WWI Digest 1694 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by "Bob Pearson" 2) Re: They Fought for the Sky by peter crow 3) Re: Off-Topic: French M/Gs by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 4) N.17 and 28 wings by Ernest Thomas 5) Re: new junk by Ernest Thomas 6) RE: was: new Junk - now RK's great new things by Shane Weier 7) RE: Eyewitness books wasRe: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by Shane Weier 8) RE: They Fought for the Sky by Shane Weier 9) Re: was: new Junk - now RK's great new things by Ernest Thomas 10) Re: N.17 and 28 wings by KarrArt@aol.com 11) Re: N.17 and 28 wings by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 12) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by "roguerpj" 13) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 14) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by "roguerpj" 15) Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by "Bob Pearson" 16) Re: N.17 and 28 wings by Mike Fletcher 17) Re: N.17 and 28 wings by Mike Fletcher 18) Re: HiTech Breguet by DavidL1217@aol.com 19) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by Matthew E Bittner 20) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by "Brad Gossen" 21) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by Scottfking@aol.com 22) Re: Off-Topic: French M/Gs by Scottfking@aol.com 23) Re: N.17 and 28 wings by Ernest Thomas 24) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by Ernest Thomas 25) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by Ernest Thomas 26) Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by mkendix 27) help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) by Allan Wright 28) Re: Polly S by Allan Wright 29) Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 by "Mike" 30) Re: WWI U-Boats (Was: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why?) by "K. Hagerup" 31) Re: Lohner L (Was: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why?) by "K. Hagerup" 32) Re: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by GRBroman@aol.com 33) Re: Lohner L ... was Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by "Lance Krieg" 34) Re: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? by GRBroman@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:03:31 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <199907090416.VAA13246@mail.rapidnet.net> Michael writes . . . >> I was at a bookstore recently. Shelves of WW2 books, but only one or >> two on the Great War. > > There's a huge literature out there but as you can imagine, it's less > popular. I compiled a bibliography of several hundered books if you're > interested. Not too much on the air war since that was something of a > sideshow in WWI. Dunno about that ..... I have 2 1/2 bookcases full of WW1 aviation and half of one devoted to WW1 land - compared to only three shelves of WW2 air. Most of these were bought in my first two-three years of serious searching and were bought through mail order, mail auction and second-hand shops . . I figure the average price to be around $25, although some were closer to $100, while others may have been $5. The books are out there, they just take some finding. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: They Fought for the Sky Message-ID: <19990709040657.16372.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane & Lorna Jenkins wrote: > big snip< > It only takes one small step and then one day you > wake up to find > yourself surrounded by reference material, kits and > talking to a whole > bunch of other "loonies" ;-) > > I LOVE IT!!!!!! > > Lorna Your a lucky man Shane...;-) P.Crow _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off-Topic: French M/Gs Message-ID: <199907090410.VAA17852@compass.OregonVOS.net> David Vosburgh writes > >Does anyone have any idea what kind of weapon would be mounted on the gun ring in the >observer's cockpit of the interwar Les Mureaux 117? In the Heller kit there's something >with a drum magazine which looks vaguely like an inverted Lewis... I know that the British >were still using the Lewis at that time in their GP machines, and the French would >presumably have had stocks of the same weapons left over from the war. My references say "two flexible 7.5mm MAC machine guns in the rear cockpit" for the Mureaux 115/117s which were still operational in 1939. On the other hand, those references also indicate that many other French aircraft were still operational with 7.7mm Lewis guns at that date - so it is certainly possible that the Mureaux were equipped with Lewises at sometime or another during their service lives. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:37:59 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: N.17 and 28 wings Message-ID: <37857CA7.4424@bellsouth.net> Hi all, While waiting for the silver paint to dry on my 17, I got to thinking about these wings. I've heard all sorts of tales about the 28 having a problem with losing it's fabric off the wings, but not too much about the same problems with 17's. What was going on here? Was the 28 wing just covered with sub-standard materials? Workmanship? Any ideas? E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:38:56 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new junk Message-ID: <37857CE0.2471@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > Shucks, I might as well take these few precious moments of typing time and > announce that after 231 years, we finally have a bunch of new(to the web) > junk on my site, including a tiny bit of on-topic stuff. Appraiser Amok? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:44:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: was: new Junk - now RK's great new things Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD0411B0@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom, > (O.S. SOUND: wild APPLAUSE from the CROWD) Hollyweird. BYO FX Shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:58:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eyewitness books wasRe: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD0411B1@mimhexch.mim.com.au> RK, > DK is out of London. Alfred Knopf has the US publishing > rights, and Random House the distribution. Cool, then Unions notwithstanding, I have a chance of finding them Shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:14:32 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: They Fought for the Sky Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD0411B2@mimhexch.mim.com.au> > > It only takes one small step and then one day you > > wake up to find > > yourself surrounded by reference material, kits and > > talking to a whole > > bunch of other "loonies" ;-) > > > > I LOVE IT!!!!!! > > > > Lorna > > Your a lucky man Shane...;-) > > P.Crow He means Shane The Younger (tm).... ...who is indeed. Shane The Older ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:46:35 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: was: new Junk - now RK's great new things Message-ID: <37857EAB.4C22@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > Hollyweird. BYO FX simcg! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:22:01 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: N.17 and 28 wings Message-ID: <1a76e852.24b6e0f9@aol.com> In a message dated 7/8/99 9:39:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Hi all, While waiting for the silver paint to dry on my 17, I got to thinking about these wings. I've heard all sorts of tales about the 28 having a problem with losing it's fabric off the wings, but not too much about the same problems with 17's. What was going on here? Was the 28 wing just covered with sub-standard materials? Workmanship? Any ideas? E. >> going purely from a foggy memory 'cause I'm too lazy to go look it up, I seem to remember that it was just bad design- there was this big hairy seam in the fabric placed precisely at the point of most stress. The seam was moved a couple of inches (ok, well, really a several centimeters) and the problem was solved but by then it was already getting to be an outdated airplane so nobody cared. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:28:31 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: N.17 and 28 wings Message-ID: <199907090528.WAA04065@compass.OregonVOS.net> Ernest Thomas writes: >Hi all, > >While waiting for the silver paint to dry on my 17, I got to thinking >about these wings. I've heard all sorts of tales about the 28 having a >problem with losing it's fabric off the wings, but not too much about >the same problems with 17's. What was going on here? Was the 28 wing >just covered with sub-standard materials? Workmanship? >Any ideas? The fabric shedding problem was apparently confined to diving maneuvers. I suspect the greater power and more aerodynamic shape of the Nieu. 28 allowed it to obtain a greater speed in a dive than the Nieu. 17. Greater speed equals more stress on the airframe and the fabric and thus a greater likelihood of failure. But, jest thinking out loud. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:38:00 -0500 From: "roguerpj" To: Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <011d01bec9d5$9751f3a0$05f99ed0@robjohn.swdata.com> Thank you that is what is was just thinking. I am 30, bear with me there is a point. I did not start to be interested in building a WWI kit tell I was in collage and started to study Russian History. Up in till then WWI won reading consisted of a what seems like a statement of the U.S. supplying some war material to the Allies in Europe, A boon in the economy, and a nebulous mention of some service men fighting in 1918. I had a Great Uncle the may or may not have fought in the war. I don't know becouse every time it is brought up at family gatherings the only thing people ember is him talking about the girls in France and my Great Aunt (who met him after the war) hitting him with her cane for talking about it. Granted I have always had a interest in building a WWI plane but the available resource and reference that interested me as I grew up didn't include enough about the war, so my mind went else ware for stimulation. It took looking at some thing form a new point of view to shake my Americanized view of the war. WWII just seemed more important so I started with the Tanks and Airplanes from that war becouse, the resources for these subjects were what I new. rob johnson -----Original Message----- From: DAVID BURKE +ADw-dora9+AEA-sprynet.com+AD4- To: Multiple recipients of list +ADw-wwi+AEA-pease1.sr.unh.edu+AD4- Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? +AD4-This thread has been very interesting from many points of view, and as a +AD4-soon-to-be-pursuing-the-Master's -in-History, an educational discussion. +AD4-Please allow me to throw in my untarnished two cent's worth as to why WWI +AD4-isn't popular. +AD4- +AD4- First, as far as I know, there are no more living WWI veterans, or +AD4-damned few if there are. The oral first-person history is gone. Also, the +AD4-Great War was not easy to understand. That includes why it happened, where +AD4-it was fought, the chronology of the War - it takes a bit of learning. I +AD4-could say that I find it ironic that with the recent hubub in Yugoslavia +AD4-that WWI wasn't more the rage - even with that dumb hillbilly in the White +AD4-House telling us over and over about how this was the area the WWI started +AD4-in. +AD4- +AD4- I like the idea fronted about how the weapons (airplanes) looked fragile +AD4-and almost antithetical to warfare. That may be, but if the person with +AD4-that viewpoint is then told of pilots heading to earth on fire, with no +AD4-means of escape... Hmmm. My point is getting diluted. Laypeople have an +AD4-impression of WWI that includes brightly colored planes, overt chivalry in +AD4-the air, maybe a trench or two, and Tommy helmets - and can't forget the +AD4-spiked German counterparts+ACE- Tell someone of the horrors of trench warfare, +AD4-and they'll look at you like you were crazy. Same with the American Civil +AD4-War. Tell them of pickett's charge, and that what the TBS documentary +AD4-showed was merely a percentage of the soldiers that stepped out into the +AD4-field and were mowed down, and the mind boggles. WWI was a dirty, filthy +AD4-war that demolished a good part of Europe. But nobody chooses to remember. +AD4- +AD4- I was at a bookstore recently. Shelves of WW2 books, but only one or +AD4-two on the Great War. Why? Can Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg really be +AD4-that influential? I think not. There are many living WW2 vets, and the +AD4-appeal of the technological advances of that war are closer to the living +AD4-memory. It is easier to understand: there were easy to define villains, and +AD4-ready-made heroes. It was the first big war to involve U.S. soil since +AD4-1812. You don't have to be too smart to get WW2. WWI is a completely +AD4-different story. +AD4- +AD4- And that is why I intend to concentrate on Military History for my +AD4-Masters and especially WWI, as it was truly the Great War. +AD4- +AD4- DB +AD4- +AD4- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <199907090628.XAA12820@compass.OregonVOS.net> Matt writes: >I was turned on to WW1 on a lark. I too was becoming bored with the >1/48th jets I was working on, so I went "in search of" at a local hobby >store. First I saw the Supermodel Fiat Cr.32 (I think) and bought that, >which turned me onto bipes. You actually -built- the Supermodel Cr.32? The only model I've ever seen with locating -bumps- rather than locating holes for the interplane struts? Having tried this particular kit no less than three times (and coming up empty each time!), I am amazed anyone has actually built this kit - especially as a first biplane attempt. Had I started my biplane career on that particular kit, I'd be building Emmy Won Oh Thingies today! I am truly in awe! :-) Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:48:10 -0500 From: "roguerpj" To: Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <015601bec9d7$02d7c7c0$05f99ed0@robjohn.swdata.com> You forgot about all the wonderful practice at weathering technique. Mud, rust, dents, rivets, scuff marks, oil stains etc...........:) rob johnson -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas +ADw-ethomas6+AEA-bellsouth.net+AD4- To: Multiple recipients of list +ADw-wwi+AEA-pease1.sr.unh.edu+AD4- Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? +AD4-mkendix wrote: +AD4- +AD4APg- So, if I decided to do armor, I'd have to learn a whole new +AD4APg- set of techniques, perhaps buy some more tools and defintely acquire more +AD4APg- references. +AD4- +AD4-As someone who's built a tank or two, it's a worthwhile endeavor. The +AD4-techniques are pretty much the same(seams are seams, paint runs are +AD4-paint runs), the tools are the same(unless you're gonna start doing +AD4-homemade zimmeritt). You would need more references if you're gonna let +AD4-AMS kick in, but you also might learn a few new tricks that you've never +AD4-thought of. You may learn a new way of looking at modeling problems. +AD4-At the very least, you'll get lots of practise painting wheels. +AD4-And many of these new skills can transfer to your stringbags. +AD4-And not just tanks, but anything different from what you'd normally +AD4-build. +AD4-Think I'm gonna build me a Patton before too long... +AD4-E. +AD4- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 00:17:22 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <199907090729.AAA18479@mail.rapidnet.net> Arrghhh Just had a noise behind me, followed by a loud crash. My 18" tall stuffed 'Marvin The Martian' gave my Smer Dr.I a push off the top of my bookcase and it took a 6' flight in the vertical plane. . .. . top wing, undercarriage and rudder are knocked off. Luckily only one wing tie is broken. To think Marvin has been standing there for five years just waiting for his moment to strike. Guess it could have been worse .. he could have gone after my Ilya or FE2b . . except they are in the display case .. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:11:28 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: N.17 and 28 wings Message-ID: <3785AEB0.A945E31D@mars.ark.com> The majority of Nieuport 28's were built by a subcontractor (Niepce et Fetterer iirc) and they thought they were smarter than the French Technical ministry so they decided to do things their own way, with disasterous results. The standard proceedure called for the fabric to run either fore-aft or l;aterally and be stitched and glued in place. They forsook some essential stitching and placed the fabric diagonally, compromising the strength along the warp/weft. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:14:43 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: N.17 and 28 wings Message-ID: <3785AF73.3C10C02@mars.ark.com> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > going purely from a foggy memory 'cause I'm too lazy to go look it up, I > seem to remember that it was just bad design- there was this big hairy seam > in the fabric placed precisely at the point of most stress. The seam was > moved a couple of inches (ok, well, really a several centimeters) and the > problem was solved but by then it was already getting to be an outdated > airplane so nobody cared. > Robert K. Actually the US had ordered 600 more, but they cancelled them when the war ended. Some of these made up the batch that went to the US, and others went to the Swiss AF, and they incorporated some improvements though I doubt that performance was affected much. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:55:18 EDT From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HiTech Breguet Message-ID: <64f448a7.24b712f6@aol.com> Yes. The Hi Tech interior gives a framework, Seats, throttle, control sticks and pedals in both cockpits and and an instrument panel. This is a good start as little is written bout the Breguet and there is only one extant example, an A2. Hopefully, Windsock will soon throw in a cockpit shot or two to help. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 05:04:06 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <19990709.051235.-84079.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:29:44 -0400 (EDT) bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) writes: > You actually -built- the Supermodel Cr.32? The only model I've ever > seen with locating -bumps- rather than locating holes for the > interplane > struts? Having tried this particular kit no less than three times > (and coming up empty each time!), I am amazed anyone has actually > built this kit - especially as a first biplane attempt. > > Had I started my biplane career on that particular kit, I'd be > building Emmy Won Oh Thingies today! > > I am truly in awe! Wow. Thanks. However, I did not build it. Just picked it up, then the next day picked up the Harleyford fighters book, and it still sits in the box. ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:10:36 -0400 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <199907091113.HAA05566@mail6.globalserve.net> Bob. Bob. Bob. How can you SAY this!? Please be more accurate! I'm sure what you meant to say is "I have spent 34 years without ever READING a Biggles book". You've SEEN nearly all of them. How quickly they forget! ;-) Brad BigglesRFC@globalserve.net ---------- > From: Bob Pearson > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? > Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 3:04 AM > > Shane writes. . > > > >> > << I put my interest down firmly to the influence of > >> W.E.Johns - Biggles, Algy, Ginger et al - >> > > > >> who? honestly I never saw any of these until after I got an > >> interest in ww1 > > > > I think I got a Biggles book (or more than one) every Christmas or birthday > > for about 5 years. It *astonished* me when former list member Tom Eisenhour > > told me he'd developed an interest in WW1 aviation without ever seeing one. > > I have spent 34 years without ever seeing a Biggles book. . I do have the > movie though. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:38:02 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <> For some reason, I keep thinking Lone Star Models did a multi media kit of the Lohner L a few years ago....... Am I correct or was that a fit of wishful thinking? Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:38:20 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off-Topic: French M/Gs Message-ID: In a message dated 7/8/99 6:23:39 PM EST, pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt writes: << David Vosburgh wrote: > Does anyone have any idea what kind of weapon would be mounted on the gun ring in the > observer's cockpit of the interwar Les Mureaux 117? >> Dave, I think the weapon used was a 7.5mm MAC, according to "Combat Aircraft of World War Two". The Darne was also used as a flexible weapon in French a/c, but I don't know if it was used in Mureaux types. HTH Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 06:39:19 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: N.17 and 28 wings Message-ID: <3785DF67.3176@bellsouth.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > I suspect the greater power and more aerodynamic shape of the > Nieu. 28 allowed it to obtain a greater speed in a dive than > the Nieu. 17. Greater speed equals more stress on the airframe > and the fabric and thus a greater likelihood of failure. Except that it wasn't a problem for the SPADS, which were revered for their ability to out dive anything else in the sky. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 06:42:18 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <3785E01A.9AF@bellsouth.net> roguerpj wrote: > > You forgot about all the wonderful practice at weathering technique. Mud, > rust, dents, rivets, scuff marks, oil stains etc...........:) Yes, I certainly did. Good catch. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 07:17:38 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <3785E862.5012@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/8/99 7:28:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > > << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > > If it's WW I, and it can be reproduced in > > minature, I want to see it! > > Want to se some miniature barbed wire? > E. >> > > What are you tryin' to say sailor? I was just axin if you wanted to hear about my technique for making miniature barbed wire. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:28:38 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: Ernest: Yes, I would be interested in this. Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Ernest Thomas wrote: > > I was just axin if you wanted to hear about my technique for making > miniature barbed wire. > E. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:49:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: help!!!!!!!!! (fwd) Message-ID: <199907091249.IAA20758@pease1.sr.unh.edu> List, from a fellow non-list modeler. Please add his address to any replies. Thanks, Allan Forwarded message: > From fajury@andinet.com Thu Jul 8 22:14:51 1999 > From: fajury@andinet.com > To: aew@unh.edu > Subject: help!!!!!!!!! > X-Mailer: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.1; Mac_68000) > Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:15:36 -0700 > Message-ID: <19990709041536.AAA101631@kepler.andinet.com@localhost> > > I am a scale modeller from Bogota, colombia, and I have a 1/6 model of the SE5a. It flies beautifully but it is not trully scale. I wonder if you know who i can get a set of plans for a 1/4 scale SE5a model, snce it has been impossible for me to get one here. > Thanks for your interest. > > Juan David Mejia > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Polly S Message-ID: <199907091305.JAA20886@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Does anybody have access to the old Polly S brand of paints? If so, > please LMK. There is a local store that has a large rack, including the WWI poly-scale paints. There are some missing, let me know what you need and I'll take a look. The store is about an hour away, but I could be convinced to make the pilgrimage....... :-) =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:07:33 -0700 From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: Marvin 1 - Smer tripe 0 Message-ID: <004801beca0c$0339f1e0$ce8c3ace@default> There must have been a shift in the earth's axis or something, at least in this hemisphere..... I came home yesterday to a pile of SSW D.III parts on the floor....A small shelf containing a Eduard Udet D.III in 1/48th (which BTW was the reason I renewed my interests in WWI modelling and Ernst Udet) and my 1/72 Toko kit of the same subject. Most of the damage seems to be at superglue joints. Wings off, lost a prop and a wheel popped.... Was thinking the Eduard kit needed a re-rigging using Dennis DURAS method anyway. Must be a sign.... How about some ideas of how everyone deals with these kind of emergencies/tragic events? Any good "repair" tips out there? Mike Dicianna "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > Arrghhh > > Just had a noise behind me, followed by a loud crash. My 18" tall stuffed > 'Marvin The Martian' gave my Smer Dr.I a push off the top of my bookcase and > it took a 6' flight in the vertical plane. . .. . top wing, undercarriage > and rudder are knocked off. Luckily only one wing tie is broken. > > To think Marvin has been standing there for five years just waiting for his > moment to strike. > > Guess it could have been worse .. he could have gone after my Ilya or FE2b .. > . except they are in the display case .. > > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 08:48:14 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI U-Boats (Was: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why?) Message-ID: <3785FD9E.618B@prodigy.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:41:50 -0400 (EDT) GRBroman@aol.com writes: > > > Can't count the number of WWI U-boats though. > > Isn't there a resin one? Ken? There is a Blue Water Navy resin 1/350 U-35. It's a nice casting: no bubbles, but a very slight twist to the hull. I don't think it's worth risking the warm water technique to try to fix it. The kit includes a P/E sheet with railings, planes, rudder, etc. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:08:46 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lohner L (Was: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why?) Message-ID: <3786026E.5982@prodigy.net> Scottfking@aol.com wrote: > For some reason, I keep thinking Lone Star Models did a multi media kit of > the Lohner L a few years ago....... Am I correct or was that a fit of > wishful thinking? Wings 72 had a vac 1/72 Lohner L. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:26:16 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: <4e6846e.24b76088@aol.com> In a message dated 7/8/99, 9:08:44 PM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: <<> Can't count the number of WWI U-boats though. Isn't there a resin one? Ken?>> Stoopid keys are too close together! Sorry, I meant WW II U-boats. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:38:52 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Lohner L ... was Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: >>> 07/09 6:38 AM >>> For some reason, I keep thinking Lone Star Models did a multi media kit of the Lohner L a few years ago....... Am I correct or was that a fit of wishful thinking? Skippy Lone Star has 1/48 multimedia kits for both the Lohner L and the Macchi M-5, along with a number of other flying boats and float planes, bless their hearts. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:43:02 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Unpopularity of WWI Subjects... Why? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/8/99, 10:22:32 PM, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << Being interested in models and miniatures in general, and WW I in particular, I would love to go to a show and see more WW I armor, ships, vehicles etc. I may never get around to building such things, but it would be great to see someone else's work. If it's WW I, and it can be reproduced in minature, I want to see it!>> We are kind of off the beaten path, but with guys like Matt, Bob Horton, Bob Sheldon,Greg VanWyngarden, Steve Hustad and a pretty substantial WW I building group here inthe upper midwest we probably have a higher than average WW I content at local shows. Even our local show had more WW I entries than the Regional. Now if we could only talk Matt into showing up! Wouldn't that be great, having to do splits in WWI aircraft. Glen ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1694 **********************