WWI Digest 1671 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Thanks buddies WAS: a toast by "Diego Fernetti" 2) Re: Building to last by "Matt Bailey" 3) Re: Toko PFalz DXII by mkendix 4) Re: Toko PFalz DXII by David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca 5) Re: Another colour question. by "Lance Krieg" 6) A really bad idea by "Diego Fernetti" 7) SVA5 by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: Another colour question. by KarrArt@aol.com 9) Hansa Brandenburg W.29, W.33 and A.22 by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 10) Re: Dr.1 prop decals by "Tom Werner Hansen" 11) RE: SVA5 by "Alberto Rada" 12) Re: Thanks buddies WAS: a toast by "Bob Pearson" 13) Back by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 14) Re: A really bad idea by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Re: Building to last by "DAVID BURKE" 16) Re: Thanks buddies WAS: a toast by Albatrosdv@aol.com 17) Re: A really bad idea by Albatrosdv@aol.com 18) Spin Swap by infosilver@czechia.com 19) Jenny by BEN8800@aol.com 20) Re: Jenny by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 21) Re: Very bad news by vinar@atlas.cz 22) Re: Flashback/Eduard's Berg D.I by vinar@atlas.cz 23) Re: Some more good news: by vinar@atlas.cz 24) Re: A toast: too many kits, too little time by vinar@atlas.cz 25) Re: Spin Models by vinar@atlas.cz 26) Spin Swap #2 by infosilver@czechia.com 27) RE: A toast: too many kits, too little time by "Landon, James D" 28) Re: Jenny by Mike Fletcher 29) Re: Very bad news by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 30) RE: Dr.1 prop decals by Shane Weier 31) Re: A really bad idea by Brent & Tina Theobald 32) Re: Toko PFalz DXII by "Arron Monroe" 33) Jenny by BEN8800@aol.com 34) RE: Toko PFalz DXII by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 09:44:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Thanks buddies WAS: a toast Message-ID: <003601bec09a$be96c100$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi list, Although I mailed off list the answers for the greetings for my birthday, I may have missed someone. Then, for those and for all who took a drink for me I want to say thanks, you're a great assembly of fine guys (and gals). Gift report: 3 belts (mooning days are over), a suitcase (what's the use for that thing?), 3 books (none on topic), a pair of shoes, pants, etc. No kits, apart from the three that I bought myself. Gee, people are startintg to think of me as an adult ;-) Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:42:28 -0700 From: "Matt Bailey" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Building to last Message-ID: Thanks to all those who replied, and thanks for your humor, Dave! Matt Bailey --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:02:03 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko PFalz DXII Message-ID: On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Arron Monroe wrote: > This kit lists a yellow and Grey paint scheme for a plane flown by a Lt. > G.K. Summer. Would nay one have more info on this particular plane and > pilot? I am just wondering about the accuracy for this color combination. > Arron: I toowould like to know whether this yellow-grey sceme is legitimate, primarily because it does not require lozenge, which is good because the kit's lozenge decals are somewhat dubious to put it mildly. Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:39:39 -0400 From: David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko PFalz DXII Message-ID: <8525679E.00503182.00@Notes.Server5.wcb.on.ca> >> This kit lists a yellow and Grey paint scheme for a plane flown by a Lt. G.K. Summer. Would nay one have more info on this particular plane and pilot? I am just wondering about the accuracy for this color combination. >> < I toowould like to know whether this yellow-grey sceme is legitimate, primarily because it does not require lozenge, which is good because the kit's lozenge decals are somewhat dubious to put it mildly. > It might be worth chec king the archives, but I seem to recall that, when this model was first released, the yellow/grey was treated with great suspicion. I dont recall anybody being able to find direct evidence that that particular Jasta ever flew DXIIs painted that way. Sorry, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:49:27 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Another colour question. Message-ID: Adrian; As a figure painter, I usually lightened or faded the reds by adding yellow as a highlight color. As you note, white will turn the mixture pink. Have you tried a drop or two of yellow? Lance Krieg (515) 242-4525 ULK@Amerus.com >>> "Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton" 06/27 9:12 AM >>> I've tried warming white with a bit of orange, which gets close, but it changed the colour too much - it went a rather browner shade than I liked. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:46:47 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: A really bad idea Message-ID: <000101bec0b4$44563820$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi list, 85 years ago, Gavrilo Princip said: "I'm really tired of this fellow Franz Joseph and his ugly wife. I'm gonna give him the scare of his life. It'll be a good joke. He he he" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:48:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: SVA5 Message-ID: <000301bec0b4$910ac140$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Alberto, Beautiful work on your SVA! The wheels really look great! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:08:55 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another colour question. Message-ID: <4252d2c0.24a8f817@aol.com> In a message dated 6/27/99 9:22:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, roguerpj@black-hole.com writes: << The truth of the matter is you will get a variation of the colors that the manufacture used to make the colors you are mixing. >> I've had trouble with balanced reds for years- most modeling colors are either too cool ( a bit of blue is present) or too warm (a bit of yellow is lurking). One of the few reds I've found that will mix with blue to make purple or violet- not an odd brown- is the old Testor's little glass bottle labled"red". Mix it with yellow and you get a real orange- not muddy light hot olive. The old Polly S range had a color called "fire engine red" that performed almost the same- the only water base model product I've found that had predictable mixing. "Fire engine red" I think is long gone. I've been hoarding a couple of bottles for special projects. I do "scale coloring" by eye- I guess it's an outgrowth of my painting in two dimensions, and red is a difficult problem to deal with when it comes to scaling- just adding white and you get a dim pink. There is also the probelm of color shift with distance- colors tend to shift to their complimentary as the distance increases. Red starts shifting to green (one of the troubles with WW II US olive drabs- it's both red and green and yet neither). Theory would suggest you fake your distance with red by adding light green- but if you do this, it will look, to use the technical term...crappy. Unlesss....unlessss...you use a light, very yellowy green. First time you try it you'll screw up, but further messing around with proportions and you just might hit on a shade that pleases. Then again, you could just mist over the entire model with the finest spray possible using off-white. White over red gives a very different result than white MIXED with red. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:59:05 +0200 (CEST) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hansa Brandenburg W.29, W.33 and A.22 Message-ID: <199906281659.SAA12178@login-2.eunet.no> Hei, I will be a bit brief now, packing for five weeks in Angola starting tomorrow. Articles were printed in Scale Models February and April 1983. The April part has a couple of detail pictures of a Finish IVL A.22 Hansa which was developed from the Hansa Brandenburg W.33. There were no W.29s in Finnish military service as far as I know. Plenty of documentation available of the A.22s, but the text is in Finish... What is written about Finnish W.33s in the recent Air Entusiast article should not be trusted as it contain a number of errors. Broplan of Poland is working on a series of W.33 kits in 1/72, a Finnish version will be released very shortly, to be followed by German and Norwegian ones. It is based on Finnish and Norwegian W.33 drawings and Broplan vacs are in the same class as Sierra in my opinion. Instead of converting a W.29 to A.22 standard I would advise to wait a little. Possible that Internet Modeller will have a review as soon as it is released. Have scanned drawings of the Norwegian W.33s showing the forward fuselage, might send some of them to the WW1 homepage when the kits get released Eders Knut Erik >> Specifically, I'd like any and all information on the Hansa in Finnish >> service. > >I don't have any records of the W.29 in Finnish service but I do have a picture >of the W.33 I can try to scan for you. Off the top of my head I can't think of >the difference between W.29 and W.33. Maybe a longer fuse on the W.33. W.33 has a different engine, longer fuselage, larger wing, it has >It is nice to hear from another modeler interested in Finnish aviation. Do you >have any other early Finnish aircraft you are working on? I myself am getting >ready to start the Caudron G. III. That W.33 is a pretty plane. I intend on >building one myself someday. > >Brent > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:09:12 +0200 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: Re: Dr.1 prop decals Message-ID: <199906281726.TAA21444@golf.dax.net> Thanks everybody for your kind offers. Since I rebuilt the engine to look like a Clerget, I'll do without the prop logo. Problem solved. Model finished. Tom W ---------- > From: Matthew E Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Dr.1 prop decals > Date: 28. juni 1999 03:39 > > Since DML probably got this wrong anyway, keep in mind Jacobs flew with a > Clerget *and* a British prop. > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:26:03 -0400 From: "Alberto Rada" To: Subject: RE: SVA5 Message-ID: Thanks Diego I placed these photos as there has being some discussion on the List recently on Spin models, I will vouch for these kits 100/100 The only fault on this one is the instrument panel that I will agree With Ernest Thomas, the one with the kit seems to be more the One of the SVA 6 with the top machinegun. The spoke wheels are Tom's Modelworks and I could not resist Taking the liberty, as there are several photos of the SVA5 without The covers. SALUDOS Alberto -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti Sent: 28 June, 1999 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: SVA5 Hi Alberto, Beautiful work on your SVA! The wheels really look great! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:47:32 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thanks buddies WAS: a toast Message-ID: <199906281807.LAA30662@mail.rapidnet.net> Diego queries . . >Gee, people are starting to think of me as an adult ;-) at 30? Nah. . you still have a few more years before we take you seriously :-) Bob (one of your elders) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:06:56 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Back Message-ID: I returned from vacation today. I was able to get the Eduard Nieuport 17 (started since late last year) completed, except for the rigging. Of all the Eduard kits I have built, this one's wings and struts went together the best. Maybe the rigging will get done this weekend. Made a trip over to visit Hobby Haven in Des Moines last week. Although I did pick up the Eduard Hanriot floatplane at a good sale price, I was disappointed in their inventory (not just WW1, but all model kits). Phil's down in Dallas had a much better and bigger inventory. Guess I'll be sticking to mail order now for everything. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:23:22 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: A really bad idea Message-ID: <006401bec194$3ba767e0$46f210d1@dora9sprynet.com> Yeah, I hear that the Japanese played a similar prank on Dec. 7, 1941, and only too late that their planes weren't carrying party streamers and limburger cheese, but live munitions. People can be so forgetful sometimes! To get back to topic, the assassination of Ferdinand did come off as almost a comedy of errors, with assassins in failed suicide attempts, drivers taking wrong turns (what eventually did ol' Ferdie and his old lady in), and other neat stuff that made you wonder if this job was contracted to the gang that couldn't shoot straight! Shows that terrorists on the whole are generally stupid, and it takes the slightly advanced stupidity of government bodyguards to allow their plans to succeed! DB - Who was in the proximity of 3 terrorist bombings last year (1 -US and 2- Africa). -----Original Message----- From: Diego Fernetti To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:52 AM Subject: A really bad idea >Hi list, >85 years ago, Gavrilo Princip said: "I'm really tired of this fellow Franz >Joseph and his ugly wife. I'm gonna give him the scare of his life. It'll be >a good joke. He he he" > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:28:50 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Building to last Message-ID: <006501bec194$3c9a0540$46f210d1@dora9sprynet.com> >Thanks to all those who replied, and thanks for your humor, Dave! > > >Matt Bailey Hell Matt, If you can't laught about this stuff, you won't be able to handle it, and you'll end up being one of those guys who cry to contest judges and take all this stuff WAY too seriously. I'm working on a resin kit now and I didn't pin the wings. If, when I show up with it in Orlando, the wings have decided to seceed from their union with the fuselage, I shall just have to laugh, curse, and find the bar. DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:45:39 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thanks buddies WAS: a toast Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-28 13:59:40 EDT, you write: << Bob (one of your elders) >> But not by much. :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:48:13 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A really bad idea Message-ID: <41663bcb.24a91d6d@aol.com> In a message dated 99-06-28 14:35:27 EDT, you write: << To get back to topic, the assassination of Ferdinand did come off as almost a comedy of errors, with assassins in failed suicide attempts, drivers taking wrong turns (what eventually did ol' Ferdie and his old lady in), and other neat stuff that made you wonder if this job was contracted to the gang that couldn't shoot straight! Shows that terrorists on the whole are generally stupid, and it takes the slightly advanced stupidity of government bodyguards to allow their plans to succeed! >> Actually, Princip was where he was because he had previously failed, and was thinking of killing himself. And then, around the corner, comes Franz Ferdinand's car and *stops* ten feet away from him!!! You look at that, and a lot of other stuff from the summer of 1914, and you get the feeling too many people wanted the damn war. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 99 20:32:14 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Spin Swap Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Sandy Adam wrote: >>Cheers >>Ivan Subrt > > >Hi Ivan >I haven't heard from you for some time so I shall assume that our >kit/Profile swap must have fallen through. >If you do still want to do anything let me know but if I don't hear from you >by Friday, I'll buy a Spin Bristol locally. >Best regards >Sandy > > Sandy, I have the Bristol M.1C, Hanriot H.D.2 Floatplane, Berg D.I was not released yet here. I still need to know what you would like as the fourth kit. Assuming I have it I can send them to you and the Berg separately leter. Cheers! Ivan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:33:35 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Jenny Message-ID: <47c77d0c.24a9280f@aol.com> OK guys and gals. How come no one has called Model Expo to offer to build my Jenny model for box photos. Are you all stuck too much on plastics to accept the challenge of a real wood aircraft? Expo needs someone to build bothe the Nieuport 28 and Jenny, in a reasonable time. The Nieuport will be ready to start building in July. Jenny about next January, although some parts will be ready before that so the model could be started. If no one is interested, how about some help. There is a guy at Rineback that built a model of the Albatros for the museum. He has offered to do the Nieuport. What are his qualifications, and can he get it done fast? Knowing what you know about My Jenny, at 3/4" scale, all laser cut ribs, castings for the engine and other controls, and photoetched parts for the various clips on the fuselage and wing struts, how long should it take for a qualified model builder, working full time to build this model? Any help would be appreciated. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:06:01 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jenny Message-ID: >OK guys and gals. How come no one has called Model Expo to offer to build my >Jenny model for box photos. Are you all stuck too much on plastics to accept >the challenge of a real wood aircraft? Ben, I honestly thought long and hard about this one. I would really love the challenge of being the first to build it. Unfortunately, I am busy taking night classes for the next calendar year, and don't think I would be able to complete it quickly enough to make your deadline. I would think someone familiar with ship kits or woodworking should be able to complete the model in a couple of months working evenings and weekends (as long as he/she was single!). Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:58:43 +0200 From: vinar@atlas.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Very bad news Message-ID: <199906282005.QAA03618@pease1.sr.unh.edu> I'm very sorry to hear this sad news. Rest in Peace, Michel. Lubos > Dear WWI Members, > > I am deeply afflicted. My best friend Michel Lefort, one of our list > members, is dead this day. > He had a heart attack monday 7 June and falled in coma. > Please, remember him. > > TIA > > > -- > Philippe Spriesterbach > One of the (numerous) Mad Scratchbuilders > http://www.ping.be/phillipe_models/ > philippe.spriesterbach@ping.be > IPMS Belgium Member #F015 > IPMS Brussels Secretary Lubos Vinar vinar@atlas.cz http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:58:43 +0200 From: vinar@atlas.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Flashback/Eduard's Berg D.I Message-ID: <199906282005.QAA03621@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Berg is displayed (no-built-up) on Memorial Air Show in Roudnice nad Labem this weekend. Superb cast (Eduard LTM quality), very nice resin engine and beautiful lozenge decals. > Just thought you'd all like to know that the Berg will be on display as a > built-up at the Mauschwitz (Second-happiest place in the world after > Anaheim) National IPMS convention. It will be out in stores the first > week in August. > > Manly Scale, of course! > > Tom Cleaver Lubos Vinar vinar@atlas.cz http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:58:43 +0200 From: vinar@atlas.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some more good news: Message-ID: <199906282005.QAA03625@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Artur's Salmson, Alb. D.II (both in 1/48 scale) and Phonix D.I (1/72 scale) is available. > > Lubos' website address is http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp > > > ...and he has the box artwork for the new Eduard Camel, Bebe, Pfalz and > many more. Looks like they will really appear one day! Also announcements > on SPIN SPAD A2 and Artur Alb D.II, Salmson & Phonix D.I. (And some 1/72 > stuff probably.) Help, my shelves are groaning with unbuilt kits already! > Sandy > > Lubos Vinar vinar@atlas.cz http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:58:43 +0200 From: vinar@atlas.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A toast: too many kits, too little time Message-ID: <199906282005.QAA03620@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Happy birthday, Diego. > Hi list, > Today at 18:00 GMT it'll be 30 years since I landed in this valley of > tears. Now I'm realizing that I'm getting out of time to build the > impressive mountain of kits that I'm accumulating in my closets. But it's > a happy day for me. Go to the nearest bar and drink the strongest beverage > that they serve there. Make it double, better. The drinks go to my > account. D. > Lubos Vinar vinar@atlas.cz http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:58:43 +0200 From: vinar@atlas.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Spin Models Message-ID: <199906282005.QAA03636@pease1.sr.unh.edu> SPIN don't have website. See my website. http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp > I may have missed it but what is a good source for Spin Models? Anything > on the internet? > > Thanks in Advance, > > James Gibbons > Lubos Vinar vinar@atlas.cz http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp - VAMP - mail order service http://fly.to/vinar - Personal homepage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 99 20:48:06 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Spin Swap #2 Message-ID: Sorry to other listees for spending bandwidth, but I seem to miss many Sandy's emails directed to my address directly, not via the list. You may be interested that I am posting some Spin Bristol M.1c pictures to my site tonight: http://www.czechia.com/silverbird/wwi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:13:05 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: A toast: too many kits, too little time Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47030A2F6A@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> Tom: You once had 1400 unbuilt kits on hand?!?! That is almost completely beyond my comprehension. If you built one every month it would take you 117 years to build them all. Or if you built them at the rate I'm building my Tommy, they would last you 1400 years. Jim Landon, Staff Engineer, Lockheed Martin Astronautics Div. Launch Systems Dept., Electrical Systems Design Group Phone: (303) 971-1038, Fax: (303) 977-9738 or 977-8323 E-mail: James.D.Landon@lmco.com WWW: http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/landoni/index.html > ---------- > From: Tom Solinski > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 7:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: A toast: too many kits, too little time > > Diego > 30 was 1/3 of my humble life ago. The best is yet to come. NEVER too > many in the > closet. When the new and better ones come out the stock just gives you > something > to give the neighbor kids some thing to learn to model on.:-) > > I hit over 1400 kits at one time about 15 years ago, sold all of them > except the > aurora, Now I'm back to over 600. > > Happy birthday from the Heartland > > Tom Solinski > > P.S. is there anyone else that can't remember being 30 too? > > > . You > > aren't even half way to Geezer status. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bill B. > > > > Diego Fernetti wrote: > > > > > Hi list, > > > Today at 18:00 GMT it'll be 30 years since I landed in this valley of > tears. > > > Now I'm realizing that I'm getting out of time to build the impressive > > > mountain of kits that I'm accumulating in my closets. > > > But it's a happy day for me. Go to the nearest bar and drink the > strongest > > > beverage that they serve there. Make it double, better. The drinks go > to my > > > account. > > > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:18:57 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jenny Message-ID: <3777D8B1.C341ED83@mars.ark.com> I wouldn't mind building the Nieuport 28 but I am in the process of moving (latest arrival date should be Aug 1) -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:34:27 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Very bad news Message-ID: > I am deeply afflicted. My best friend Michel Lefort, one of our list > members, is dead this day. Having been unsubscribed while on vacation, I didn't get word of this until now. Michel had sent me information in the past, and we also had a few private e-mail conversations. My sincerest condolences. I will miss him too. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:15:57 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Dr.1 prop decals Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD041136@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Tom, > Thanks everybody for your kind offers. > Since I rebuilt the engine to look like a Clerget, I'll do > without the prop > logo. > Problem solved. Model finished. > Tom W Ohhhhh, NO it isn't. I don't see the picture on Alans page yet ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:50:05 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A really bad idea Message-ID: <3778183C.6255D187@airmail.net> This all makes me think of the (off-topic) Serbian Smart Bomb. Some dim bulb made a Molatov Cocktail using a shatterproof Coke bottle. Guess what... It bounced off the tank. Idiots! Brent > To get back to topic, the assassination of Ferdinand did come off as almost > a comedy of errors, with assassins in failed suicide attempts, drivers > taking wrong turns (what eventually did ol' Ferdie and his old lady in), and > other neat stuff that made you wonder if this job was contracted to the gang > that couldn't shoot straight! Shows that terrorists on the whole are > generally stupid, and it takes the slightly advanced stupidity of government > bodyguards to allow their plans to succeed! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:08:01 -0400 From: "Arron Monroe" To: Subject: Re: Toko PFalz DXII Message-ID: <006c01bec1bb$137f2f60$37b15f18@arron.twcny.rr.com> Any idea when the kit was released? I've been looking over the archive but it feels like finding that needle in the haystack. Thanks AM -----Original Message----- From: David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Toko PFalz DXII >>> This kit lists a yellow and Grey paint scheme for a plane flown by a Lt. > G.K. Summer. Would nay one have more info on this particular plane and > pilot? I am just wondering about the accuracy for this color combination. >>> >< I toowould like to know whether this yellow-grey sceme is legitimate, >primarily because it does not require lozenge, which is good because the >kit's lozenge decals are somewhat dubious to put it mildly. > > >It might be worth chec king the archives, but I seem to recall that, when >this model was first released, the yellow/grey was treated with great >suspicion. I dont recall anybody being able to find direct evidence >that that particular Jasta ever flew DXIIs painted that way. > >Sorry, > >Dave Z > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:26:26 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Jenny Message-ID: <3b5fedf6.24a95ea2@aol.com> Now here is a good question (of course, I think all questions are good). I am having a little trouble with the Jenny and the wing stagger. Nieto's plans are confusing because he shows details of Canucks, JN 4-Ds, and JN-4s all on one plan. One view does not agree with the other. The wing stagger for a JN-4D is 16" according to Nieto. However, his plans illustrate wing staggers from 12" up to 16". The center section of the upper wing has struts which are almost in line with angles side struts in the fuselage. OK. My question is, if the basic plan has a wing stagger of 12", and you move to a 16" stagger, would the upper wing move forward or the lower wing move aft. I assume the answer is the upper wing moves forward because the aft landing gear struts land on the fuselage strut. Assuming this is true, would the struts in the fuselage also change angle, sloping more forward along with the wing strut angles changes. Now ain't this a good question or not? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:18:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Toko PFalz DXII Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD041139@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Aaron, > Any idea when the kit was released? I've been looking over > the archive but > it feels like finding that needle in the haystack. Discussed at length in several threads in July 98, and again in November 98. Shane ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1671 **********************