WWI Digest 1756 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Update on the "Oyster" story by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: Update on the "Oyster" story by Albatrosdv@aol.com 3) Re: Update on the "Oyster" story by Ernest Thomas 4) Re: Update on the "Oyster" story by "Bob Pearson" 5) FW: "French 75" The Cocktail by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: Update on the "Oyster" story by Ernest Thomas 7) Re: FW: "French 75" The Cocktail by Ernest Thomas 8) Re: Update on the "Oyster" story by "PETER LEONARD" 9) Re: "French 75" The Cocktail by "Bob Pearson" 10) Georges Madon by "PETER LEONARD" 11) Re: Georges Madon by "Bob Pearson" 12) Re: Georges Madon by "PETER LEONARD" 13) Re: Georges Madon by "Bob Pearson" 14) Staaken anyone? by Shane Weier 15) Re: New Images & Return to list by THENRYS@aol.com 16) Re: Back on line by smperry@mindspring.com 17) Re: Back on line by smperry@mindspring.com 18) RE: New Images & Return to list by Shane Weier 19) RE: New Images & Return to list by "PETER LEONARD" 20) Re: New Images & Return to list by THENRYS@aol.com 21) RE: New Images & Return to list by Shane Weier 22) Re: New Images & Return to list by Suvoroff@aol.com 23) The prodigious strikes again by Dennis Ugulano 24) Re: Update on the "Oyster" story by "K. Hagerup" 25) Re: Ribs by Matthew E Bittner 26) Re: The prodigious strikes again by Tom Solinski 27) Fast Eddie by bucky@ptdprolog.net 28) Sopwith Tripe S/Ns maybe again by Tom Solinski 29) Re: The prodigious strikes again by Albatrosdv@aol.com 30) Re: Making websites by Albatrosdv@aol.com 31) Re: Making websites by "PETER LEONARD" 32) Re: The prodigious strikes again by "richard eaton" 33) Re: Back on line by roguerpj ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 01:49:12 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story Message-ID: <37ABD6E8.6701@bellsouth.net> Len Smith wrote: > > Would anyone care to offer a translation into English of the "Oyster" story? Sure Len, Best I can decipher through all of the navy jargon is that an F-18 was getting launced off the a/c carrier USS Constelation. On take-off the pilot lost all power to one engine, and partial power to the other. Instead of ejecting, he dumped his fuel and managed, after a few tries, to put the bird back on the deck in one piece. While 'Oyster' may be a great pilot, he's not much of a writer. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 02:57:16 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story Message-ID: In a message dated 99-08-07 02:51:14 EDT, you write: << While 'Oyster' may be a great pilot, he's not much of a writer. >> As a "professional" myself, I thought it was rivetting, which is why I posted it. I'm certain you'd all find an account by a WW1 pilot where he didn't speak in the technical language of his time to be pretty boring. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 02:09:31 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story Message-ID: <37ABDBAB.699E@bellsouth.net> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > As a "professional" myself, I thought it was rivetting, which is why I posted > it. Don't make me start quoting Twain at you. ;) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 00:17:25 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story Message-ID: <199908070725.AAA22246@mail.rapidnet.net> Boys, boys. . don't make me come down there .... Bob (BTW it was a very interesting tale. . overwritten, but very interesting) ---------- >From: Ernest Thomas >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story >Date: Sat, Aug 7, 1999, 12:10 AM > >> As a "professional" myself, I thought it was rivetting, which is why I posted >> it. > > Don't make me start quoting Twain at you. ;) > E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 00:24:49 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: FW: "French 75" The Cocktail Message-ID: <199908070733.AAA22377@mail.rapidnet.net> Whoops. . thought this went to this list, not that other one. Lets try it again ---------- From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: "French 75" The Cocktail Date: Sat, Aug 7, 1999, 12:22 AM At the 1996 OTF seminar we imbibed in a concoction called a "sidecar" .. truly a gawd-awful drink if there ever was one - Luckily some loggers from Washington state had a bottle of rye that they gladly handed over as entrance to the party (and what a party it was .. .. among others there was 'Saint' Harry Woodman, Larry Saul from UTD, List member Brad Gossen and 20 or so others) - I am sure Ross found it poured into all the plants in his room the next day . . .. Bob ---------- >From: Leo McCormack >To: A >Subject: "French 75" The Cocktail >Date: Sat, Aug 7, 1999, 12:09 AM > > > Kevin, > > According to the "Old Mr Boston Official Bar-Tenders > Guide"(Boston,1935) a "French 75" cocktail is as follows: > > 2/3 Jigger Dry Gin > 1/3 Jigger lemon Juice > 1 teaspoonful powdered sugar > (A jigger is given as 1-1/2 to 2 ounces) > > "Pour ingredients into a Tom Collins(12 ounce)glass containing cracked > ice and fill up with champagne" > > > I have a 1960's era version of the same book(Don't ask me why I have > two copies of this bar book...)where they call for "2 teaspoons of > powdered sugar", "the juice of one lemon", specify the gin as 2 oz., > and only call for one ice cube, the rest remaining the same. I can't > remember ever having one of these. > > I seem to remember hearing that this was Humphrey Bogarts drink of > choice(sorry, no sources for that tidbit). > > I apologise to the rest of the world for no metric version. Math was > never my strong suit. > > Dipsomaniacally, > > Leo > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 02:25:14 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story Message-ID: <37ABDF5A.739F@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > (BTW it was a very interesting tale. . overwritten, but very interesting) Ya see! tthhhpppp!!! E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 02:33:11 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: "French 75" The Cocktail Message-ID: <37ABE137.1503@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > At the 1996 OTF seminar we imbibed in a concoction called a "sidecar" .. > truly a gawd-awful drink if there ever was one - Luckily some loggers from > Washington state had a bottle of rye that they gladly handed over as > entrance to the party Well, I guess this is a good time to bring up a question I've been wondering about. Will I have to subscribe to OTF to get in at Pensacola next year, or can I just bring a bottle? If y'all let me in, I'll show you how to make a Fuzzy Slipper from Hell. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 00:49:10 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story Message-ID: <19990807074911.60478.qmail@hotmail.com> See that Jerry Springer.......he's rubbish he is! ;¬) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 00:58:27 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "French 75" The Cocktail Message-ID: <199908070806.BAA22929@mail.rapidnet.net> I won't swear to it, but I'm sure you can register at the door. It has been the policy in the past. When we were in DC a young boy from S. America was in the hotel with his family and pestered his mom to get him in ... Bob ---------- >From: Ernest Thomas >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: FW: "French 75" The Cocktail >Date: Sat, Aug 7, 1999, 12:34 AM > > Bob Pearson wrote: > >> At the 1996 OTF seminar we imbibed in a concoction called a "sidecar" .. >> truly a gawd-awful drink if there ever was one - Luckily some loggers from >> Washington state had a bottle of rye that they gladly handed over as >> entrance to the party > > Well, I guess this is a good time to bring up a question I've been > wondering about. Will I have to subscribe to OTF to get in at Pensacola > next year, or can I just bring a bottle? > If y'all let me in, I'll show you how to make a Fuzzy Slipper from Hell. > E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 01:10:12 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Georges Madon Message-ID: <19990807081013.33692.qmail@hotmail.com> I have a row of SPADs on the go at the moment, one of which is a 12 which I intend to finish as the red machine most often associated with Georges Madon. Does anyone know the serial? Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 01:14:17 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Georges Madon Message-ID: <199908070822.BAA23145@mail.rapidnet.net> I profiled it a few years ago and AFAIK the serial is unknown. Bob ---------- >From: "PETER LEONARD" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Georges Madon >Date: Sat, Aug 7, 1999, 1:11 AM > > I have a row of SPADs on the go at the moment, one of which is a 12 which I > intend to finish as the red machine most often associated with Georges > Madon. Does anyone know the serial? > > Peter Leonard > IPMS UK > Lancashire & Cheshire Branch > http://www.storks.cwc.net > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > PeterL@cwcom.net > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 01:25:37 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Georges Madon Message-ID: <19990807082538.48696.qmail@hotmail.com> Thanks Bob. All my refs say that, but I only have the usual datafiles, profiles etc, so I thought I'd chance my arm. Did you form an opinion on a likely serial block? I've settled on rounded wings assuming it to be early, please don't tell me if I'm wrong :¬( Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 01:37:46 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Georges Madon Message-ID: <199908070846.BAA23399@mail.rapidnet.net> Peter, Sorry, it's been 7 years since I did it. So any thoughts I may have had are long gone. however relatively few XIIs were made so perhaps someone else who has done research on French serials may be of help. Bob ---------- >From: "PETER LEONARD" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Georges Madon >Date: Sat, Aug 7, 1999, 1:26 AM > > Thanks Bob. All my refs say that, but I only have the usual datafiles, > profiles etc, so I thought I'd chance my arm. Did you form an opinion on a > likely serial block? I've settled on rounded wings assuming it to be early, > please don't tell me if I'm wrong :¬( > > > Peter Leonard > IPMS UK > Lancashire & Cheshire Branch > http://www.storks.cwc.net > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > PeterL@cwcom.net > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:24:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Staaken anyone? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475988@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Hello all, >From rec.models.scale ============================ From: jdenberger@aol.com (JDenberger) Subject: ZEPELLIN STAAKEN Does anyone have any interest in a Contrail 1/72 ZEPELLIN STAAKEN vacuform kit? If so, How much? ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 07:31:49 EDT From: THENRYS@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Images & Return to list Message-ID: Greetings all. I've returned to the list after some absence and have enjoyed reading the posts thus far. During my time off list, I actually completed a WWI kit (I also build off topic but please don't hold it against me). I finished the Sierra Hansa Brandenburg W.18, complete with water base and Americal decals (I still don't know why someone does such an extensive sheet of decals for A-H flying boats, but I'm glad they did and they are beautiful - and a great value for the amount of markings and research that you get). I don't have a website and I do know better than to post direct to the list. If anyone would like some pics, or if anyone can suggest a location online, I'd be glad to post them. (I don't know if they are worthy of posting to the WWI pages). Todd Henry Next kit : TOKO Pfalz XII (Gotta love the TOKO kits) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 07:41:49 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Back on line Message-ID: <006c01bee0c9$d6a776a0$c52c45cf@default> >Steve, > >Sorry to hear about the problems. >Great to have you back! > >What you been working on? > >Regards, > >Richard HI Richard: Thanks :-) I've been working on my I'lya and got the interior details finished and the fuselge closed. Iwas doing the rib battens with copper armature wire and ater doing the bottom wings, I had to take a break from that kit so I finished an old off topic project and then rebuilt a Pegasus Alb W-4 that I ruined trying to ospray dust off of it with alcohol & an airbrush. It's now better than befoore and just neds rigging. What you building. Regards sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 07:44:46 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Back on line Message-ID: <007301bee0ca$3ff096a0$c52c45cf@default> >Hay, good to have you back. The Ilya is at > >http://adm.infoart.ru/avia/company/monino/e_monino/il_mur.htm > >It is in the Moscow Museum at Monino. It is a replica. Though a nice one > >rob johnson Hi Rob: Thanks for the welcome and the steer to the I'lya site. I've been resting the Ilya for a few weeks. It will go back oon the bench as soon as I re rig an Alb W-4 I rebuilt. What are you up to? Regards sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:54:10 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New Images & Return to list Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD47598A@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Todd, 1. Welcome back 2. Forgiven, just don't mention ME-thingies and > I don't have a website and I do know better than to post > direct to the list. > If anyone would like some pics, or if anyone can suggest a > location online, > I'd be glad to post them. (I don't know if they are worthy of > posting to the WWI pages). ..bollocks. Send them to Al, then we can all enjoy them. And I bet we will, Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 05:10:58 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: New Images & Return to list Message-ID: <19990807121059.37160.qmail@hotmail.com> <.bollocks.> Ah the eloquence that is "Strine" ;¬) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:17:12 EDT From: THENRYS@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Images & Return to list Message-ID: <50bedf46.24dd7dc8@aol.com> In a message dated 8/7/99 8:12:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, peter_leonard@hotmail.com writes: << Ah the eloquence that is "Strine" ;¬) >> I was going to say that I knew I was back at the first sign of 'Bollocks' I'll try to send Al the pics today. Todd Henry (Who's always wished that word was an American invention) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:24:36 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New Images & Return to list Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD47598C@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Peter, > Ah the eloquence that is "Strine" ;¬) I think it's actually from the choooms. But we'll claim it :-) > I was going to say that I knew I was back at the first sign > of 'Bollocks' I'll try to send Al the pics today. Excellent. I knew a serious intellectual argument would sway you. > > Todd Henry > (Who's always wished that word was an American invention) It has great *presence* doesn't it. I think I'll make it the word of the week. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:29:46 EDT From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Images & Return to list Message-ID: <9c51ae1c.24dd80ba@aol.com> "It has great *presence* doesn't it. I think I'll make it the word of the week." I don't want a bayonet in me belly, I don't want me bollocks shot away, I'd rather stay in England, In Merry Merry England, and Fornicate my bleeding life awayyyyyy...... Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:51:10 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: The prodigious strikes again Message-ID: <199908070851_MC2-8021-2314@compuserve.com> Everyone, Uh, how do I say this. A while back Shane referred to my prodigious output of models. I looked the word up to get the full meaning. It's a 15th century word that has several implications but one is "extraordinary in bulk, quantity, or degree,." The more I thought about that word, the more I liked it. Prodigious. Yes, it has a nice sound to it. What is all of this rambling leading up to? I finished another kit last night. Yep, painted, decaled and photographed. Even made the little name tag for when its on display in my case. When a model gets its name tag, it's finished. I have to keep it under cover for a while but I wanted you to know that # 90 has been completed. The countdown begins. With my next kit, which is ummm, nearing completion, I will be in single digits in my 100 kit goal by the end of 2000. AMS almost got me but I was able to find an anti venom that worked. I will be moving my web site shortly as I used up my 5mgs of free space. Didn't even know how to spell web site in January and now I've maxed out my account. See what happens to you when you get around a group of people who inspire you. I will let all of you know when the move takes place. I've been upgrading the site and now with the additional space, I can add some things I've wanted to. Will keep you posted. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 7/2/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 07:54:20 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Update on the "Oyster" story Message-ID: <37AC2C7C.1390@prodigy.net> Len Smith wrote: > Would anyone care to offer a translation into English of the "Oyster" story? > All I can gather is that the pilot did something exceptional, but beyond > that the language (jargon?) defeats me. If anyone requires any more specific carrier jargon translation, contact me off list. Ken hagerupk@prodigy.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:04:28 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ribs Message-ID: <19990807.082137.-78911.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:26:12 -0400 (EDT) "dfernet0" writes: > Question #2: the plans that you send me once (thanks again!:-)) show > the > throttle mounted on the fuselage left wall. I was wondering > yesterday if the > kind of grip used on the Rolands control column (an inverted V > shape) > allowed for a grip throttle, different from the Albatros grip or the > Fokker > grip. > Why do I know so little? Just thinking when two years ago I just > glued in a > molded pilot and that was all the cockpit detailing for me! Ah, AMS has attached itself to another soul. :-) As far as I can tell, there was no throttle on the control grip. Just the one on the side. At least that's how I modeled it. ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html nb: Still the Jacobs D.VII. Glossed and waiting for decals. I used - for the first time ever on 1/72nd - photoetch Spandau jackets by Copper State. Verdict still out on those. I started with Fotocut, but only had one set and accidentally crunched a jacket. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 08:42:17 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The prodigious strikes again Message-ID: <37AC37B9.E76AAE0C@ionet.net> > With my next kit,which is ummm, nearing completion, I will be in single > digits in my 100 kitgoal by the end of 2000. Gee Dennis I bought over 600 kits in the last 10 years. ( Built about 12) > AMS almost got me but I was able to find an anti venom that worked. WHERE??? HOW MUCH??? HOW LONG DOES IT LAST???? DOES IT COME IN DIME OR NICKEL BAGS?? > Didn't even know how to spell web site in January and now I've maxed out my > account. . AMEN!! TO THAT BRO! My only hold back is the ole movie camera linked to DAZZLE won't provide the detail I want to go public with. DITTO, you modelers are a verbose bunch, but the months I've spent sharing with you all have been truly OUTSTANDING, AND ANOTHER PUBLIC BIG THANK YOU TO THE WEBMASTER FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN!! Tom Solinski ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 09:59:17 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Fast Eddie Message-ID: <37AC3BB5.767CA0B@ptdprolog.net> Just heard an interview on NPR with an author who has written a "novel" about Eddie Rickenbacker. Sounded like it was a little loose with facts and big on the author's impressions, hence his characterisation as a novel. Can't remember the author's name, however. Mike Muth nb: 1/48 Pfalz D-IIIa...Yellow Nose/Red body & Silver wings as in the DatafileSpecial nu: Linke-Crawford's Albatros as soon as I get the pin vise in the mail to help wit rigging holes. nl: Car Talk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 09:48:28 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sopwith Tripe S/Ns maybe again Message-ID: <37AC473C.1B155D16@ionet.net> Hi List Probably a worn out question, but I can't find the answer in the archives. The profile in the Edward Tripe has the captions mixed up. So I question if the serial numbers match the airplane shown. Is N5482 MAUD and is N5454 HILDA? None of my ref's show either of these A/C Thanks Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:06:43 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The prodigious strikes again Message-ID: <6fff35b4.24dda583@aol.com> Just in case others of you want to become webmasters like Dennis, it is not as hard as thought, if you buy this book: "HTML for the World Wide Web" by Elizabeth Castro. Costs abut US$20, and you can find it at Amazon or Barnes and Noble. The book has specific chapters about doing specific things, and you don't have to do anything but skip around to what you want. Gives you step-by-step exactly the instructions you need to do what you want. Damn good value for money - In June 1997 when my girlfriend bought it I couldn't spell "website." I can say that The Aeronut (which celebrates 2 years on the web today, gotta go put something up about that) would not exist without this book and I would never have gotten the confidence to become part of something like IM without this. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:10:58 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Making websites Message-ID: <3ece8fa6.24dda682@aol.com> A further point about learning HTML, rather than using "Front Page" or something like that: The programs that make it "easy" to write html and make web pages are KB-eaters. They have a lot of instructions in them they aren't necessarily using, but those instructions are eating your space. Learn HTML (it you can add 2+2=4, you can do it) and you can write nice, clean, simple instructions, putting up only what you need and saving the KBs for what you want to show the world. When you have a 5-10MB space and a lot of stuff, it matters. HTML has such an easy "on-off" internal logic that even dummies like me can figure it out over a weekend. Using these "easy" programs is like Screenwriters buying "writing programs" and thinking they're "writers" now. Like most everything else, learning to do it yourself is better. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 08:22:15 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Making websites Message-ID: <19990807152215.83898.qmail@hotmail.com> Hear-hear. If an old duffer like me can hack it, it must be a doddle. Front Page came free with my system but I haven't a clue what to do with it. The Complete Idiots Guide to HTML4 was my only expense, nice chatty style and you have a web site at the end of it. Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:09:01 -0500 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: The prodigious strikes again Message-ID: <199908071609.LAA26674@sierra.onr.com> Congratulations oh prodigious one! 90 and counting. Amazing. Looking forward to seeing the birds! Regards, Richard ---------- > From: Dennis Ugulano > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: The prodigious strikes again > Date: Saturday, August 07, 1999 7:52 AM > > Everyone, > > Uh, how do I say this. A while back Shane referred to my > prodigious output of models. I looked the word up to get the full meaning. > It's a 15th century word that has several implications but one is > "extraordinary in bulk, quantity, or degree,." The more I thought about > that word, the more I liked it. Prodigious. Yes, it has a nice sound to > it. > > What is all of this rambling leading up to? I finished another kit > last night. Yep, painted, decaled and photographed. Even made the little > name tag for when its on display in my case. When a model gets its name > tag, it's finished. > > I have to keep it under cover for a while but I wanted you to know > that # 90 has been completed. The countdown begins. With my next kit, > which is ummm, nearing completion, I will be in single digits in my 100 kit > goal by the end of 2000. AMS almost got me but I was able to find an anti > venom that worked. > > I will be moving my web site shortly as I used up my 5mgs of free > space. Didn't even know how to spell web site in January and now I've > maxed out my account. See what happens to you when you get around a group > of people who inspire you. I will let all of you know when the move takes > place. I've been upgrading the site and now with the additional space, I > can add some things I've wanted to. Will keep you posted. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies > Page Revised 7/2/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 12:06:52 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Back on line Message-ID: <37AC67AC.2A3D9EF1@black-hole.com> I been doing a whole lot of off topic. Though the Fokker E-V cockpit is coming along thanks to Lee J Mensinger an a slew of photos he sent. I am actually enjoying puttering with this and then setting it aside for a change. Usual I start a kit and the cram through it. rob johnson smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > > >Hay, good to have you back. The Ilya is at > > > >http://adm.infoart.ru/avia/company/monino/e_monino/il_mur.htm > > > >It is in the Moscow Museum at Monino. It is a replica. Though a nice one > > > >rob johnson > > Hi Rob: > > Thanks for the welcome and the steer to the I'lya site. > > I've been resting the Ilya for a few weeks. It will go back oon the bench as > soon as I re rig an Alb W-4 I rebuilt. > > What are you up to? > > Regards > sp -- roguerpj "Its not you. My spell checker couldn't figure it out either." ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1756 **********************