WWI Digest 1695 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Future of the Hobby by "Len Smith" 2) Re: Future of the Hobby by Albatrosdv@aol.com 3) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by KarrArt@aol.com 4) 260 messages! / Camels by "Sandy Adam" 5) Re: HiTech Breguet by Mike Fletcher 6) Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ring=20G=F6=F6f=20=DCp?= by Pedro e Francisca Soares 7) Re: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by Matthew E Bittner 8) RE: 260 messages! / Camels by "Landon, James D" 9) FW: help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) by "Landon, James D" 10) for Ivan Subrt by "Sandy Adam" 11) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 12) Re: FW: help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) by David & Carol Fletcher 13) Metrop Caudron G.III by Brent & Tina Theobald 14) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by bucky@ptdprolog.net 15) by Dave Watts 16) MAC Guns by "David Vosburgh" 17) =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ring_G=F6=F6f_=DCp_Nr.2?= by Dave Watts 18) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by "David Vosburgh" 19) Horsepower rating by Dave Watts 20) Re: Horsepower rating by Ernest Thomas 21) D.VII tail by Matthew E Bittner 22) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: Horsepower rating by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by "Bob Pearson" 25) Re: D.VII tail by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 26) Houston, Texas Hobby Shops? by "Jim Pliml" 27) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by Zulis@aol.com 28) Re: Horsepower rating by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by KarrArt@aol.com 30) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by Albatrosdv@aol.com 31) RE: 260 messages! / Camels by Shane Weier 32) RE: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by Shane Weier 33) Re: D.VII tail by "Lee J Mensinger" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:01:43 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Future of the Hobby Message-ID: <000d01beca2d$04b89fa0$f05c08c3@default> Tom wrote > >> > There is one point: kids bought back Swing, and many like Jazz, thank God!! > > Not so, Tom. Swing has been lurking in the background all the time, always ready to be "found" by anyone with the sense to appreciate it. Rather like WW1 modelling when you come to think of it! "many like Jazz"---- kids aren't all that bad, are they? Happy modelling (and listening) Len. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:07:53 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Future of the Hobby Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-09 13:05:26 EDT, you write: << > Not so, Tom. Swing has been lurking in the background all the time, always ready to be "found" by anyone with the sense to appreciate it. Rather like WW1 modelling when you come to think of it! >> Of course swing has been around, but when Dizzyland has "Swing Night" every Friday this summer with Big Bands, and a special evening ticket for dancing only, and advertises the hell out the fact, you can see it's not "lurking" anymore - certainly not out here in the Lower Left Corner. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:22:57 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/9/99 5:19:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << > > Want to se some miniature barbed wire? > E. >> > > What are you tryin' to say sailor? I was just axin if you wanted to hear about my technique for making miniature barbed wire. E. >> Well, yeah! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:16:58 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: 260 messages! / Camels Message-ID: <027301beca3f$a13c8140$1de8b094@sandyada> I went away for a two day conference, came back - 260 messages!!!!! Guinness book of records? BTW, Al has kindly put some of my long-promised Camels on the Model Galleries if anybody a) wants to see how the BM kit turns out, or b) wants to have checks swimming in front of their eyes!! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 12:24:23 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HiTech Breguet Message-ID: <37864C67.D4535822@mars.ark.com> There is one in the Thai Air Force Museum as well as the one at MAE I'm not sure if it is original or a replica though. I have some detailed german drawings on my web site as well. http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/Nperiod.html -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:54:17 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ring=20G=F6=F6f=20=DCp?= Message-ID: <37865368.23CFBF1@mail.telepac.pt> Dave Watts wrote: > Sorry for the transmission garble on that Göring letter, I hope you were > able to make it out anyway No problem Dave, juts picked up my old ENIGMA machine. ;-) Seriously now, thanks for posting that, I, for one, would like to see the rest. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:32:22 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <19990709.153421.-99529.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:44:59 -0400 (EDT) GRBroman@aol.com writes: > We are kind of off the beaten path, but with guys like Matt, Bob > Horton, Bob > Sheldon,Greg VanWyngarden, Steve Hustad and a pretty substantial WW > I > building group here inthe upper midwest we probably have a higher > than > average WW I content at local shows. Even our local show had more > WW I > entries than the Regional. Now if we could only talk Matt into > showing up! > Wouldn't that be great, having to do splits in WWI aircraft. Glen Hey, I wanted to go. It's SWMBO that said no. Plus, don't forget about Lance Krieg!! Amazing models everybody on this list must see, even if he is a Dark Jedi... :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 15:15:38 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 260 messages! / Camels Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A2FC7@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> <> NOT EVEN CLOSE!! When I came back after the 4th I had something like 407 or something. But I've got it whittled down to 281 already. Jim Landon, Staff Engineer, Lockheed Martin Astronautics Div. Launch Systems Dept., Electrical Systems Design Group Phone: (303) 971-1038, Fax: (303) 977-9738 or 977-8323 E-mail: James.D.Landon@lmco.com WWW: http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/landoni/index.html > ---------- > From: Sandy Adam > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Friday, July 9, 1999 1:18 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: 260 messages! / Camels > > I went away for a two day conference, came back - 260 messages!!!!! > Guinness book of records? > > BTW, Al has kindly put some of my long-promised Camels on the Model > Galleries if anybody a) wants to see how the BM kit turns out, or b) wants > to have checks swimming in front of their eyes!! > Sandy > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 16:06:43 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'WWI modelers list'" Subject: FW: help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A2FCC@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> I replied to this off-line (see below). Did anybody else write to him? He sent me a photo of him and his wife holding his SE5a. Looks like about 4 ft wingspan. The SE5a, not his wife. Turns me on, but probably not you Mr. Tiny Planes guys . Jim, only 281 more messages to read > ---------- > From: Landon, James D > Sent: Friday, July 9, 1999 8:31 AM > To: 'fajury@andinet.com' > Subject: RE: help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) > > Re: < of the SE5a. It flies beautifully but it is not trully scale. I wonder if > you know who i can get a set of plans for a 1/4 scale SE5a model, snce it > has been impossible for me to get one here. ... Thanks for your interest. > - Juan David Mejia>> > > Hello Juan, > > I am sorry I don't think I can help you, but I wanted to establish contact > with you anyway. I am new to building model airplanes as an adult ... I > built a few when I was a boy ... am 55 now. I am very interested in WWI > biplanes, so when you said you have a 1/6 SE5a it really grabbed my > attention!! > > Do you have pictures of your SE5a? I would love to see it. Was it a kit? > Is it gas powered? Radio Control? Do you want to sell it? I have photos > I took of a real restored SE5a that appeared at a local airport open house > this Spring. > > I am currently building a 1/12 balsa and tissue model of the American WWI > trainer, the Thomas Morse S4C Scout. You can see my progress on my web > site, starting at this page: > > http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/titanman/page6.html > > Jim Landon, Staff Engineer, Lockheed Martin Astronautics Div. > Launch Systems Dept., Electrical Systems Design Group > Phone: (303) 971-1038, Fax: (303) 977-9738 or 977-8323 > E-mail: James.D.Landon@lmco.com > WWW: http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/landoni/index.html > > ---------- > From: Allan Wright > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Friday, July 9, 1999 6:50 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) > > List, from a fellow non-list modeler. Please add his address to any > replies. > > Thanks, > Allan > > Forwarded message: > > From fajury@andinet.com Thu Jul 8 22:14:51 1999 > > From: fajury@andinet.com > > To: aew@unh.edu > > Subject: help!!!!!!!!! > > X-Mailer: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.1; Mac_68000) > > Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:15:36 -0700 > > Message-ID: <19990709041536.AAA101631@kepler.andinet.com@localhost> > > > > I am a scale modeller from Bogota, colombia, and I have a 1/6 model of > the SE5a. It flies beautifully but it is not trully scale. I wonder if you > know who i can get a set of plans for a 1/4 scale SE5a model, snce it has > been impossible for me to get one here. > > Thanks for your interest. > > > > Juan David Mejia > > > > > ========================================================================== > ===== > Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' > blunders! > University of New > Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: > wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu > ========================================================================== > ===== > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:16:36 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: for Ivan Subrt Message-ID: <002801beca58$b70d7d80$2ce8b094@sandyada> Please forgive me sending this to the whole list but my direct messages to Ivan never seem to get through. Ivan, I sent your parcel off by air on the 1st, so it should be with you about now. Please let me know if it arrives safely (or not - within the next day or two) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 07:18:13 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: >Paul could you turn on the word wrap in your Email editor? >Thanks, Cyg Sorry, but what you see is what you get. It word wraps as standard, and adjusting it is not an option of this program. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 14:49:04 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW: help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) Message-ID: <37866E4F.3E44@mars.ark.com> Landon, James D wrote: "I replied to this off-line (see below). Did anybody else write to him?" I did, although I had transmission problems, so I'm not sure the message got through. I have some plans from the January, 1948, "Air Trails" which are the best SE-5A drawings I've seen - not the usual "Boys' Own Annual" stuff. I'll try contacting him again if I don't hear anything soon. I suppose I should ask if anyone else wants copies of the drawings, since they are now 51 years old (clear of copyright???)... Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 18:09:13 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Metrop Caudron G.III Message-ID: <37869D38.838D0621@airmail.net> The big caudron is on Ebay. $175 with only three hours to go! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=126192576 Too rich for my blood right now. I just [over]spent this months modeling budget too! Brent -- ************************************* They’ve got us surrounded, the poor bastards! ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:44:05 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <37869755.7EAF6011@ptdprolog.net> Mike wrote: > How about some ideas of how everyone deals with these kind of > emergencies/tragic events? Any good > "repair" tips out there? Lately, I have been blessed with 2 of these accidents. After trying 3 times to get the struts right on the Hanriot, Some unmade models(what???) fell off the shelf and mayhem ensued. I took it as a sign from God to move onto something elkse for awhile. By the way, I got the same sign a few months ago with the Dutch Strutter after the dog hit it and broke it all apart. I'm beginning to wonder if these things might be subconsciously planned when I get frustrated??? Mike Muth nb: vonHantelman's Fokker D-VII & Operation Torch Wildcat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:57:50 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Message-ID: <199907100100.UAA21898@ind.cioe.com> Hi all,

  My fingers are crossed.  I hope this doesn't get garbled.

  Here is the second installment.  It sounds like the BMW factory has made a good friend and found a supporter at the front.  More to come!
Best Wishes,
Dave Watts

PS: This is just as much fun for me as it is for you, since I am translating these letters as we "speak", and I don't know what's in them.  Although I think you are getting the general theme of these letters......."We must have more BMW powered D.VIIs!"  It makes you realize how good the combination proved to be and/or how tough it was getting for the Germans to deal with the newest allied aircraft.



Jagdgeschwader Frhr. v. Richthofen O.U.2.8.1918
Br.Nr. 2053/II

Reports on the BMW IIIa motor.
................................................

The BMW IIIa engine continues to perform splendidly.  Apart from some small deficiencies, (which are already remedied), nothing has turned out to be unfavorable.  Its superiority, as compared to the other engines, (including the enemy's), is proven daily.  As a rule, the "over" gas throttle position is not used under 3000 meters.  Not only have we been operating in the "over" gas throttle position almost constantly throughout aerial engagement, but also at low altitude, and without any damage to the engine; (only stronger vibrating becomes apparent).  Recently a pilot, who was driven down by some Spads near a balloon and had lost his orientation, flew for over a half hour with the throttle in the "over" gas position and the motor at full revs (1500-1600rpm) at a height of 100 meters pursued by the Spads.  It was superior in rate to the Spads.  The engine had operated smoothly and had not suffered in the slightest.  Again the Geschwader, (group), requests it for immediate and extensive delivery and asks for the immediate start of licensed production in as many factories as possible.
gez. G=F6ring=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
Oblt. u. Geschwader-Kommandeur.


------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:04:35 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: MAC Guns Message-ID: <001201beca70$2dc53780$1a7433cf@Pvosburg> Thanks Bill, Mike, Pedro, and Skippy for responses on my o/t French machine gun question. The general consensus seems to be that they were MAC 7.5mm types.. I was kind of hoping they'd have been Lewises and I wouldn't have to ask this question, but I should've known better... does anyone have any references on this type of gun or its mounting? If so please respond off-list. Thanks again, DV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:16:23 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ring_G=F6=F6f_=DCp_Nr.2?= Message-ID: <199907100119.UAA22921@ind.cioe.com> Hi all, I almost got it 100%. The only foul up was the name at the bottom of the letter should have read, "gez. Göring". Best, Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:26:58 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <003501beca73$4e720e60$1a7433cf@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 4:04 AM Subject: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Bob reports: >Just had a noise behind me, followed by a loud crash. My 18" tall stuffed >'Marvin The Martian' gave my Smer Dr.I a push off the top of my bookcase Was he carrying the Alludium Q-35 Explosive Space Modulator when he did it? Regards, DV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:28:24 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: Horsepower rating Message-ID: <199907100131.UAA23496@ind.cioe.com> Hi all, This is a little off base for models, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me the ways in which horsepower is configured by the following different countries; USA Britain Germany France I'm always looking into the German motors, and the reports on them, and I thought there could be a difference in horsepower ratings for the same motor, depending on which country had performed the testing. I recall that BHP, (British Horse Power), for a motor was always lower than US horsepower ratings, and wondered if it would have been the same during the war years. If the Germans say a Mercedes is rated at 160 PS, (HP), and then that motor is tested by the British or French when they capture a Fokker D.VII, (for example D.VII 368/18 in June of 1918), would they each come up with a different rating? Thank you for the clarification, Best, Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:44:30 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Horsepower rating Message-ID: <3786A57E.519B@bellsouth.net> Dave Watts wrote: I recall that > BHP, (British Horse Power), for a motor was always lower than US horsepower > ratings, Maybe Britain has more powerful horses? :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:54:53 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: D.VII tail Message-ID: <19990709.205453.-101361.2.mbittner@juno.com> It appears that the tail skid area was left "open" on the D.VII. Is this correct? Any good photo's of this area which can be replicated in plastic? TIA! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:00:06 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <761fba11.24b80326@aol.com> In a message dated 7/9/99 5:46:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bucky@ptdprolog.net writes: << Some unmade models(what???) fell off the shelf and mayhem ensued. I took it as a sign from God to move onto something elkse for awhile. >> The Whittier earthquake of '87 took out my U.S.S. Pennsylvania (the big revell) that I had spent months converting to her Fall of 1944 fit. It was sign to move out of ships into serious WW I aviation. (the Orc on my new update also was severely wounded in the same quake- a big ol' Akai reel-to-reel tape machine fell on it. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:15:12 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Horsepower rating Message-ID: <6f95d4fc.24b806b0@aol.com> In a message dated 7/9/99 6:28:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, davew@wattstrainshop.com writes: << I'm always looking into the German motors, and the reports on them, and I thought there could be a difference in horsepower ratings for the same motor, depending on which country had performed the testing. I recall that BHP, (British Horse Power), for a motor was always lower than US horsepower ratings, and wondered if it would have been the same during the war years. >> I'll have to find the issue of WW I Aero that has the numbers, but German horsepower was a completely different unit. What I'm curious about is the nominal 160hp Gnome rotary. I've read in several places that when these thing are run up on modern test equipment they're really putting out around 300hp. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:51:51 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <199907100307.UAA15808@mail.rapidnet.net> >>Just had a noise behind me, followed by a loud crash. My 18" tall stuffed >>'Marvin The Martian' gave my Smer Dr.I a push off the top of my bookcase > > Was he carrying the Alludium Q-35 Explosive Space Modulator when he did it? Nope, just the ray-gun, but he did leave K-9 behind to keep watch. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: D.VII tail Message-ID: <199907100323.UAA26898@compass.OregonVOS.net> Matt writes: > >It appears that the tail skid area was left "open" on the D.VII. Is this >correct? Any good photo's of this area which can be replicated in >plastic? TIA! You mean the triangular opening on the underside of the fuselage? Because of its location, its obviously not an area which was photo- graphed often - indeed, I can't find a single photo. But the uncovered area is pretty clearly shown on the datafile drawings. The opening itself is pretty straight forward while the skid itself is no mechanical wonder - just a pivot at the rear vertical with the skid continuing up towards the top of the fuselage. There are some springs and attachment doohickies to the skid up towards the top of the fuselage but they are so far up that they'd be lost and mostly non-visible in anything smaller than say 1/4 scale. I'd think you'd be suffering from a servere case of anal-retentive AMS were you determined to model those! :-) Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:37:33 -0500 From: "Jim Pliml" To: "WWI Post" Subject: Houston, Texas Hobby Shops? Message-ID: <00ca01beca85$8c6bf8e0$7c4ae5d0@jfpliml> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01BECA5B.A2928AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The subject line pretty much sums it up. Does anybody know of any good = hobby shops in Houston,Tx. that have a good bit of on topic goodies? ( = books too)=20 = Jim Pliml jfpliml@camalott.com ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01BECA5B.A2928AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 The subject line pretty much sums = it up. Does=20 anybody know of any good hobby shops in Houston,Tx. that have a = good bit of=20 on topic goodies? ( books too) 
 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; =20 Jim Pliml  jfpliml@camalott.com
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Dave Z ps - the thread, now dwindling, about the future of WWI modelling etc gets my vote for best of the year thus far.... some great food for thought there..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:06:27 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Horsepower rating Message-ID: In a message dated 7/9/99 6:28:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, davew@wattstrainshop.com writes: << If the Germans say a Mercedes is rated at 160 PS, (HP), and then that motor is tested by the British or French when they capture a Fokker D.VII, (for example D.VII 368/18 in June of 1918), would they each come up with a different rating? Thank you for the clarification, Best, Dave Watts >> I found what I was looking for in WW I Aero number 143 Feb 94 page82. According to this a German PS (pferdestarke) is .986hp. The only thing is...which HP? Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:41:04 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: In a message dated 7/9/99 8:41:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Zulis@aol.com writes: << Robert writes: << (the Orc on my new update also was severely wounded in the same quake- a big ol' Akai reel-to-reel tape machine fell on it. >> An Orc being bested by a tape recorder? If word of this gets out, he may lose his membership card in the brotherhood of Orcdom.... >> Perhaps not as Frazettaoidally dramatic, but a couple of weeks ago, some kid was visiting and took out the landing gear on my Copper State Fokker D.V. It's fixable, but still............ Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:45:50 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <2bd88ee.24b829fe@aol.com> Tonight I was sitting there, reading in my living room, when the lamp decided to topple. Into the model shelves!!! Fortunately, it was far enough away that it brushed one - that was enough to turn my Aeroclub Gauntlet into a major repair project, but it coulda been worse - missed one of the WW1 shelves by 2 inches. Needless to say, I have re-arranged things so that if it happens again it will break as it hits the floor a good foot from the shelves. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:26:43 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 260 messages! / Camels Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD0411B5@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Sandy, > I went a way for a two day c > onferenc e, came b ack - 260 > messages !!!!! Gui nness boo > k of rec ords? BTW , Al has > kindly put som > e of m y long- > promis ed Camel > s on t he Model > Gallerie s if anybo dy a) wan > ts to se e how the BM kit tu > rns out, or b) want s to have > checks s wimming in front of > their ey es!! Sandy It's a fine kit, and yo urs do it it gre at justic e, mat e. More !! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:32:43 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD0411B6@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dave > As for me - no earthquakes or rug rats, but I did flatten a > Toko Nieuport and > a Revell DVII a few months ago when some large books decided > to lean/topple the wrong way. Books are the bane of this hobby. When not taking me away from the workbench, or adding to the amount that "needs" to be done to get things "right" they're more dagerous than the Lufstreitkrafte. Case in point, my first "scratchbuilt" aircraft in 1/48, a DH-2 which used only the much modified gondola from the SMER kit, struck down in its prime by Volume 1 of the Encyclopedia Brittannica. Now I could understand it had it been, for example, a red Fokker, but this f*kker was British. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:40:10 -0500 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, "Lee Mensinger" Subject: Re: D.VII tail Message-ID: <3786DCBA.FC782D09@wireweb.net> At the moment I do not have access to a D-VII but there is an E-V/D-VIII fairly handy and I will see if I can get a picture of that tail skid. It is at present sitting up about a foot+ a little off the floor on a four wheel dolly. If I wear old clothes I can do it. Camera will work to 19.5 inches. I have photos from the side already. Wasn't thinking about the underside at all. Patience folks we will do it. Lee Bill Shatzer wrote: > Matt writes: > > > >It appears that the tail skid area was left "open" on the D.VII. Is this > >correct? Any good photo's of this area which can be replicated in > >plastic? TIA! > > You mean the triangular opening on the underside of the fuselage? > > Because of its location, its obviously not an area which was photo- > graphed often - indeed, I can't find a single photo. But the uncovered > area is pretty clearly shown on the datafile drawings. > > The opening itself is pretty straight forward while the skid itself > is no mechanical wonder - just a pivot at the rear vertical with > the skid continuing up towards the top of the fuselage. There are > some springs and attachment doohickies to the skid up towards the > top of the fuselage but they are so far up that they'd be lost > and mostly non-visible in anything smaller than say 1/4 scale. > > I'd think you'd be suffering from a servere case of anal-retentive > AMS were you determined to model those! :-) > > Cheers and all, > > -- > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > > "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." > -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1695 **********************