WWI Digest 1753 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Thulin D Photo Link by Brent & Tina Theobald 2) Re: Latest Part by peter crow 3) Re: Travel by Ernest Thomas 4) Re: Latest Part by Brent & Tina Theobald 5) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by Dennis Ugulano 6) Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Dick Smith" 7) Sierra sale thru August by "Robert Norgren" 8) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by "Len Smith" 9) Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Bob Pearson" 10) Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by Ernest Thomas 11) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by "PETER LEONARD" 12) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by "Bob Pearson" 13) AH Serials typeface by "Robert Woodbury" 14) Re: Replic #95 by Franco Poloni 15) vacations by Franco Poloni 16) Re: AH Serials typeface by Matthew E Bittner 17) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by Matthew E Bittner 18) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by Matthew E Bittner 19) Ribs by "dfernet0" 20) Pegasus by "dfernet0" 21) Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods by "cameron rile" 22) Re: Travel by "cameron rile" 23) Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods by "PETER LEONARD" 24) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by Scottfking@aol.com 25) Re: Pegasus by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 26) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by "PETER LEONARD" 27) RE: Pegasus by "dfernet0" 28) Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 29) Formers WAS: Ribs by "dfernet0" 30) Foncking decals by "PETER LEONARD" 31) What's in a name (was Admission of Guilt Re: Who started the by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 32) Re: Formers WAS: Ribs by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 33) Jacobs' Photo Album by "Jay Humphreys" 34) Der Rittmeister URL by "Jay Humphreys" 35) Re: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by GRBroman@aol.com 36) Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by Sharon Henderson 37) The Butler.... :-) by Sharon Henderson 38) Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods by "Mark Shanks" 39) Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods by Mike Fletcher ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:39:44 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thulin D Photo Link Message-ID: <37A9158F.965729FA@airmail.net> I forgot to include a link to the Thulin D in my last post.... Here you go! http://maki.simplenet.com/cgm/aviation/thulin_d.jpg Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Latest Part Message-ID: <19990805025750.6226.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> --- Matthew E Bittner wrote: > I just saw on Jadar that the latest Part photoetch > is out for the Toko > Berg D.I. Looks good! Check out: > Who carries these in the US??? P. Crow _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:58:03 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Travel Message-ID: <37A8FDBB.55DE@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > OTOH, if you come here you don't need a green card! But if you come here, you don't need $8M. ;p E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 22:13:29 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Latest Part Message-ID: <37A91D78.13D1CBCF@airmail.net> peter crow wrote: > Who carries these in the US??? I just checked with Roll Models. The Aviatik set was new to him, but he can get it. Roll Models is the only source of Part products I know of in the US. Has anyone had problems with Part P/E fitting properly? I heard that a few sets were pulled from the shelves due to complaints, but I can't remember which... Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:21:17 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <199908050021_MC2-7FD0-CC7E@compuserve.com> Brent, >> I am looking for a 1/72 scale kit of this aircraft to modify into a Thulin D. << Scaleplanes made the Morane-Saulnier L a number of years back. Not sure where you can find one at this time. You will be looking for kit # SP-006. I don't have any Thulin's in my collection and don't recall any being released. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 7/2/99 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 05:24:02 +0100 From: "Dick Smith" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: But Sharon - all you've done is made those of us on both lists read it all twice!! (Rapidly losing the will to go on...) Regards, Dick Smith R_Smith@aulton.demon.co.uk http://www.aulton.demon.co.uk ---------- >From: "Sharon Henderson" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war >Date: Thu, Aug 5, 1999, 1:20 am > > :-) Yes, it was me. Sorry I didn't save color samples for all the airplanes > and color pix of the markings.... :-( > > So shoot me. I was having an off couple of years, and Krupp wouldn't sell me > the pepto-bismol -- the rat b*st*rd! :-) > > And yes, just in case you were wondering, it was also I who bombed > Richthofen's airfield that night. Billy Bishop was having at it with a couple > of French lassies at a local cafe; I landed in the street and let him fly the > plane home, sans bombs and all ammo spent. ;-) > > GAWD I hope they change the subject SOON over there.... this constant search > for the definitive guilt is making me nuts!! > > Now -- somebody please help me age this Nieuport!! :-) > > (Hi Bob!) > > Cheers, > Sharon > > >> And for those wondering just what the esteemed Reverend Sharon was >> talking about I post for the edification of all ... And here we >> blamed EtH for it ... sorry E. >> >> Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:27:25 -0400 From: "Robert Norgren" To: "Allen" Subject: Sierra sale thru August Message-ID: <000a01bedf03$351ad740$2bb71b26@vucqpqlj> Well, they found another tooth that needs filling, so I have to continue the sale thru August! All Sierra kits as well as Aeroclub kits are on sale at 20% off listed prices. Web address below. Enjoy...ouch! Bob Norgren Sierra Scale Models 2010 Douglass Blvd #1 Louisville KY 40205 phone: 502 451-3745 email: starfusion@earthlink.net For unique 1/48 and 1/72 scale vacform aircraft kits, books and decals, and Aeroclub and Dynavector kits, visit our website at http://sierrascale.hypermart.net/ "All I want is a good sandwich. You see this sandwich here? This tuna sandwich? That's all I want--a good sandwich!" - John Gotti. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:36:16 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <009f01bedf05$84dc1940$fc5b08c3@default> Brent, HR Models list a resin kit of the L, but I don't know what it's like, or where you could get it over there. Possibly Lubos at Vamp? I believe Matt may be thinking of a vac of the Nielsen & Winther Aa which was issued a couple of years ago. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 3:22 AM Subject: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? > Hello gang! > > I am looking for a 1/72 scale kit of this aircraft to modify into a > Thulin D. Thulin built them under license in Sweden incorporating a few > modifications of his own. I am wanting to build a model of the first > airplane in the Finnish Air Force. This plane was presented to the > Finnish White Army in 1918 by the Swedish Count Eric von Rosen. His > family badge was painted on the wings. The blue swastica on a white > field was adopted as the emblem of the Finnish Air Force to honor him. > > Anyhow, I would appreciate any help in obtaining this kit for my Finnish > collection. > > Thanks! > > Brent > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 22:45:38 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <199908050553.WAA07473@mail.rapidnet.net> A spy !!!!!!!!! a spy from the other list ....... !!!!!!!!!! Okay, on topic .... after three months of doing no new profiles I have finally started on some Nieuport 28s . . . . Bob ---------- >From: "Dick Smith" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war >Date: Wed, Aug 4, 1999, 10:31 PM > > But Sharon - all you've done is made those of us on both lists read it all > twice!! > > (Rapidly losing the will to go on...) > > Regards, > Dick Smith > R_Smith@aulton.demon.co.uk > http://www.aulton.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 00:51:40 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <37A9266C.2A3E@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > Okay, on topic .... after three months of doing no new profiles I have > finally started on some Nieuport 28s . . . . HOORAYYYY!!! and there was much rejoicing... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:00:02 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <19990805060002.70992.qmail@hotmail.com> Back in 19 ought sixty whatever, if you wanted a Morane you cut back a Revell Fokker EIII. Mind you, they're not exactly thick on the ground now either. Point your prayer mat at the Ukraine and pray to Toko. Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:21:04 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <199908050629.XAA08437@mail.rapidnet.net> How soon they forget .... One Matthew Bittner reviewed a 1/72 resin MS-L in the May Internet Modeler .. it can be found at ... http://www.internetmodeler.com/may99/first-looks/first_hr_msl.htm Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 Aviation page http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ---------- >From: Matthew E Bittner > > Wasn't there a vac of the Thulin that came out a couple of years ago? > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:58:51 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: AH Serials typeface Message-ID: <000001bedf0f$f9a69520$91107482@per.clw.csiro.au> Hi All, Anyone out there have any idea for a good match of the type face used for the serials on Austro Hungarian aircraft? Thanks, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:39:18 +0200 From: Franco Poloni To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Replic #95 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970805093918.006a05ac@lo.itline.it> At 17.02 03/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >I see on Squadron's site they have Replic #95 in. The short blurb says >there's an article on building the new 1/48th Breguet 14. Hopefully >they'll provide a "photoscope" of the original. > > > Matt Yes, they do. and photos are very interersting, at least 3 shots of cockpit installations. if I recall correctly there are about 20 photos of original plane or replicas. Franco ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:56:23 +0200 From: Franco Poloni To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: vacations Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970805095623.0068649c@lo.itline.it> Hi guys I will be away for a couple of weeks. ciao Franco ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:31:40 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AH Serials typeface Message-ID: <19990805.054359.-26361.6.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:57:36 -0400 (EDT) "Robert Woodbury" writes: > Anyone out there have any idea for a good match of the type face > used for > the serials on Austro Hungarian aircraft? One thing you could do is look for the Blue Rider decal sheet that has nothing but A-H serial numbers on it. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:27:40 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <19990805.054359.-26361.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Dennis Ugulano writes: > Scaleplanes made the Morane-Saulnier L a number of years > back. Not > sure where you can find one at this time. You will be looking for > kit # > SP-006. I don't have any Thulin's in my collection and don't recall > any > being released. Go to the web pages I created for MoS': http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/MoS/mos72_m.htm This lists all known MoS models. I still think someone came out with a Thulin vac... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:30:56 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <19990805.054359.-26361.5.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:43:58 -0400 (EDT) "Len Smith" writes: > HR Models list a resin kit of the L, but I don't know what it's > like, or > where you could get it over there. Possibly Lubos at Vamp? I picked mine up through Ivan at Silverbird. It's not a bad kit, but be prepared to spend a lot of time thinning the wing. In scale, I would say out of the box it would be more suited to a Junkers J.I than a MoS Type L. Otherwise the kit is very fine. I provided a "first look" review for it in IM. > I believe Matt may be thinking of a vac of the Nielsen & Winther Aa > which > was issued a couple of years ago. You know, you may be right. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:54:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Ribs Message-ID: <007101bede67$ae01bda0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt I've been thinking (you know I sometimes do that) about the "sandwich" method of interior ribs in the RolDII. This plane has an oblique rib, in libe with the aft members of the undercarriage legs, don't it? You did half a fuselage at a time, don't you? How did you do to get a good mating surface of the first plastic strip? In the fuselage sides there's no problem, but in the "turtledeck" portion, the end of the strip that should be stuck very precisely to match with the other side has very little surface to glue. If this first strip isn't frirmly attached, the second will be loose too. How did you manage it? Epoxy? D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:58:43 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Pegasus Message-ID: <007701bede68$5135d4c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi list I couldn't resist it. I bought a Taube from Pegasus, What the h*ll! Has anyone seen one? Comments? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:11:13 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods Message-ID: <199908050407094@cameron.prontomail.com> >2) spilling a little oil and whatever on it I took two pictures of the Rhinebeck N11 with its oil stains around the engine. Sort of looked like someone had spat honey on it. http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/artattack/photos/engine003.jpg http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/artattack/photos/engine002.jpg The page they link off is : http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/artattack/rhinebeck99.htm cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:22:33 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Travel Message-ID: <199908050418134@cameron.prontomail.com> >> OTOH, if you come here you don't need a green card! >But if you come here, you don't need $8M. ;p It is only 1 million in the US as long as you generate more than 20 jobs in an area of low employment. It is much greater if you wish to start a business in an area of high employment. I still havent got my greencard yet, been nigh on 12 months since I applied, my work visa is due to run out too. They change the forms every 6 months on you so you have to fill them out anew and than way cant complain about the long time it is taking lol. Both Australia and the US have pretty rigid rules about immigration, it will be just as difficult for my wife to get work and residence status in Australia as it is proving for me to do the same in the US. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 04:35:14 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods Message-ID: <19990805113515.84504.qmail@hotmail.com> Sort of looked like someone had spat honey onit. Cam, anyone who ever owned a BSA two stroke motorcycle will know how eloquent is your description. A sort of treakly brown gunge in every crevice. For the little weathing and staining I do in "the manly scale" I use artists water colour pencils. Once it's on the model it can be blended with a damp brush, just wet on the tongue is enough. The effect is quite subtle and is easily removed if you don't like it. Peter L IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:38:09 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <1e824606.24dad1a1@aol.com> I think a company named Twelve Squared did one also, in 1/72 scale, several years ago. It supposedly had parts and markings for both Morane and Pfalz versions. I was tempted to get one then, but I was reluctant to buy one "sight unseen". Twelve Squared is still around I believe. Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:18:50 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pegasus Message-ID: >Hi list >I couldn't resist it. I bought a Taube from Pegasus, What the h*ll! Has >anyone seen one? Comments? >D. Why, what's wrong? Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 05:14:19 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <19990805121423.10178.qmail@hotmail.com> Don't know of a web page, but I do do have this Twelve Squared P.O. Box 21567 Eagan, MN 55121-0567 Peter L IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:14:30 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Pegasus Message-ID: <008c01bede72$e7c2e4a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> My credit card account ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin & Kimberley To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Pegasus > >Hi list > >I couldn't resist it. I bought a Taube from Pegasus, What the h*ll! Has > >anyone seen one? Comments? > >D. > > > Why, what's wrong? > > Kevin Barrett. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:18:31 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods Message-ID: Sharon, An avid treadhead told me once to take some iron nails, get them wet, and let them lie around a few days to get nice and rusty. Then take a file or sandpaper to remove and save the rust, and apply it with a brush like a pastel chalk. Speaking of which, I like using the water color pencils to apply streaks, smudges, etc. You can then take a damp paper towel or cloth to "feather out" the edges to blend it in. Nicest of all, if you don't scratch through your paint, you can remove any mistakes with water and start over. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:17:21 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Formers WAS: Ribs Message-ID: <009201bede73$4e01d1e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sorry :-0 I just realized that I used the wrong word in my post about the Roland DII. Where I wrote fuselage "ribs" I meant fuselage "formers". Is very difficult to write in a foreign language and thing at the same time. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 05:17:50 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Foncking decals Message-ID: <19990805121752.56916.qmail@hotmail.com> Anyone know where (or if) I can find decals for a SPA 103 SPAD? Needed for a Foncke project, any scale. Peter L IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:23:01 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: What's in a name (was Admission of Guilt Re: Who started the Message-ID: Many years ago, when I was a kid in Omaha, my dad had to call someone at Offutt Air Force base on business. The guy who answered the phone told him "This is Captain Courageous speaking". My dad promptly told him "Yeah, well this is Mickey Mouse" and hung up. Really, it's a true story. >> > BTW I did honestly have a platoon leader back in my Military Police days > named Lt. Panik. I've often wondered if he stayed in long enough to > become a Major or get a star..................... The commander of my Security Police Squadron in 1975 at Elmendorf AFB, AK was Major Elmo D. Gadd........E. Gadd!!! << Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:35:00 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Formers WAS: Ribs Message-ID: > Is very difficult to write in a foreign language and thing at the same time. > D. Take my word for it--it doesn't only happen with foreign languages ;-) Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:42:07 -0400 From: "Jay Humphreys" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Jacobs' Photo Album Message-ID: <000701bedf3f$f0521f00$d2481bd1@aug.com> I don't know if anyone has seen this or not, but Der Rittmeister Militaria has Josef Jacobs' personal photo album for sale. More than 100 photos--several interesting ones are on the website. Way out of my price range--as are just about everything else they have (but I'm saving up for a Sanke card). Maybe the list could purchase this stuff collectively and share the photos? Also, lots of autographs including MvR. No, I don't work for Der Rittmeister---I just look at this stuff and dream of what I'd buy if I ever win the lottery. Jay Humphreys ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:44:00 -0400 From: "Jay Humphreys" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Der Rittmeister URL Message-ID: <000d01bedf40$31e450a0$d2481bd1@aug.com> Sorry, got so excited I forgot to post the address for Der Rittmeister. (I'm sure a few people would like to see it!) It is: http://www.derrittmeister.com/justin.htm Jay Humphreys ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:52:03 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <1019c1ea.24daf103@aol.com> In a message dated 8/4/99, 8:21:45 PM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << GAWD I hope they change the subject SOON over there.... this constant search for the definitive guilt is making me nuts!!>> Pssst, Sharon. The Butler did it........ Glen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:01:24 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: >But Sharon - all you've done is made those of us on both lists read it all >twice!! > >(Rapidly losing the will to go on...) > >Regards, >Dick Smith :-( For which I humbly prostrate myself at your feet.... (E., stop thinking like that!! ) Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:25:53 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The Butler.... :-) Message-ID: >Pssst, Sharon. The Butler did it........ > >Glen Ah -- but WHICH givernment did HE work for?? That IS the question! Look for it on a list near you soon.... ;-) Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:56:16 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods Message-ID: <199908051452.HAA19053@elvis.fltdyn.com> Sharon Henderson asks: > Can anyone offer hints, paint colors, places to apply said colors, and other > general cool things to do to age a tail-dragger? Or even suggest especially > apropos pictures I could web to? One thing to keep in mind when applying any "ground-based" weathering, i.e., dirt or dust on the undercarriage or tail skid, is that the basic colo(u)r should be derived from the base the model sits on (if indeed, you mount it on a base). I prefer pastels for this family of weathering, and apply the dust where the model rests, giving it some visual continuity rather than the impression that it has hovered into place and dropped to rest. Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:19:06 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rusting and Other Aging Methods Message-ID: <37A9B97A.A4404353@mars.ark.com> >From my reading I have come to the conclusion that the aluminium dope dulled with age, starting out as a bright silver finish and ending as a dull light grey slightly darker then the initial silver. It also tended to pick up stains different than cdl, there being less of a tendancy to highlight internal structure and more just gunk landing where it may. In extreme cases a blotchiness appears, particularly on the earlier silver doped machines, which to my eyes appear to have been doped by brush (later - ie 17bis, 24 etc appear to be sprayed as their finish is much more consistant) -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1753 **********************