WWI Digest 1684 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Datafile 75 (AGO C.I) by Shane Weier 2) Fokker belt colors by Matthew E Bittner 3) More new images by Matthew E Bittner 4) Re: More new images by "Bob Pearson" 5) Re: Geoff Prentice by Pedro e Francisca Soares 6) Re: Before the Wrights...there were by Pedro e Francisca Soares 7) Re: Before the Wrights...there were by Pedro e Francisca Soares 8) Rigging and painting a salamander by Pedro e Francisca Soares 9) Major Catastrophe ? by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 10) RE: Workbench photo by "Alberto Rada" 11) Re: Rigging and painting a salamander by "Bob Pearson" 12) workbench site, was Re: Major Catastrophe ? by Ernest Thomas 13) Re: Before the Wrights...there were.... by "Bill Neill" 14) Re: Fokker belt colors by Mick Fauchon 15) Sopwith 1.B1 by mkendix 16) RE: Before the Wrights...there were.... by Shane Weier 17) Re: Major Catastrophe ? by Brent & Tina Theobald 18) Re: Another Camel Question by "cameron rile" 19) Re: Before the Wrights...Whitehead by REwing@aol.com 20) Old Sucscriber - Americal Decals by THENRYS@aol.com 21) Re: Sopwith 1.B1 by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 22) Re: DH2 (was Re: Signs of the times...) by Suvoroff@aol.com 23) Wave files (was Before the Wrights) by Suvoroff@aol.com 24) Re: Another Camel Question by "Bob Pearson" 25) Re: DFW CV by "David R.L. Laws" 26) Re: Old Sucscriber - Americal Decals by Bill Bacon 27) Re: Before the Wrights...there were by "roguerpj" 28) Re: Everybody is great! by "Len Smith" 29) RE: Albatros interior colors by "Diego Fernetti" 30) RE: Fokker belt colors by "Diego Fernetti" 31) Re: More new images by Matthew E Bittner 32) Re: Fokker belt colors by Matthew E Bittner 33) Re: Fokker belt colors by Matthew E Bittner 34) Matt's new images by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:27:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Datafile 75 (AGO C.I) Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD041182@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Bob, > Send Rimell a letter . . . > I intend to, but value the opinion of the list - figured to share the blame if I make a fool of myself ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:25:45 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Fokker belt colors Message-ID: <19990705.172933.-218325.0.mbittner@juno.com> Okily dokily. Anybody with an opinion (on this list? :-)) on what color the seat belts in Fokker D.VII's should be? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:51:45 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: More new images Message-ID: <19990705.175146.-90921.0.mbittner@juno.com> Just finished uploading the new digital images of Gabriel's Fokker D.VII. Go here: http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/ww1_ge.html Keep in mind that this model is the "start" of my "improvement" phaze. There are a lot of things wrong with it, but not as many as my earlier models. ;-) This model is about 7 years old. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:04:56 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More new images Message-ID: <199907052316.QAA18531@mail.rapidnet.net> > Keep in mind that this model is the "start" of my "improvement" phaze. > There are a lot of things wrong with it, but not as many as my earlier > models. ;-) This model is about 7 years old. Oh, the last one you finished is it? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:23:11 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Geoff Prentice Message-ID: <37813E5E.BBFAE7E5@mail.telepac.pt> Nigel L Davies wrote: > Can anybody give me the details of the SMI in which Geoff's last Icarus > column appeared? I used to buy SMI regularly but have lapsed, and I > would like to order a back issue of this one to read his column. > > Thanks > > Nigel > Maidstone, Kent Nigel, It was precisely one year ago and I too miss reading Icarus. At one time it was the only thing worth reading in SMI. Vol 29 N.347. June-July 98. I'm sure he's building a vac somewhere, maybe sharing it with Michel. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:23:34 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Before the Wrights...there were Message-ID: <37813E75.6912411C@mail.telepac.pt> infosilver@czechia.com wrote: > deep in throat, > of course :) > > Ivan Subrt (as a Slav no expert on Romanic languages) Ivan There was a film some years ago by that name.....but they didn't show it on TV!! Sorry (feeling naughty today ;-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:23:56 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Before the Wrights...there were Message-ID: <37813E8B.B755874B@mail.telepac.pt> cameron rile wrote: How do you pronounce Breguet? I have always said it breg + goo. > Judging by the need for an "a" sound to be in it, I have it wrong. > > cam ( with a flat, low, mumbly and fast Sydney/Blue Mountains accent ) > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com Gang, Wouldn't it help to have a page on Al's site with wav. files of all those strange names pronounced by native speakers. I remember once there was a message from our strongly missed Michel where he or Phillipe showed how to pronounce Breguet. Since there was never an important aicraft produced in Portugal (except under license) I won't volunteer for this but we have Germans, Brits, Italians, Czechs, French and I'm sure someone speaks russian, so this would be an easy task and would clarify some doubts we all have, I'm sure. How about it Al? Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:24:22 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: WW1 modeling list Subject: Rigging and painting a salamander Message-ID: <37813EA6.590277D1@mail.telepac.pt> Long post, many doubts: The flying wires (gee, the things I know nowadays... some time ago it was simply wires for them all, Thanks a lot Mr. Fletcher :-) on the inner pair of interplane struts of the Sopwith salamander, are they double at the front and single at the rear or are the rear ones double too? I can't find confirmation for this on the GA drawings published on last SMI and, furthermore, the painting on the TOKO box depicts not only double wires running from the top of the front inner strut to the base of the cowling but also single wires running from the inner struts to a position on the fuselage parallel to the struts. Can anyone confirm this? Now for the colours: The article on SMI reviews the kit and at some point the reviewer mentions that one of the schemes provided in the kit is for an experimental camouflage. So far no problem BUT, he then goes on to say that he got a copy of an article in Cross and Cockade Vol1, n.2. Quoting "It consists of four colours applied in three solid parts with variations of all the colours in irregular patterns". Well for me this is exactly the same scheme as proposed by Toko, the only difference being in the way the colours are applied, the article providing a 4 view drawing with the colour application pattern. (Once again it is quite similar to what TOKO proposes but there are some differences especially on the fuselage). I am tempted to go by the SMI drawing since I believe it was taken fron Cross and Cockade and knowing how Toko has goofed before.... Still the SMI scheme does not have a serial number and Toko proposes an E.5431 on the fuselage. Has anyone seen a photo of this. Sandy, Bob, you're the Sopwith resident Experts, Can you help me here? Thanks Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:02:01 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Major Catastrophe ? Message-ID: <378245bf.757210@legend.firstsaga.com> Alas, my poor Toko D.XII has been damaged (not beyond repair though). It seems while my son and some of his navy/marine buddies were passing through this weekend one had a little three year old who got up too early and decided to eat the D.XII. Managed to break-off the radiator and leave a dent in it, not to mention the teeth marks in one wing and the bits of lozenge missing. It wasn't finished yet. Still needed to add rib tapes and final assembly was fast approaching... It was a good thing they made tracks before I saw it... Len ps. I still have the workbench site and will be glad to add any pictures submitted. Matt sent one that I'll get posted in a day or so. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:09:34 -0400 From: "Alberto Rada" To: Subject: RE: Workbench photo Message-ID: Hi Matt Here it is Leonard Endy [lfendy@firstsaga.com] SALUDOS Alberto -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew E Bittner Sent: 05 July, 1999 4:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Workbench photo Okay, memory is once again failing. Who's the chap who has the site with the workbench photo's? I have one ready and waitin'... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 17:11:52 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rigging and painting a salamander Message-ID: <199907060023.RAA20685@mail.rapidnet.net> Pedro writes . . .. > The article on SMI reviews the kit and at some point the reviewer > mentions that one of the schemes provided in the kit is for an > experimental camouflage. So far no problem BUT, he then goes on to say > that he got a copy of an article in Cross and Cockade Vol1, n.2. > I am tempted to go by the SMI drawing since I believe it was taken fron > Cross and Cockade and knowing how Toko has goofed before.... Still the > SMI scheme does not have a serial number and Toko proposes an E.5431 on > the fuselage. Has anyone seen a photo of this. I have the C&C(GB) in question and can provide a scan of the page showing the pattern, additionally Rimell profiled it (both sides and top) in the Fabric Special 'WW1 British Aeroplane Colours and Markings'. As for the serial E.5431, there are photos of a camouflaged Salamader in the WW1 book, but the serial isn't carried. However E.5431 went to France for tests so it is possible that it was finished in the pattern shown. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:14:49 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: workbench site, was Re: Major Catastrophe ? Message-ID: <37814A79.1782@bellsouth.net> Leonard Endy wrote: > ps. I still have the workbench site and will be glad to add any > pictures submitted. Matt sent one that I'll get posted in a day or so. Mine will be on the way as soon as I finish the roll of film. Can I send you the hard copy for scanning? E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:15:31 -0700 From: "Bill Neill" To: Subject: Re: Before the Wrights...there were.... Message-ID: <007101bec746$ec7548a0$9a1dc0d8@bill> You are thinking of Yahoo Serious maybe :-) Bill Neill > Despite the fact that he was a farmer there is no truth to the rumour that > his first plane was constructed entirely from baler twine and number 8 wire. > He also used some beer crates and old oil cans. > > Aidrian > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:46:50 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Fokker belt colors Message-ID: Matt, > Okily dokily. Anybody with an opinion (on this list? :-)) on what color > the seat belts in Fokker D.VII's should be? I would hazard an informed guesstimate that they'd be the standard light-grey canvas, rangeing to a grubby medium-grey, depending on age; this seems to be the case in most German aircraft. Cheers, Mick. PS. The end of the world is indeed nigh.....but not until next week, by which time I should have finished my Nie 17 [!]. Pics when they're available. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Client Services,IESD, Auchmuty Library| Ph. (intl+61+49) 218622 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:31:49 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sopwith 1.B1 Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded about the Future spraying question. I'm building Flashback's Sopwith 1.B1 and it has 2 small rectuangular photetch parts for each side of the fuselage. They look like hatches or acces panels. Does anyone know what these are and what colour they should be? This is for the RFC version. Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:45:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Before the Wrights...there were.... Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD041185@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Bill, > You are thinking of Yahoo Serious maybe :-) > > Despite the fact that he was a farmer there is no truth to > > the rumour that his first plane was constructed entirely > > from baler twine and number 8 wire. > > He also used some beer crates and old oil cans. No, Aidrian was talking about a Kiwi, Yahoo Serious was/is a Tasmanian. Odd species both. It must be the weather. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:07:57 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Major Catastrophe ? Message-ID: <3781811A.AC15DD1C@airmail.net> Hey! > ps. I still have the workbench site and will be glad to add any > pictures submitted. Matt sent one that I'll get posted in a day or so. Is there an ot Russian Polikarpov R2 on that bench? Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:45:32 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another Camel Question Message-ID: <199907051947221@cameron.prontomail.com> >Unit marking of a white ring on the aft fuselage? Personal marking >of a white outlined blue band? D3417? Those are Collishaw's >markings while in command of 3N/203 Sqn. How dark is the blue band? There is a picture in the AWM collection of a Camel nosed over with similar markings. It has the white ring aft of a wide light band that forms a diamond shape on the top of the fuselage. I didnt save the caption but IIRC the caption didnt mention a serial and no serial is visible on the photograph itself. cam AFC page at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:50:54 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Before the Wrights...Whitehead Message-ID: << August 14 1901, allegedly. All of those he quoted as witnesses in the Bridgeport Herald story of the 'flight' later filed statements denying Whiteheads claims. Bill Neill >> I became very interested in this man about 30 years ago and my memory is not what it used to be (what is?). I read a few articles about Whitehead, and know that there were at least two books about him, though I never read them. Some R/C models of his aircraft have flown using his wing-warping configuration. I remember, briefly, that there was an interview with a "mechanic" that helped Whitehead. He offered considerable proof the stories were all real. I had never heard of the retractions by all the witnesses, and would really be interested in this. Connecticut has put up a memorial citing Gustave Whitehead's accomplishments to "Connecticut's Aviation History." -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:10:40 EDT From: THENRYS@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Old Sucscriber - Americal Decals Message-ID: <6d4a8c45.24b2cdb0@aol.com> Greetings list : I have been off list for ~ 1 year (If I can get a modem line installed at work, I'll be back), but I have a question that could best be answered by you folks. I have almost gotten my Sierra 1/72 Hansa Brandenburg W.18 ready for paint, and I read in CHandelle that Americal-Gryphon has released a decal sheet for A-H seaplanes, including the W.18 - sometimes being a slow worker has its advantages ! Does anyone have a phone # where I can reach Americal. I have the address and am wanting to order this sheet (SHeet number 146), and if I had a price, I would go ahead and send them the check. If anyone can help me, please respond via direct E-mail. Thanks in advance, and I hope to return soon. Todd Henry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:28:49 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith 1.B1 Message-ID: Michael asks: >I'm building Flashback's Sopwith 1.B1 and it has 2 small rectuangular >photetch parts for each side of the fuselage. They look like hatches or >acces panels. Does anyone know what these are and what colour they >should be? This is for the RFC version. Michael, The Profile booklet has a few photos that show this style of access panel. They appear to be bare metal. HTH, Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:05:50 EDT From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH2 (was Re: Signs of the times...) Message-ID: "Whoa, are you nuts?!?" Yes. "BTW, is it a wargame piece? Who is the manufacturer?" It started out that way, but is becoming more of a model; however, there have to be more sacrifices for strength than in 1/72nd model, both because it is going to be used for wargaming, and because of the limitations of 1/144th scale. The manufacturer is Skytrex. I scratchbuilt the Caudron; there is no 1/144th scale kit. Yours, James D. gray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:09:34 EDT From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Wave files (was Before the Wrights) Message-ID: A great idea! I like it. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:02:58 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another Camel Question Message-ID: <199907060514.WAA28312@mail.rapidnet.net> Cam writes. . . >>Unit marking of a white ring on the aft fuselage? Personal marking >>of a white outlined blue band? D3417? Those are Collishaw's >>markings while in command of 3N/203 Sqn. > > > How dark is the blue band? There is a picture in the AWM collection > of a Camel nosed over with similar markings. It has the white ring > aft of a wide light band that forms a diamond shape on the top of the > fuselage. I didnt save the caption but IIRC the caption didnt mention > a serial and no serial is visible on the photograph itself. Most likely roundel blue. It is possible this was Collishaw's aircraft as others in the squadron carried either roman numerals or letters in the band. Additionally the band *may* be red on some aircraft. I profiled many this way years ago, but I need to investigate this further before pubilishing it. One other marking on the Camels of B flight was an RNAS Eagle on the stbd fuselage and a blue cowl. These markings can be seen on the captured Camel that was flown in combat by Jasta 23b's Otto Kissenberth. Andy Kemp and myself have been trying to determine if Otto's Camel did in fact come from Naval Three, however our research so far has been inconclusive as so many aircraft were being transferred from unit to unit during the great retreat of early 1918. One thing we did determine however was that it was not the Camel previously attributed to Kissenberth. Sadly all of my email with Andy was lost in my recent email crashes, so I no longer have the exact details we settled on .... Andy? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 15:33:18 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DFW CV Message-ID: <378221BE.2B8F@webtime.com.au> Hi all PLEASE !!! does anyone have a shot of the cockpits of this machine I have the datafile but that only depicts what seems to be a modified installation of the front gun - substitution of lewis for spandau - also the fuselage panelling above the gun's reciever has been removed to expose the whole top of the lewis gun - from what I can gather from all other available references there is hump above the spadau's reciever which encloses the front m/g regards david ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:22:59 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Old Sucscriber - Americal Decals Message-ID: <378192B3.B8FD116D@Netjava.net> Todd, Address: Americal/Gryphon 4373 varsity Lane Houston, TX 77004-6617 Price Sheet #146 Not in my catalog but will guess 12.50 USD +1.75 p&h If in Texas 8.25 sales tax HTH Cheers, Bill B. THENRYS@aol.com wrote: > Greetings list : > > I have been off list for ~ 1 year (If I can get a modem line installed at > work, I'll be back), but I have a question that could best be answered by you > folks. I have almost gotten my Sierra 1/72 Hansa Brandenburg W.18 ready for > paint, and I read in CHandelle that Americal-Gryphon has released a decal > sheet for A-H seaplanes, including the W.18 - sometimes being a slow worker > has its advantages ! > > Does anyone have a phone # where I can reach Americal. I have the address > and am wanting to order this sheet (SHeet number 146), and if I had a price, > I would go ahead and send them the check. > If anyone can help me, please respond via direct E-mail. > > Thanks in advance, and I hope to return soon. > > Todd Henry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:49:46 -0500 From: "roguerpj" To: Subject: Re: Before the Wrights...there were Message-ID: <009b01bec773$5b2d1440$05f99ed0@robjohn.swdata.com> this is starting to feel like the thread on what color is ernest's +ACIAQAAhACEAJgAlACUAJAAkACEAIQAi- red rob johnson -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas +ADw-ethomas6+AEA-bellsouth.net+AD4- To: Multiple recipients of list +ADw-wwi+AEA-pease1.sr.unh.edu+AD4- Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Before the Wrights...there were +AD4-Albatrosdv+AEA-aol.com wrote: +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Breguet: pr - breh-zhay. +AD4- +AD4-I vote foe 'Breeje-wet'. But I'm a man who doesn't like 'ja-LOP-pin-ohs' +AD4-on my 'queezy-dill-ahs', washed down with a glass of 'Per-nod'. +AD4-E. +AD4-S-car-gots anyone? +AD4- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:55:18 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Everybody is great! Message-ID: <00c601bec77c$af74eba0$845b08c3@default> Dave Z wrote > > << Not only Americans,E. The two most over-used words in the English language > today are compensation and counselling! Maybe Nostradamus just got the > date wrong? > Len. :-((( >> > > Oh no! I am a rehab counsellor for the Worker's Compensation Board.... I am > in trouble with Len on both counts. One saving characteristic - my > interview room is a "no whine zone". > > Dave, did you not note that I refered to the English language? It is well known over here that Americans can/do not speak/understand/write English. Regards Len. :-))) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 06:58:12 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Albatros interior colors Message-ID: <003301bec6cc$e526b5e0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks, Shane! Gray they'll be. D. -----Mensaje original----- De: Shane Weier Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Lunes, 05 de Julio de 1999 06:36 p.m. Asunto: RE: Albatros interior colors >D > > >> I wonder if the cockpit items in the early Albatros fighters >> whose cowlings >> and struts were painted light gray were painted in the same >> color too. > >Fair bet IMHO > >Shane > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:11:07 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Fokker belt colors Message-ID: <005901bec6ce$b2f4c1a0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Grayish tan or light gray. Looks a light color in the B&W pictures and these colors matches the webbing material of the germans at that time. IMHO, of course. D. -----Mensaje original----- De: Matthew E Bittner Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Lunes, 05 de Julio de 1999 07:44 p.m. Asunto: Fokker belt colors >Okily dokily. Anybody with an opinion (on this list? :-)) on what color >the seat belts in Fokker D.VII's should be? > > >Matt Bittner >http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook >http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 04:49:43 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More new images Message-ID: <19990706.051535.-99157.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:05:36 -0400 (EDT) "Bob Pearson" writes: > Oh, the last one you finished is it? Huh? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 04:58:31 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker belt colors Message-ID: <19990706.051535.-99157.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Mick Fauchon writes: > I would hazard an informed guesstimate that they'd be the > standard > light-grey canvas, rangeing to a grubby medium-grey, depending on > age; this > seems to be the case in most German aircraft. Super! Thanks Mick! > PS. The end of the world is indeed nigh.....but not until > next week, > by which time I should have finished my Nie 17 [!]. Pics when > they're > available. A finished model from Mick? Can it be? Be still my heart. ;-) Next you'll know I'll be finishing up my Nie.16... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 05:20:16 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker belt colors Message-ID: <19990706.052016.-99157.7.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 06:11:09 -0400 (EDT) "Diego Fernetti" writes: > Grayish tan or light gray. Looks a light color in the B&W pictures > and these > colors matches the webbing material of the germans at that time. > IMHO, of > course. Thanks. Two with light gray, so light gray they shall be. ;-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:30:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Matt's new images Message-ID: <017801bec6d1$6a9b9c00$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey, Matt, Great work on the pictures and in the models. I liked them very much. D. -----Mensaje original----- De: Matthew E Bittner Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Martes, 06 de Julio de 1999 07:36 a.m. Asunto: Re: Fokker belt colors >On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 06:11:09 -0400 (EDT) "Diego Fernetti" > writes: > >> Grayish tan or light gray. Looks a light color in the B&W pictures >> and these >> colors matches the webbing material of the germans at that time. >> IMHO, of >> course. > >Thanks. Two with light gray, so light gray they shall be. ;-) > > >Matt Bittner >http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook >http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1684 **********************