WWI Digest 1752 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Travel by "PETER LEONARD" 2) Re: SPAD A.2 by "Lance Krieg" 3) FW: Who Started What When by "Bob Pearson" 4) Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII by Matthew Zivich 5) Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII by Albatrosdv@aol.com 6) Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII by "PETER LEONARD" 7) RE: Travel by Shane Weier 8) Testing by BEN8800@aol.com 9) Rusting and Other Aging Methods by "Sharon Henderson" 10) FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Bob Pearson" 11) Re: Travel by Ernest Thomas 12) RE: Travel by Shane Weier 13) Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Sharon Henderson" 14) Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by Ernest Thomas 15) RE: Travel by Shane Weier 16) Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Sharon Henderson" 17) RE: Rusting and Other Aging Methods by Shane Weier 18) My Test by BEN8800@aol.com 19) FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Bob Pearson" 20) Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: My Test by "Sharon Henderson" 22) Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Sharon Henderson" 23) Re: while the paint's drying... by "Arron Monroe" 24) Retromodels by Matthew E Bittner 25) RE: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "John Glaser" 26) Latest Part by Matthew E Bittner 27) While y'all reminisce on the start, found some left overs. by Tom Solinski 28) Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by Brent & Tina Theobald 29) Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war by "Mike" 30) Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? by Matthew E Bittner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 05:25:52 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Travel Message-ID: <19990804122559.55731.qmail@hotmail.com> I can fill in the Queensland gap. Went there with the family and spent the best part of a month on the Great Barrier Reef and the Whit Sunday Islands. An experience I shall remember until the day I die. God would choose to live in Australia if only He could get past the Imigration Department :¬) And Austalians are just the best. Enjoy the trip. Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 08:18:01 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: SPAD A.2 Message-ID: > If I ever get my workbench back together, my next effort will be a > SPAD A.2. Anybody got any cockpit shots? Matt Bittner responds: "Wasn't there a mini-datafile on the type?" Yep, and I have that, along with FMP books on both French and Russian AC, which feature the plane. Still nothing good on the 'pit. Lance Krieg (515) 242-4525 ULK@Amerus.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:51:06 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: FW: Who Started What When Message-ID: <199908041659.JAA13336@mail.rapidnet.net> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3016605066_411211_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Although the WW1 history list is usually full of bickering, this just arrived there and I thought y'all might get a laugh from it. Bob ---------- From: "Geoffrey Miller" To: Subject: Who Started What When Date: Wed, Aug 4, 1999, 9:41 AM Dear List, Before this gets out of hand, can I quote from the front page of The Onion for 5 August 1914 (as it appears in "Our Dumb Century" by the editors of The Onion): "WAR DECLARED BY ALL Austria declares war on Serbia declares war on Germany declares war on France declares war on Turkey declares war on Russia declares war on Bulgaria declares war on Britain Ottoman Empire Almost Declares War on Itself Nations Struggle to Remember Allies" Regards, Geoffrey #2 --MS_Mac_OE_3016605066_411211_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable FW: Who Started What When Although the WW1 history list is usually full of bickering, this just arriv= ed there and I thought y'all might get a laugh from it.

Bob

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From: "Geoffrey Miller" <manorhouse@clara.co.uk>
To: <wwi-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: Who Started What When
Date: Wed, Aug 4, 1999, 9:41 AM


Dear List,
 
Before this gets out of hand, can I quote= from the front page of The Onion for 5 August 1914 (as it appears in "= Our Dumb Century" by the editors of The Onion):
 
 

"WAR DECLARED BY ALL
 
Austria declares war on Serbia declares w= ar on Germany declares war on France declares war on Turkey declares war on = Russia declares war on Bulgaria declares war on Britain
 

Ottoman Empire Almost Declares War on Itself

 
Nations Struggle to Remember Allies"=
 

 
Regards,
Geoffrey #2

--MS_Mac_OE_3016605066_411211_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:40:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Zivich To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII Message-ID: These models are crowding the shelves under the SMER label, and their prices are unbeatable. Matt Z ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:49:58 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII Message-ID: <8fe526c7.24d9d746@aol.com> In a message dated 99-08-04 13:41:37 EDT, you write: << These models are crowding the shelves under the SMER label, and their prices are unbeatable. >> There are NOT the Monogram kit, which has been modified from the original Aurora molds to have fabric effect on the fuselage and lower surfaces of wings and tail. These SMER kits are re-pops of the ancient Aurora kit. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:52:29 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII Message-ID: <19990804175229.54297.qmail@hotmail.com> Not quite Matt, the SMER kits are the old Merit molds unimproved. Monograms are the Aurora molds with lots of improvements. The outline and scale innacuracies remain but the detail is much better' Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:19:38 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Travel Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD47596E@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Peter > I can fill in the Queensland gap. Went there with the family > and spent the > best part of a month on the Great Barrier Reef and the Whit > Sunday Islands. In my job as data network manager for a mining company with operations in Central Queensland, I am forced ;-) to spend a week in the area about monthly. I *always* finish my business to allow a half day in the Whitsunday area enroute to the airport and home. Someone may show me a place as beautiful, but I'll bet no-one will show me better. > An experience I shall remember until the day I die. God would > choose to live > in Australia if only He could get past the Imigration > Department :¬) You need to be a refugee. We have taken the highest proportion per capita of refugee immigrants of any country in the period since WW2. And are proud of the way we've assimilated people from all over the world without any racial or ethnic tensions. But....there is still an undercurrent of resentment from those who believe that every immigrant takes a job from a local (not true, stats show they create greater demand), so total immigrant numbers are capped and refugees make a significant proportion. What you need is refugee status. Maybe we should get Matt to persecute you on the basis of your subject choice or something :-) > Enjoy the trip. Indeed. And if you (or any list member) come *anywhere* near Brisbane and don't look me up.....well you'll miss out on the barbeque and I'll get all offended :-) Shane \ ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:10:49 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: seaways-shipmodeling-list@lists.best.com, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Testing Message-ID: This is a test to both my ship model list and my WW1 aircraft list. I have received no messages all day and thats very unusual, especially form the WW1 list. I just want to see if this message comes back to me. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:51:39 -0400 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Rusting and Other Aging Methods Message-ID: <9908041951.AA39410@ft.sumter> Hi folks! Well, since I've sent a message to the UKANS WW1 list guaranteed to make me into flame bait, since I don't think I can stand another post of ANY sort on who started the war and why, I thought I'd come back over here for solace.... :-) I'm planning on hitting the modelling bench tomorrow night (gently to be sure, so I don't break anything!) and was going to try some of the following: 1) putting a little gentle rusting-type stuff on the wheels, etc of my Nieuport 17 2) spilling a little oil and whatever on it and generally making it look as if it's been up and down a few times, rather than pristine out of the hangar. Can anyone offer hints, paint colors, places to apply said colors, and other general cool things to do to age a tail-dragger? Or even suggest especially apropos pictures I could web to? Help? Then I promise I'll take pictures. I promise!! Then I'll even put 'em up on my web site! Honest!! :-) Cheers from Fairfax VA, Sharon "Flame-Bait" Henderson :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 17:00:43 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <199908050008.RAA28011@mail.rapidnet.net> And for those wondering just what the esteemed Reverend Sharon was talking about I post for the edification of all ... And here we blamed EtH for it .... sorry E. Bob ---------- From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Date: Wed, Aug 4, 1999, 4:53 PM OK folks, if it will finally put the discussion to bed for at least the THIRD time this year so far, I'll admit this publicly: *I* started the war. I planned it on purpose, built the planes and ships, flew and sailed all of 'em, won all the victories, lost all the defeats, killed every blessed person who died by whatever means in whatever land on the globe between Aug. 5 1914 and the end of the war. I then went around planting relics so people would be able to find them later, and just to settle it once and for all: YES, it was me who shot down BOTH Albert Ball and Manfred von Richthofen!! Mwah-hah-hah-hah!!! Now. Can we PLEEEEEEEEEASE talk about something else?? We archive these posts for a reason -- so we don't HAVE to rehash everything!! Anyone up for a rousing discussion of the Krupp Manufactory's monopoly on the invention, creation and world-wide sales of Pepto-Bismol?? Tongue firmly in cheek and asbestos-lined clothing donned, Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 19:02:13 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Travel Message-ID: <37A8D485.1FB0@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > What you need is refugee status. Maybe we should get Matt to persecute you > on the basis of your subject choice or something :-) Would that really work? E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:17:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Travel Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475976@mimhexch.mim.com.au> EtH > > What you need is refugee status. Maybe we should get Matt > > to persecute you > > on the basis of your subject choice or something :-) > > Would that really work? Probably not. But if you have $8M as well we might get you in on a combined refugee/business immigrants visa. OTOH, if you come here you don't need a green card! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:20:56 -0400 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <9908042020.AA56007@ft.sumter> :-) Yes, it was me. Sorry I didn't save color samples for all the airplanes and color pix of the markings.... :-( So shoot me. I was having an off couple of years, and Krupp wouldn't sell me the pepto-bismol -- the rat b*st*rd! :-) And yes, just in case you were wondering, it was also I who bombed Richthofen's airfield that night. Billy Bishop was having at it with a couple of French lassies at a local cafe; I landed in the street and let him fly the plane home, sans bombs and all ammo spent. ;-) GAWD I hope they change the subject SOON over there.... this constant search for the definitive guilt is making me nuts!! Now -- somebody please help me age this Nieuport!! :-) (Hi Bob!) Cheers, Sharon > And for those wondering just what the esteemed Reverend Sharon was > talking about I post for the edification of all ... And here we > blamed EtH for it ... sorry E. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 19:21:41 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <37A8D915.30C1@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > > And for those wondering just what the esteemed Reverend Sharon was talking > about I post for the edification of all ... And here we blamed EtH for it > ... sorry E. It was still my idea. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:21:35 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Travel Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475977@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > > > > What you need is refugee status. Maybe we should get Matt > > > to persecute you > > > on the basis of your subject choice or something :-) > > > > Would that really work? > > Probably not. But if you have $8M as well we might get you in > on a combined refugee/business immigrants visa. > I forgot. The $$$ have to be sent in advance. The address is 12 Pikedale Street Murarrie, 4172 Australia. Small denomination, unmarked notes are preferred. ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:30:48 -0400 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <9908042030.AA48701@ft.sumter> > Bob Pearson wrote: > > And for those wondering just what the esteemed Reverend Sharon > > was talking about I post for the edification of all ... And here > > we blamed EtH for it ... sorry E. > > It was still my idea. > E. Yes -- yes, it was. There we were in Sarajevo, having a cup of coffee and discussing just how damned hard it was to live in Wilhelminian Germany, and how bloody peeved we were at King George just on General Principles (E., you remember General Principles -- he commanded the Air Corps at Salonika in '98!), when old Franz Ferdinand and his wifey drove by real slow. E. says to me, "Dare you to REALLY p*ss people off, and pop a shot at them to scare them. We can always blame the Serbs later!" And I was just drunk enough to go along. :-) And, I daresay, just drunk enough not to handily miss. Ooops! So it was E's idea, but having started it, it would have been cruel to stay out of it. ;-) Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:44:36 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Rusting and Other Aging Methods Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475978@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Sharon, I'm not so sure I should tell you this in case you use it somewhere and *I* getthe blame for starting something :-) > > 1) putting a little gentle rusting-type stuff on the wheels, > etc of my Nieuport 17 Dunno about Nieuports specifically, but I like a mix of Future and Burnt Umber watercolour pencil for oil stains. See the Biff wheels on Alans web page, I think it's easy and effective. Just make a spot, drag it to the approximate shape required and let the Future pull the watercolour particles into a nice stain pattern. Add a bit of general grunge (He commanded the Camel Corps in '98 BTW) using drybrushing or (in my case pastels) and Thats Close Enough > 2) spilling a little oil and whatever on it Same deal, except I use a mix of Paynes Grey and Umber. Extra nice for those omnipresent oilstains on Fokker axle fairings > > Can anyone offer hints, paint colors, places to apply said > colors, Plenty oilstreaks in the exhaust channel and on the undersides, a little up the lower edges and higher and thicker towards the firewall. Soak marks too, as opposed to flung oil. Also, oil stains under the lower wings will usually be asymetric. Engine rotates ONE way and the spray goes more to one side. A bit of dinginess around the tailskid and underside of the elevators, also maybe aft of the wheels. Unless the aircraft is supposed to have *just* landed this will NOT look like a tank which has ground through the trenches. I've recently read an erks diary in which he mentions wiping down aircraft after every sortie to reduce damage to the fabric from dampness. > Then I promise I'll take pictures. I promise!! Then I'll > even put 'em up on my web site! Honest!! :-) Yeah, yeah, we believe you. You might also send one of the model and a picture of yourself to Alan so's we can all look and point ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:56:38 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, seaways-shipmodeling-list@lists.best.com Subject: My Test Message-ID: <4f14f747.24da3b46@aol.com> Everything ok now. I think there was a lull somewhere. I had no mail from 1 pm to 5:30 pm, then got lots. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 18:02:00 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <199908050110.SAA31278@mail.rapidnet.net> And to show that some of the other list DO have a sense of humour ... Bob ---------- From: "kenneth w. hoffmann" To: wwi-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Date: Wed, Aug 4, 1999, 5:51 PM You know, I had a hankering suspicion sonething like that happened. BTW, for the record, where were you 1939-45? :-) ---kenneth Sharon Henderson wrote: > OK folks, if it will finally put the discussion to bed for at least the THIRD > time this year so far, I'll admit this publicly: > > *I* started the war. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 20:02:55 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <37A8E2BF.663D@bellsouth.net> Sharon Henderson wrote: > So it was E's idea, but having started it, it would have been cruel to stay > out of it. ;-) Well, as long as we're playing true confessions, I gotta tell ya Sharon. I wasn't really peeved at King George. I just said that so you would stay for another drink or eight. As for General Principles, I share Oscar Wilde's opinion on that. I served under Major Apathy, see. But ya gotta admit, we had a great time huh? E. btw, I thought about saving some of your color chips, but sometimes, memories are better than facts. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:04:22 -0400 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My Test Message-ID: <9908042104.AA22821@ft.sumter> > Everything ok now. I think there was a lull somewhere. I had no mail > from 1 pm to 5:30 pm, then got lots. It's the air here in Virginia.... :-) Sharon, Fairfax ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:12:06 -0400 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <9908042112.AA06745@ft.sumter> > Sharon Henderson wrote: > > So it was E's idea, but having started it, it would have been cruel > > to stay out of it. ;-) > > Well, as long as we're playing true confessions, I gotta tell ya Sharon. > I wasn't really peeved at King George. I just said that so you would > stay for another drink or eight. AH-HAH!! Now the truth comes out! And I suppose you had a hand in Krupp's pocket, too! Hmm?? > As for General Principles, I share Oscar Wilde's opinion on that. > I served under Major Apathy, see. Fine man. A little slow to move, and NEVER excited about much, but a fine man. > But ya gotta admit, we had a great time huh? One of the Best, old chum! :-) > E. > btw, I thought about saving some of your color chips, but > sometimes, memories are better than facts. Yup. Now, was it Goering who painted his plane Pepto-Bismol pink? Or was that Rickenbacker? I can never keep those two straight.... :-) S. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:17:59 -0400 From: "Arron Monroe" To: Subject: Re: while the paint's drying... Message-ID: <007601bedee0$5df488a0$afa15f18@twcny.rr.com> Looks interesting, I may have to give them a try. AM ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:07 AM Subject: while the paint's drying... > Hi All, > > I'm just sitting here killing a little time and thought I'd pass along > this link; http://www.aeroplanebooks.com/index.html > > I bought about 5 or 6 Datafiles from these folks in Orlando, and they > had a good selection of books (including a copy of the Apostolo/Begnozzi > profiles book), as well as the best prices for DF's that I saw at the > whole convention. > Their website list every DF still in print and they're priced at 15.95 > US, if anybody's been looking for a US supplier. > Bill and Barbra Byrd are the folks who run this and they were very nice > people. > Just passing it on... > E. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:46:50 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Retromodels Message-ID: <19990804.204651.-171245.0.mbittner@juno.com> I just received my first - and only - Retromodels kit. 1/72nd, all resin kit of the Renault 1914 armored "truck" with the 47mm "autocanon" in the back. It's not bad, quality wise. There's a ridge - major like - I'll have to deal with on the "port" side, toward the bottom. Some flash, and huge pour blocks. Why is this my last? I feel almost like I bought the JMGT St. Charmond. This smallish kit cost me US$30! Gads... Hopefully one of these days it'll be built. One of these days. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:50:27 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <001a01bedee4$e51d6050$9b01820a@usalbhlslt026> BTW I did honestly have a platoon leader back in my Military Police days named Lt. Panik. I've often wondered if he stayed in long enough to become a Major or get a star..................... - JCG _________ _|__o__|_ _|_(\)_|_ h d-b -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Ernest Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 8:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Sharon Henderson wrote: > So it was E's idea, but having started it, it would have been cruel to stay > out of it. ;-) Well, as long as we're playing true confessions, I gotta tell ya Sharon. I wasn't really peeved at King George. I just said that so you would stay for another drink or eight. As for General Principles, I share Oscar Wilde's opinion on that. I served under Major Apathy, see. But ya gotta admit, we had a great time huh? E. btw, I thought about saving some of your color chips, but sometimes, memories are better than facts. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:05:32 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Latest Part Message-ID: <19990804.210533.-86413.0.mbittner@juno.com> I just saw on Jadar that the latest Part photoetch is out for the Toko Berg D.I. Looks good! Check out: http://www.jadar.com.pl/html/part/72090.htm Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:09:19 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: While y'all reminisce on the start, found some left overs. Message-ID: <37A8F24F.FDC8B749@ionet.net> Once again while hunting my Polish heritage, found a neat OT &ot site enjoy Tom S. http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/obrazki.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:19:21 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <37A910C8.73634941@airmail.net> Hello gang! I am looking for a 1/72 scale kit of this aircraft to modify into a Thulin D. Thulin built them under license in Sweden incorporating a few modifications of his own. I am wanting to build a model of the first airplane in the Finnish Air Force. This plane was presented to the Finnish White Army in 1918 by the Swedish Count Eric von Rosen. His family badge was painted on the wings. The blue swastica on a white field was adopted as the emblem of the Finnish Air Force to honor him. Anyhow, I would appreciate any help in obtaining this kit for my Finnish collection. Thanks! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:30:55 -0700 From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: FW: Admission of Guilt was: Re: Who started the war Message-ID: <000801bedeea$8f59e7a0$5b8c3ace@default> > BTW I did honestly have a platoon leader back in my Military Police days > named Lt. Panik. I've often wondered if he stayed in long enough to become > a Major or get a star..................... > > - JCG The commander of my Security Police Squadron in 1975 at Elmendorf AFB, AK was Major Elmo D. Gadd........E. Gadd!!! Mike Dicianna "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:30:20 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Parasol Type L? Message-ID: <19990804.213021.-163201.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Brent & Tina Theobald writes: > I am looking for a 1/72 scale kit of this aircraft to modify into a > Thulin D. Thulin built them under license in Sweden incorporating a > few > modifications of his own. I am wanting to build a model of the first > airplane in the Finnish Air Force. This plane was presented to the > Finnish White Army in 1918 by the Swedish Count Eric von Rosen. His > family badge was painted on the wings. The blue swastica on a white > field was adopted as the emblem of the Finnish Air Force to honor > him. Wasn't there a vac of the Thulin that came out a couple of years ago? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1752 **********************