WWI Digest 1707 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Aujour_d'hui=2C__la_f=EAte_nationale_de_la_France?= by "Sandy Adam" 2) =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Aujour_d'hui=2C__la_f=EAte_nationale_de_la_France?= by "Diego Fernetti" 3) Re: Hobby Shops by "Mark L. Shannon" 4) Re: Scale computers by modeleral@up-link.net (Al Superczynski) 5) Re: Drill numbers question was: Re: Dremel recommendations by infosilver@czechia.com 6) Re: Jenny Radiator by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 7) Re: Jenny Radiator by BEN8800@aol.com 8) In case you were wondering... by "DAVID BURKE" 9) Mercedes D. II engine by Jimmy Moncrieff 10) (no subject) by BEN8800@aol.com 11) Re: In case you were wondering... by mkendix 12) Re: (no subject) by Modelhound@aol.com 13) Re: (no subject) by Larry Neal 14) Re: In case you were wondering... by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Re: Hobby Shops by Tom Solinski 16) New Images by Matthew E Bittner 17) Fokker D.VII ailerons by Matthew E Bittner 18) Re: New Images by "DAVID BURKE" 19) Re: (no subject) by BEN8800@aol.com 20) Re: (no subject) by BEN8800@aol.com 21) Re: (no subject) by Albatrosdv@aol.com 22) RE: Hello by Shane Weier 23) Re: (no subject) by Albatrosdv@aol.com 24) Re: Hello by "K. Hagerup" 25) Salamander Camo Photos by "K. Hagerup" 26) Workbench Pic by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 27) Re: Workbench Pic by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 28) =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ring's_BMW_letter_Nr.4_from_the_front_?= by Dave Watts 29) Re: New Images by Matthew E Bittner 30) Re: Workbench Pic by Matthew E Bittner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:45:49 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Aujour_d'hui=2C__la_f=EAte_nationale_de_la_France?= Message-ID: <011701bece12$69263f40$26e8b094@sandyada> Je crois que tu as l'ivrognerie de la Revolution? un exces du vin peut-etre? "Aux armes citoyens! Formez vos bataillons!" Sandy PS I'm off to play the Berlioz version of this with full orchestra, four brass bands three choirs and soloists - see if I can blow my Quad ELSs up! -----Original Message----- From: Diego Fernetti To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 14 July 1999 16:05 Subject: Aujour d'hui, la fête nationale de la France >Ça va, les mecs de la France! ces't la fête nationale de la France, 14 de >juillet, la revolution, quoi! >Allons, enfants de la Patrie, Que vôtres ennemis expirant et voient ton >triomphe et notre gloire; >heureux amis, un sang impur abreuvait nos sillons jusq'au 1918! >Et ça ces't pour toi aussi, Matt le francophile, et tous les listés qui se >sentent un âme revolutionaire. > >Diegano de Bergerac >(hey english speakers, go to translate this if you're interested) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:14:36 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Aujour_d'hui=2C__la_f=EAte_nationale_de_la_France?= Message-ID: <000401becd4a$cd887a20$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sandy! Nope. I'm sober. Imagine how I am when I get revolutionaire after a couple of verres. I've been humming the Marsellaise all day long. I miss the costume balls I used to attend every july 14th. D. -----Mensaje original----- De: Sandy Adam Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Miércoles, 14 de Julio de 1999 01:17 p.m. Asunto: Re: Aujour d'hui, la fête nationale de la France >Je crois que tu as l'ivrognerie de la Revolution? un exces du vin peut-etre? > >"Aux armes citoyens! Formez vos bataillons!" >Sandy >PS I'm off to play the Berlioz version of this with full orchestra, four >brass bands three choirs and soloists - see if I can blow my Quad ELSs up! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Diego Fernetti >To: Multiple recipients of list >Date: 14 July 1999 16:05 >Subject: Aujour d'hui, la fête nationale de la France > > >>Ça va, les mecs de la France! ces't la fête nationale de la France, 14 de >>juillet, la revolution, quoi! >>Allons, enfants de la Patrie, Que vôtres ennemis expirant et voient ton >>triomphe et notre gloire; >>heureux amis, un sang impur abreuvait nos sillons jusq'au 1918! >>Et ça ces't pour toi aussi, Matt le francophile, et tous les listés qui se >>sentent un âme revolutionaire. >> >>Diegano de Bergerac >>(hey english speakers, go to translate this if you're interested) >> >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:21:10 -0500 From: "Mark L. Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Hobby Shops Message-ID: <199907141725.MAA18521@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> In Austin, Texas we have a store like this, called King's Hobby. While they also stock trains, games and puzzles, they try to be helpful in each and have at least one member of the staff conversant with the details of that branch. No coffee, but they do provide a venue for classes. Prices are reasonable, though not particularly discounted in any area. (I've "comparison shopped" for the same kits in the other main, and the minor (HobbyTown, Michael's, and Hobby Lobby) places) Sometimes they are a bit higher, but they are often lower than the local competition. (case in point, they were a few cents higher on the DML WWI birds, equivalent on Eduard, but much lower on a off-topic Tamiya ship (the kit plus the hefty sales tax were still lower than the sticker price at the other shop!)). King's has even called me to tell me that they have received the new kit in one of my interest areas and ask if I would like one set aside! The other shop is not as friendly, but sometimes better for specific items -- King's doesn't stock as much in the 1/700 ships nor the cottage industry resin kits and figures. Village Hobby is interesting mainly for the wide variety of items both oop and current, but you often have to listen to the proprietor's somewhat jaundiced view of the world and politics while waiting for assistance or check-out. It also has longer hours. So basically I visit King's to browse find most of my purchases, and give them the first chance to order something special, but use Village for those times when I'm out of supply on Sunday or am looking for the special ship kits. HobbyTown and the other big chain hobbyshops are mainly to see if they have something on special (often brushes or airbrush parts or the like). .Mark. ---------- > From: Mark Shanks > So what was so special about Warbirds and Squadron? Both were, as > another poster had mentioned, like a "Cheers" - the owner was a > modeler, and he'd greet you by name. Anyone working there knew about > modeling, would let you look in the boxes, answer questions for > beginners, and make you feel welcome. > > Mark > mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:57:04 GMT From: modeleral@up-link.net (Al Superczynski) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Scale computers Message-ID: <378cdbeb.57423021@mail.up-link.net> On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:40:05 -0400 (EDT), David Burke wrote: > I have been looking and wracking my brains. Who sells scale >computers/calculators? Frank Crenshaw has developed a neat little 250KB application for this. It also calculates copier percentages for rescaling plans, etc. It's free for the asking: fccrensh@usgs.gov Tell Frank I sent you. HTH, Al http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 99 00:18:17 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Drill numbers question was: Re: Dremel recommendations Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:12:13 -0400 (EDT) David Vosburgh wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew E Bittner >Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:08 PM >Subject: Re: Drill numbers question was: Re: Dremel recommendations > > >Matt asks: > >>Where can we pick up numbers greater than 80? I can only find upto and >>including 80 locally. > > >Somebody last year turned me onto Small Parts Co., Inc. in FL ( www.smallparts.com ). They >have high-speed drill bits going down to #97, but be forewarned... they're US$9 each. > >It's worth getting their catalog, which is filled with tons of useful stuff. > >DV > > Thanks to everybody responding my drills question. 0.3 and 0.2 mm drill bits (approx. #83 and #92) are under $1.00 here. Anybody interested let me know off-list. Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:45:09 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jenny Radiator Message-ID: What about making the radiator grating a separate piece of metal mesh or screen, and let the builder attach it to the "solid" radiator himself? Only thing I can think of. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >>> 07/14/1999 10:11:34 AM >>> I'm looking for suggestions on how to make the brass master of the radiator that will be used for casting it in britannia metal. My major concern is how to do the front of the radiator grill. One thought I had was to solder a sheet of brass grating with small brass grating (1/32" square holes) over the front of a brass front. Careful soldering so I don't fill the holes with solder. Any other suggestions? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:03:22 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jenny Radiator Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/99 3:47:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com writes: << What about making the radiator grating a separate piece of metal mesh or screen, and let the builder attach it to the "solid" radiator himself? Only thing I can think of. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> Yes, I have thought of that. Maybe a photoetched front would be worth a look. The photoetch could just go part way thru the brass leaving the indents without going all the way thru. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:18:24 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: In case you were wondering... Message-ID: <001501bece36$09bba1c0$48f710d1@dora9sprynet.com> In case anyone was wondering if I actually did anything that was On Topic, the photos of my D.III are up in the gallery. See? I DO actually involve myself in OT stuff! DB n.b. (OT) Dr.1 - 4 days from complete, Hannover CI.II (2 weeks from complete), Nie.17 (on hold). ot: ahh, you don't wanna know. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:18:33 +0100 From: Jimmy Moncrieff To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Mercedes D. II engine Message-ID: <1999071418183371261@zetnet.co.uk> Hello there, Does anyone know where I might get a 1/72 scale 120-hp Mercedes D.II engine to go into my Fokker D.I? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:34:13 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <582bd47.24be4e45@aol.com> Here's a question for you old foggies, and I don't know the answer. About 15 or 20 years ago there was an episode on the old TV series, the TWILIGHT ZONE. Remember that? Anyway, in this one, a WW 1 airplane came out of the clouds and landed at a modern day air force landing field. Obviously, he did not know where he was. He had been in combat in WW1 when he went into a mysterious cloud, then came out in the twighlight zone of today. My question, in this scene what aircraft did he fly in the episode? I can't remember. May have been a Camel. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:33:21 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In case you were wondering... Message-ID: David: Excellent job on the D.III. I notice you metion the use of oil paints to do the plywood effect; can you be more specific? Please can you let me know the brand of paints, colours, and the technique(s) that you used. I have yet to attempt a plywood finish. Any suggestions from others on how to do plywood with water-based acrylics or other non-toxic stuff? Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, DAVID BURKE wrote: > In case anyone was wondering if I actually did anything that was On Topic, > the photos of my D.III are up in the gallery. See? I DO actually involve > myself in OT stuff! > > DB > > n.b. (OT) Dr.1 - 4 days from complete, Hannover CI.II (2 weeks from > complete), Nie.17 (on hold). ot: ahh, you don't wanna know. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:43:28 EDT From: Modelhound@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <911c238c.24be5070@aol.com> In a message dated 7/14/1999 1:39:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BEN8800@aol.com writes: << My question, in this scene what aircraft did he fly in the episode? I can't remember. May have been a Camel. Ben >> I sing: Ah yes, I remember it well. It was a Camel, NO, it was a modified Nieuport 28 with shorter wings and N struts between the wings. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:49:06 MDT From: Larry Neal To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <199907142049.OAA22018@tcwb467.col.hp.com> > > Here's a question for you old foggies, and I don't know the answer. > > About 15 or 20 years ago there was an episode on the old TV series, the > TWILIGHT ZONE. Remember that? Anyway, in this one, a WW 1 airplane came out > of the clouds and landed at a modern day air force landing field. Obviously, > he did not know where he was. He had been in combat in WW1 when he went into > a mysterious cloud, then came out in the twighlight zone of today. > > My question, in this scene what aircraft did he fly in the episode? I can't > remember. May have been a Camel. > > Ben Just saw that epsisode this(last?) weekend. the plane was a Nieuport 28. I guess it it looked right to the directer :) Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:51:30 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: In case you were wondering... Message-ID: <002901bece3a$a809eb80$48f710d1@dora9sprynet.com> Thanks Michael! As to the plywood finish, I used a yellow ochre on the fuselage (unprimed plastic), and brushed on a nice thin coat, but one that covered well. I let that dry from anywhere from 6 hours to overnight. I then come back and put small speckles of raw and burnt umber and sienna paints and then, using a wide, flat brush, I enlongated the speckles to represent the grain. Of course, this also lifts and actually 'rolls' the undercoat, and you will be surprised how nice the effect can get with practice. I used this technique with my Hannover floor and it is spectacular (I kid you not!). I also try to keep the panel lines clear of paint (oils are very thick, you know) so I could see where I needed to change the grain slightly to represent different panels. This effect is not very pronounced in the photos, but on the underside of the model, it is, and I am very pleased with it. I am using the same technique on the SSW. DIV and though it is very dark you can easily see the different panels. As to using acrylic paints for a wood effect, you can get tube acrylics at art supply stores, and you might try them. They dry quicker than the oils, so you will have to experiment with them and let me know how it's done! Dave B -----Original Message----- From: mkendix To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 3:42 PM Subject: Re: In case you were wondering... >David: > >Excellent job on the D.III. I notice you metion the use of oil paints to >do the plywood effect; can you be more specific? Please can you let me know >the brand of paints, colours, and the technique(s) that you used. I have >yet to attempt a plywood finish. > >Any suggestions from others on how to do plywood with water-based >acrylics or other non-toxic stuff? > >Michael > > >mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > >On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, DAVID BURKE wrote: > >> In case anyone was wondering if I actually did anything that was On Topic, >> the photos of my D.III are up in the gallery. See? I DO actually involve >> myself in OT stuff! >> >> DB >> >> n.b. (OT) Dr.1 - 4 days from complete, Hannover CI.II (2 weeks from >> complete), Nie.17 (on hold). ot: ahh, you don't wanna know. >> >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:41:18 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hobby Shops Message-ID: <378D03FE.431C8052@ionet.net> > While I was in Cedar Rapids, Iowa the folks at Box Car Hobbies kept me > well supplied with plastic and conversation. Here here. great place! > I am still becoming aware of some of the shops here in Dallas although I > have been here the longest. Try MAL hobbies in Irving. Ask Ed Sr. to see his hand carved, hand painted, rigged 1/100th models, he used to make these for Walter Beech to give away with each Stagger wing. This man is in his upper 80's and can cut balsa wood so thin you can read through it. His balsa supply came from the canceled Vought F-5U flap jack! He has a museum of kits too! Prices are retail but the visit is worth it. Land Sea and Air in Arlington VA on King street is fun old resale shop. His prices are above list but you can see kits you thought were myths And in the little town of Barbarton OH there is Ma & Pa Kittels, lots of new cars but they buy collections to so the occasional gold mine can be found too Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:19:19 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New Images Message-ID: <19990714.171919.-189715.0.mbittner@juno.com> I see that Al has added some new images to the site. Finally! Everybody can see Lance Krieg's work. He lives in Des Moines, and his work is breathtaking. Trust me - the pictures do not do his work justice. Nice D.III David! Great job. Is there more? I say move the Nie.17 to the front of the pile, and forget the rest. :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:21:38 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Fokker D.VII ailerons Message-ID: <19990714.172138.-191211.0.mbittner@juno.com> Does anybody know where I can find a good shot - either overhead, or stripped - of the aileron to wing joint? I need to figure out the hinges for the D.VII I'm working on. TIA! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html nb: Fokker D.VII using Rosemont's awesome early nose conversion nu: SPAD 11's on hold - now I need to figure out what's next ;-). HD.3, maybe? Hmmm... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:36:14 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: New Images Message-ID: <000e01bece49$509614a0$8932c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Matt! That really is a compliment from you, seeing as you know what scale it's in (although I looked at your outstanding work and noticed that one piece was - err - out of place, shall we say?). The Nie.17 is nice, but I am sort of tempted to do the Hanriot with that neat Italian scheme with all the stars on it. Or another Albatros or two. More stuff will come, but as the Nationals are coming up, and immediately after I'm going to the Northwest passage (around Greenland), it will be slow in coming. We'll see what happens. How about you? What's cooking on your table? - Which reminds me, Leonard was going to post a photo that I sent him of the very workbench that produced the Albatros. See if you can identify what is being worked on! DaveB/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:46:27 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/99 4:51:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, larryn@col.hp.com writes: << Just saw that epsisode this(last?) weekend. the plane was a Nieuport 28. I guess it it looked right to the directer :) Larry >> Well Laude! I never expected a reply to this one. Amazing. By the way, where did you see the Twilight recently? Thought it was not on anywhere. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:46:28 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/99 4:50:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Modelhound@aol.com writes: << I sing: Ah yes, I remember it well. It was a Camel, NO, it was a modified Nieuport 28 with shorter wings and N struts between the wings. Mike >> You guys are incredible. God, I thought I was the only old fart on the list. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:55:52 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-14 16:37:09 EDT, you write: << My question, in this scene what aircraft did he fly in the episode? I can't remember. May have been a Camel. >> It was the TallMantz Nieuport 28 - they were working in Hollywood, after all. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:42:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Hello Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD0411DB@mimhexch.mim.com.au> EtH, > > Eduard Nieuport 17 ! > > Cost LOTS more than the Testors. In Australia the Testors goes for about $12-$15 and the Eduard for about $23. For someone already familiar with WW1 modelling but coming back, I'd still tell them to make the Eduard. The joy at seeing just how far we've come will outweigh an extra $10 (about US$6) any day. OTOH someone new to WW1 stuff would be better off getting the struts and rigging thing started on something as simple as possible. I's sell them *my* half dozen unbuilt Testors Nie17 for A$5 each, as a service to the hobby ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E_Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:56:54 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-14 16:47:13 EDT, you write: << h yes, I remember it well. It was a Camel, NO, it was a modified Nieuport 28 with shorter wings and N struts between the wings. >> Like I said, the TallMantz Nieuport 28. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:30:53 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <378D2BBD.5F52@prodigy.net> WAlt, let me add my voice to the chorus of welcomes. My choices for good first kits in 1/72 Revell Dr.1 - Easy to find, inexpensive, lots of interesting schemes, very little rigging Revell D.VII - See above Airfix Sopwith Pup - Before the recent Toko kits, my choice as the best out of the box 1/72 WWI kit. A bit more rigging than the two Fokkers. Checklist of useful items: Liquid cement (I like Ambroid Pro Weld) Sanding paper (Testors sanding films work) Xacto knife, supply of #11 blades Putty (I use Bondo Spot Glazining Putty) Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:44:44 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Salamander Camo Photos Message-ID: <378D2EFC.3814@prodigy.net> A few photos of the camouflaged Salamanders... Bruce, Sopwith Fighters, p. 56. Head on view of E5431 from 12:00 high (The same photo is on page 49 of Sopwith Fighters in Action.) Robertson, WWI British Aeroplane Colurs and Markings, p.17. Three photos of Salamaders (one the same as above) Colors of a 1918 camouflage test from CIM733 (dated 3 Sep 18) - Dark Purple Earth - Green - Light Earth - Light Green Grey - Black Additional tests were carried out on Salamanders F6607 and F6608 in late 1919 - early 1920. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:11:20 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Workbench Pic Message-ID: <378e34b7.5718473@legend.firstsaga.com> I just added a picture of Dave Burke's workbench to the site. You have to take a look at this one.... Len www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:18:57 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Workbench Pic Message-ID: <378f36c2.6242334@legend.firstsaga.com> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:10:38 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >I just added a picture of Dave Burke's workbench to the site. You have >to take a look at this one.... > >Len >www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/fof_site.htm After looking at Dave's Alb D.III I am wondering what other gems are buried on his workbench. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:26:31 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ring's_BMW_letter_Nr.4_from_the_front_?= Message-ID: <199907150131.UAA10825@ind.cioe.com> Hi all,
  Here is G=F6ring's letter Nr.4, dated 1st of September, continuing to praise the BMW and detailing tactical advantages made possible by the superior power.  More to come.



Jagdgeschwader Fhr. v. Richtofen           &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;     O.U.1.9.1918.

Br.Nr. 1892/I18

Kogenluft Kofl. 2


            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =              Tactical report.
            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;        Lately, the Geschwader, (group), has succeeded in regaining complete domination of the sky.  The enemy is much more on the defensive and is usually on the other side of the lines and at great altitude.  The superiority of the Fokker D VII with the BMW IIIa motor has shown quickly.  We have succeeded several times in surprising the enemy by staying low, and as we approach, fly closely to him, then, suddenly apply "over" gas throttle, quickly climb over, and thus, gain the better tactical position.  Likewise, since the Geschwader, (group), was equipped with the BMW engines, it has been easier, to climb and catch the enemy squadron groups.  The Fokker D VII with the BMW, is equal, to all other aircraft types at diving ability, and superior to the 300 H.P. Spads.  It must be reitteriated again and again for the fastest introduction and supply of the BMW motors, therefore enabling other Stafflen, (squadrons), to increase their ability to shoot down enemy aircraft.
            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;     gez. Goering
            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             Oblt. and Geschwader, (group), commander.

------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:25:48 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Images Message-ID: <19990714.202552.-11935.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:39:43 -0400 (EDT) "DAVID BURKE" writes: > That really is a compliment from you, seeing as you know what > scale it's > in (although I looked at your outstanding work and noticed that one > piece > was - err - out of place, shall we say?). The Nie.17 is nice, but I > am sort > of tempted to do the Hanriot with that neat Italian scheme with all > the > stars on it. Or another Albatros or two. More stuff will come, but > as the > Nationals are coming up, and immediately after I'm going to the > Northwest > passage (around Greenland), it will be slow in coming. We'll see > what > happens. How about you? What's cooking on your table? - Which > reminds me, > Leonard was going to post a photo that I sent him of the very > workbench that > produced the Albatros. See if you can identify what is being worked > on! Although I'm usually the cause of the "scale wars", it really doesn't matter when it comes to WW1 (is everybody listening? :-). Any scale is the right scale. However, I still think the rest of you are blind. ;-) FWIW, the Nie.17 is the nicest of the bunch. From whatever kit maker. Period. Gee, you think I like Nieuports, or anything? :-) Currently I'm working on a Revell Fokker D.VII using Rosemont's "early nose" conversion. It will be finished as Jacobs' as it appears - fuzzily - in the Jasta 7 line up in the D.VII Anthology, Part 1. After that, who's to say. I have a few off topics I would like to finish, and then either a slew of Nieuports (once I finish the conversions, right Mike F.?), and Hanriot HD.3, ot something else that strikes my fancy. :-) FWIW, I was forced at gunpoint to build that Balloon Scale Triplane. Yup, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:30:13 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Workbench Pic Message-ID: <19990714.203014.-11935.5.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:10:56 -0400 (EDT) lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) writes: > I just added a picture of Dave Burke's workbench to the site. You > have > to take a look at this one.... ARRRGGGHHH!!! BURN HIM...BU-UU-URN HIM!! Heathen. :-) Even though there's a Fokker on your table. As your punishment, you will build and correct the Glencoe Albatros D.III - unless we want him to build a Merlin Friedrichshafen! Bwahahahahaha... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1707 **********************