WWI Digest 1735 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by "WALTER H. APPEL" 2) Re: I'm BACK!!!! by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Interesting bit of history by Albatrosdv@aol.com 5) Re: Where are you? THE MAPS! by Matthew E Bittner 6) Re: Over The Front Vol.13 No.4 by Matthew E Bittner 7) Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by Matthew E Bittner 8) Re: Where are you? - 1st Ammended list by Scottfking@aol.com 9) RE: I'm BACK!!!! by "John Glaser" 10) Re: Over The Front Vol.13 No.4 by Sharon Henderson 11) WW1 SIG (Was Re: I'm BACK!!!!) by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 12) Re: Re: I'm BACK!!!! by GRBroman@aol.com 13) Re: WW1 SIG by Albatrosdv@aol.com 14) Re: WW1 SIG by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 15) RE: Nats update by "Landon, James D" 16) Re: American Triplane ? by "Len Smith" 17) Re: Photos from the Musee de l'Air by "Len Smith" 18) Re: I'm BACK!!!! by "Len Smith" 19) Re: Nats update by "Lance Krieg" 20) Re: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by GRBroman@aol.com 21) RE: Where are you? Was RE: Judging by "Landon, James D" 22) Re: WW1 SIG by Albatrosdv@aol.com 23) Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by Albatrosdv@aol.com 24) RE: Re: I'm BACK!!!! by "Landon, James D" 25) Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 26) Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by "Bob Pearson" 28) Re: Judging by "Bob Pearson" 29) RE: Modelers vs Historians by "Landon, James D" 30) A little scary by "Landon, James D" 31) Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... by Ernest Thomas 32) RE: Where are you? Was RE: Judging by "Landon, James D" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:06:21 -0500 From: "WALTER H. APPEL" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: <379D4C5D.65DF@erols.com> The American Home Brewers Association won't let anyone judge their events until they have actually taken courses on the different styles of beer out there. It is a pretty intensive course and not as much fun as it sounds. How can someone be a judge if they are not familiar with every category? If the IPMS has taken the trouble to have a handbook then every judge should take the trouble to learn it. Also, the web site has an article by Tom Solinski that explains German Aircraft Designation under Modeling Information. W ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:50:36 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I'm BACK!!!! Message-ID: <43fab98.24cea2ac@aol.com> In a message dated 7/25/99 9:52:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Tired but happy, E. >> Well, shucks and a cheese sandwich....good deal, congrats and all that on the award! (it's not a big lamp shaped like a female leg, is it?) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:50:38 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Judging / was: further on the future of the hobby..... Message-ID: In a message dated 7/25/99 4:50:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << This reminds me of the incredible 1/35 Type VIIc U-boat that showed up at the Chino show in June. It was "huge*!!! The guy had spent over $1,000 on the kit (not to mention the figures, the stuff on the pier, the pier, etc., etc.), and he hand-painted it. >> Yeah, if I was going to spend that kind of dough on a kit, I think I'd do a bit experimenting first with any new techniques,get my self some tools and a couple of cheap kits to practice on first. Damn thing WAS impressive form a distance! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:01:47 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Interesting bit of history Message-ID: <444583f0.24ceb35b@aol.com> Ran across this doing research on the Chosin Rerservoir retreat for a film project. It is a copy of the diary of Capt. Alfred Cunningham, the first USMC aviator, and recounts his tour of British and French aviation facilities from November 1917 to January 1918. Some very interesting observations. http://raven.cc.ukans.edu/~kansite/ww_one/marines/cunning/flyer.html Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:25:12 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Where are you? THE MAPS! Message-ID: <19990727.053317.-251475.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:43:15 -0400 (EDT) "Chris Banyai-Riepl" writes: > OK, I've updated the maps to reflect the latest additions. The world > is > filling up quickly! We have no one from Africa, though. One of us > will > have to move there. Same goes for Antarctica..... Be sure to take warm clothing, Chris. :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:24:02 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Over The Front Vol.13 No.4 Message-ID: <19990727.053317.-251475.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Sharon Henderson writes: > Well, if all that "British crap" has you kerflummoxed, > you > might try Vol 13 #3. There's a really Great article about a > dogfight, by > some girl historian person. ;-) That wouldn't be by that woman from Iowa, would it? :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:32:46 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: <19990727.053317.-251475.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:12:29 -0400 (EDT) "WALTER H. APPEL" writes: > How can someone be a judge if they are not familiar with every > category? I wanted to chime in on Glen's message, but waited until now. (Note: for those who want to say "build for fun only, then", stop reading. I do build for fun, but at the same time for competition.) While I agree that in IPMS the basics come first, but with the quality we're seeing now, what about after the basics? From their on out, it should be historical representation. For example, locally there's a Revell Dr.I that has been making the contest rounds with the wings covered in lozenge, and it has been winning. Why? Something like this should never even be thought of. If it comes down to Joe Smith (apologies to any Joe Smith's out there) and myself for first place, and he won because the judges liked it better versus being historically accurate, then the IPMS judges should be thrown out. Seriously. Why don't I judge, then? Because I'm always competing, and you can't judge the category you're entered in. Until I win the Mike Fritz (if I ever do) then I will always compete. Once won, then I will think about judging. :-) Plus, nine times out of ten, at the Nats the judges aren't given enough time to look over any documentation given with the model. It all comes down to time. So, I'm a firm believer that those who judge a category should "know" that category. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:19:48 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Where are you? - 1st Ammended list Message-ID: <19b61721.24ceefd4@aol.com> Scott King, Clarksville, Indiana (aka Skippy) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:18:55 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: I'm BACK!!!! Message-ID: I triple-dog-dare you to start that thread again! - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of KarrArt@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 12:51 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: I'm BACK!!!! In a message dated 7/25/99 9:52:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Tired but happy, E. >> Well, shucks and a cheese sandwich....good deal, congrats and all that on the award! (it's not a big lamp shaped like a female leg, is it?) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:20:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Over The Front Vol.13 No.4 Message-ID: :-) Ohh, Matt, you sure know how to hurt a gal.... :-) (Ernest, don't go down that road -- oh dear, no way he's gonna hear me, he's *sprinting*.... ) No, dear man, I was referring to MY article on Kurt Wolff. :-) In fact, the whole issue is heavily Imperial; there's also a wonderful article on Eduard von Schleich by the proprietor of Der Rittmeister Militaria, Ken Greenfield (a nice guy, BTW). There's also an article by Blue Max author Jack Hunter, on what it's like to want to make the ultimate WW1 aviation movie -- and having Hollywood intervene.... :-) Cheers, Sharon On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Matthew E Bittner wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Sharon Henderson > writes: > > > Well, if all that "British crap" has you kerflummoxed, > > you > > might try Vol 13 #3. There's a really Great article about a > > dogfight, by > > some girl historian person. ;-) > > That wouldn't be by that woman from Iowa, would it? :-) > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:12:48 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WW1 SIG (Was Re: I'm BACK!!!!) Message-ID: In the words of Bluto in Animal House: "Let's do iiiiitttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Paul >> A WW1 SIG is really necessary to educate the doofi (that's more than one doofus standing together in a group). I believe (but would not wish to be held to it even if the only other two whose votes count are also members of this list) I can speak for IM that we would support such an idea. Tom Cleaver << ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:28:00 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: I'm BACK!!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 7/26/99, 11:21:24 PM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << Glen: How does one obtain a copy of this book? I think it would help novices such as myself as well as more experienced folk. Michael>> Well, you can order one from IPMS/USA at about $1 or $2 a copy. I can check the particulars and let you know. If you attend the Judges training held at each National, you are provided with one. It may even be posted on the web site at www.ipmsusa.org. HTH, Glen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:29:39 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 SIG Message-ID: <135289bd.24cf3873@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-27 11:12:28 EDT, you write: << In the words of Bluto in Animal House: "Let's do iiiiitttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Assuming we have a list member with an understanding of IPMS mumbo-jumbo, perhaps that someone could volunteer to obtain the necessary information about forming such a group and inform the list so steps can be taken. Sorry, I don't know that stuff, and between scrabbling to pay the rent and hassling to keep IM in operation, God knows where the time goes since I certainly don't. In other words, I'll be perfectly happy to follow somone else's leadership here. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:56:00 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 SIG Message-ID: I believe information is published in the IPMS/USA Journal in the back that explains how to get started. I believe some type of newsletter may be a requirement, but am unsure. If nobody else comes forward, I may have some time to check into it and get it started, but this would also definitely have to be a "team" effort in the long term. The other thing that has been brought up is would it really work? Does communications within the list and web sites (IM, Chandelle, Bob Pearson's profile pages, etc) really make a SIG redundant? I would like to see if there is enough interest here to start one. If so, a SIG may be able to reach those WW1 modelers who do not (gasp!) have access to a computer or internet. Comments pro or con anyone? Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:59:26 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Nats update Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A3074@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> <> I think maybe I see why!!!!!! What did you have as source material? Do you have real photos of this scene? If my question is too juvenile to tie up this bulletin board, respond off-list. Jim, the newbie wanabee wwi modeler (and trying to catch up on two days email) > ---------- > From: Jim Wallace > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 7:19 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Nats update > > > Who took the "Mike Fritz"? > > Bill Powers took it and a third place for his 1/72 Siemens. It has a > fantastic scratch build (at 1/72!) engine. You can see a photo of it at: > > http://www.chromaconcepts.com/nats_update/aircraft_pics/siemens_schuckert. > jp > g > > I took my E.III that many of you have seen and was in our club's OTF issue > last year. It came away empty handed. But my E.III diorama took first > place. You can see photos of it and the E.III from my page: > > http://jmw3.home.mindspring.com/wwi/models/jwplane.htm > > Jim Wallace > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:18:02 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: American Triplane ? Message-ID: <000d01bed852$9e269880$7f5b08c3@default> Alan, I vote for option 2. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Millen, Alan R. To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 5:08 PM Subject: American Triplane ? > Hi gang! > > 'Way back on July 5th, I posed the question,"Both the Profile and the > Datafile state, IIRC, that the Sopwith Triplane was put to trials in the US. > Did it wear US markings at any time during it's sojourn?" > > Judging from the deafening silence (read "zero responses"), I would tend to > come to one of two conclusions: > > 1) The Sopwith Triplane NEVER appeared in US markings. > > or > > 2) There is no documented evidence to support it one way or the other, only > hearsay. (Ever notice how close hearsay and heresy are in spelling?) > > Any opinions as to which one would be the most likely? > > Thanks in advance! > > Alan R. Millen > Phone 610.676.1194 > Fax 610.676.3194 > E-mail amllen@seic.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:06:31 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Photos from the Musee de l'Air Message-ID: <000e01bed852$9fc10ea0$7f5b08c3@default> Jim Landon wrote > > Thanks Len for taking the time and effort to post the pics. Good > photography. Interesting planes. > Thanks, Jim. As a modeller of sorts myself I try to take photos of bits of planes that may be useful later,rather than always full views. You might like to check out http://w3c.mae.org for the official photos of some of their planes. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:07:10 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: I'm BACK!!!! Message-ID: <000f01bed852$a1218900$7f5b08c3@default> E wrote > > In this case, I have to say, a win from the 1/72 scale catagory would > have meant even more. Much much more competition. And thanks. I am surprised! Going by the reports on the list I thought that only 1/48 and larger models were at your Nats. Did I miss a posting about the 1/72 brigade? :-) Not that it matters much, a good model in any scale is well worth seeing. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:35:54 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Nats update Message-ID: Congratulations to the list members who attended, let alone won. Hey, E, did Eric at CSM update you on his 1/48 lineup? When last I heard there was a MoS A-1 in the works, but he says the French stuff doesn't sell (sorry, Matt, that's what the man said). Lance Krieg (515) 242-4525 ULK@Amerus.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:50:41 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/99, 6:37:43 AM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: < To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Where are you? Was RE: Judging Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A3076@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> Hi Graham, Any relation to Graeme Edge, the drummer for The Moody Blues? (Just kidding) Jim, sorry for the off topic post > ---------- > From: Graham Nash > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 12:13 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Where are you? Was RE: Judging > > Add me too. > > Graham Nash, London, England > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:26:52 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 SIG Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-27 12:55:45 EDT, you write: << The other thing that has been brought up is would it really work? Does communications within the list and web sites (IM, Chandelle, Bob Pearson's profile pages, etc) really make a SIG redundant? I would like to see if there is enough interest here to start one. If so, a SIG may be able to reach those WW1 modelers who do not (gasp!) have access to a computer or internet. Comments pro or con anyone? >> My friend Scott Spencer runs the FAA-SIG (www.faasig.com), as well as their newsletter, The Batsman. Fleet Air Arm is about as "esoteric" as WW1 (don't growl at me like that, to the "normies" it's true!). There are a lot of modelers out there who do not have computer access, and others who find them by searching IPMS. I know we at IM have been thinking about adding a page somewhere for information on clubs, shows, etc., so "getting the word out" shouldn't be that hard. I do know of two people who didn't know about The List who found out from all the WW1 features and reviews we have up there. Oh, another thing, unrelated: can someone send me a thumbnail history of the Aviatik Berg so I don't sound like a Compleat Idiot when I write the in-box review of it? Please respond today off-list - Bob Pearson will appreciate all minutes and seconds you save him not having to do this if you can help me. I admit I don't know much about the airplane other than I remember George Lee made a beautiful scratch-built one in 1/32 back in 1973, and from what I can remember of it, those hex decals don't look so far off, but I'd hate to be quoted as an authority there. Can't believe a fighter had a control yoke!! Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:34:33 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: <8ba037c0.24cf55b9@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-27 13:54:05 EDT, you write: << Speaking of which, I spent hours making an historicaly accurate Mark IV. Do tons of research to come up with the correct ( as near as can be) markings and colors. Spend hours making sure the basic building techniques are right, everything is properly aligned and the %(*&@## handrails are straight as an arrow. So whats the only award I bring home? My hypothetical, Testors UFO in NASCAR markings built in a day. You have to appreciate the irony :). But to be honest, It was the most fun I've had building a kit in ages. But as long as Messrs. Bittner and Hustad stay home, I do all right! : >> I am sure the treadheads didn't like that the Mk.IV wasn't WW2 and German - you probably could have done it in a combination of German lozenge and A-H hex and they would neither have known nor cared! :-) Ever notice that's what wins always, unless the category is split between German and Everybody Else??? When I have done judging at local shows, the whimsy of something like that UFO always gives me a chuckle, which is worth at least ten more points. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:21:02 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Re: I'm BACK!!!! Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A307B@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> <> Me too. > ---------- > From: GRBroman@aol.com > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 8:29 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Re: I'm BACK!!!! > > In a message dated 7/26/99, 11:21:24 PM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: > << > Glen: > > How does one obtain a copy of this book? I think it would help novices > such as myself as well as more experienced folk. > > Michael>> > > Well, you can order one from IPMS/USA at about $1 or $2 a copy. I can > check > the particulars and let you know. If you attend the Judges training held > at > each National, you are provided with one. It may even be posted on the > web > site at www.ipmsusa.org. > HTH, Glen > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:25:00 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: Tom said: >>When I have done judging at local shows, the whimsy of something like that >>UFO always gives me a chuckle, which is worth at least ten more points. A few years ago, a friend of mine won one of those Glencoe re-issue Russian APC's at a club raffle. Well, since all he builds is car models, he decided to convert it into a dragster--complete with slicks, drag chute, wild paint scheme and sponsor decals. Actually, it looked very well done for just having a little fun with a kit. However, the treadheads and other sticks-in-the-mud in the club bad mouthed him something fierce behind his back (but not to his face) for "ruining" that kit. How sad when we can't even step back and have a good laugh at ourselves. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:57:03 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: <44038c7.24cf690f@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-27 15:24:51 EDT, you write: << A few years ago, a friend of mine won one of those Glencoe re-issue Russian APC's at a club raffle. Well, since all he builds is car models, he decided to convert it into a dragster--complete with slicks, drag chute, wild paint scheme and sponsor decals. Actually, it looked very well done for just having a little fun with a kit. However, the treadheads and other sticks-in-the-mud in the club bad mouthed him something fierce behind his back (but not to his face) for "ruining" that kit. How sad when we can't even step back and have a good laugh at ourselves. >> I had another friend who took Korean Era jets and did them up as Reno Air Racers back in the 80s - actually he used race car decals. People didn't like it!! I really don't know the difference between doing something like that and taking the XF5F-1 and doing it in a tri-color scheme (I've seen that), or the guy who took a Testors F-4 Phantom and did it up as a California Highway Patrol cruiser. (both of which elicited laughs) All in all, just goes to prove that, just because someone tells you they're a modeler, you can't always assume they're as cool as you hope. Like the folks I meet during the day who claim to be "writers." Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:13:48 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: <199907272022.NAA18564@mail.rapidnet.net> > When I have done judging at local shows, the whimsy of something like that > UFO always gives me a chuckle, which is worth at least ten more points. Barry Stetter had a dragon w/rider in lozenge and German crosses at the 1996 OTF show. ... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:35:02 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Re: Judging Message-ID: <199907272042.NAA19086@mail.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, This little tidbit appeared on the SMML courtesy of the head ship judge at the NATS, Rusty White. " In the Contest Committee meeting it was decided to literally rewrite the judges handbook. Since it was written so long ago, many changes have taken place that need to be addressed (like resin, metal and photo etch). Within 60 days I have to submit my suggestions concerning the ships section. " Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:01:30 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Modelers vs Historians Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A3086@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> <> Put me down as 10% modeller and 10% historian and 80% "ain't got a clue". ;-) The only reason I can say 10% historian is because I just bought 3 WWI video tapes thru Amazon.com. Last night I watched "Dawn Patrol". Sunday night I watched "Hell's Angels". So now I know "all about" WWI, right? ;-) No? Well if I watch "Wings" tonight, then I'll know "all about" WWI, right? ;-) Jim Landon > ---------- > From: Suvoroff@aol.com > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 11:34 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Modelers vs Historians > > Why Modellers vs. Historians? I consider myself 100% modeller, AND 100% > historian. > > Yours, > James D. Gray > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:05:03 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: A little scary Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A3087@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> <> I agree, nice to "meet" you all. *HOWEVER* it's a little scary to know how many silent people out there have been reading our stupid posts and quietly rolling their eyes and shaking their heads. ;-) Jim > ---------- > From: Zulis@aol.com > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 9:31 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Was - Re: Where are you (from)? > > > > << Still, it would be nice if our Canadian contingent could recruit a few > more Dave's (complete with beards) eh? ;-) >> > > Hey! I resemble that remark!.... > > Actually, one of the best things about this "where are you from" project > is > the number of quiet list members who have taken the opportunity to speak > up. > Nice to hear from you..... > > Dave Z > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:05:07 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Don't mean to butt in , butt..... Message-ID: <379E1F03.5C6C@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > Barry Stetter had a dragon w/rider in lozenge and German crosses at the 1996 > OTF show. ... And there's a guy here in N.O. who built some TV Sci-fi space ship fighter(from Babylon 5 I think) with Superscale night lozenge. Looks cool too. There are those of us who will build something anachronistic just for the sake of rileing up the purists. Dave Burke will be building sometime in the near future an A-7 Corsair in Blue Angels markings. Those of you who made it to Orlando by way of I-75 will appreciate this one I think. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:09:21 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Where are you? Was RE: Judging Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A3088@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> I haven't seen my name pop onto the list yet ... maybe I was too subtle in the way I provided the info before. Let's try this: MY NAME IS JIM LANDON AND I RESIDE IN DENVER COLORAD USA. ;-) Jim (sorry) > ---------- > From: Zulis@aol.com > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 2:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Where are you? Was RE: Judging > > Chris enquires: > > << Where is everyone from? I know that this has been brought up a > while ago, but I'm sure that there have been some new additions to the > list > since then. >> > > Well, I still have a copy of the previous "roll call" - so perhaps I > should > just post it and let people made additions and corrections..... > > Adam, Sandy Crieff, Scotland > Allred, Bob Charlotte, North Carolina > Anz-Meador, Dr.Phillip Houston, Texas > Bacon, Bill Canyon, Texas > Banyai-Riepl, Chris Naselle, Washington > Barrett, Kevin Toronto, Canada > Beran, Michal Strakonice, Czech republic > Berlien, John Plano, Texas > Bittner, Matthew E. Omaha, Nebraska > Broman, Glen Port Byron, Illinois > Cato, Chris Hartford, Connecticutt > Crofoot, Tim Cloquet, Minnesota > de C.Triffoni, Alex Campinas, Brazil > Dicianna, Mike Lebanon,Oregon > Endy, Leonard Prince George, Virginia > Fauchon, Mick Stockton, Australia > Fernetti, Diego Argentina > Fisher, Eric El Dorado Hills, California > Fletcher, David Courtenay, British Columbia, Canada > Forsch, Carl Harrisburg, Pennsylvania > Franklin, Mike Bellingham, Washington > Geher, Eli Huntsville, Alabama > Glaser, John Houston, Texas > Glueck, Hans-Juergen Offenbach, Germany > Goodwin, Riordan San Francisco, California > Gossen, Brad Oshawa, Ontario, Canada (905) 721-0792 > Gray, James D. Bremerton, Washington > Gronczewski, Tomasz Bedzin, Poland > Hagen, Knut-Erik Oslo, Norway > Henderson, Sharon Fairfax, Virginia > Humphreys, Jay St.Augustine, Florida > Jenkins,Shane & Lorna Gorokan, Australia > Karr, Robert Westminster California > Kelly, David Bloomington, Indiana > Kinnear, David San Jose, California > Lawder, Martin Munich, Germany > Lefort, Michel Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium > Lyzun, Jim Thunder Bay, Canada > Magnus, Al Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada > McClellan, Robert Memphis ,Tennessee > McOsker, Gerald P. Newport, Rhode Island > Mensinger, Lee J. New Braunfels, Texas > Milas, Rick Champaign, Illinois > Muth, Mike East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania > Niles, Russ Sacramento, California > Ozaki, Hirohisa Aichi, Japan > Pearson, Bob Prince Rupert British Columbia, Canada > Perry, Steven M. St.Petersburg, Florida > Pliml, Jim Abilene, Texas > Poloni, Franco Lodi, Italy > Rada, Alberto Caracas, Venezuela > Rile, Cameron Butler, New Jersey (ex pat Australian from Windsor , > > Sydney) > Shanks, Mark Portland, Oregon > Smith, Geoff Darwen, England > Soares, Pedro Lisbon, Portugal > Spriesterbach,Philippe Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium > Sterner, David Los Angeles, California > Subrt, Ivan Pilsen, West Bohemia, Czech Republic > Sundberg, Steve Webster City, Iowa > Superczynski, Al Little Rock, Arkansas > Szymanski, Maciej Poznan, Poland > Thomas, Ernest New Orleans Louisiana > Valdes, Carlos Atlanta, Georgia > Valenciano, Joey Manila, Philippines > Vilmazer, Bulent Ankara, Turkey > Vosburgh, David Egremont, Massachusetts > Watt, Dave Indianapolis, Indiana > Weier, Shane Brisbane, Australia > Woodbury, Robert Perth, Australia > Zivich, Matthew Saginaw, Michigan. > Zulis, David Toronto, Canada > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1735 **********************