did not. hell i did not have time to look at the contest models. my > only real regret, besides the minor problem we had with you know who. > eric Why so discreet? I say we rat him out. Hey everybody, the guy at Land Sea and Air hobbies is a thief. Don't do business with him. At least I think it's Land Sea and Air. It could be Air Land and Sea. Faq it. It something to do with three elements hobbies. But the guy's a thief all the same. There, how's that? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:05:06 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <19990816060506.16555.qmail@hotmail.com> I am a newcomer to the list and not familiar with the O/400./PC10/Nivo debate hinted at in a couple of these responses, but the wing panels held by RAF Museum Hendon are PC10 FWIW Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net >From: GRBroman@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:29:08 -0400 (EDT) > >In a message dated 8/15/99 4:18:56 PM EST, KarrArt@aol.com writes: > > It may sound odd coming from me, but I agree- the 0/400 is more like a > > building than an airplane! > > >I know this is heresy, but I picked up some photos at theRIA museum for a >project I'm building for the Rock Island Arsenal display later this year. >It's an HP 0/400 in US service postwar. It has an Arsenal designed bomb >rack >for a whacking great bomb used during the period of the Mitchell bombing >trials. A bit off topic, as it is all QMC OD, but not PC-10 nonetheless. >The last one I did was overall NIVO. I'm afraid there is no way getting >around the PC -10 thing for the Comic though :). Glen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:02:31 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: New original SPAD 13 pics Message-ID: <000901bee7b3$ec34d440$d85b08c3@default> Hi Marshall, A similar colour appears on several aircraft in the Air & Space museum in Paris. Whether this is a convention among restorers to indicate non-original parts I don't know, but it is strange. Buy the paint by all means, but I think most of the parts for it will be hidden, unless you do a strip down Spad. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Marshall J. Curtis To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 5:37 PM Subject: Re: New original SPAD 13 pics > I notice that all of the metal parts a courious tourquoise color. Does any > body know if this was an original feature of the aircraft or part of the > restoration process. Also any speculation or fact on its purpose of this > finish. Anti-corosion seems a little out of the relm for 1917. > > Lots of questions few answers... > > --Marshall > > I am about to being work on a Spad XIII and heck now I have an excuse to buy > a tin a of that really pretty turquoise blue paint :o. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:08:19 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH! Message-ID: <000a01bee7b3$edaf3f40$d85b08c3@default> Thanks sp! As you may have gathered I like building slightly (?) off beat, not to say downright oddball, aircraft. Makes a change from all of the Camels and Dr whatsits. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH! > Len: > > Nice work! I love the subjects. > > Regards > sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:51:35 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list Message-ID: <000b01bee7b3$eee50020$d85b08c3@default> Hi Dave, Aeroclub do a RAF 4a engine in whitemetal, their No. E028. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Berry > > > I ended up reworking the nose extensively 'cause that was a real mess. Now I > have a big hole where the engine should be. The interior doesn't concern me > much, it's amazing what you can do with a little Evergreen styrene strip. > > My hang-up right now is what am I going to do about the engine? I started > cobbling one with the kit cylinders, but it's pretty clunky.. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:21:29 -0700 From: "Marshall J. Curtis" To: Subject: Re: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted Message-ID: <002d01bee7b7$f6d41c40$0164a8c0@curtisassoc.com> Profiles I have seen used a redish brown and I chose to use the Brick Red (Hu70) this was called for on the Revell Spad XIII. However... In support of the "newer" color scheme the TOKO instructions call for Hu55 with is Fire Bronze. But if you assume this was a typo and subsequet translation error. Humbrol Olive Drab (FS34087) happens to be Hu155. Coincidence ??? This probably adds to the confusion more that it helps. --Marshall ----- Original Message ----- From: techcess To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 4:29 AM Subject: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted >Toko give the colour scheme for the upper surfaces of Chouteau Johnson's >Bebe as including No 30 Green and Metallic Bronze. > >Metallic Bronze? Surely not correct!? Can anyone suggest the appropriate >humbrol colours please. > > >Ian > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:37:31 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list Message-ID: <37B7BFBB.651EF30D@mars.ark.com> The aeroclub RAF looked like a casting from the Airfix RE8 kit to me... -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:57:44 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list Message-ID: <19990816075745.81364.qmail@hotmail.com> Mike, what ARE you suggesting?? >From: Mike Fletcher >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:34:52 -0400 (EDT) > >The aeroclub RAF looked like a casting from the Airfix RE8 kit to me... >-- >Mike Fletcher ___ ., >mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; >mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" >icq=19554083 @ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 99 17:56:46 +1000 From: "Kitsch design <\"Kitsch design\"" To: "WW1 Mailing List" Subject: Dawn Of Aces - flight sim/game Message-ID: <199908160857.SAA04323@mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au> Hi folks, A local discount variety store is selling the computer game/sim "Dawn Of Aces" for AUD$10.00 (ten dollars) - fully boxed CD etc. Is it any good? I'm primarily after something I can play/fly off-line - my 3rd world web connection would never sustain online interactive flight sim play. Any comments on this software title, or is Red Baron superior? Regards Andrew Ronayne Blue Mountains NSW Australia Andrew Ronayne Kitsch design NSW Australia Download Neoplanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 04:55:38 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Easy Cabane Struts was RE: was Windsock 15-4 / Toko etc Message-ID: <19990816.045818.-5045.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Ernest Thomas writes: > mmmm... I'm begining to see a pattern here. The TOKO Snipe had > problems > with the LG struts. The Strutter has problems with the cabanes. Now > you're reporting trouble with the struts on the HB D-I. Any other > problems with the struts on any other TOKO kits that anyone knows > about? You mean besides the interplane struts on the Nie.11/16 not looking correct? ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 04:54:13 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Junkers J I Message-ID: <19990816.045818.-5045.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:46:53 -0400 (EDT) "Courtney Allen" writes: > I am currently working on the 1/48 scale Junkers J I by Lone Star. > Although > there is a photo copy of the cockpit, it's not very clear or > complete. Does > any one know of additional cockpit details for the Junkers? I have > the Data > File on the aircraft but there are no cockpit photos. According to my database, WW1 Aero #118 and 134 have cockpit info. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1778 **********************