WWI Digest 1749 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: August Internet Modeler by Matthew E Bittner 2) RE: August Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 3) Re: August Internet Modeler by "Lee J Mensinger" 4) re: RE: August Internet Modeler by "Kitsch design <\"Kitsch design\"" 5) RE: RE: August Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 6) ASCCI Airplane Site by Brent & Tina Theobald 7) RE: August Internet Modeler by "cameron rile" 8) Re: August Internet Modeler by Matthew E Bittner 9) Re: August Internet Modeler by "Eli Geher" 10) RE: August Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 11) Newbie Questions by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 12) Re: Newbie Questions by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) Pfalz Cockpit Details by "WALTER H. APPEL" 14) Aviatik Berg D.I by "Robert Woodbury" 15) Re: Aviatik Berg D.I by "K. Hagerup" 16) RE: Aviatik Berg D.I by "Robert Woodbury" 17) Re: Newbie Questions by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 18) Re: ASCI Airplane Site by Mike Fletcher 19) RE: Newbie Questions by "John Glaser" 20) RE: Newbie Questions by "PETER LEONARD" 21) RE: Newbie Questions by "dfernet0" 22) Re: Newbie Questions by mkendix ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:42:15 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <19990801.144242.-189895.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:40:45 -0400 (EDT) "richard eaton" writes: > Nice to see Matt finish a kit too! :-) Great job. :-P Thanks! :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:12:35 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475948@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Richard > Nice to see Matt finish a kit too! :-) Great job. Well I just get a 404 File Not Found error from Simplenet. I *thought* it'd have to be a hoax. Matt started that kit about 3 years ago when I did mine, and no way he'd be finished this quickly ;-) Shane Bob, Error 404 wherever I go and however I navigate to it. And yes, I have reloaded, and deleted cache etc. All I seem able to get is the cover and index page ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 16:35:21 -0500 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, sdw@qld.mim.com.au Subject: Re: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <37A4BD99.BFEEF099@wireweb.net> I copied the URL that I used, earlier today and I got it just fine with no argument. Of course I am 14,000 miles closer than you are. Might have a bit to do with things that happen. Lee http://www.internetmodeler.com Shane Weier wrote: > Richard > > > Nice to see Matt finish a kit too! :-) Great job. > > Well I just get a 404 File Not Found error from Simplenet. I *thought* > it'd have to be a hoax. Matt started that kit about 3 years ago when I did > mine, and no way he'd be finished this quickly ;-) > > Shane > > Bob, > > Error 404 wherever I go and however I navigate to it. And yes, I have > reloaded, and deleted cache etc. All I seem able to get is the cover and > index page > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 99 07:35:47 +1000 From: "Kitsch design <\"Kitsch design\"" To: "WW1 Mailing List" Subject: re: RE: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <199908012234.IAA04206@mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au> Try this: http://www.internetmodeler.com/aug99/contents.htm HTH Andrew Ronayne Australia Andrew Ronayne Kitsch design NSW Australia Download Neoplanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:46:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: RE: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD47594A@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Andrew, > Try this: > > http://www.internetmodeler.com/aug99/contents.htm > > HTH > That's where I get to, but no further. And I've killed the cache, restarted the browser and rebooted the frigging PC. In several different orders. Ah, sod it. I'm supposed to be working anyway. Maybe Bills Bloody Browser will work for me at lunch time Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 16:59:55 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: ASCCI Airplane Site Message-ID: <37A4DF7A.62A4B940@airmail.net> Here is what we all need to add to our e-mails. http://www.aviation.ru/articles/ascii.html / \ \ \ \ \ / \ <===> \ < )> <===> / \ / / / / / \ / *************************************** They’ve got us surrounded, the poor bastards! *************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:23:25 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <199908011519580@cameron.prontomail.com> Shane, >That's where I get to, but no further. And I've killed the >cache, restarted the browser and rebooted the frigging PC. >In several different orders I was getting the site no problems earlier today, a 404 error is more likely to be Simplenets fault since those particular pages were displaying no worries before. They will probably get a server up and running again and instead of Simplenets advertising the IM pages will appear again. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:22:29 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <19990801.172322.-170535.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Shane Weier writes: > Well I just get a 404 File Not Found error from Simplenet. I > *thought* > it'd have to be a hoax. Matt started that kit about 3 years ago when > I did > mine, and no way he'd be finished this quickly ;-) Gee thanks. Nieuport 16 this isn't! :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:53:17 -0500 From: "Eli Geher" To: Subject: Re: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <00a101bedc70$eafdc4e0$316086d0@eligeher> I'm getting the same errors as Shane, and I'm a lot closer. Although Alabama does get things later then most of the other states. Sometimes by as much as a century. I would suspect in this case that theres a problem on the host server. It might be something as simple as being left unattended for the weekend. Eli -----Original Message----- From: Lee J Mensinger > I copied the URL that I used, earlier today and I got it just fine with no >argument. Of course I am 14,000 miles closer than you are. Might have a bit >to do with things that happen. Lee > >http://www.internetmodeler.com > > >Shane Weier wrote: > >> Richard >> >> > Nice to see Matt finish a kit too! :-) Great job. >> >> Well I just get a 404 File Not Found error from Simplenet. I *thought* >> it'd have to be a hoax. Matt started that kit about 3 years ago when I did >> mine, and no way he'd be finished this quickly ;-) >> >> Shane >> >> Bob, >> >> Error 404 wherever I go and however I navigate to it. And yes, I have >> reloaded, and deleted cache etc. All I seem able to get is the cover and >> index page >> ************************************************************** >> The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >> and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >> If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >> or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >> requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >> to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. >> E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >> ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:51:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD47594C@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Eli, Lee > I'm getting the same errors as Shane, and I'm a lot closer. > Although Alabama does get things later then most of the other > states. Sometimes by as much as a century. > > I would suspect in this case that theres a problem on the host > server. It might be something as simple as being left unattended > for the weekend. Thanks for the assistance. I've just come back from haranguing my firewall/proxy bloke who used an dialin account on a different ISP to get exactly the same result. Probably a problem of some sort at IM, says he. And the people who *can* still get stuff might be getting cached pages looked at earlier and cached by them or their ISP. Probably...says he. Just like WW1 colours this internet stuff. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:17:31 EDT From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Newbie Questions Message-ID: Well, you convinced me John, so here I am a brand new member with a pair of questions for the group. The April 1999 issue of Military in Scale mentioned that Esci will be re-releasing four of their kits, the Sopwith Camel, Fokker DVII, Spad XIII, and the Nieuport 17. Does anyone have any information about release dates and availability? I really do not want to spend ebay prices for something that I can get brand new, especially when you consider the shipping charges. Also, has anyone dealt with VAMPS, and would care to comment? The prices on certain items seems to be a fraction of what I have seen them advertised at here in the States. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:59:23 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Newbie Questions Message-ID: <12c309a0.24d6476b@aol.com> In a message dated 99-08-01 20:18:48 EDT, you write: << Also, has anyone dealt with VAMPS, and would care to comment? The prices on certain items seems to be a fraction of what I have seen them advertised at here in the States. Thanks. >> Lubos Vinar, who runs VAMP, is a member of the list and an honorable, stand-up businessman. Deal with him knowing all is OK. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 21:17:50 -0500 From: "WALTER H. APPEL" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Pfalz Cockpit Details Message-ID: <37A4FFCE.13CB@erols.com> Tom That would be a big help. Pfalz was always my favorite German aircraft for some reason. Seeing the DXII on the market gives me something to look forward to down the road. I picked up an Eduard DIII out of a sale bin, at a toy store no less, and plan on making that my first detailed kit, after my Nieuports and one or two Glencoes just to get my hand back in. Whoops, I'm talking again. Thanks Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:41:30 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <000401bedc88$25037880$91107482@per.clw.csiro.au> Greetings All, Well, the Aviatik is progressing slowly- the fuselage halves are now together, after trimming about 1mm from the edge of the photoetched parts (0.5 mm from each side) there were no further problems. Next job is cleaning up the join lines and drilling locating holes and rigging holes, then I can think about painting. I've decided the best way to handle the ugly orange on the hex is to simply repaint it. I'll photocopy the hex, cut out the offending orange parts and use this as a mask to airbrush directly on to the decal. But what colour?? The ochre colour suggested in the datafile would seem to be the most appropriate. As for Franks markings. A little time on Corel draw and I should be able to knock up a new set - in black! Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 20:48:11 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <37A4F8DB.235A@prodigy.net> Robert Woodbury wrote: > I've decided the best way to handle the ugly orange on the hex is to simply > repaint it. I'll photocopy the hex, cut out the offending orange parts and > use this as a mask to airbrush directly on to the decal. It might be easier to cut out the offending color from the decal and undercoat the kit with the appropriate color. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:59:03 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <000601bedc8a$984e04c0$91107482@per.clw.csiro.au> Possibly- but I'd be very wary of applying the decals over any dark red orange or ochre colour, it would very likely affect the colour of the lighter coloured hex's. Rob > Robert Woodbury wrote: > > > I've decided the best way to handle the ugly orange on the hex > is to simply > > repaint it. I'll photocopy the hex, cut out the offending > orange parts and > > use this as a mask to airbrush directly on to the decal. > > It might be easier to cut out the offending color from the decal and > undercoat the kit with the appropriate color. > > Ken > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:29:29 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Newbie Questions Message-ID: >Also, has anyone dealt with VAMPS, and would care to >comment? The prices on certain items seems to be a fraction of what I have >seen them advertised at here in the States. > Thanks. I've ordered from Lubos twice and have been happy with the service and prices. You will wait a bit for your order to arrive, but if you're like most of the listmembers here, you have plenty of models to build in the mean time! Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 23:35:21 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ASCI Airplane Site Message-ID: <37A53C29.1BCF1C9F@mars.ark.com> how about trying for an On-Topic type? what is that anyway - a B-2 with rudders? -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 05:08:18 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Newbie Questions Message-ID: <000801bedcce$f23a3ff0$ce026b83@usalbhlslt026> Shawn: Welcome to you, our newest member! - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Sixmilfigs@cs.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 7:17 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Newbie Questions Well, you convinced me John, so here I am a brand new member with a pair of questions for the group. The April 1999 issue of Military in Scale mentioned that Esci will be re-releasing four of their kits, the Sopwith Camel, Fokker DVII, Spad XIII, and the Nieuport 17. Does anyone have any information about release dates and availability? I really do not want to spend ebay prices for something that I can get brand new, especially when you consider the shipping charges. Also, has anyone dealt with VAMPS, and would care to comment? The prices on certain items seems to be a fraction of what I have seen them advertised at here in the States. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 04:05:08 PDT From: "PETER LEONARD" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Newbie Questions Message-ID: <19990802110510.24989.qmail@hotmail.com> You're not the newest member anymore, I claim that title as of half an hour ago. On my side of the big pond Hannants list the kits you mention as for release "1999". Narrows it down a bit, "this millenium". I wonder whatever happened to the Albatros. It and the Nieuport were the worst of the range but workable, and the rest were pretty good. I think I might even prefer the D7 over Revell's. Isn't the Accademy SPAD the same kit as the Esci? Or am I hopelessly out of touch? vbr Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:38:14 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Newbie Questions Message-ID: <00e201bedc12$57a1dbe0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Peter, Welcome to the list AFAIK, the Spad Academy kit is the same molding of the Esci. The good thing about the Esci kits were that they were done in a very soft plastic, much softer than the Academy material, so it was very easy to modify. I'm building right now an Albatros DIII converted to a DII, and next to this I'll grab another DIII fuselage to do it as a DI. If you want an accurate Albatros "D" you can't use any other part, and the fuselage should be heavily corrected. A modest advice: correcting the Albatros is too darn job. I did it just because that was a good "testing ground" for a lot of things like hacking, sanding, filling, etc. looks like we list members are quite sadic with our kits. But if you want a nice model wit not too much work, you can get the Pegasus (although I find it a bit expensive and difficult to assemble) or wait for some months for the new releases of some manufacturers that I hope will be better. Regards D. ----- Original Message ----- From: PETER LEONARD To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 8:07 AM Subject: RE: Newbie Questions > You're not the newest member anymore, I claim that title as of half an hour > ago. > On my side of the big pond Hannants list the kits you mention as for release > "1999". Narrows it down a bit, "this millenium". > I wonder whatever happened to the Albatros. It and the Nieuport were the > worst of the range but workable, and the rest were pretty good. I think I > might even prefer the D7 over Revell's. Isn't the Accademy SPAD the same > kit as the Esci? Or am I hopelessly out of touch? > > vbr > > Peter L > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:29:03 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Newbie Questions Message-ID: > >Also, has anyone dealt with VAMPS, and would care to > >comment? The prices on certain items seems to be a fraction of what I have > >seen them advertised at here in the States. > I have also dealt successfully with Lunos Vinar/VAMP models. Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1749 **********************