WWI Digest 1777 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: "Big Ack" - Beautiful!!!! by Matthew E Bittner 2) New original SPAD 13 pics by Matthew E Bittner 3) Re: Jasta 5 "buzz?" Letters by bucky@ptdprolog.net 4) Back On Line by "John C Glaser" 5) RE: Jasta 5 "buzz?" Letters by Shane Weier 6) Re: Boeing. WAS Re: Growth of the list WAS: New to the list by Albatrosdv@aol.com 7) My day and decals for the taking by roguerpj 8) Flying Machines Book Sale by "Courtney Allen" 9) Re: My day and decals for the taking by Matthew E Bittner 10) Re: My day and decals for the taking by roguerpj 11) Re: Growth of the list WAS: New to the list by "Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton" 12) Re: Nieuport 17 and Spad A.2 by "Sandy Adam" 13) Re: "Big Ack" - Beautiful!!!! by "Sandy Adam" 14) Re: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! by "Sandy Adam" 15) Re: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! by Suvoroff@aol.com 16) And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted by "techcess" 17) Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by smperry@mindspring.com 18) Re: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted by Matthew E Bittner 19) Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! by "PETER LEONARD" 20) Re: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! by Tom Solinski 21) Re: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! by "PETER LEONARD" 22) Two Stage Resin Molds by "PETER LEONARD" 23) Re: New original SPAD 13 pics by "Marshall J. Curtis" 24) Wood Graining Techniques by "Marshall J. Curtis" 25) Re: Wood Graining Techniques by Dennis Ugulano 26) Re: Wood Graining Techniques by "Steve" 27) Re: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted by Mike Fletcher 28) Decals I had by roguerpj 29) Re: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! by GRBroman@aol.com 30) NEWS FLASH! by "Len Smith" 31) Re: NEWS FLASH! by smperry@mindspring.com 32) Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list by Dave Berry 33) Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... by KarrArt@aol.com 34) Re: Back On Line by KarrArt@aol.com 35) Re: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! by "Brad Gossen" 36) Re: My day and decals for the taking by Dave Berry ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:50:05 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Big Ack" - Beautiful!!!! Message-ID: <19990814.215220.-84407.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:12:51 -0400 (EDT) ERIC HIGHT writes: > mos ai Thank you for typing in the right designation. ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:59:28 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New original SPAD 13 pics Message-ID: <19990814.215929.-142855.0.mbittner@juno.com> While doing some surfin', I come across these pics: http://www.activedayton.com/community/groups/IPMS_Dayton/restour.html You'll have to scroll down to get to the on-topic stuff. According to the text of the pics, the USAFM is restoring Palen's SPAD 13. Some good detail pics. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 23:08:11 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jasta 5 "buzz?" Letters Message-ID: <37B62F1B.DE29554F@ptdprolog.net> If you buy the Jasta 5 decals from Americal, you get a nice little book that shows all of the markings! Mike Muth Mike wrote: > Have not got any good refences on the type and color of the personal pilot's > initials on the lower wings of > some of the Jasta 5 aircraft. I'm presently building Von Hippel's Dragon > marked DV for a WWI Gamer > friend and would like to add this to the kit (naturally, the old Microscale > Decals sheet does not mention/include them) I've seen some references, > but cant remember if they are a Black "H" or a White "H".... > > Mike Dicianna > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:22:58 -0500 From: "John C Glaser" To: "WW1 Mail List" Subject: Back On Line Message-ID: Those of us on AT&T Worldnet have had a very bad day. Several of the POP3 servers were down today resulting in no e-mail delivery for a loooooonnnnng time. Don't know if anybody else on the list uses AT&T but I'm just happy not to be unsubbed (again.) RK - Welcome back! You missed EtH Jell-O wrestling - NOT a pretty sight. Oh BTW, Tom Clever sold the O-400 while you were gone. - JCG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:48:22 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Jasta 5 "buzz?" Letters Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475A03@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Mike, > If you buy the Jasta 5 decals from Americal, you get a nice > little book that shows all of the markings! Two, a red one and a green one (surprised???), one updating and extending the other. Highly recommended Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:23:47 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Boeing. WAS Re: Growth of the list WAS: New to the list Message-ID: <9dfa7566.24e79ad3@aol.com> In a message dated 99-08-14 20:28:58 EDT, you write: << There you have it, I guess, Hawker, Curtiss and Boeing are all now on topic :-) >> Yeah, but these super-fantastic beautiful F4B-4s and P-12Es aren't!! :-) though you could make a point of them being 1928 "ultimate developments of 1918" that were really out of their milieu in 1936, when they were still first-line equipment. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 23:47:13 -0500 From: roguerpj To: "wwi@pease1.srund.edu" Subject: My day and decals for the taking Message-ID: <37B64651.262D2C5B@black-hole.com> Hello, all Today was a great day for me. I went to my first Modeling club meting that did not take place at home in front of my computer. I joined the Twin Cities Aero Historians. There a local group of modelers that has included some members of this group. It was fun for me as I have never went to something like this. Inspired me to get my but in gear and serious start work in my Fokker E.V. (That have a club contest in October). Mostly made up of builders from that other war (about 4 ot the 30 people there). I was able to pick a kit which will allow me to pass goodies along to any on that wants them. I bought a box that contained a opened MPM 1/72 Hansa Brandenburg W.29 and some other stuff. As it was $15 US bought it and didn't think much of it. When I got home I was surprised to find The MPM kit was all there as well as the all the parts and decals for the Tokyo 1/72 kit. Also there were several sets of 1/72 decal sets from Almark and Blue Rider. I have no use for some of the decal sets so I thought I would post the list here and give them to the first person who wants them. (e-mail me off list. I send them to you) Blue Rider 1/72 Sheet# Description BR302 SE5a South African Air Force 1921 BR225 Camel RAF Training Machines From 1918 Major E.I. Foot BR243 Pup Dazzling Trainer from 1918 Serial no. C242, No. 7 Squadron, Netheravon Almark 1/72 A27 British roundels 1914-1918 A34 German 5 Color Lozenge (underside) have 2 sheets Rob Johnson -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:45:01 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Flying Machines Book Sale Message-ID: <006a01bee6d8$f050bca0$c843480c@courtney> I'm not sure if anyone has already posted this I have been off the list for a week or so. The Flying Machines Press Web page has ALL their books on sale. The prices are very good, especially when you consider that they include all shipping and handling charges. Courtney Allen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:03:17 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My day and decals for the taking Message-ID: <19990815.000327.-231535.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:34:37 -0400 (EDT) roguerpj writes: > Today was a great day for me. I went to my first Modeling club > meting > that did not take place at home in front of my computer. I joined > the > Twin Cities Aero Historians. Ah yes. Did you meat Mr. Hustad? Whattaman... :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:48:19 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My day and decals for the taking Message-ID: <37B654A3.EE1B33A8@black-hole.com> It is entirely possible. I am vary bad with names. I know he was there. I did meet John Roll. It was the only name I had herd before. Thanks for he phone numbers Brent. Jack was vary helpful and fun to talk with. I was wonderful to see the looks on their faces when I told them I was doing wwI and that my second plane was going to be the Ilya. It is a little like seeing deer caught in headlights :) I had a good time. rob johnson Matthew E Bittner wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:34:37 -0400 (EDT) roguerpj > writes: > > > Today was a great day for me. I went to my first Modeling club > > meting > > that did not take place at home in front of my computer. I joined > > the > > Twin Cities Aero Historians. > > > > Ah yes. Did you meat Mr. Hustad? Whattaman... :-) > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:59:38 +0100 From: "Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton" To: Subject: Re: Growth of the list WAS: New to the list Message-ID: <009701bee6f0$1d643ac0$60fca8c2@pc0973> The first Boeing seaplane ended up in NZ on airmail duties IIRC. It was built (or they were built - there might have been two of them) for the US navy, but ended up at the Walsh Bros' New Zealand flying school at Mission bay, Auckland, along with a really neat selection of seaplanes and flying boats. So OT, but only in an extremly round about way. Aidrian -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fletcher To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 14 August 1999 20:33 Subject: Re: Growth of the list WAS: New to the list >didn't Boeing make its start during ww1? >-- >Mike Fletcher ___ ., >mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; >mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" >icq=19554083 @ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:35:34 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport 17 and Spad A.2 Message-ID: <007c01bee702$95354640$25e8b094@sandyada> ><< < Now for another question: I was looking through my books last night and > came across a photo of a SPAD A.2. Does anyone know of a kit of this >aircraft If you fancy trying it, AJP Macquetes do a fabulous A2 in brass and paper in 1/48 - an absolute jewel. Pricey though. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:39:47 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: "Big Ack" - Beautiful!!!! Message-ID: <007d01bee702$960f79a0$25e8b094@sandyada> >sandy and peter, >looks like we will be doing a big ack next year. this should follow the >mos ai which is due this fall. >eric I shall definitely take one, Eric, (its so beautiful, Tom) - thank you - Please let us know when its coming out. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:50:38 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! Message-ID: <008001bee703$a468c3c0$25e8b094@sandyada> >Not wishing to start an "Uggliest aeroplane of WW1" competition ..... Why not? Leaving out the daft experimentals like the Push-Proj and the Fokker Sesquiplane, we could consider fully operational types. My vote for the Hannover Cl series - snout designed for snuffling truffles and what an embarrassing tail! Close second, the sit-up-and-beg Halberstadt Cl series - daft rudders - look like Tintin's hairstyle! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:13:56 EDT From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! Message-ID: <18dd4686.24e7faf4@aol.com> "Why not? Leaving out the daft experimentals like the Push-Proj and the Fokker Sesquiplane, we could consider fully operational types." Well, that leaves out those Nieuport heavy bombers; however, in the way of operational types, my vote is the FE-2b. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:24:50 +0100 From: "techcess" To: Subject: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted Message-ID: <00a001bee710$e08bbda0$f259cfc2@f3u3u8> Toko give the colour scheme for the upper surfaces of Chouteau Johnson's Bebe as including No 30 Green and Metallic Bronze. Metallic Bronze? Surely not correct!? Can anyone suggest the appropriate humbrol colours please. Ian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 08:01:49 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <006501bee715$f56acfe0$412b45cf@default> Sandy's quite right about the truffle hunting snout of the Hanover. There is a photo of the one Rickenbacker helped bring down. It's head down, butt up and all hung up in a fence. Definately truffle hunting. And definately an ugly aircraft. My choice, and I don't want to hear a lot bollocks about the subtlties of PC10 ;-) , is the HP 0/400 which was bloody paralyzing to the sensibilities no matter what color it was painted. sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:53:32 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted Message-ID: <19990815.075336.-84501.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:29:33 -0400 (EDT) "techcess" writes: > Toko give the colour scheme for the upper surfaces of Chouteau > Johnson's > Bebe as including No 30 Green and Metallic Bronze. > > Metallic Bronze? Surely not correct!? Can anyone suggest the > appropriate > humbrol colours please. Who knows about humbrol colors, but the bronze is definitely wrong. Now, it depends on which "camp" you're from; the "older" green and brown camp, or the "newer" green and olive camp. I painted my oh-why-is-it-taking-so-long Johnson machine green and olive because it looks cool. Unfortunately those colors were painted so long ago I forget which Polly S I used. Gads... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 06:26:04 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <19990815132606.27612.qmail@hotmail.com> For the last three or four years I have been reading regular reports of the imminent release of a Glencoe Dh4, usually in some show report or other. Is this right or is it just a load of cobblers? Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 08:55:49 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <37B6C6E5.FE91416B@ionet.net> > For the last three or four years I have been reading regular reports of the > imminent release of a Glencoe Dh4, usually in some show report or other. Is > this right or is it just a load of cobblers? Peter try them at http://www.glencoemodels.com/. The one letter I sent them about two years ago offering some of my auroras as reverse mold masters got a bunch of press releases and no answer to my letter. They seemed hot on space stuff at the time Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:17:29 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <19990815141738.61687.qmail@hotmail.com> Tom, already tried that, but there is no e-mail address otherwise I'd start my own SPAM campaign. I assume that an Aurora Dh 4 is exactly what it will be, IF it ever shows, but when. First reports I remember came in a Chigago toy show report, it must be four years ago because I was still producing kits and a resin Dh-9 conversion seemed like a good idea at the time. Still does Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net >From: Tom Solinski >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! >Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:59:26 -0400 (EDT) > > > For the last three or four years I have been reading regular reports of >the > > imminent release of a Glencoe Dh4, usually in some show report or other. >Is > > this right or is it just a load of cobblers? > >Peter try them at http://www.glencoemodels.com/. The one letter I sent >them >about two years ago offering some of my auroras as reverse mold masters got >a >bunch of press releases and no answer to my letter. They seemed hot on >space >stuff at the time >Tom S > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:29:19 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Two Stage Resin Molds Message-ID: <19990815142920.95647.qmail@hotmail.com> I floated this idea a couple of days ago and it was received favourably, but I have since discussed it with a friend who tells me it's a technique already in use for large resin castings. I had envisaged using two molds, but apparently this is not necessary. The process involves pouring a small amount of resin into the mold which must then be kept moving until the resin gels. Once the Resin has hardened foam is injected into the hollow centre. Now where did I put those SS 16 airship drawings? Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:39:54 -0700 From: "Marshall J. Curtis" To: Subject: Re: New original SPAD 13 pics Message-ID: <006b01bee73c$ceea7b00$0164a8c0@curtisassoc.com> I notice that all of the metal parts a courious tourquoise color. Does any body know if this was an original feature of the aircraft or part of the restoration process. Also any speculation or fact on its purpose of this finish. Anti-corosion seems a little out of the relm for 1917. Lots of questions few answers... --Marshall I am about to being work on a Spad XIII and heck now I have an excuse to buy a tin a of that really pretty turquoise blue paint :o. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 8:01 PM Subject: New original SPAD 13 pics >While doing some surfin', I come across these pics: > >http://www.activedayton.com/community/groups/IPMS_Dayton/restour.html > >You'll have to scroll down to get to the on-topic stuff. According to >the text of the pics, the USAFM is restoring Palen's SPAD 13. Some good >detail pics. > > >Matt Bittner >http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook >http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:55:57 -0700 From: "Marshall J. Curtis" To: "WWI Model List" Subject: Wood Graining Techniques Message-ID: <009e01bee73f$0cd71250$0164a8c0@curtisassoc.com> As I have browed the may web page examples by members of this group I have seen a number of excellent examples of woodgaining. This is a skill that had eluded me on my many attemps and generally ends with sandpaper and a new coat of "wood" paint If anyone is willing to share thier preffered or perfected techniquie I know I would be appreciative and I sure others on the list would be also. Thanks, --Marshall So many questions, so few answers.. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:59:41 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Wood Graining Techniques Message-ID: <199908151359_MC2-811B-E24B@compuserve.com> Marshall, I've experimented with a new method as we speak. I will be posting the photos soon on my web site and will then explain what I did. The results are very good. Looks exactly like wood. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/DJU.HTM Page Revised 8/16/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:08:35 +0100 From: "Steve" To: Subject: Re: Wood Graining Techniques Message-ID: <000701bee749$355f00c0$9ce107c3@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Marshall J. Curtis To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 5:53 PM Subject: Wood Graining Techniques Hi, First time I've had anything to offer! - I've been using 'Dulux Woodgrain' tester pots - they're the same size as Humbrol pots, bought from DIY stores for about a pound in the UK. There's an acrylic base coat - incidentally the 'Pine' basecoat makes a very good, rich linen colour for RFC undersurfaces- followed by what looks like a coloured or tinted (polyurethane?) varnish. I use a nearly bristle-less 000 brush to apply the varnish over the basecoat. This drags a convincing woodgrain effect in 1:72. If you can't get the tester pots, I'd suggest using a cream acrylic paint as an undercoat, letting it dry and then using a clear varnish mixed with coloured enamel. - That's what I did 'pre-Dulux.' Hope that helps - Steve Schofield An Atheist - A man with no invisible means of support. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:13:20 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: And yet more Nieuport Help Wanted Message-ID: <37B70340.F74A24D6@mars.ark.com> What supports the green and olive colours? -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:37:59 -0500 From: roguerpj To: "wwi@pease1.srund.edu" Subject: Decals I had Message-ID: <37B70907.BBFCF634@black-hole.com> The Decal sheets I had are all now spoken for. I do wish there was enough for everyone rob johnson -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:50:50 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dh-4............PLEEEEEZ!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <931891ae.24e8741a@aol.com> Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, my hope for a Glencoe DH--4 is fast fading. The kits does exist. I've seen it and actually held it in my hands while talking with Nick Argento, owner of Glencoe. That was about two years ago. I hope to see Nick at the Chicago show this October, I didn't see him at the last show, although he did have a booth. BTW, the mold is the old Aurora mold cleaned up. Glen n a message dated 8/15/99 9:19:17 AM EST, peter_leonard@hotmail.com writes: > Tom, already tried that, but there is no e-mail address otherwise I'd start > my own SPAM campaign. I assume that an Aurora Dh 4 is exactly what it will > be, IF it ever shows, but when. First reports I remember came in a Chigago > toy show report, it must be four years ago because I was still producing > kits and a resin Dh-9 conversion seemed like a good idea at the time. Still > does ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:55:53 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: NEWS FLASH! Message-ID: <000901bee758$6936f420$c95b08c3@default> Greetings all, Due to Eeeenormous Public Demand the Sar-Feast Lundn has been updated with new (well different models) and a feature which may interest fans of the HiTech Br14.!!!!! (Now will both of you shut up and let me get on with some modelling! Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:50:02 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH! Message-ID: <000c01bee75f$bfc942a0$010a56d1@default> >Greetings all, > >Due to Eeeenormous Public Demand the Sar-Feast Lundn has been updated with >new (well different models) Len: Nice work! I love the subjects. Regards sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:16:53 -0400 From: Dave Berry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airfix RE8 was Re: New to the list Message-ID: <37B5EAD5.81C74576@total.net> Tom, I'm in about the same place. I reworked the kit wings to match the Windsock Datafile drawings. Cut the fuselage at each cockpit opening to get the length right. I ended up reworking the nose extensively 'cause that was a real mess. Now I have a big hole where the engine should be. The interior doesn't concern me much, it's amazing what you can do with a little Evergreen styrene strip. My hang-up right now is what am I going to do about the engine? I started cobbling one with the kit cylinders, but it's pretty clunky.. I'll try to put a few in progress shots on my website.. Dave Berry Tom Werner Hansen wrote: > Dave > > That's about my poison right now too. What are you going to do about it? > So far I have made a new set of resin wings, cut the fuselage apart to > correct it, but I'm stuck at the stage where I build the interior. I lost > one half of the tailplane so I'll have to make those out of plasticard as > well. > > Tom W > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:16:58 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ugliest Plane was: Big Ack....... Message-ID: <6b48f390.24e8884a@aol.com> In a message dated 8/15/99 5:03:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << My choice, and I don't want to hear a lot bollocks about the subtlties of PC10 ;-) , is the HP 0/400 which was bloody paralyzing to the sensibilities no matter what color it was painted. sp >> It may sound odd coming from me, but I agree- the 0/400 is more like a building than an airplane! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:16:59 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Back On Line Message-ID: <4aef9510.24e8884b@aol.com> In a message dated 8/14/99 8:24:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net writes: << RK - Welcome back! You missed EtH Jell-O wrestling - NOT a pretty sight. Oh BTW, Tom Clever sold the O-400 while you were gone. - JCG >> I wondered where the 0/400 was- I guess it's time to change the locks again, and EtH's little escapade was covered heavily in the Swedish press, complete with telephoto pics. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:04:27 -0400 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! Message-ID: <199908152212.SAA18339@mail6.globalserve.net> Sorry! Hands down winner of the ugliest airplane of all time is the Linke-Hofmann R.1 followed very closely by the SSW R.1. Both machines can be found in the German Giants by Haddow and Grosz, but must be viewed either through a mirror or a hole cut out in a sheet of cardboard, one small portion at a time, otherwise the viewer runs the risk of being turned to stone. Brad ---------- > From: PETER LEONARD > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: "Big Ack" - big aaaaaaack!!! > Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 1:01 PM > > Not wishing to start an "Uggliest aeroplane of WW1" competition but; > any of the late war Lorrain powered MoS two seaters would win hands down > > Peter Leonard > IPMS UK > Lancashire & Cheshire Branch > http://www.storks.cwc.net > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > PeterL@cwcom.net > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:50:17 -0400 From: Dave Berry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My day and decals for the taking Message-ID: <37B74429.78E85597@total.net> You're Building the Ilya? I started to cut plastic on the Maquette kit a few years ago but stalled for lack of reference. IIRC FSM featured a beautiful scratchbuilt one with drawings some years back, but it was a different variant.. Is there any decent reference material on it now? Dave Berry roguerpj wrote: > It is entirely possible. I am vary bad with names. I know he was there. > I did meet John Roll. It was the only name I had herd before. > > Thanks for he phone numbers Brent. Jack was vary helpful and fun to talk > with. I was wonderful to see the looks on their faces when I told them I > was doing wwI and that my second plane was going to be the Ilya. It is a > little like seeing deer caught in headlights :) I had a good time. > > rob johnson ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1777 **********************