WWI Digest 1751 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I revisited.... by "Mark L. Shannon" 2) Re: Wire wheels by "Len Smith" 3) Re: Wire wheels by "Lance Krieg" 4) Re: Wire wheels by "Lance Krieg" 5) Images, was Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I revisited.... by Matthew E Bittner 6) Replic #95 by Matthew E Bittner 7) Re: Internet Modeler by Matthew E Bittner 8) RE: Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 9) Images, was Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I by "Lance Krieg" 10) FMP Air Aces of the A-H Empire by BStett3770@aol.com 11) Re: JN4 Left engine mounts by BEN8800@aol.com 12) Jenny gas tank indent by BEN8800@aol.com 13) Re: Images, was Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I by Matthew E Bittner 14) Tom-M's 1/72nd scale Vickers FB-5 by mkendix 15) Re: Internet Modeler by Ernest Thomas 16) Monogram / Aurora D VII by Russell W Niles 17) Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII by Albatrosdv@aol.com 18) Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII by Ernest Thomas 19) Flight Weekly by Brent & Tina Theobald 20) You never know what you'll find by "Eli Geher" 21) Travel by "Millen, Alan R." 22) French mud, was WWI figures by Edward Swaim 23) RE: Travel by Shane Weier 24) while the paint's drying... by Ernest Thomas 25) BM sale by Ernest Thomas 26) Info on the Berg D.I by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: BM sale by Albatrosdv@aol.com 28) Re: BM sale by Brent & Tina Theobald 29) Re: BM sale by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 30) Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII by "PETER LEONARD" 31) Re: Flight Weekly by "Len Smith" 32) Re: BM sale by "PETER LEONARD" 33) Re: BM sale by Albatrosdv@aol.com 34) RE: French mud, was WWI figures by "dfernet0" 35) Re: Travel by "cameron rile" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:43:45 -0500 From: "Mark L. Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I revisited.... Message-ID: <199908031740.MAA19537@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> Leaving aside the wire wheels portion, if I understood part of the original question, the tire material also needed to be considered. Probably the best items you can get for WWI aircraft tires are O-rings. You may have to look at some specialty suppliers to get a side variety of types, but they are a commodity item that are available in a variety of sizes and many colors -- though mostly black -- as coding for size or material. You can even get the ubiquitous Eduard "Beige" or Pink. I think this gives a better tire than the wire insullation mentioned. .Mark. ---------- > From: Lance Krieg > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I revisited.... > Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 10:34 AM > > Mike Dicianna, "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer", inquires about constructing these, presumably in the preferred 1/48 scale where the spokes can still be seen.... > > IIRC, Harry Woodman reprised his pioneering photo-etch discussion in a fairly recent "Windsock", which included detailed instruction on the construction of these wheels. And, the original "Scale Models" article from 1975 or so also explained the process. > > Unfortunately, my entire workshop/library is completely disassembled for a complete overhaul, and I can't find a damn thing, so someone else will need to locate the articles. > > They're not hard to make, though they ARE easy to kink. I straighten out any bends by inserting a pin through the hub, pinning the edges down with an appropriately-sized circle template, and gently pulling the hub upward to straighten out the spokes and create a cone-shaped facet that mimics the prototype. > > I usually use a small snippet of brass tubing as an axle sleeve, super-glued between the two brass wheel halves. > > Does any of that make sense? > > Lance > Currently suffering severe withdrawal as I haven't put scalpel to plastic since March ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:11:50 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Wire wheels Message-ID: <000001bedde0$085a48e0$f55c08c3@default> Lance wrote > Mike Dicianna, "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer", inquires about constructing these, presumably in the preferred 1/48 scale where the spokes can still be seen.... > > IIRC, Harry Woodman reprised his pioneering photo-etch discussion in a fairly recent "Windsock", which included detailed instruction on the construction of these wheels. And, the original "Scale Models" article from 1975 or so also explained the process. > Actually the article was in the March/April 1994 Windsock! Time flies when you are enjoying yourself. One point that Harry makes in this article is that the rim of the Pe spokes should be removed before assembly is commenced, ie only the spokes themselves with the hub are intended to be used. This is not mentioned in the Fotocut instructions nor the Scale Models article. Mike, if you need photocopies of both articles let me know off list with your postal address. Regards Len. PS. When will someone (CSM? ) produce wheel etchings in Nickel Silver? lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:54:18 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Wire wheels Message-ID: > > IIRC, Harry Woodman reprised his pioneering photo-etch discussion in a fairly recent "Windsock", which included detailed instruction on the construction of these wheels. And, the original "Scale Models" article from 1975 or so also explained the process. > Actually the article was in the March/April 1994 Windsock! Time flies when you are enjoying yourself. One point that Harry makes in this article is that the rim of the Pe spokes should be removed before assembly is commenced, ie only the spokes themselves with the hub are intended to be used. This is not mentioned in the Fotocut instructions nor the Scale Models article. Mike, if you need photocopies of both articles let me know off list with your postal address. Regards Len. PS. When will someone (CSM? ) produce wheel etchings in Nickel Silver? lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:03:17 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Wire wheels Message-ID: Len points out that 1994 is not "fairly recent", which I must confess is true. The older I get, the faster tiime flies... at least my memory is good; it seems like only last week! I do NOT cut the PE rims off, as Harry Woodman suggests, and have not had any particular problems. YMMV Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:50:51 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Images, was Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I revisited.... Message-ID: <19990803.155714.-72221.2.mbittner@juno.com> For those who haven't seen yet, Lance has supplied two more models to Al's site. Lance, excellent job! Especially the little sesquiplane. ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:56:20 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Replic #95 Message-ID: <19990803.155714.-72221.4.mbittner@juno.com> I see on Squadron's site they have Replic #95 in. The short blurb says there's an article on building the new 1/48th Breguet 14. Hopefully they'll provide a "photoscope" of the original. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:52:47 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Message-ID: <19990803.155714.-72221.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:37:30 -0400 (EDT) "dfernet0" writes: > The same goes for Matt's Roland. Terricfic pictures, but I only > wished a > close-up of the cockpit and undercarriage detail, features well > descripted > in the article. Matt, the time you spent building this was worthly > spent. > It's a wonderful model. Thanks for the kudos. The biggest problem with the digital camera being used is its lack of a close up. I may have to find a macro for my SLR, and try my hand once again at model photography. I will remember to show more details for the next one. :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:14:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Internet Modeler Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475965@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > I will remember to show more details for the next one. :-) > By then we can firmly expect the Internet to provide 3D solids for our inspection, and digital cameras which build the model first ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:30:15 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Images, was Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I Message-ID: Thank you, Matt. Trust you to prefer a French machine, even a Macchi version. I've got a SPAD, too, that I need to photograph, and believe it or not, a trio of 1/72 planes that include a Nieuport 17 in actual French colors! Too small to be of much interest, of course, and completed before I saw the light and moved to the manly scale. If I ever get my workbench back together, my next effort will be a SPAD A.2. Anybody got any cockpit shots? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:47:08 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: FMP Air Aces of the A-H Empire Message-ID: <179c964a.24d8bd5c@aol.com> Hi Gang Spoke to Flying Machines Press today, the are down to the Last Few copies of Air Aces of the Austro- Hungarian Empire in W.W.I: By Dr. Martin O'Connor I have 10 copies on the way So if anyone out there wants one, better grab it soon. I'll offer the ones I have to the gang first. $45.00 reg. price, anyone on the newsgroup $30.00 (includes book rate post USA) Contact me off list if anyone is interested : bstett3770@aol.com Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:41:57 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: lemen@wireweb.net Subject: Re: JN4 Left engine mounts Message-ID: Got the photos. Great. Did you notice the indent in the center of the fuel tank. That shows on this particular aircraft the tank has an indent which will receive the end of the engine water pump that had me worried. However, for the Jenny I moved the fuel tank back according to the location on factory plans so the indent is not really necessary. The Canuck photos you sent has the engine and fuel tank with no down thrust, while my Jenny has downthrust. More interesting stuff. Thanks a million. Sent a copy of this to the list for general info. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:50:07 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: lemen@wireweb.net Subject: Jenny gas tank indent Message-ID: A clarification. After studying the photos, the indent I was talking about is not in the center of the gas tank. Rather I believe the indent is just in the metal firewall in front of the tank. The tank is located far enough back that the indent would not be required there. I missed this at first because on my Jenny model design I eliminated the firewass so you can see the fuel tank better. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:49:19 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Images, was Re: Wire wheels...was Flashback Berg D.I Message-ID: <19990803.195305.-24871.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:31:13 -0400 (EDT) "Lance Krieg" writes: > Thank you, Matt. My pleasure! > Trust you to prefer a French machine, even a Macchi version. But of course! > I've got a SPAD, too, that I need to photograph, and believe it or > not, a trio of 1/72 planes that include a Nieuport 17 in actual > French colors! Too small to be of much interest, of course, and > completed before I saw the light and moved to the manly scale. Most of us true men would consider that you wimped out. ;-) However, I still can't wait to see a proper scale Nie.17 as done by you! > If I ever get my workbench back together, my next effort will be a > SPAD A.2. Anybody got any cockpit shots? Wasn't there a mini-datafile on the type? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Tom-M's 1/72nd scale Vickers FB-5 Message-ID: Just received the 1/72nd scale Vickers FB-5 by Tom-M. The resin parts are supplemented by several brass rods, presumably for the tail-boom parts although I think I might use plastic rod; hardly an expensive extra. The resin molding does not appear to contain any dimples, although it has a few small flaws that look like they'll come out with a little light sanding. I cannot speak to the dimensions since I don't have the Datafile, similarly, I cannot tell whether it fits until I build it. It looks pretty clean. The only interior is a couple of seats so some detail addition may be in order. The gun looks really nicely detailed and the engine doesn't look too bad but I cannot find out which engine it's supposed to be. If I knew, I could look at the engine pictures in my Jane's and see if it's accurate. The decals look clear and crisp; 4 large roundels for the wings, 4 small roundels for the fuselage and 4 "2341" for the tail fin. Actually there are 2 small identical sheets of decals (2 large roundels, 2 small roundels and 2 sets of serial numbers on each) so there are 2 extra serials and 2 small roundels. The instruction sheet's in Czech (at least I assume it's Czech, what else could it be?) but the diagrams are pretty understandable - Datafile will help a lot. Looks like a first rate kit Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 20:43:44 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Message-ID: <37A79AD0.139F@bellsouth.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > I will remember to show more details for the next one. :-) Oh? You got yerself a camera attachment for a microscope? bwahahahahahaha! E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:40:31 -0700 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Monogram / Aurora D VII Message-ID: <19990803.184111.-325807.3.r_niles1@juno.com> Hi guys and gals I'm starting something new. What do you suppose it would take to get Monogram to release the D VII again? If I remember rightly, they released it and the Camel and the SE5 several years ago, so we know that there is nothing wrong with those molds. Any one had any luck e-mailing Revell/Monogram? Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:18:54 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII Message-ID: In a message dated 99-08-03 21:47:32 EDT, you write: << Hi guys and gals I'm starting something new. What do you suppose it would take to get Monogram to release the D VII again? If I remember rightly, they released it and the Camel and the SE5 several years ago, so we know that there is nothing wrong with those molds. >> they are available all over the place that I am aware of. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 21:47:59 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII Message-ID: <37A7A9DF.28E8@bellsouth.net> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > they are available all over the place that I am aware of. I haven't seen the Camel or Se around, but I'm pretty sure the local shop has a few D-VII's on the shelf. Not a bad model either. If yer really looking for one Russ, why not contact Jeff at Hub Hobby here in N.O. hubhobnola@aol.com Tell em I sent you. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 21:53:32 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Flight Weekly Message-ID: <37A7C74B.1AF227AD@airmail.net> I had an interesting day. I got to peruse a bound set of Flight Weeklys from 1909 thru about 1920 or so. It had some incredibly interesting, and clear pictures. Two and three view plans, and detail drawings. I don't know how much a set of these are worth, but I am going to start keeping my eyes peeled for them. I found some info on the Burgess Dunne flying wing-biplane-flying boat as a well as a monoplane with the same wing design. If anyone is aware of something in these magazines they need copies of let me know off list. I'll try to get copies for you. Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:23:20 -0500 From: "Eli Geher" To: Subject: You never know what you'll find Message-ID: <000601bede28$cb6059e0$856086d0@eligeher> I spend a couple of days a week as a volunteer at the U.S. Space and Rocket, trying to catalog their collection of documents and memorabilia. Its not exactly a hotbed of WWI activity, but some items showed up today. For reasons not clear, we received some items from the estate of an engineer who started his career with Junkers in WWI and retired eventually from Wright-Patterson AFB. He kept a photo album as a sort of professional record. The opening photo is a portrait of Dr. Hugo Junkers and there are a few pictures of early designs and motors. They appear to be prints of factory photos rather then personal snapshots. I'll get around to identifying them one of these days. The donation also included a copy of a book called "The First War Planes" by William E. Barrett, published in 1960. Lots of good photos reproduced in mediocre quality. The museum will probably not keep these items and I hope to be standing in the right place when they are disposed of. Eli ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:22:38 -0400 From: "Millen, Alan R." To: "'WW1 List'" Subject: Travel Message-ID: I know a number of you listees are citizens of Australia, so here's a question for you. My wife and I are planning a trip "down under" at the end of the year. We are trying to determine which area of Aussie we want to visit. The airfare and lodging are paid for, but no travel in country, so where we land is where we stay. On that note, what would you recommend as sight-seeing material in your part of the country? Events in the last week of December? We want to make the itinerary up very soon, so we need to make up our minds. Thanks in advance! Alan R. Millen Phone 610.676.1194 Fax 610.676.3194 E-mail amllen@seic.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:53:14 -0500 From: Edward Swaim To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: French mud, was WWI figures Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990804035314.006aecd8@aristotle.net> > A question: What kind of brown do you use when painting "trench mud"? If I ever visit >northern France, I'll take a shovel and steal some dirt for modeling purposes. (Beware the dogs who sniff your luggage for "agricultural products" when you get off the plane.) I was there in April at Verdun and in the Argonne. I had planned to wet dirt from various sights and dab it on note cards to bring home as samples, but I forgot. The ground ranged from very light brown to whitish. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:58:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Travel Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD47596C@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Alan, > I know a number of you listees are citizens of Australia, so here's a > question for you. Okay, I'm an Aussie, so here goes: > My wife and I are planning a trip "down under" at the end of > the year. We > are trying to determine which area of Aussie we want to > visit. The airfare and lodging are paid for, but no travel > in country, so where we land is > where we stay. As a Queenslander, and Brisbane resident, this is going to hurt me :-( Assuming you're coming West over the Pacific, the great majority of flights terminate in Sydney. If you're unable to travel great distances (and *everywhere* is a long way here) that pretty well restricts you to Sydney and environs. Mmmm, the only thing *special* happening in Sydney the last week of this year is the start of the Sydney-Hobart Yacht Race, and Australian institution, and one of the most spectacular sporting sights. It's probably THE day of the year to see Sydney Harbour at its most beautifull. I expect there will be something happening on December 31 too !! Loads of fireworks etc. Aside from that it'll be the usual Sydney tourist stuff. Lorna or the *other* Shane are better placed to give you that info. As a *non* Sydneysider, I admit that the view of the Coathanger and Opera House from on the water at night is pretty fine. > > On that note, what would you recommend as sight-seeing > material in your part of the country? Events in the last > week of December? OTOH, a few flights terminate in Brisbane, and still fewer in Melbourne. If you want "natural beauty" and don't mind humidity, Brisbane/Gold Coast/Sunshine Coast and hinterland is a good option. Beaches, islands, rainforest, that sort of stuff. On topic, Brisbane has an A7V tank, almost OT, we have Kingsford Smiths "Southern Cross", Hinklers Avro Avian etc. If you want "culture" and can get a flight in, Melbourne claims to be the prime place. It will be hot as hell, but humidity is low. RAAF Museum is nearby and quite good, though OT content depends on what is on loan from the AWM collection All three major cities can provide good access to native fauna via zoos, nature parks etc. > We want to make the itinerary up very soon, so we need to > make up our minds. Good wishes. And if Brisbane sounds your thing, I'll add much more off line Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:08:10 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: while the paint's drying... Message-ID: <37A7BCAA.659B@bellsouth.net> Hi All, I'm just sitting here killing a little time and thought I'd pass along this link; http://www.aeroplanebooks.com/index.html I bought about 5 or 6 Datafiles from these folks in Orlando, and they had a good selection of books (including a copy of the Apostolo/Begnozzi profiles book), as well as the best prices for DF's that I saw at the whole convention. Their website list every DF still in print and they're priced at 15.95 US, if anybody's been looking for a US supplier. Bill and Barbra Byrd are the folks who run this and they were very nice people. Just passing it on... E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:29:31 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: BM sale Message-ID: <37A7C1AB.3CD@bellsouth.net> Me again... Just had a look at the Pegasus site. Mr. Gannon has the Biff and the Walfisch on sale this month. $26.00 U.S. or thereabouts. So when was Edweird coming out with their Roland again? E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:49:35 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Info on the Berg D.I Message-ID: While going through my stack of Air Enthusiast Quarterlies, looking for something else, I found a very good article on the Berg D.I by Peter Grosz in AE.21 (the one with the Snowbirds over Mt. Ranier on the cover). Also has a picture of Linke-Crawford's airplane, which would be helpful to anyone doing the kit. From that pic, the way the light is on the wing, the ribs are not as prominent as on the kit, but don't sand it to look like the BM Camel's wing. You can see "hills and valleys." HTH Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:01:59 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BM sale Message-ID: In a message dated 99-08-04 00:32:34 EDT, you write: << So when was Edweird coming out with their Roland again? >> This fall, close to the same time as the Flashback Taube. IMHO, having seen the BM and knowing what Eduard can do, my vote is Eduard. The BM is one of his worst ever. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:03:05 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BM sale Message-ID: <37A7E5A8.A9C76065@airmail.net> E. wrote > Just had a look at the Pegasus site. Mr. Gannon has the Biff and the > Walfisch on sale this month. $26.00 U.S. or thereabouts. Hmmm, my converter came up with $32.60. It's still not too bad considering that includes shipping. It's kinda late but... Did Aeroclub make a kit of the Brisfit too? Which is preferred? Brent -- ************************************* They’ve got us surrounded, the poor bastards! ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:32:23 -0700 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BM sale Message-ID: <37A87927.22B9@ricochet.net> Brent & Tina Theobald wrote: > > It's kinda late but... Did Aeroclub make a kit of the Brisfit too? Yes. Nice kit. >Which is preferred? Depends on who you ask. The Aeroclub kit is a bit less expensive, lacks the infamous BM wing ripple and (I've heard) is easier to build. It has gobs of lovely metal bits incl. all struts, undercarriage, guns, exhaust, etc. The BM kit offers a choice of at least two different engines...others who own it can offer more details. My vote goes to Aeroclub, if only to support the more reasonably priced top-quality kits. FWIW, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:53:30 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Monogram / Aurora D VII Message-ID: <19990804055341.2119.qmail@hotmail.com> Eduard have the Camel and SE shot listed, Blue Max do both but I have kids to feed. The Dragon/DML D7 would be nice to see again, anyone have any inside dope? The Monogram D7 is quite a daunting project if you really want to get it right. My effort is halfway down the "Rigging Notes" page on my http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com The two biggest problems, in no particular order, are: a)Correcting the scale, which is 1/44. b) Introducing the tapered wing thickess. I still find the occasional ball of millput in the odd body cavity ;¬) Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 06:59:58 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Flight Weekly Message-ID: <00f301bede3e$da614920$095c08c3@default> Brent, Don't let Tina know you are looking for bound Flights! Over here they go for about £70 for a six month volume and £100plus for a years volume. I must agree though, they are very, very interesting. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 3:58 AM Subject: Flight Weekly > I had an interesting day. I got to peruse a bound set of Flight Weeklys > from 1909 thru about 1920 or so. It had some incredibly interesting, and > clear pictures. Two and three view plans, and detail drawings. I don't > know how much a set of these are worth, but I am going to start keeping > my eyes peeled for them. > > I found some info on the Burgess Dunne flying wing-biplane-flying boat > as a well as a monoplane with the same wing design. > > If anyone is aware of something in these magazines they need copies of > let me know off list. I'll try to get copies for you. > > Brent > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:05:09 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BM sale Message-ID: <19990804060510.60413.qmail@hotmail.com> Brent, I have the Aeroclub version myself and there is not much wrong with it, but I concede that the BM version is generaly more rifined and has more options. It's a toss up. Peter L http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 02:49:57 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BM sale Message-ID: <89c08ef9.24d93c95@aol.com> In a message dated 99-08-04 01:07:58 EDT, you write: << Did Aeroclub make a kit of the Brisfit too? Which is preferred? >> Unless you want to make a Biff with that godawful Eagle engine, which the BM will do, I would recommend the Aeroclub kit, having built both, on the basis of quality of production, not to mention it has decals for far more interesting airplanes than the obscure items (not even combat units!) in the BM kit. Also much better white metal parts. Same price, better quality, no "wing ripples," etc. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:54:44 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: French mud, was WWI figures Message-ID: <002701bedd96$37059c20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Swaim > I was there in April at Verdun and in the Argonne. I had > planned to wet dirt from various sights and dab it on note cards to bring > home as samples, but I forgot. The ground ranged from very light brown to > whitish. > So I wasn't wrong when I painted the soil in a greyish/light brown colour? D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:07:12 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Travel Message-ID: <199908040503403@cameron.prontomail.com> >My wife and I are planning a trip "down under" at the end of the >year. We are trying to determine which area of Aussie we want >to visit. I'll bite too, like Shane said most flights terminate in Sydney, so no matter where you go in Au you will most likely get a look at Sydney first. Apart from the Harbour Bridge, Opera House and the Harbour, there is more stuff out west that is worth a look at, for instance the Jenolan Caves, the Three Sisters. The blue mountains region is absolutely beautiful and well worth a look. When my wife and I were in Au in 97/98 we started in Sydney and stayed through New Years Eve, then traveled south by train ( I think it was about 120$ each ) to Melbourne. Melbourne is another must see city in Au, it has trams and a pretty nice outdoor cafe culture. Travelling by train also gives you views of the countryside and lots of kangaroo's, emus, Cockatoo's, galahs, and the occasional wombat. My wife thought that the best part. Between Melbourne and Sydney is Canberra. It is a good stop but can be seen in it's entirety in 2 days including the Australian War Memorial. We saw the three cities over two weeks and my wife got to do and have a look at a fair bit. Next we will probably go through the north and centre. But after 22 hours in a plane seat, another 5 hour flight is last on the list. An Au search engine is at : www.webwombat.com.au It only archives sites with the extension au or nz. It will prob have plenty of tourist type info. If you want more info feel free to mail me and Ill try to help you where I can. I have been south and west but have never broken the northern border, and gone into Queensland! :) cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1751 **********************