WWI Digest 1737 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I by Shane Weier 2) Exchange Rates by Matthew E Bittner 3) Re: Modelers vs Historians by Tom Solinski 4) Exo Kit by Matthew E Bittner 5) RE: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... by Shane Weier 6) Re: Nats 2001, was Re: Judging by "DAVID BURKE" 7) Re: Where are you? Was RE: Judging by "DAVID BURKE" 8) Re: Was - Re: Where are you (from)? by "DAVID BURKE" 9) My tiny share of the glory by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: Nats update by "DAVID BURKE" 11) Re: I'm BACK!!!! by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: Rudder Stripers Anonymous -- The Pledge by mkendix 13) Re: Modelers vs Historians by roguerpj 14) Re: Nats update by "Bob Pearson" 15) Re: I'm BACK!!!! by "DAVID BURKE" 16) Re: Judging by "DAVID BURKE" 17) Re: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... by "DAVID BURKE" 18) Re: Exchange Rates by "Mike" 19) Re: Nats update by Albatrosdv@aol.com 20) Re: Dolphin by Albatrosdv@aol.com 21) Re: Exchange Rates by "K. Hagerup" 22) Re: Where are you? Was RE: Judging by Albatrosdv@aol.com 23) Re: Nats 2001, was Re: Judging by Albatrosdv@aol.com 24) Re: Modelers vs Historians by Albatrosdv@aol.com 25) Which 1964 LIFE issue commemorated WW I Aviation? by Fernando Lamas 26) Re: Nats update by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Re: I'm Back by "DAVID BURKE" 28) Re: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... by "DAVID BURKE" 29) Re: Exchange Rates by Modelhound@aol.com 30) Re: Modelers vs Historians by roguerpj 31) RE: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:47:31 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Flashback Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475905@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom, > << > I'll build mine too. Not as Frank Linke-Crawfords bus though, I fancy > "Mimmi" since I have a set of A/G decals and a profile by > some weird hairy > legged guy >> > > This isn't the same "Mimmi" guy who flew around in a D.VII in > Germany, was he? Err, nope. Typo I fear. It should (and would if I re-read before hitting send) read "Mizzi". Flown by Josef Kunz. > (totally unafraid to display ignorance here) Shane (already displayed ignorance :-( ) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:54:52 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Exchange Rates Message-ID: <19990727.175453.-67273.0.mbittner@juno.com> I remember in the past someone posted a URL for a site that does exchange rates. Could someone repost, please? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:56:40 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modelers vs Historians Message-ID: <379E3928.E8B7E0C0@ionet.net> > > What about the Blue Max., and Great Waldo Pepper, and and ZEPPELIN?? > > Oooh! Oooh! Say, you can intern ME in Switzerland for the rest of > the war with Elke Sommer!! (OR Ursula, for that matter!!) Take ME! > Take ME!! > > Rrrrroowwwrrrrrr!! > > Oh, yeah, there WERE airplanes in those movies, weren't there? ;-) Yea, and one or two of them were triplanes in lozenge camouflage!!!! See Previous string. At least it's OT Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:58:56 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Exo Kit Message-ID: <19990727.175857.-67309.0.mbittner@juno.com> Has anyone ordered from Exo Kit? If so, can you give me some pointers? They have a lot of on-topic, 1/72nd ground machines. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:01:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD475908@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > Waah! Waah! Waah! > > Having just returned from the IPMS Nats, I can say that I am > sick of all of the bitching and moaning about judging. (snip) > I have 517 messages to go through, and I hope that they are aren't all > complaining and whining. Bite me Dave. Sorry that the subjects of *polite* discussion on this list don't meet with your approval. > WWI may be a minority, and I would agree with that. But the bunker > mentality is crap, and the idea that WWI modelers are > automatically victims is B.S. But I agree with this. At our local show the WW1 stuff has *never* been split out and still won a disproportionate number of the awards. > >nd there are ways of helping > the situation instead of crying about > it all. Dare I say it? One way is to discuss what is perceived to be wrong, and talk about what if *anything* can or needs to be done. Of course, we could take your line and ban all discussion > On second thought, take it wrong, I don't > give a damn.) Good. So you won't be offended that I disagreed. Shane > ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:44:21 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Nats 2001, was Re: Judging Message-ID: <022201bed884$dc79b900$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> > ><< In case you haven't heard, Seattle lost the bid for the 2001 Nats. > Bummer. However, it is going to be held in Chicago. I'm bummed because > I would have tried to come out for the Seattle Nats, but now I'm glad I > don't have to travel so far. :-) >> > >While I might actually have to travel farther, it's far more likely I will >meet more people at a convention in Chicago than one in the Upper Left Corner >- same would be true of one in the Lower Left Corner, just like the >much-smaller-than-last-year/year-before just completed in the Lower Right >Tail. > >Tom C Thank God that it's in Chicago - who the hell wants to go to a convention where it's cloudy and raining all day? Besides, I'd be willing to bet that a Chicago Nats will be bigger as it is centrally located as opposed to being way the hell up there where I sure ain't gonna drive, and I don't feel like flying with all the crap I buy. Same with the Dallas show next year. Shall I remind you of the low attendance of last year's show?... DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:47:02 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Where are you? Was RE: Judging Message-ID: <022301bed884$dd64b540$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Dave Burke, Birmingham, Alabama. That about says it all. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:55:36 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Was - Re: Where are you (from)? Message-ID: <022401bed884$de35c0e0$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Dave! Got to talk to Crandall and get his book. Nice fellow! DB -----Original Message----- From: Dave Wadman To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:45 AM Subject: Was - Re: Where are you (from)? >Millen, Alan R. wrote: >> >> Dave Wadman, >> >> Welcome to the list! Didn't realize you had an interest beyond JV44! >> (Ooops, did I spill the beans?) > >Hi Alan, > >Long time no hear! JV44 is only a little corner of my aviation >interests. Actually, I've been lurking around here for about six months >but as yet, have had nothing of any significance to contribute (however, >that will change shortly -I hope- once I've completed my current WW1 >project). > >> Seriously, this is a wonderful source of information and amusment combined. >> I haven't had this much fun reading on a long time. > >I couldn't agree more. Still, it would be nice if our Canadian >contingent could recruit a few more Dave's (complete with beards) eh? >;-) > >All the best > >Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:04:21 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: My tiny share of the glory Message-ID: <022501bed884$df085320$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Ahem... Of course Mr. Thomas forgot to mention the owner of the FW 190 D-13 base that loaned him a little greenery so his landing-gear imperfections weren't detected as his lower wing wasn't parallel to the ground.... I won nothing, so I glom onto what I can - I'm an American. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:07:52 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Nats update Message-ID: <022601bed884$dfc895e0$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Jim, Congrats on the E.III diorama. I had seen it before - Atlanta or Anniston perhaps? Good work - I like it! Next Nats - I'll be on the WWI table too. Hopefully. Maybe. Actually, I don't wanna think about next year. DB -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wallace To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, July 26, 1999 9:21 AM Subject: RE: Nats update >> Who took the "Mike Fritz"? > >Bill Powers took it and a third place for his 1/72 Siemens. It has a >fantastic scratch build (at 1/72!) engine. You can see a photo of it at: > >http://www.chromaconcepts.com/nats_update/aircraft_pics/siemens_schuckert.j p >g > >I took my E.III that many of you have seen and was in our club's OTF issue >last year. It came away empty handed. But my E.III diorama took first >place. You can see photos of it and the E.III from my page: > >http://jmw3.home.mindspring.com/wwi/models/jwplane.htm > >Jim Wallace > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:14:14 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I'm BACK!!!! Message-ID: <026801bed885$c25d58a0$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> If you do, I'll treat us all to Chinese turkey! DB -----Original Message----- From: John Glaser To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 6:23 AM Subject: RE: I'm BACK!!!! >I triple-dog-dare you to start that thread again! > >- JCG >-----Original Message----- >From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of >KarrArt@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 12:51 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: I'm BACK!!!! > > >In a message dated 7/25/99 9:52:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > ><< Tired but happy, > E. >> > > Well, shucks and a cheese sandwich....good deal, congrats and all that on >the award! (it's not a big lamp shaped like a female leg, is it?) >Robert K. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:16:47 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rudder Stripers Anonymous -- The Pledge Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Matthew E Bittner wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:31:06 -0400 (EDT) "The Shannons" > writes: > > > No, my friends, I am through with the demon rudder stripe decals. I > > have > > sworn off, and shall never allow them to pass my muster ever again! > > A man who has seen the light! > > I will never use rudder decals again. If the serials I need are already > attached to a striped decal (ala Flashback Strutter) then I will find an > alternate source for those serials. > > As Mark said, there is no way to get everything to match completely. > > Matt: Fair enough. I agree that the rudder stripes are fairly straightforward to do with paint, however, how do you ensure the colours match those of the other markings; e.g. RFC or French roundels? Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:40:46 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modelers vs Historians Message-ID: <379E437E.53DA1BFA@black-hole.com> If you are interested in some good documentary type movies. PBS has a 8 part series called "The Great War" that I just watched. Very good stuff! It is along the lines of "The Civil War" that they did. Also, the History Channel has a special on the air war, as well as on Zeppelins. I forget the names at the moment. My vote for best movie is still Wings, but then I am a sucker for the silent movies and the starlets in them. rob johnson "Landon, James D" wrote: > <> > > I neglected to mention that I bought The Blue Max., and The Great Waldo > Pepper from Amazon.com some months ago and have nearly worn them out. Well, > at least the parts with Ursulla Andress. ;-) > > Zeppelin I was unaware of, or forgot about. Here I go to Amazon.com again. > > Jim > > ---------- > > From: Tom Solinski > > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 2:44 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Modelers vs Historians > > > > > The only reason I can say 10% historian is because I just bought 3 WWI > > video > > > tapes thru Amazon.com. Last night I watched "Dawn Patrol". Sunday > > night I > > > watched "Hell's Angels". So now I know "all about" WWI, right? ;-) > > > > > > No? Well if I watch "Wings" tonight, then I'll know "all about" WWI, > > right? > > > ;-) > > > > > > > What about the Blue Max., and Great Waldo Pepper, and and ZEPPELIN?? > > > > :-) Tom S > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:23:42 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nats update Message-ID: <199907272341.QAA25215@mail.rapidnet.net> > And I know that French doesn't sell well, but how do you account for the > Eduard Nie.17 selling so well? Hmmm? Because the RFC used it ? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:19:38 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I'm BACK!!!! Message-ID: <035b01bed888$945fa2c0$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> ><< Tired but happy, > E. >> > > Well, shucks and a cheese sandwich....good deal, congrats and all that on >the award! (it's not a big lamp shaped like a female leg, is it?) >Robert K. No, it's a goddamned little plaque about 8x4 inches, finished in faux marble and I know this because he fondled the damned thing all the way on the drive back!!! My only consolation is that he was crammed into the backseat of my Saturn (2 door!)! Along with the occasional offer to us up front if we wanted to see it! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:25:43 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Judging Message-ID: <035c01bed888$95417740$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >> > Tom was saying.... >> > >> > >> At the last Chino show, my Pup was tossed out of competition because the wheels >> > >> "weren't properly aligned" - they were cast in, just like Sopwith wheels really are >> > And thus we see the added value of putting photos and 'cheat sheets' next to our models to inform the judges of the little points that he may not know about. Guys, here's the deal, and you can't get away from it: CONTEST JUDGES AREN'T GOING TO KNOW ABOUT EVERY NUANCE OF YOUR AIRCRAFT. EVEN THOSE WHO MODEL IN YOUR PARTICULAR GENRE WON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR TYPE. If you take the time to build the model, the time to pack it, transport it, and display it, you can take the time to work up a cheat sheet. You all have no excuses either as you all obviously have access to computers. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:32:38 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... Message-ID: <035e01bed888$96ecb640$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >Matt writes: > >> > This is not good. In all my contests I have entered, that have not >> > followed IPMS judging rules, these 10thingies and such *always* beat WW1 >> > entries. Period. There was a Regional a few years ago here that went to >> > their own "style" of judging, and even Hustad's WW1's were beat out by >> > mediocre at best 10thingies and the like. > >Tom Cleaver chimes in: > >> Boy, this is one time I come down firmly on the side of Matt! Even when >> there is "IPMS Judging" and it isn't the "Idiot Putzes Making Sh - t" variety >> (which is far more common than anyone wants to admit), I have been on judging >> teams where WW1 models competed directly with the WW2 stuff, and judges would >> hardly even look at the WW1 stuff. Often, they really don't know what >> they're looking at, and since you have the thing where people can't judge the >> category they compete in, believe me it is hard to convince some >> creepy-crawlie builder to notice *anything* about an airplane, and they will >> go for what they know - which means the 10-thingie gets it (especially since >> it seems that all creepy-crawlie builders do German stuff anyway, so they are >> actively predisposed). When RK's O-400 competed at Chino in 1998, it took >> the active lobbying of the three other WW1 modelers there to get it looked >> at, and we had to point things out to the other judges and explain to them >> what they were seeing - at another show where WW1s competed with everything >> else, his 1/32 Gotha came in *third* behind two AMT A-20s assembled nicely >> and full of True Details resin and aftermarket decals. At Chino, once they >> knew, he won Best of Show, but that's what it took for it to happen. At the >> last Chino show, my Pup was tossed out of competition because the wheels >> "weren't properly aligned" - they were cast in, just like Sopwith wheels >> really are (and not both to the same degree, even more realistic). > >Both of you quit yer bitchin'!!! Are you in this hobby because you're >trophy hounds, or because you LOVE what you build, and can appreciate >what OTHER people build? Dammit, I have a VERY hard time with the >whole contest mentality PERIOD. (And yes, if you would like, I can >send you photos of MY trophies, thank you.) But let's face it: ANY >contest is going to be subjectively judged, and the LEAST meaningful >trophies/awards are the "People's Award" varity, where I've seen >model "Predators" and glammed-up race cars beat actually well-done >models (like mine ;-). Then there's the "Judge's Awards", which mean >a whole lot more (to me). But in any case, you are dealing with human >beings, who are very likely NOT to have as great a knowledge of WWI >stuff as they do of WWII or later. And THEN you run into what I have >read here referred to as the "RLM Nazis" - doofusses who haven't >actually BUILT anything lately but through some twisted psyhcology >have set themselves up as the "Final Word" on their subject. > >Honestly, the way some bitch artists whine about "one-oh-thingies" >sounds positively Freudian in it's apparent manifestation of some >sort of mingled envy and hatred. Get used to it: the VAST majority of >the public thinks ALL modelers are arrested-development adolescents, >and the majority of the MODELING community doesn't know or care as >much about WWI as they do about later stuff. So the hell what?! Do >what YOU want to, and if you get hurt feelings at contests because >some jumped-up dweeb thinks your wheels aren't on correctly, or that >they overlooked your scratch-built 1/96th Muromets, then don't GO to >the stupid contests. > >Sheesh. > >Mark >mshanks@fltdyn.com F***IN"-A RIGHT MARK!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:43:59 -0700 From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: Exchange Rates Message-ID: <028801bed889$e70164e0$4b8c3ace@default> After not checking my email for just one day, I've just weeded through 153 posts!! This is the URL for the Universal Currency Converter....( after converting some Aussie $$$$ for David Laws recently, it is really handy) http://www.languagepartners.com/currency_converter.htm Mike Dicianna "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > I remember in the past someone posted a URL for a site that does exchange > rates. Could someone repost, please? > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:41:50 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nats update Message-ID: <45f9081e.24cf9dbe@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-27 18:39:41 EDT, you write: << And I know that French doesn't sell well, but how do you account for the Eduard Nie.17 selling so well? Hmmm? >> Because we all grew up on the Testors kit. I know for sure it was the first biplane I ever made! Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:44:04 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dolphin Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-27 18:45:39 EDT, you write: << Hey Cleaver, was you there? >> uh-uh. See you in Texas, if they'll renew my passport. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:44:42 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Exchange Rates Message-ID: <379E446A.4E2B@prodigy.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > I remember in the past someone posted a URL for a site that does exchange > rates. Could someone repost, please? http://www.oanda.com/converter/classic Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:48:58 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Where are you? Was RE: Judging Message-ID: <42d8bda3.24cf9f6a@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-27 18:47:48 EDT, you write: << AND BESIDES, DENVER IS WONDERFUL!!! >> Exclusive of the late winter storms in March just when you think it's safe to come out of hibernation, the Platte floods, the summer thunderstorms, plain old ordinary everyday Winter, and the fact that the only time anyone can see the Front Range of the Rockies in the past 35 years is after a big wind comes along and blows all the crap away, not to mention the Dutch Elm disease 25 years ago ended all the nice tree-shaded streets. Tom Cleaver (who remembers when there was *open country* between Denver and Littleton and Englewood and all the other little 'burbs) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:51:21 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nats 2001, was Re: Judging Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-27 19:13:55 EDT, Dave B writes: << Shall I remind you of the low attendance of last year's show?... >> Which was higher than the still-lower attendance of this year's. I think that my point was, I agree with you. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:54:14 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modelers vs Historians Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-27 19:30:52 EDT, you write: << My vote for best movie is still Wings, but then I am a sucker for the silent movies and the starlets in them. >> Especially if you latch onto the pre-Hays Code original version, where you get to see Clara Bow like you never saw her before or since in the "dream sequence." Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:15:02 -0700 From: Fernando Lamas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Which 1964 LIFE issue commemorated WW I Aviation? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990727171502.00865100@olympus.net> Remember back in 1964 when LIFE Magazine had their WW I commemorative series? I still have some cut out pictures from the aviation issue that I used in a Cub Scout project scrapbook. I want to find another copy of that issue on eBay and keep it all in one piece this time. Does anyone know which particular LIFE Magazine issue (month, week and year) focused on aviation? I will not divulge the identity of the WW I aviator whose photos I cut out as a 9 year-old Cub Scout in order to avoid getting Sandy Adam's bowels in an uproar. ;-) Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:37:23 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Nats update Message-ID: <057701bed88f$3a97c360$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> > >> Bill Powers took it and a third place for his 1/72 Siemens. It has a >> fantastic scratch build (at 1/72!) engine You should see it in person! Unfortunately, Bill wasn't there in person, but as he also lives here in Birmingham, I got to chew the fat with him about it when I first saw it at Anniston Regionals. It is a honey! DB P.S., Jerry Krieger (hope I spelled it right) got gipped as his Sopwith Tripe didn't even rate a mention!! What a rip off as his Tripe is a damned beauty!! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:38:29 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I'm Back Message-ID: <057801bed88f$3b612de0$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >If people do go to Chicago, we definitely have to have a list's night >out. Heck, there are enough of us on this list in the general area as it >is! :-) > > >Matt Bittner I'll DEFINITELY be there - I have family in Chi-town (us Micks run the city you know!) DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:03:51 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... Message-ID: <057a01bed88f$3cf27c40$7a82aec7@dora9sprynet.com> >Bite me Dave. I'd rather not - it's probably in that tiny scale anyway. So cheery a person too. No wonder your ancestors were exiled down there. >Good. So you won't be offended that I disagreed. Like I'd expect different. And no, a lot of it isn't creative discussion, you twit. It is whining. Read more of what I said, especially about how it is YOUR (the modeler's) responsibility to educate the judges in alot of cases, with notes and cheat sheets. Perhaps too difficult, eh? Go blow a croc. > >Shane >> Pththth! Dave >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential (pointless) >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:26:22 EDT From: Modelhound@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Exchange Rates Message-ID: <4b2ea4f7.24cfa82e@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/1999 3:57:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mbittner@juno.com writes: << I remember in the past someone posted a URL for a site that does exchange rates. Could someone repost, please? >> http://www.xe.net/currency/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:38:35 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modelers vs Historians Message-ID: <379E510B.53B440D5@black-hole.com> The version I say was pretty reveling. I am not sure if it is the pre-Hays Code (not sure what that is I'm just a baby after all ;) version or not but is was enough. And I got it from the public library. Do tell me more. I love to know about different versions of movies. rob johnson Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-07-27 19:30:52 EDT, you write: > > << My vote for best movie is still Wings, but then I am a sucker for the > silent movies and the starlets in them. >> > > Especially if you latch onto the pre-Hays Code original version, where you > get to see Clara Bow like you never saw her before or since in the "dream > sequence." > > Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:34:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD47590C@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dave, > Like I'd expect different. Just with you sweetie. > So cheery a person too. What can I say. Loud mouth wankers invariably set my teeth on edge. > And no, a lot of it isn't > creative discussion, you twit. It is whining. > > Go blow a croc. Nice to see you back. And in such good humour. >P.S., Jerry Krieger (hope I spelled it right) got >gipped as his Sopwith Tripe didn't even rate a >mention!! What a rip off as his Tripe is a damned >beauty!! And soooo consistent. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1737 **********************