WWI Digest 1623 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Camouflaged Seaplanes? by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: Pegasus Order by "David Vosburgh" 3) Re: Pegasus Order by John & Allison Cyganowski 4) Thanks for Ground Cover Info by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 5) Re: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero by "Robert M. Farrar" 6) Morane-Saulnier type L by "Arron Monroe" 7) Re: Thanks for Ground Cover Info by Ernest Thomas 8) Re: Pegasus Order by "David Vosburgh" 9) Free Paper Fokker Dr.I by Brent & Tina Theobald 10) Re: In Memorium by Eric Fisher 11) Eduard Photoetched kits by BEN8800@aol.com 12) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) Re: Free Paper Fokker Dr.I by REwing@aol.com 14) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by REwing@aol.com 15) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by "DAVID BURKE" 16) Re: In Memorium by "DAVID BURKE" 17) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: In Memorium by Ernest Thomas 20) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: In Memorium by "DAVID BURKE" 22) Re: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero by "DAVID BURKE" 23) Handicaps, was Re: Pegasus Order by Ernest Thomas 24) Re: In Memorium by "DAVID BURKE" 25) Re: In Memorium by Albatrosdv@aol.com 26) Re: Morane-Saulnier type L by Ernest Thomas 27) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by Ernest Thomas 28) Famous people who model, was Re: In Memorium by Ernest Thomas 29) Re: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero by Ernest Thomas 30) Re: In Memorium by Ernest Thomas 31) Re: In Memorium by Ernest Thomas 32) RE: Pegasus Order by Shane Weier 33) Re: Pegasus Order by "Robert M. Farrar" 34) Re: Eduard Photoetched kits by "David Vosburgh" 35) Re: In Memorium by Matthew E Bittner 36) Re: Morane-Saulnier type L by Matthew E Bittner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:45:06 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: Camouflaged Seaplanes? Message-ID: <3759C492.5400@bellsouth.net> Hi all, I picked up the Hanriot Floatplane today. Looks as good as the wheeled version except that it has floats. But it doesn't have that neat little Mini-plan that the other version has. What's rather odd is that it has markings and painting instructions for a 5 color cammo version. Can anyone think of a good reason to put 5 color cammo on a seaplane? The only thing the instrutions say is, "Of interest is the Airforce style camouflage, not common for naval aircraft". Anyone know anything about this, or can verify such a bird existed? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:56:57 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Order Message-ID: <001301beafb7$7ab04180$79d690d0@Pvosburg> Thanks, Cyg, maybe I'll give them a call. Speaking of quality & great service, what are the merry elves at Paaschendaele working on these days? Regards, DV -----Original Message----- From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Pegasus Order >David Vosburgh wrote: >> > >> >> Now... does anyone know of a source for the Blue Rider 'sworl' decals over here on the US >> side of the herring pond? I should've ordered them from Pegasus as well, but was initially >> planning on doing the red-tailed version on the back cover of the Squadron Signal book. I >> still might, but the psychedelic effect of the sworls kind of grows on you. >> >> Regards, >> >> DV > >Roll Models carries Blue Rider. www.rollmodels.com >Sopwith Hobbies may also have them. Email sopwithusa@aol.com >It would also be worth checking with Rosemont. > >However, you may find them in your own backyard at Precision Enterprises >Unlimited. These folks are in Springfield, VT (802) 885-3094 >I think I recall seeing a set of them in one of their decal books at a >show. > >Cyg. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:21:03 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pegasus Order Message-ID: <3759CCFF.721@worldnet.att.net> David Vosburgh wrote: > > Thanks, Cyg, maybe I'll give them a call. > > Speaking of quality & great service, what are the merry elves at Paaschendaele working on > these days? > > Regards, > > DV > This "elf" is nursing a broken right arm. Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:07:58 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thanks for Ground Cover Info Message-ID: To everyone who gave advise on the "ground cover for display base" question, many thanks. My first display base is now complete and looks very fancy. Method used: 1) Started with circular decoupage plaque. 2) Stained and sealed. 3) Used small dish to trace out "ground cover" circle on plaque. 4) "Painted" brown acrylic mixed with white glue in marked circle. 5) While wet, sprinkled on Woodland Scenics "soil" coloured turf. 6) Waited 10 minutes, then shook off excess. 7) Re-painted soil turf with brown/white glue mixture. 8) Re-sprinkled "burnt grass"-coloured Woodland Scenics product. 9) Waited and shook off the excess. 10) Impressed with result! Many thanks! Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:03:08 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero Message-ID: <003701beafc0$be2797c0$a23288cf@rmf> Tom and every one else, I must admit that I know the feeling. I met George Gay back in ' 80 or ' 81.... these veterans of ANY war are something to behold. We can and MUST thank them for our continued freedoms today! NO apologies for OT, just telling you folks that these men are truly one of a kind. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 6:08 PM Subject: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero >Just got back from spending the day out at Chino, listening to LCDR Richard >H. Best (Ret) talk about those five minutes over the Japanese fleet 57 years >ago yesterday that changed the world we all lived in afterwards. A very cool >guy - I only hope if I survive to 89 I am in half the condition he is. >Meeting people like him really is inspiring, and I am glad I am involved with >a group that keeps that kind of memory and knowledge alive. > >And I have just finished putting a coat of varnish over the lower right wing >of my Accurate Miniatures SBD-3 done as his "Baker-1," now that it has his >signature there. He said it was the most accurate rendition of his airplane >he's seen anyone do, which is a great compliment. > >Tom Cleaver > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:12:17 -0400 From: "Arron Monroe" To: "wwi" Subject: Morane-Saulnier type L Message-ID: <002d01beafc2$011ac380$37b15f18@arron.twcny.rr.com> Hi, I am trying to gather information (photos/drawings) on the Morane-Saulnier type L. I want to give the eduard kit a try but I don't have much background material on this plane. I sure would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for your help! Arron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:09:57 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thanks for Ground Cover Info Message-ID: <3759D875.1E43@bellsouth.net> Kevin & Kimberley wrote: > 10) Impressed with result! This is the important part. Conga-rats on your first scenic base. Nothing to it, huh? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:47:50 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Order Message-ID: <001201beafc7$0ad2ea60$81d690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: John & Allison Cyganowski Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Pegasus Order >This "elf" is nursing a broken right arm. > >Cyg. Ouch! Is it possible to model in a cast? Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any experiences of working while handicapped (temporarily or otherwise)? And no, BWI (Building While Intoxicated, a felony in most states) doesn't count... DV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:47:04 -0700 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Free Paper Fokker Dr.I Message-ID: <3759FD47.1BDD42F8@airmail.net> I know, I know, ya'll hate this paper modeling I keep pushing on you. Here's your chance to try it for free with an on topic aircraft. Go to this site: http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft.htm/fokdr-1/baumer/baumer.htm If you look around you will find he has created an entire flying circus. I noticed the link was a little buggy. When you click on the Free Bee link it will open the PDF file (you'll see a bunch of goofy text). When it opens up just save it to disc. Then open it later using Adobe Acrobat (free downloads available). It has an error which Adobe automatically fixes. Now print it out. Then you'll be ready to model. I think they are fun. It helps me stay on topic sometimes. Instead of starting yet another plastic kit, I start one of these. I think I have them completed in about two hours. Not a bad break. Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:24:38 -0800 From: Eric Fisher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: Mike, nice story on Mel Torme (maybe he was "the Velvet Frog") and the early days of Cross & Cockade (U.S.). Yes, it would seem we owe a debt of gratitude to Mel & others (including yourself: thanks for all that collating!) for the start of this great journal (now in it's 40th year as "Over the Front"). Possibly it was Mel's mega-hit "Chesnuts roasting on an open fire. . ." that allowed all this to happen. Anyway, may he rest in peace. You must have been at the home of George Cooke; and probably Hugh Wynne, Bill Puglisi and other illuminaries were there (they are listed as founders in the 1st issue of Cross & Cockade - "Spring 1960") >It was my good fortune to be a wee lad in Los Angeles during the formation of >the USA Cross and Cockade Society. I was able to pursuade my father to drive >my best friend and myself all the way down to Huntington Beach (an hour and >a half each way in those days), where the meetings were held in a Veterans of >Foreign Wars hall. It was a heady experience for a boy of 15 years. Mel >Torme was spoken of in reverent tones at these meetings, and the scuttlebutt >was that he had paid for out of pocket all the costs of the first couple of >years of the C&C Journal until the situation became self supporting. A year >later when I had gotten my drivers license, my buddy and myself would go to >Mr. Cooks (I believe I remember his name) house and spend entire days walking >around a couple of 4' x 8' sheets of plywood set on a Ping-Pong table, >picking up and collating the pages of the journal. This was all done by hand >then, no automatic collating copiers in the dark ages. These stacks of pages >would then be stapled by arm muscle power and put into mailing envelopes. >The older fellows who were there helping were a gold mine of stories and tall >tales. I had first heard of the C&C Society at the Reginald Denny Hobby Shop >in Hollywood, where I used to buy Aurora and Merit kits. This shop was a >mecca for WW-1 modelers in those days and had some of the most impressive, >very large, WW-1 models hanging from the ceiling. Pre Proctor but the same >level of detail that was to become available later. > >I have always held Mr. Torme dear in my prayers for his help in founding the >C&C Society. > >Mike Franklin >Bellingham, WA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:03:00 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <6ec82d3b.248b4cf4@aol.com> Have any of you built one of the Eduord 1/72 all photoetched brass structural model kits? I picked up the Camel from Model Expo. They also had the Fokker E.III. Any comments and suggestions building the thing. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:29:32 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-06 00:06:08 EDT, you write: << Have any of you built one of the Eduord 1/72 all photoetched brass structural model kits? I picked up the Camel from Model Expo. They also had the Fokker E.III. Any comments and suggestions building the thing. >> Run screaming from the room!!! Actually, the one I saw looked great, but the guy who did it said he felt he was ready for the old rubber room when he got it done. Loooooooooots of patience. And plenty of cayanoacrylate de-bonder to free your fingers. Unless you've made jewelry and know how to solder tiny joints. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:49:30 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Free Paper Fokker Dr.I Message-ID: <41194acf.248b57da@aol.com> << I know, I know, ya'll hate this paper modeling I keep pushing on you. Here's your chance to try it for free with an on topic aircraft. (snip) >> WRONG!!! I want to thank-you, Brent, for sharing this sight. I've had it bookmarked since you first wrote about it. I have a Camel and a DR.I in paper that I bought years ago. It is a nice diversion. I'm still looking at the Gotha. Maybe.... -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:02:06 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <88a73950.248b5ace@aol.com> << Have any of you built one of the Eduord 1/72 all photoetched brass structural model kits? I picked up the Camel from Model Expo. They also had the Fokker E.III. Any comments and suggestions building the thing. Ben >> There was a guy who came to our December contest with one built up. He put in all---yes, ALL---the wires with stretched sprue. He also did up the cockpit with a lot of extra goodies. Looked very nice. I have the E.III, but I think I might be too ham-fisted to fold those itty-bitty pieces. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:07:17 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <003d01beafda$f0a921e0$ca02c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Ask Ernie about them - he had a nice Eindecker in New Orleans... Dave -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits >In a message dated 99-06-06 00:06:08 EDT, you write: > ><< > Have any of you built one of the Eduord 1/72 all photoetched brass >structural > model kits? I picked up the Camel from Model Expo. They also had the Fokker > E.III. Any comments and suggestions building the thing. > >> >Run screaming from the room!!! > >Actually, the one I saw looked great, but the guy who did it said he felt he >was ready for the old rubber room when he got it done. Loooooooooots of >patience. And plenty of cayanoacrylate de-bonder to free your fingers. >Unless you've made jewelry and know how to solder tiny joints. > >Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:09:48 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <003e01beafda$f1f8d360$ca02c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> I did not know that about Mr. Torme. I will miss him because of his smooth voice which rivals Garrison Keillor's as the most soothing in existence. Dave B >Mel Torme (b.1925) one of the original, and likely best known, of the >founding members of Cross & Cockade U.S. passed away today. I understand >that he was an avid WW1 modeller at one time and I believe he hosted the >very first C&C meeting at his home back in the fifties. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:16:44 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <375A043C.6320@bellsouth.net> BEN8800, Yep, I built the E-III. It really isn't that bad. The hardest part was running the rudder and elevator cables through the fuselage after I put in all the x brace wires. The only advice I would offer aside from patience is to cut the fuselage apart along the perforations at the cockpit. Then work from the bottom section up, using the firewall and rear cockpit wall to keep it square. And run a nice bead of CA in the four corners from the sheet metal portion all the way to the rear. Not only will it add strength, but it will help give the illusion of tubes instead of 'L' chanels. As for the wings, paint em, twist the ribs into position, and put in Evergreen strip for the the spars,(don't bother with those brass spars) while they're still on the fret. After the spars are secured to the ribs cut the whole assembly from the fret and touch up as needed. I realize you're doing the Camel so things may be a little bit different. Ymmv, hth. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:26:33 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <375A0689.1D07@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > > Ask Ernie about them - he had a nice Eindecker in New Orleans... Thankuvermuch. Elvis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:29:32 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <375A073C.3B89@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > > I did not know that about Mr. Torme. I will miss him because of his smooth > voice which rivals Garrison Keillor's as the most soothing in existence. After Lauren Bacall and Jessica Rabbit. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:32:01 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <375A07D1.A50@bellsouth.net> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > Unless you've made jewelry and know how to solder tiny joints. I've made jewelry and that's a real bad idea. The brass is too fine. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:14:03 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <008101beafdd$daa17480$ca02c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Y'know, what with Mr. Torme's passing, I am reminded of a question that I asked some IPMS bigwigs in Columbus, a couple of years back: what other famous modelers are out there (aside from being famous just because of modeling)? Dave B. -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 3:43 PM Subject: Re: In Memorium >In a message dated 6/5/99 1:17:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mikedc@dnc.net >writes: > ><< > A moment of internet silence for the "golden frog". > > Mike Dicianna > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > >> > >Or possibly maybe Velvet Fog? Anyway, the Sunday Suppliment magazine from a >long defunct Los Angeles newspaper ran a piece about Torme and his WW I >modeling almost 30 years ago. It had a nice photo of Mel fondling his Aurora >DH-10, and other items. Being the packrat that I am, I still have the article! >Plus, he wrote a fine biography of Buddy Rich...dude could write. >Robert K.(back to the harness...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:31:37 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero Message-ID: <008301beafdd$dc5d7c60$ca02c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Hear Hear! And may I point out that this reverence for our veterans comes as most timely as this is the 55th anniversary of the landings in Normandy - the beginning of the last great offensive of the Second World War. I know that this is off-topic to a great degree, but we must hold all soldiers dear as they have made our world a safer place, and have helped to wipe the scourges of bitter destruction away and began the healing of wounds through the shedding of their blood. And we must keep them in mind always, and learn from their sometimes terrible lessons as we may avoid some of these situations in the future which may call young men and women to their deaths. As one of Jack Pershing's officers said "An ounce of sweat saves a gallon of blood". G.S. Patton. Dave B. >Tom and every one else, > I must admit that I know the feeling. >I met George Gay back in ' 80 or ' 81.... >these veterans of ANY war are something >to behold. We can and MUST thank them >for our continued freedoms today! >NO apologies for OT, just telling you folks >that these men are truly one of a kind. >Bob >-----Original Message----- >From: Albatrosdv@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 6:08 PM >Subject: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero > > >>Just got back from spending the day out at Chino, listening to LCDR >Richard >>H. Best (Ret) talk about those five minutes over the Japanese fleet 57 >years >>ago yesterday that changed the world we all lived in afterwards. A very >cool >>guy - I only hope if I survive to 89 I am in half the condition he is. >>Meeting people like him really is inspiring, and I am glad I am involved >with >>a group that keeps that kind of memory and knowledge alive. >> >>And I have just finished putting a coat of varnish over the lower right >wing >>of my Accurate Miniatures SBD-3 done as his "Baker-1," now that it has his >>signature there. He said it was the most accurate rendition of his >airplane >>he's seen anyone do, which is a great compliment. >> >>Tom Cleaver >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:38:36 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Handicaps, was Re: Pegasus Order Message-ID: <375A095C.3248@bellsouth.net> David Vosburgh wrote: > Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any experiences of working while handicapped > (temporarily or otherwise)? My handicap(criminally stupid) does play havoc with the models from time to time. I did try to work on a model once with a dislocated shoulder. I don't know if it was having my arm in a sling and strapped to my side that made it so hard or the codine induced stupor. But I gave up on the idea. I also had to go for two weeks without masturbating. :( E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:35:53 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <00a001beafde$734a4400$ca02c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Ahh, Ernie, It's good to be back - I missed your razor wit.... Dave >DAVID BURKE wrote: >> >> I did not know that about Mr. Torme. I will miss him because of his smooth >> voice which rivals Garrison Keillor's as the most soothing in existence. > >After Lauren Bacall and Jessica Rabbit. >E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:39:00 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-06 01:34:41 EDT, you write: << After Lauren Bacall and Jessica Rabbit. >> While I did feel like I had had honey dripped over me with their voices, soothing was not the emotion I was undergoing at the time. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:40:40 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane-Saulnier type L Message-ID: <375A09D8.3E4@bellsouth.net> Arron Monroe wrote: > > Hi, > > I am trying to gather information (photos/drawings) on the Morane-Saulnier > type L. (snip) I have the Datafile. Contact me off list and I'm sure I can help. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:42:14 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <375A0A36.5F36@bellsouth.net> And one more thing. After you've done all the finishing touches, don't drop it on a cement floor. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:46:06 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Famous people who model, was Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <375A0B1E.16BF@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > > Y'know, what with Mr. Torme's passing, I am reminded of a question that I > asked some IPMS bigwigs in Columbus, a couple of years back: what other > famous modelers are out there (aside from being famous just because of > modeling)? Gary Numan owns, or at least owned when I met him in '84, a P-51. It didn't come up in the conversation, but I'd bet he's built a few models in his time. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:48:10 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (OT) Meeting a Real Hero Message-ID: <375A0B9A.25D7@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: And we must keep them in mind always, and > learn from their sometimes terrible lessons as we may avoid some of these > situations in the future which may call young men and women to their deaths. Boy, are YOU an optimist! E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:57:02 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <375A0DAE.60E5@bellsouth.net> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > << After Lauren Bacall and Jessica Rabbit. >> > > While I did feel like I had had honey dripped over me with their voices, > soothing was not the emotion I was undergoing at the time. :-) An erection is NOT an emotion. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:04:55 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <375A0F87.1A6C@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > > Ahh, Ernie, It's good to be back - I missed your razor wit.... Stick around long enough and I'll cut you too. :) E. who just got finished watching 'Saving Matt Damon' in honor of June 6. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:28:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Pegasus Order Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD041051@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Dave > Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any experiences of > working while handicapped > (temporarily or otherwise)? And no, BWI (Building While > Intoxicated, a felony in most states) doesn't count... I have a very good friend and fellow club member who was diagnosed with a brain tumour (non-malignant!) in 1988 at age 20. Through the last 11 years, many operations, and the slow loss of eyesight (one eye completely, one about 50%), hearing, strength, and finally coordination and balance Steve continued to model, attend club meetings, assist in *running* the club and generally acted as if nothing would be allowed to stop him enjoying his hobby. Late last year his father - also a modeller - died suddenly, and Steve went downhill quickly. His collection (we ALL have a collection) is in the process of being auctioned off, and he lives in a hostel now entirely unable to model but..... I can assure you, that whatever the handicap, short perhaps of complete blindness, someone who really loves to model and has the guts will find a way. Not a war hero, but Steven J Symes has *my* vote as a man with great courage Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 03:06:13 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Order Message-ID: <008001beaff8$cac1c7c0$493d88cf@rmf> I personally am not handicapped but there is a local IPMS member who is an armor modeler; he has just one arm. Bob -----Original Message----- From: David Vosburgh To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Pegasus Order >-----Original Message----- >From: John & Allison Cyganowski >Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 9:23 PM >Subject: Re: Pegasus Order > > >>This "elf" is nursing a broken right arm. >> >>Cyg. > > >Ouch! Is it possible to model in a cast? > >Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any experiences of working while handicapped >(temporarily or otherwise)? And no, BWI (Building While Intoxicated, a felony in most >states) doesn't count... > >DV > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 09:12:01 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Message-ID: <001e01beb01e$2b52b2a0$68d690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 1:41 AM Subject: Re: Eduard Photoetched kits Ernest wrote: >I've made jewelry and that's a real bad idea. The brass is too fine. >E. You wouldn't know of any good mail-order jewelery supply houses, would you, E.? There's one which offers a catalog online, but it's about a 90-min. Acrobat download. Jewelers (and dentists) are the only ones who have a neater range of tools & gizmos than we do. DV ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 08:39:36 -0700 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In Memorium Message-ID: <19990606.085049.-15399.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:01:27 -0400 (EDT) "Brad Gossen" writes: > Mel Torme (b.1925) one of the original, and likely best known, of the > founding members of Cross & Cockade U.S. passed away today. I > understand > that he was an avid WW1 modeller at one time and I believe he hosted > the > very first C&C meeting at his home back in the fifties. A sad day indeed. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 08:46:14 -0700 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane-Saulnier type L Message-ID: <19990606.085049.-15399.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:09:44 -0400 (EDT) "Arron Monroe" writes: > I am trying to gather information (photos/drawings) on the > Morane-Saulnier > type L. I want to give the eduard kit a try but I don't have much > background > material on this plane. I sure would appreciate it if someone could > point me > in the right direction. The two best pieces of info for the MoS Type L is the Datafile and the FMP book. The Datafile is the one you should try to find, because it has a great photo of a stripped machine, the photo being taken on the port fuselage side. You can see everything! Most amazing. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1623 **********************