WWI Digest 1747 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) In Search of Another WW I Book From My Childhood by Fernando Lamas 2) Re: In Search of Another WW I Book From My Childhood by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Question/Film Noir/White Eagles by "WALTER H. APPEL" 4) Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles by Albatrosdv@aol.com 5) RE: IPMS Nats by Shane Weier 6) Re: IPMS Nats by Albatrosdv@aol.com 7) Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Diorama sugestion for CSM (or anyone!) by "d mather" 9) me almost am went by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: Internats in Telford by "Ian Bullock" 11) RE: me almost am went by Shane Weier 12) Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles by "Lee J Mensinger" 13) Re: Internats in Telford by Dennis Ugulano 14) Re: me almost am went by Ernest Thomas 15) New web sites by Matthew E Bittner 16) Film Noir by BEN8800@aol.com 17) Re: Film Noir by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Internats in Telford by "Ian Bullock" 19) Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles by bucky@ptdprolog.net 20) Re: Internats in Telford by "Len Smith" 21) On Topic, then veering like mad! by "Len Smith" 22) Re: Internats in Telford by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles by "Lee J Mensinger" 24) Re: Internats in Telford by Dave Wadman 25) Re: me almost am went by "Tom Werner Hansen" 26) RE: WWI figures by peter crow 27) RE: IPMS Nats by "Mark Shanks" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:30:47 -0700 From: Fernando Lamas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: In Search of Another WW I Book From My Childhood Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990730213047.00793ae0@olympus.net> I haven't found the 1964 Life magazine issue of WW I aviation yet. If I ever do, I'll let you know what issue it was. I am now searching for another book I remember from 1964 or 1965. It was a paperback book. It was given to me as a gift by someone in my family who knew I was interested in WW I aviation. It described WW I aircraft and had photos of them. I remember asking my uncle, who dabbled in photography, if he could make a print from one of the book's photos for me. The following eBay item has the "look and feel" of the book but it was published in 1968 and would not be the same book. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137916909 Does anybody know the name and author of the book I am trying to remember? Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:08:09 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In Search of Another WW I Book From My Childhood Message-ID: <8db51e5a.24d3deb9@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/99 9:30:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lamas@olympus.net writes: << I am now searching for another book I remember from 1964 or 1965. It was a paperback book. It was given to me as a gift by someone in my family who knew I was interested in WW I aviation. It described WW I aircraft and had photos of them. I remember asking my uncle, who dabbled in photography, if he could make a print from one of the book's photos for me. The following eBay item has the "look and feel" of the book but it was published in 1968 and would not be the same book. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137916909 Does anybody know the name and author of the book I am trying to remember? Fernando Lamas >> Maybe The First Warplanes by William Barret? A paperback crammed with photos, and a general text outline of the air war? around 1964 or so Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:09:53 -0500 From: "WALTER H. APPEL" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles Message-ID: <37A29331.3322@erols.com> I need some suggestions about airbrushes. I have never used one before and any information as to what to get and how to use them would be appreciated. The closest I got to one when I was a kid was the one you got from the Johnson Smith catalog that you had to actually blow through. All I managed to do was decorate my bedroom walls. Film Noir, I'm not sure of the spelling, is sometimes known as "black" cinema. It was a style of film based on "dark" stories, murder, that type of thing, and rarely was done in a daylight setting. A good modern example is the first Batman movie which was touted as film noir when it was released. I think that "Gaslight" was a good contemporary example, although I'm not 100% sure. Film Noir focused on the grey areas of the color spectrum in the black and white era hence the night-time and indoor settings that you usually see. Sorry for the off topic. Robert: I really enjoyed the "White Eagles" article in Chandelle. I have been trying to print it out but my four-year-old computer and cheesey printer just don't seem to be able to do it, cut off tails, missing LVG's etc. Is there a copy of this in print? Also, looking for cockpit details for the Pfalz DIII. Any help would be appreciated. TIA Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:26:51 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-31 01:16:43 EDT, Waltman writes: << need some suggestions about airbrushes. >> FWIW, I have been using a Paasche Model H for 28 years. The only original part is the main metal piece. They're rugged as hell and don't cost an arm and a leg. They are easy to use and self-teach with. The H now costs around $35.00 purchased at an artists supply store, and likely cheaper if you go net-shopping. I would also invest in a compressor. I was able to get a nice little quiet one for $120 on sale at an artists' supply shop over in West LA a few years ago when my old Thomas tank finally lunched its piston. I also suggest investing in a regulator on it - this one had a regulator. That way you can get the pressure right (I shoot at around 15-18 psi) and keep it that way. Otherwise there is a lot of fluctuation, which leaves a noticeable mark on the paint job. There are those who say getting a double-action brush is the way to go, but with the Paasche, you just disassemble it when you're through, dump it in a (clean) cat food can full of lacquer thinner, and the next time you're ready to paint it is bone-clean. Just my $2.00 worth (factoring in inflation) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:14:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: IPMS Nats Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475941@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Steve S notes: > For $19.00 or so, about the cost of an average kit anymore, you can > become a member of IPMS. That shouldn't stop anyone on the list from > actually joining. Whilst this is entirely true, it isn't really the point. Just to get my personal intention out of the way, I have been planning to rejoin IPMS USA in time for next years Nats so that when I visit I'll be able to enter a model in the contest - just to say I did so. In the great grand scheme of a trip which will cost me about $5000 another $20 is nothing. However.... (from an off list discussion, my words, to save typing) > As just one example, I know of IPMS members from clubs there who > travel across hundreds of miles to attend, carrying newcomers > to their clubs who are not yet members, and not yet committed > to modelling, as passengers in their cars. What do they tell > these people ? Join up or else? Cool your heels in the hotel > for two days at $100 a day? IPMS doesn't care about modellers > in general, just IPMS modellers? Stay home? > > I really think this is so short sighted as to be > unbelievable. At QMHE we have model railways, radio control > aircraft, ships, and cars, toy soldier collectors, wargamers, > and even dollhouse miniaturists. While 90% of the show is > what we call "Static Scale Modelling" (that is, *our* hobby) > the crossovers learn from us, and we from them. They draw > people who wouldn't have seen us at all, and give us greater > marketing and sponsorship clout. And - they are nice people > with similar hobbies, often buying their materials from the > same vendors. It's a win-win, we all get our show with > terrific opportunity to bring new people into the fold. > Every year my club gains new members, especially juniors > who could not attend if the show was "closed" By comparison (and I hope not to upset the other Shane) the Sydney show is called "The New South Wales Interclub" and restricted to members of the clubs only. If just a small percentage of the complaints are true, I feel sorry for the likes of Shane and Lorna trying to run an incestuous gathering where there is no possibility of picking up new members "off the street", the vendors sales are restricted to members and so on. My efforts to build contest entry numbers and woo sponsorship must be incredibly easy by comparison. One other thing. Most definitely in Australia, and (going by rms) also in the US, IPMS is seen as elitist and exclusive. I *know* this is not really so, and have tried hard to bring two different clubs I've attended into the fold, but excluding non-members for whatever reason will be construed by those with an axe to grind as "elitist" and we will hear about it endlessly and harmfully to IPMS. All IMHO, of course, and as a non IPMS member who only *might* be one, perhaps irrelevant Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:24:03 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: IPMS Nats Message-ID: The point is, the National Convention should be seen as an opportunity to bring new people into "organized" modeling. On principle, it should be open and inclusionary, not closed and exclusionary. This is *not* a discussion of what to do with a spare $20 bill. Although, as a Texan, it must be admitted one should never underestimate the ability of other Texans to shoot themselves in the foot, which is what the NCT is doing. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:36:05 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles Message-ID: <81b72f8c.24d3f355@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/99 10:16:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Waltman@erols.com writes: << Also, looking for cockpit details for the Pfalz DIII. Any help would be appreciated. TIA Walt >> Rats! I could help here, but I'm getting ready to un-sub temporarily till Aug12 for a bit of a vacation trip. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:56:42 PDT From: "d mather" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Diorama sugestion for CSM (or anyone!) Message-ID: <19990731065642.34661.qmail@hotmail.com> Yeah, I know this may sound a little odd, but as far as a diorama acessory that I'd like to see -- how 'bout a vacformed hanger/tent for the Flying Circus.. (and remember if not done in 1/48, it doesnt count! ;-) ) Anyway, it seems like a great backdrop for those constantly moving Jastas etc... and a piece of cake to do.. doug DML Dr.1, SS AEG C.IV _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 03:40:39 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: me almost am went Message-ID: Howdy all....tomorrow I'll be unsubbing till August12 for a little trans-Atlantic hop. Going to visit the in-laws and stare aimlessly into the Scandanavian skies. I'm going to bed now- it's 12:38 A.M. now as I write, and this time tomorrow night I should be somewhere out east over the wilds of Greenland. I'll give the ol' List one more check before we leave and I temporarily disunite from you bunch! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:54:03 +0100 From: "Ian Bullock" To: Subject: Re: Internats in Telford Message-ID: <01bedb3a$9eb990a0$5359cfc2@default> Hello WW1 Modeling List. I only just subscribed and already I have hundreds of emails from the list. Don't you people have jobs to go to or models to make? If anyone from the Colonies - alright, former Colonies - is interested in going to Telford this year, maybe I can help. I am not far from Telford - find a decent historical map of Britain and look for the Battle of Bosworth 1485. Takes an hour to get to Telford (45 minutes when no-one is looking). Ironically, I may miss the nationals this year as I'll probably be over there on your side of the pond on business. However, if I'm not then there's a possibility of accommodation but I can always help you find some. I only recently returned to modelling after a 20 or so year gap. WW1 is my subject. I am not the World's best modeller but I enjoy it. I have one immediate problem I hope someone can help me with. I make a lot of 1/72 aircraft and rig them usually by drilling through the struts first. It doesn't seem to matter how careful I am, the drill bits don't seem up to the job. The little buggers snap and fly around the room. I found the remains of one embedded in the ceiling. A Bristol F2B can take out 4 or 5 bits in one sortie. Who makes decent drill bits between 0.25mm and 0.35mm? Thanking you in anticipation, Ian Bullock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:16:36 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: me almost am went Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475942@mimhexch.mim.com.au> RK > I'll give > the ol' List one more check before we leave and I temporarily > disunite from you bunch! Well went already! Don't catch cold, or have a nasty reindeer accident on the freeway. As always, Dicta IRA applies! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:23:55 -0500 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Waltman@erols.com Subject: Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles Message-ID: <37A2EADB.D011F650@wireweb.net> Waltr I always recommend the Paasche Model H with the # 1 and #3 air tips and heads as the first Airbrush. Easy to clean very adjustable and easier to learn with than any of the double action brushes that are made. They are much less expensive as well. I am still using one I got in 1962. Good product from a great company that will bend over backwards to have a satisfied customer. Highly recommended. Lee "WALTER H. APPEL" wrote: > I need some suggestions about airbrushes. > > I have never used one before and any information as to what to get and > how to use them would be appreciated. > > The closest I got to one when I was a kid was the one you got from the > Johnson Smith catalog that you had to actually blow through. All I > managed to do was decorate my bedroom walls. > > Film Noir, I'm not sure of the spelling, is sometimes known as "black" > cinema. It was a style of film based on "dark" stories, murder, that > type of thing, and rarely was done in a daylight setting. A good > modern example is the first Batman movie which was touted as film noir > when it was released. I think that "Gaslight" was a good contemporary > example, although I'm not 100% sure. Film Noir focused on the grey > areas of the color spectrum in the black and white era hence the > night-time and indoor settings that you usually see. Sorry for the off > topic. > > Robert: I really enjoyed the "White Eagles" article in Chandelle. I > have been trying to print it out but my four-year-old computer and > cheesey printer just don't seem to be able to do it, cut off tails, > missing LVG's etc. Is there a copy of this in print? > > Also, looking for cockpit details for the Pfalz DIII. Any help would be > appreciated. > > TIA > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:35:33 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Internats in Telford Message-ID: <199907310835_MC2-7F31-5855@compuserve.com> Ian, Welcome to the group from the other side of the colonies (you're right, former colonies) in Calif. Glad to have you with us. You will find a great group of folks here and much helpful information. I know I did when I joined 6 months ago. >> I only recently returned to modelling after a 20 or so year gap. WW1 is my subject. I am not the World's best modeller but I enjoy it. << Then you will fit right in. We all enjoy our hobby and enjoy talking with others with a like interest. As you can see from the recent list of members, were are all over the world. >> 1/72 aircraft and rig them usually by drilling through the struts first. It doesn't seem to matter how careful I am, the drill bits don't seem up to the job. << Two things. First, you build in the correct scale. Oh, that's going to start a ruckus. Second, I also drill my struts and use a # 79 or # 80 drill bit. The 80 is very delicate and will last about 2 or 3 models. I went to the 79 and can get a lot of mileage out of that one. I don't know who manufactures them. I just go to my local hobby shop and buy what's on the shelf. Are you drilling by hand? For a drill bit to go flying into space indicates a power drill and that may be the problem. I use a hand chuck. start my hole with a straight pin and carefully drill through the part. Full details are on my web site under DURAS. Again, good to have you with us. Your first requirement will be to show us some of your work. Not only do we not have lives, we have an insatiable desire to see more and more photos of other modellers work. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 7/2/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:51:36 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: me almost am went Message-ID: <37A2F158.6095@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > Howdy all....tomorrow I'll be unsubbing till August12 for a little > trans-Atlantic hop. Have a gay old time! E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:51:19 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New web sites Message-ID: <19990731.075120.-132651.0.mbittner@juno.com> I just found these web sites: http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com/ http://www.storks.cwc.net/ They're both run by the same person. The first site is more toward the modeling end, while the second site concentrates on Guynemer. They're both well done. I have contacted the site author, and while he knows of "our" site, he hasn't figured out how to subscribe to the list yet. I just sent him detail instructions so he can cut and paste them into email. Hopefully we'll see him soon. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html nb: Still Fokker D.VII in Jacobs' markings nu: Gads...Too Many Models, Too Little Time... np: Thomas the Tank Engine (my four year old is awake) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:59:10 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Film Noir Message-ID: <5be094ef.24d44d1e@aol.com> Thanks for the info on Film Noir. Dark is what I expected. I think I will change my name to Ben Noir, then I will be dark and mysterious. ben ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:30:53 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Film Noir Message-ID: <37A2FA8D.19AE@bellsouth.net> BEN8800@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks for the info on Film Noir. Dark is what I expected. I think I will > change my name to Ben Noir, then I will be dark and mysterious. ooooh! spooky. (apologies to the guy who just complained about these posts.) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:23:03 +0100 From: "Ian Bullock" To: Subject: Re: Internats in Telford Message-ID: <01bedb60$33411840$6b59cfc2@default> Thanks for the 2 bits of advice so far. I do use a hand drill but I haven't been making a start hole with a pin. I'll give that a whirl and see what happens. I do try to be careful but 2 or 3 models to a drill bit is out of the question for me. I may take a photo of some of my stuff on sufficiently low quality JPEG so you can nearly see the sort of things I build. Having seen the photo's on the main list, mine don't compare. Most of mine aren't finished. Patience is not one of my virtues and I find it necessary to have several kits on the go at any one time. I'll build anything. Aircraft, Tanks, Figures and Ships. Ship actually - just started HMS Iron Duke. Scale is 1/72 mostly, I prefer it but I have several 1/48 kits, 1/35 (Tanks) and 1/12 (Figures). I also have a 1/12 etched brass Mk 1 Tank which I think is going to be a 10 year job looking at size of the bag with all the scale nuts and bolts in. Incidentally, I sell the 1/12 Figures if anyone is interested. Its the Firing Line range. I had this mad idea while I still had some money to set up a business getting the figures painted up and displayed and selling them to the shops, bars etc in the Somme area. Stuff that is on sale there is not high quality but the prices certainly are! I like to go to the Somme as often as possible. I find eating my lunch on a 15inch unexploded shell with a graze 100 fuze strangely relaxing. Trouble is, I couldn't find anyone who would paint the figures for me and I don't have the time. Ian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:31:01 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles Message-ID: <37A308A5.C892D65A@ptdprolog.net> I agree with Lee. I got a Paasche in the Fall and have been having fun with it since then. I sometimes find myself hurrying through models so that I can paint them. I love the look the airbrush gives the paint. I use the #3 air tip....not really sure if the #1 is for a finer coverage area or greater. I had also tried the Testors/Aztec. It was also pretty cheap, but the nozzle kept clogging and it was kind of hard to clean. Mike Muth PS I think there was/is a survey on airbrushes on the Home page for the WWI modeling list. Lee J Mensinger wrote: > Waltr I always recommend the Paasche Model H with the # 1 and #3 air tips > and heads as the first Airbrush. Easy to clean very adjustable and easier > to learn with than any of the double action brushes that are made. They are > much less expensive as well. I am still using one I got in 1962. Good > product from a great company that will bend over backwards to have a > satisfied customer. Highly recommended. Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:07:11 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Internats in Telford Message-ID: <003201bedb66$a520f420$025c08c3@default> Hi Ian Welcome to the list from another on this side of the pond, down in Greenwich. For drills phone Shesto Ltd. on 0181-451 6188 with your plastic money handy. They supply .03 to 6.0 in Metric and 80 to 50 in Imperial at 50p each (last price I have) plus VAT. As Dennis said if you are using a power drill.....DONT. They also do English Pattern Pin vices at £6.95 a set of 4 and Swivel Head Pin Vices at £3.80 each. Which F2b kit are you referring to, as a matter of interest? Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:07:26 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: On Topic, then veering like mad! Message-ID: <003301bedb66$a690b0c0$025c08c3@default> Greetings all. Someone was asking recently about the reprinted RFC Rigging Notes book. A review in the latest Windsock was for another book on the same subject, from Camden Miniature Steam Services !!!! This one features the F2B, DH5, MF11, Camel and Spad VII, rather less than the Arms & Armour one. They also do Air Board Technical Notes on engines, featuring RAF 1a, 120hp Beardmore, 80hp Gnome, 100hp Gnome Mono, 80 hp Le Rhone and 110hp Clerget, complete with drawings, photos and diagrams! Are you listening, Barry? And a book on building a quarter scale model of a Bentley BR2, including the 1925 MOD handbook on this engine. These are available from Lindsay Publications Inc in the States http://www.lindsaybks.com or from Camden Miniature Steam Services orders@camdenmin.demon.co.uk with visa, mastercard or switch. Now we veer!! Lindsays do there own catalogues but not the Camden one. Both firms seem slightly mad, but friendly. Camden in particular do OLD books, not old but modern reprints of old books. I made the mistake of browsing through their listing and finished up gobsmacked! If you are interested in any thing other than WW1 aircraft then they do a book for you. Railways, British, French,American and others, full size and models. Ships, sail and steam. Mines and Mining, everything from De Re Metallica by Agricola dated 1556, thankfully translated from the Latin. Engineering workshop practise by the ton. Tractors and road vehicles and carriages (horse drawn) how to build them. All in all a veritable gold mine of out of the ordinary books. Get their catalogue and wallow in nostalgia. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:30:10 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Internats in Telford Message-ID: <37A31681.3441@bellsouth.net> Ian Bullock wrote: > > Hello WW1 Modeling List. > > I only just subscribed and already I have hundreds of emails from the list. > Don't you people have jobs to go to or models to make? Hi Ian, Welcome to the List from the site of the final hostilities(afaik) between the colonists and H.M. troops. New Orleans LA. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:35:57 -0500 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, bucky@ptdprolog.net Subject: Re: Question/Film Noir/White Eagles Message-ID: <37A317DD.9C135686@wireweb.net> --------------D963644285056EDDCF331789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Passche "H" the #1 is the finest and the #3 Medium, and #5 for RC models and 1/48th B-52s', or people that just love to spray lots of paint. I use CO2 and have done so for 37 years. Anhydrous, therefor completely dry, no moisture trap needed and it is a pain but portable. Refills readily available at Fire Extingusher Companies and some welding suppliers. Have two gauges. One tank Pressure and one variable for Output. Always adjust output with gas flowing. Some adjustable devices break if you don't do it that way. When the tank pressure starts to drop you still have lots of time to refill. Once it drops from around 500 to about 250 pounds you are on your way out and soon. In case you need more info, like thinning paint, etc, just ask. Lee bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: > I agree with Lee. I got a Paasche in the Fall and have been having fun with > it since then. I sometimes find myself hurrying through models so that I can > paint them. I love the look the airbrush gives the paint. I use the #3 air > tip....not really sure if the #1 is for a finer coverage area or greater. I had > also tried the Testors/Aztec. It was also pretty cheap, but the nozzle kept > clogging and it was kind of hard to clean. > Mike Muth > PS I think there was/is a survey on airbrushes on the Home page for the WWI > modeling list. > > Lee J Mensinger wrote: > > > Waltr I always recommend the Paasche Model H with the # 1 and #3 air tips > > and heads as the first Airbrush. Easy to clean very adjustable and easier > > to learn with than any of the double action brushes that are made. They are > > much less expensive as well. I am still using one I got in 1962. Good > > product from a great company that will bend over backwards to have a > > satisfied customer. Highly recommended. Lee --------------D963644285056EDDCF331789 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Passche "H" the #1 is the finest and the #3 Medium, and #5 for RC models and 1/48th B-52s', or people that just love to spray lots of paint.   I use CO2 and have done so for 37 years.   Anhydrous, therefor completely dry, no moisture trap needed and it is a pain but portable.  Refills readily available at Fire Extingusher Companies and some welding suppliers.  Have two gauges. One tank Pressure and one variable for Output.  Always adjust output with gas flowing.  Some adjustable devices break if you don't do it that way.  When the tank pressure starts to drop you still have lots of time to refill.  Once it drops from around 500 to about 250 pounds you are on your way out and soon.  In case you need more info, like thinning paint, etc,  just ask.    Lee

bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote:

    I agree with Lee. I got a Paasche in the Fall and have been having fun with
it since then. I sometimes find myself hurrying through models so that I can
paint them. I love the look the airbrush gives the paint. I use the #3 air
tip....not really sure if the #1 is for a finer coverage area or greater. I had
also tried the Testors/Aztec. It was also pretty cheap, but the nozzle kept
clogging and it was kind of hard to clean.
Mike Muth
PS I think there was/is a survey on airbrushes on the Home page for the WWI
modeling list.

Lee J Mensinger wrote:

> Waltr I always recommend the Paasche Model H with the # 1 and #3 air tips
> and heads as the first Airbrush.  Easy to clean very adjustable and easier
> to learn with than any of the double action brushes that are made.  They are
> much less expensive as well.  I am still using one I got in 1962.  Good
> product from a great company that will bend over backwards to have a
> satisfied customer.  Highly recommended.  Lee

--------------D963644285056EDDCF331789-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:55:05 -0700 From: Dave Wadman To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Internats in Telford Message-ID: <37A32A69.771@nucleus.com> Ernest Thomas wrote: > > Ian Bullock wrote: > > > > Hello WW1 Modeling List. > > > > I only just subscribed and already I have hundreds of emails from the list. > > Don't you people have jobs to go to or models to make? Hello Ian, Welcome to the list from another Brit, now living in the Great White North. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:11:47 +0200 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: Re: me almost am went Message-ID: <199907311607.SAA01648@golf.dax.net> Robert If you get sick of staring aimlessly into a Swedish sky, you could always come across the border and stare into the Norwegian sky, they're hard to tell apart, except we have the sea beneath it. Tom W. Tom W Hansen Skippergaten 5 1630 GAMLE FREDRIKSTAD Norway +47 69 32 34 29 (give me a ring if you get a chance) ---------- > From: KarrArt@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: me almost am went > Date: 31. juli 1999 09:46 > > Howdy all....tomorrow I'll be unsubbing till August12 for a little > trans-Atlantic hop. Going to visit the in-laws and stare aimlessly into the > Scandanavian skies. > I'm going to bed now- it's 12:38 A.M. now as I write, and this time tomorrow > night I should be somewhere out east over the wilds of Greenland. I'll give > the ol' List one more check before we leave and I temporarily disunite from > you bunch! > Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: WWI figures Message-ID: <19990731165002.14172.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> --- dfernet0 wrote: > Peter > I have a Warriors trench raider in a pose slightly > similar. Maybe this is a > modified kit of the same one. I really like the > sculpting of the wrinkles of > the pant and sleeves, and the painting is superb, > too. I'll have to find their site and take a look.. I'm thinking of getting the "John Arlow" figure from the Australian site.. Its a great pose, plus I like the historical background of the piece.. > A question: What kind of brown do you use when > painting "trench mud"? I > usually make it a greyish tone, but I might be > affected by the B&W movies of > that era. If I ever visit northern France, I'll take > a shovel and steal some > dirt for modeling purposes. Send some of it here.. The way my place looks, it would blend right in..;-) I haven't been real happy with any of my earth/mud paint jobs, so I'm not a good one to ask.. I'm usually trying something different on each piece.. I know they're some other list members who do figures, and I like what they've done.. maybe some input from one them?? P. Crow nb..finishing up a couple of Toko W29s _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:49:54 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: IPMS Nats Message-ID: <199907311645.JAA22523@elvis.fltdyn.com> Shane Weir writes: > One other thing. Most definitely in Australia, and (going by rms) also in > the US, IPMS is seen as elitist and exclusive. I *know* this is not really > so, and have tried hard to bring two different clubs I've attended into the > fold, but excluding non-members for whatever reason will be construed by > those with an axe to grind as "elitist" and we will hear about it endlessly > and harmfully to IPMS. I joined the IPMS back in '67 (#3315) - we in the US used to get the UK monthly magazine and a US-produced Quarterly. Back in those halcyon days, IPMS was the only thing going, and laid a lot of groundwork to get the hobby to where it is now. There simply wasn't any other regular, reliable, and diverse source of info on kits, markings, construction, detailing, etc. until some of the better magazines (a la Airfix) appeared. Then there was the US treasurer scandal, the US organization took a hit, and I dropped out (all about the same time girls appeared on my radar screen). Now, IMNSHO, the contemporary US branch at least is stuffed to the gills with some of the most insufferable people I have ever come across. Self-appointed experts abound - the armchair aviators and panzer leaders who seem to swarm to contests the way ants swarm on a picnic. Cliquishness is ubiquitous, too. My take on the current situation is that the original IPMS did it's job very well, but the current manifestation is just unpalatable. I know there are a lot of good people in the IPMS, but other than forming a basis for local groups, the raison d'etre of the organization seems to have shifted from raising the consciousness of hobbyists as to the potential of their little hobby to providing a platform for obnoxious neurotics to browbeat and denigrate "outsiders" and "newbies". I'm a member of the local Portland chapter, but National can kiss my a.... Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1747 **********************